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ah ah ah hello in welcome to cross top where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle piece in ukraine. seems essentially impossible, and there's a reason for this. nato wants russia to be completely defeated. russia and turn demands new pan. european security structures, protecting its interest. as long as nato exists, there'll be no peace or security for anyone. i
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cross stuck in ukraine. i'm joined by my guess pet escobar in paris. he's an independent geopolitical analyst and author specializing in eurasia and brussels. we have lucrative a. he is an independent journalist, and in kingston we cross who journal 70. he is founder and director of trends research institute and publisher of the weekly trends journal magazine or a gentleman cross hoc rolls. in fact, that means you can jump in any time you want. and i always appreciate pepe. let me go to you 1st here. there's a huge a samantha asymmetrical process in play here. the europeans, the west collective wants to see russia completely defeated. russia want security guarantees, and i have a solution to it. and it's a simple one. why don't work towards peace, and that's something that the west will never do. pepe, of course not. and they keep saying that every day, via still defining stolt amberg, i american generals via antonia will terrace, the, sorry, portuguese i had of the you, when i read she in london every day, we have
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a call to our sound by from one of these, of course not to mention 828000 or 20000000 functionaries in brussels, saying exactly the same st. plan a continues on schedule plan a is forever war. land a is afghanistan on steroids, at least on, on a 20 years. there's no plan b. so far, russia, they can play it okay, which into and finish this thing in 20 minutes, which they can or okay. all right, let's skip going little by little inflicting a very refine the form of chinese torture on nato as a whole. and on the west leadership as well. and let's see, one day you're going to cry, uncle. well, i, i agree with the general they let me go to you and kingston here. this asymmetrical approach here because this explains how rushes preceded in ukraine because it wants
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security guarantees. it's not going to um, take land that it can't determine its destiny. ok. they're not going to go in in libra. she's not going to do this in 5 years. and another 10 years, this is why this is a defining event in this century. here, there has to be security guarantees for all are there will be security guarantees for none. go ahead. you know, this is the american way. as of that, they were saying once upon a time there was a president to united states by the name of dwight d eisenhower. 5 star general supreme commander, the allied forces, a to charm president is say, a well, a jess, january 17th, 1961. he was the american people that the military industrial complex is robbing the nation of the jesus sciences, the sway labors and the future, the children, and that sort of america's become,
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i just turned 76 years on world war 2 is in ancient history. look at all the was america's been since then. it like the korean. oh no. i like the vietnam war. a have out the 1st iraq when i like the 2nd iraq war, a lot better. you know, the afghan war was terrific. it only lasted 20 years. oh, what about what's going on in somalia? how about the nobel peace prize winner brock o'bonham? i want that guy gadhafi out of there. i want that guy assad added a libby in in syria, qaddafi and livia. the united states just passed a defense budget of $858000000000.00. so a $105000000000.00 of our money now is going to ukraine. 63 percent of americans living paycheck to paycheck. it's the american
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way and it's not stopping this is my magazine from spring 2014, that happy face on their washington is driving the world to fight the final war. world. gemini is not a right america has earned article written by dr. paul craig roberts, former assistant treasury secretary of the ronald reagan and he talks about russia, conclude wash included, that russia needed to be confronted with or distracted by problems that would leave the russian government less confident or able to counter washington's aggression elsewhere. ukraine presented to perfect opportunity for washington. okay, out general, if you're a child on that, on that note, i agree with you. okay, let me, let me go to look here. get everybody in the mix here. luke, i mean it, because the nato will not discuss russia. security guarantees is reason why we're
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in this mess in the 1st place. okay? and as long as they continue to do that, russia will do well, unilaterally make its own decisions. if it doesn't happen to interlocutor, then it will make its decisions on its own and what it will not care what the west says whatsoever. because the west really can't do anything about it. and that's what we've learned. luke and brussels go ahead. while the responsibility of nature is over, well, of course in the conflict since the one and done of course we follow america and should, you should dissociate from america on this america. it was for rush. we don't, we should. and the europeans also the victims of this country on. so we need to the final piece strategy. and we should look, for example, in turkey. we should look at hungary, countries, whether leaders are responsible. people say, yes, we must have something on the medical front on the social from dish, but not send arms and be part of that conflict with your salt and beg and mental,
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we should not do that. well, i, you mentioned a low octane thinker, salt and berg. let me go back to peppy here. well, that's exactly what he is. ok now, has had one journalist ever asked him a hard question. ever, never, it's never happened. okay. and that's, that's by design peppy notes. tell the bergs as a victory for russia. is it a feel for the west? yeah, yeah, that's what i think i agree with him on. okay. but of course, nato is not part of the conflict. okay. i mean, it's absurd. what this man says here, but i agree with him and i was actually, it will be the end of nato. the way that the, if they continue the down the path, they are pepe. go ahead. well, of course, with nobody knows what the general or the russian general staff, displaying mid term and long term nobody acquired from a putting part through share in may be just in more than showing did they have
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a menu which is so juicy in terms of inflicting geopolitical and g way, konami pain, different levels of the dial on europe and on the u. s. which is, you know, you have to laugh about it and the bill to dismantle. ah, they tried to win it, remember what they were try when year ago, diplomacy? you remember the visibility of security, right? those letters sent to the pentagon and to brussels. you all remember the non response response. you all remember what happened next, which was the preparation for a blitzkrieg against don boss. so we know everything that happened up to the beginning of the s m o. and we also know how russia is, has been to weaken the approach stores the s m o, which is now for all practical purposes, d, electrification campaign on top of dina's, if occasion and demilitarization it's working. and on top of it,
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they get absolute chaos and panic. all across the u. this is something that you see from outside the u. i just came back from brazil, which is in a very sorry state after the boss on our project. and even from brazil, looking at your bill says birds is not that bad. i'm happy you bring up a good point. if i go to gerald on this one here, i mean it again after 10 months of the same thing based continue to double down on it without any kind of what they claim that ukraine is winning, which is absurd. i mean, this propaganda in the west is absurd. it's ukraine is not winning. pepe is absolutely right. i would even posit that ukraine will turn into a failed state before there is a military decision on the battlefield. gerald, what are your thoughts on that? well, we said it from the beginning that that ukraine is not going to defeat russia. i have a famous chart of napoleon as march to moscow. ready in 1812 we are in leisure, holland with 420000 troops to attack moscow and comes back with 10000. and then
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it was a thing called a world war. 2 operation barbosa with a germans killed some 25000000 russians and who was the 1st to defeat the germans, the russians. and you mentioned about propaganda, and that's all it is. and that's all it ever ends. and all the media does is keep selling it. i just found this a couple of days ago. it's from 1960. this is the headline. soviet threatens rocket sat spy basins. so now we really hate those soviet right. you read the article member, this is may 10th 1960 premier. nikita khrushchev warned monday that soviet rockets was shoot down. eddie spy played the adventure. his soviet soil and his government will take appropriate measures. american plays were flying over soviet
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territory, and they put a headline in like this. so if soviet plays were flying over american territory, it would just be fine. everybody would love it. it's the warmness shane period. paragraphs. it's been going on and it's not only destroying the world destroy this country as well. and it is, can it's going on and i mean, i make and is non stop. i me get, look in here before we go to the breaking up. but, but look, what is the veneer of this propaganda rob program failing? i mean, now we have protests all through europe here. i mean, what in the world you're the european union is willing to die on the hill called ukraine. that's insane. 40 seconds before we go to the break. jake isn't saying i would agree with you when we say that you crime could become a faith state. it is a failed state. okay, so the map and show since the end of the you can call the chiera in some up and show the ukraine politics. so now we see zalinski was character since 2012 with
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properties in london with accounts in india can be and then m thinks that are obviously, you know what you see in all the places corruption ready while he had to be elected to fight. gotcha. so it is a real problem to see that the propaganda in the west is really solid for all the media that we have here in western europe. it is the voice of here. and that's why, and that's why, where pariahs, okay, but not as you know, rumble were on rambo, and a few other platform is we'll get our word out. the hell with you, to my opinion. i gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on ukraine. stay with our team. ah ah, in each of hunter,
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russian state. i never, i've, unfortunately, no sam steven with 50 battle defeated keys on any finals dealing with. we will fan in the european union. the kremlin, yup. machine restate on russia today, and split or t sputnik given our video agency, roughly all band on youtube and pinterest, and we put which indicative electricity ah, with a with
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welcome act across stock where all things are considered on peter about to remind you we're discussing ukraine with okay, go back to pepe in paris yet you are a prolific writer and i really appreciate it. my wife, i don't think i ever really miss a. com a couple days ago you wrote something very long article, very good. but this one sentence really stuck out to me. i'm gonna read it everybody here. a quick win for russia would be a loss because nato would still exist. no, russia has to pace this, so it sucks nato into the grinder, your spot on, right, peppy. why don't you explain what you mean there? ok with without using our collective crystal. busy balls, maybe this is to narrow number one the for the russian general staff because they
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see that seen only 10 months as being working miracles. so why not? 20232024. and now they have in direct confirmation from all sources that the us wants to prolong this thing, at least until 2025. don't forget death contract that raphael and fast with the american government to supply them with state of the art anti missile defense. and dest, when they're going to deliver, not november, 2025. so, without for sure, let me, i'd pepe. i mean, that big, that big 2 things. i mean, will ukraine still exist? that's up in the air? probably not, probably not, but i'm agreeing with you. and let me go to gerald because i think it's really important here because western media likes to frame this as a russia ukraine conflict. it's not that it's russia, it's
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a west the western world, nato world against russia, and the russians accepted the challenge. and what i think is, is, is in the cards right here. alright? they want to use ukraine is a cudgel against russia. well, russia will use ukraine to destroy nato, and i think that is in the cards. that's one of the reasons why the russians are taking their time to watch nato exhausted, so, and watched the european union humiliate itself into bankruptcy. go ahead, gerald. yes. in no, in the sense that america is going to keep the war going. a pet they mention raytheon, where you did, i mean, who is the defense contractor of the united states? i the excuse me, the defense secretary was young. what was his last job sitting on the board of directors, raytheon. so they're going to keep this war going as much as they can. again, it's the military industrial complex, and i want to make this 100 percent clear. america is at war with russia. yes. it's
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not a proxy war. and these are the words from lloyd austin, the defense secretary, who said he told nbc, report that the yeah, the reason for you as troops in ukraine was they need quote, experts in the country to help ukraine use critical weapons systems. so america is in ukraine, with u. s. troops showing them how to use critical weapons. they are using the critical weapons. if this is not stopped, world war 3 has already begun. and it's going to annihilate the world, a nuclear war. what people don't understand is that you have mentally ill
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people that are in control, that have a great soul of the demonic socratic spirit. because they, there is not one word you were talking about protests in europe. zip not and nothing in america. peace is not allowed to be spoken to her, and we just heard the national security advisor this jake sullivan said. there's no time right now to talk the piece. because because victory is not within their grasp, luke, just the opposite. a victory is staring them in the face. okay. and, and these missile systems, the patriots systems. you know, everybody, let's be honest, here the u. s. military has been fighting sheepherders around the world in this century. ok. it's never even even close come to appear power and this is exactly what we're seeing right now. we're seeing all these expensive weapons that go to
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work there. it's a complete griffith. ok, and look, i don't care how many american advisors go to ukraine. they should be a be aware because the russians have i in the skies. they can see exactly where they are. luc. well, as you say, end of the, the young week are all major. feel like all the europeans. well, really we don't have our mission to live, right? i mean, frost, the french are accomodation for over you, or if there were while. so how can we deliver this is a bit 80 counts to the ukranian army or a and logan list. i'm sorry, let's go from what i understand. at the beginning of the conflict, there were $200.00 german tanks and only 10 of them worked. yes, yes. fast to mrs. bonded line with some of the european commission, you know, she was minister of defense for 8 years and the buddhist fair, the german army is in texas because of her. so that's a good use of how you know,
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the germans speak about it. smile. so dad, i look, look, i, i can guarantee you, they spend more money at nato buffets than they do on german tax. ok. i can guarantee you that. ok, pepe, you know, the, the thing that what you and i have been thinking about a, actually in unison over the last few months. i mean, we're not having direct contact all the time. but we're very much moving in the same direction here. and, and, you know, it's very interesting, rushes is facing the entire onslaught of the west and the world is watching and the world is amazed that russia is taken on the collective west. and it's certainly not losing. i would even say it is winning. if you look at the it, what winning means on the long term thoughts? peppy? absolutely. 87808889 percent of the global south as a whole. and some factors in the global north as well. they have not condemned
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russia, they have not sanctioned russia. and most of them understand russia's motives and the best merits of course, goals to absolutely faultless russia. diplomacy, you know, run by essentially by love road, but all the deputy prime foreign ministers, absolutely brilliant as well. and of course, the higher nodes which bricks, which is going to be bricks plus shown guy corporation, organization. the strategic partnership between the rest and the chinese. and these think they're locking partnerships between russia, china, india, any run the what i termed a few weeks ago, the quad that really matters. these are the quad, or course, the reason that really matters. so in terms of soft power globally, russia has got it because they manage to explain their position. this a, the thing is they could, they can not, in fact, finish this war in 20 minutes, because this would be written mix of american shocking. all. yeah. and that's not
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what russia wants russia once the global sized, the global south on their side. so we have to be little by little, this form of chinese starch, torture, which is strategic ambiguity in the worst of the russian general staff. and the global south bought it, they are all bored because they understand that russia now is that the one word of this fight again? well, and if you are sure, and peppy and peppy, you know, the global south, they remember the european colonial experience that the russians weren't there, but the europeans were ok, gerald, this war is not going to end in diplomacy, not going to end the negotiations because from the russian perspective, there is no one to trust in the west angland miracles, admission recently, petro poto shan code, the former ukrainian president. they lied their liars. so there's going to be no to go shaded into this. it will be a unilaterally decided by russia because there's no one to trust in the west. geral
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. yes. so what you said about merkle and in for a shank of that, they admitted that the minsk agreement was a total fraud just to get ukraine built up stronger so they could fight against the russians. here i'm a trend forecaster, we have a system called global nomics. we're talking right now about, you know, war. so we look at many different fields and one of them, of course, is to look at is what's going on with a global economy. so of course, with the sanctions they put on russia, you know, of energy prices are going up. there's a lot of hardship in, in europe. that's why you see the demonstrations. one of my sayings is when all else fails, they take you to war. we are facing age geopolitical, socio economic crisis, the likes of which we've never seen before. that had been brought about by all the cheap buddy they pumped into the system. yet when they for the cove, it was. so let's go back to a thing called the great depression and what followed it were
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a war to what followed the dot com bust. oh, you mean the war on terror? went on telling what i'm saying is that when the economy crashes, they get the people's mind off it with war. and they had going to do the same thing . now, american people, when i was a kid, dad is hiding under a desk because the russians were going to drop an atom bomb. i remember doing the same thing. and i remember i remember. so what i'm saying is they're going a russian nestle just landed in poland and killed school. people. dont that are they all has to unite. how do you see how quick it happens? how they believe that of 2 people were killed. 377000 over there in yemen. now we don't care that yemen what. but anyway, what i'm saying, she every one is that when all else fails, they take you to war. the global economy is failing and they will get to people's
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minds often misery with war. okay, let me, we have one minute left. look in your crystal ball here. i won't hold it to you, but we're coming to the end of this year by the end of next year. how many governments do you think in the european union will fall? i won't hold her to it. batting possibly several of you fall in government. it's also a majority that would crumble and the opinions within the european union that would change at all. we have issues at the european parliament with corruption, bike todd and things. and we see that these people at the european parliament have great ideas about ethics and morality. they're all so it's gonna get worse and bureau and a few depression in future, certainly. but america is sitting, making
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a lot of money with the european stupidity, saving us energy, destroying the european economy, and making that the euro will never be a kind of you preserve any more. it all gets down to will end on this. it all gets down to being ideologically obsessed and greedy. okay. oh and then not, and hubert said absolutely taking no responsibility for their actions. that's where we end this year gentlemen as all the time. i want to thank my guests in paris, brussels and in kingston. and thanks to our viewers for watching us here are to see you next time. remember ah, ah, ah.
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in 1834 france invaded algeria, and straight away the french started inhabiting it to strengthen their position. the colonists, known as p a. no, ours took the best land from day one, the local population was put into an unequal position and was brutally exploited. this caused mass discontent. the people of algeria began their long term fight for independence. in 1954, the banner of freedom was raised by the national liberation front. a guerrilla war against the occupants broke out. the french tried to suppress to rebellion using cruel measures. old villages were wiped out acts of georgia and executions of civil people, including pregnant women, children and old people took place more than 2000000 people were put into
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concentration camps. however, these punitive measures didn't help the algerian patriots managed to induce france to start these negotiations. in 1962 evian records were signed, voting algeria on the past towards independence. but this was achieved at a colossal price. algeria by rights is considered to be a country of martyrs. according to the calculations of historians, the french colonists are responsible for the deaths of one and a half 1000000 algerians. ah 3, i'm afraid that the facilities will continue. jakes and then we may expect to the escalation, we get bill because i don't see any sincere demand for peace in your issue. i thought there is no peace with them, obviously, but there would be more sanctions introduce to aggravate situation. and i only see
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a desire to keep this war in the interests of usaa administration. ah ah, with a serbia builds up that one therapy builds up artillery and troops on its border with kosovo and puts his army on high alert in response to pristine as a legit attack on ethnically serv. areas with the white house pressure, twitter to suppress accurate information on cobra. 19 that didn't fit with the government guidance. according to the latest lead twitter revelations.

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