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radiates young showcase in to let them know that sounds good to the boys about your boy. ah, [000:00:00;00] with what am in my chair. it's laura doesn't want that much extra mom, but i know it's up under that. y'all is the aggression. today i'm authorizing the additional strong sanctions. today. russia is the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. and number those
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constantly growing. a feature of the problem was to course renewed as we speak on the new senior, mostly mine or sheila were banding all in ports of russian oil and gas in new jersey. i have been in another country with joe biden and imposing these sanctions on russia. has destroyed the american economy, so there is your boomerang self. ah hello and welcome to african. now, in this so we explore the brutal farm killings in south africa that often go unreported by the world's media. in the last 6 weeks,
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8 farmers have been murdered in the country, which means that each week, at least one farmer is been killed in south africa. but that's fantastic, only tells half the story for every farm the mooted. there of the 7 attacks, according to watch dogs in south africa, the survivors of those attacks are forced to spend the rest of the lives we living, the nightmare brutality and torture of they will deal. here are some of the stories i can, i'm from school off the dropping my daughter and i opened the guy i drove in a got up and does the guy to gain off the locking the guy with the bed. looking to jane, when i walked back to my bulky, the 2 suspects came running out of the milly's though about 10 meters away from me . but as soon as i saw them, they were ready on top of me. i started screaming, they had a kettle, prada, both of them grabbed me on my neck and they tried to choke me almost post up. and
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they said to me, if i keep quiet in the let me go, they won't strangle me any more. both of them grabbed me locked, i was sacked like this. i couldn't see everything. but both of them had their hands around my neck. and they drove me into the house. they told me to open with the keys. they forced me to open up for them. the main guy, the boss guy, he kept threatening that if i dont cooperate it is going to shoot me. this is the passage with him. i milan, dont i had to lie. yes. so that i couldn't see outside this one was my daughter's room. the one that is that staying with me, so ransacked everything as well. went through all the stuff, stole the little bit of money that she had saved. i spoke to a as well. this is a mind bedroom. all the furniture's articles are moved, but they stole the roof sheets off the lights,
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off the wires ripped up there. in fact, everything. when it started, i just thought to myself, to die. i'm losing my life when also them coming for me. it to the 1st to action was to die. i'm going to die off the wall because it took so long. i was worried about my daughter and what would happen to her. so something would happen to me. one sunday morning, as i turned around, looking in the kitchen, i saw them at the back door, pointing a gun at my husband's. he'd seen the guy with a gun to the store. he's shot at my husband and for some reason, my belief that was the law that prevented him that the bulletin striking because i went into the door right next to his face and he would, i was shooting from a very, very short distance about telford meter and to miss at that distance is quite incredible. even the police couldn't believe that for on the main came into the room with a bala crow of us and the gloves. they took everything we had. and they stuffed
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a dirty rag into pitiless mouth. as he was lying on the floor and he couldn't breathe because these nose was swollen by, they didn't because of the way they have seen on the shade. and i say to them, please check out the rig and let him sit against the bed. otherwise he will suffocate and then you will kill him. you don't want to kill him. it was 8 o'clock in the evening. we just finished having supper. and my son went out and asked him to go and close the garage. he went out and i heard a funny noise and at 1st i thought he was my son playing with a dog or something like that. but i was a little bit worried. it sounded a little bit odd. so as i got to the garage to the door to open it, it opened towards me and i faced a balaclava and, and a gun coming at me, which is terrifying and sigh retreated. i think most people instinctively
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will do. and it's luckily for us, the person didn't follow me. gave me a little bit of time to, to regroup. i retreated to the bedroom and i told my wife we will be probably we're armed intruders coming into the house. so i opened the safe and put out my firearm and she tried to get the radio going to that minutes. felt like a very, very long time. you know? because you can hear this banging away and you don't know if your children are okay . what's going on through this little curtain that i was peeping. i could see this door fling open and here came the 1st sug with my daughter for the firearm. if i'd been in the middle of that room with my firearm, he was just just moving me down. there's no way i would have been able to shoot him with with my daughter in his in his arm. and by some miracle, they didn't see me. so i saw i was in this tiny little corner with,
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with my firearm. and the 1st man with my daughter, with his arm around her neck and with a firearm. he will pass straight past me and like i say at arm's length. and then a 2nd man will post 3rd man, 2 of them were armed, 3rd, one walk past. 4th one stopped. i think the room was fully was there, and there was no space for them that made that made to my children and my wife lie down. while to explore this further, i'm joined by mattel collaborate, who is a senior analyst with the bureau for food and agricultural policy. thanks so much for joining us here on african. now we've just heard some horrific stories of people who narrowly escape being killed. of course, the statistics a fall mood as is on the increase, while the police and the south african government not able to get a hold on this. well, i think the, the police and government, as you mentioned in general, is that they are struggling pretty much like most arms of,
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of government. i mean, we have the issue of electricity supply, which is one thing that, you know, for, for, for more than 10 years are we knew this exist. so crime actually has been, are round and has been at the highest levels compared to other countries are for, for that love for more than not 30, as, as far as you know, the democracy goes. as a result, the farming community has appealed to the international community for help. and one of the 1st countries to respond, and in fact, one of the only countries to respond has been russia. in your opinion, why have western countries been so quiet? so, um, did the western countries in your career, we haven't had quite a lot from them in response to crime in particular, but specifically with regards to, to, to fun meadows and, and, and i can speculate are,
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but at one point i am aware that one of the organizations have made an appeal to, to the u. s. and the header are all true basically, to communicate this are this gauge of fun meters and overall the crime in south africa. um, but it hasn't been like a fiscal response or a diploma cheek. polio, to go, or any kind of support, but to be fair, i'm not so sure. is this south african government or the police in particular have requested help in that. so the west has not responded in any way or form as far as weigle. and yet, at the same time, we saw rush of responding to the point that we have up to 15000 south african farmers actually in russia who are busy farming there. in your opinion, why do you think russia came forward and offered help? i think um, one of the things that the, the south african farmers have been doing in, in the last 25 years or so is that they've been moving mainly across the continent
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r f. i mean, as far as in a west africa nigeria beneath. but majority in south africa, zambia and there are number of reasons one been that i think the south of them, farmers are still doomed to be, you know, some of the most experience, some of the most skilful on the continent aiming at you can judge by you know south of gas performance enough as fires for security is concerned, are competing nuts in global markets. and they are always keyed in or to explore other areas and other opportunities. and i think when russia came, he doesn't know putting to for others one to obviously go somewhere where they would in freeze the same kind of thread as we're talking about. but secondly, to, to apply their skills in a different environment. and therefore, as yes a response was just one of the ways in which it allowed people to make choices. but
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these are the kind of choices that they've been making in the past quarter century . as i mentioned, there are at the moment up to 15000 south african fir, at farmers in russia. what negative impact has that had on south africa? i don't think that much of a negative impact has happened or would be there in the sense that what we have observed over time, not only with, with the, the move to russia or other parts of the question. is that overtime, south african ah, i'll see, number of commercial farmers have come to less than 40038000. they are bought from nearly 60000. so we, we lost about one 3rd of the commercial farmers. but in exchange, what happened was that you see those that are behind, they tend to expand their operation. they have access to, to more land and their productivity levers have also increased in the us and d,
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case i saw that is a combination of factors. um, i think the other plan that we not talking about all you haven't mentioned that may be a contributing factor, is that the lens to form issues are still not fully resolved. and the discussions are on the lender form, makes some parts or some part of the community uncomfortable for our audiences. who don't understand, can you just give us a sense of what you mean when you say the land reform issues and where we stand with it? in south africa in brava? i would imagine the audience understand the political dynamics that 2 prisons of africa pre democracy, pre 1984. but in a nutshell, most of the agricultural land, the land that it is available and or suitable for fleming, is owned by white commercial farmers. so that is if a, on some issue is it a significant at most of the farmers are light?
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i think it is significant in the sense that it is not the result. so it creates an uncertainty. so when you are not sure what would have been the next life, yes or next to yes. and agriculture or activities in nature? ah, capital intensive, you put money on the ground. expect ingle 15 years lead. but if you don't know what will happen the next 2 years, you wouldn't put your money on, on agricultural activities, be planting trees, or putting fencing or any kind of capital. you'd rather go somewhere where there is that assurance that in the next 5 or 10 years, you will still be working on that. so the uncertainty that is created by this, ah luck of solution on the lender form. and if i may just mention a little bit, the arguments are still around in order to address the past injustices if you like, where the minority she, in the population or my daughter to of agricultural land. there are proposals that
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are populist in nature, that requires or that the notion is that the lend needs to be expropriate it taken away from those who own it now which majority are white for no composition at all? no, that would make any pos and uncomfortable if you have been fleming or you grew up your bond there. you've seen your parents and yourself put to money year after year on that land and wendy, some one sees this needs to happen. it will make any one uncomfortable, and he will take the next opportunity to carry, cover your losses or avoid them before they happen. and yet, at the same time, south africa remains the main food exporter in the sub saharan africa region. so the impact of these farmers leaving and the impact may be the summers choosing another profession. for example, a knock planting crops is felt beyond south africa's borders. that happens and not only even from the production point of view. but we also are losing that
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international competitiveness in some of those areas. because again, the other thing is that, you know, this kind of skills i'm talking about is, i'm not, can ask you, is that you, you know, you just transfer overnight over 2 years. but this is experiential learning from years and years. i mean, every time you lose, ah, as you said, 15000 somers, you know, gonna replace them with a 20000 skilled, capable experience. so there would be a transition that would be a tam leg, but we haven't gotten there yet. however, truly i've been frequently and even more numbers that can, you know, can start to be a reality. and we have seen it, you know, with our neighbors on the not, and border dodge, you know, in insecurity hunger, a corner, mig, to privation and lots and lots of socio economic under rest. started with the
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issue or the issues are on farming and agricultural policy being mishandled. in a nutshell, i know when you talk about countries on our borders, if you're talking about land. expropriation in zimbabwe for example, farms were taken away, but now they're actually given back because in that period that they were taken away from the white farmers, nothing happened to that land. so what is your response to something like that? madison was, goes back to what i said earlier, that yes, recently, some us are getting back to the lent, but the experience is not coming back in by what is still a foot deficit country in many ways, even though some are coming begin, sums gives accounting the given the government is injecting, it will take a lot more time to go back to those levels than indeed to destroy it. and, and then that's actually a silly us warning sign that your thing that this issues would send
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a message to any country that has a similar dynamic as we are on the me be a moralist. has a similar situation as we do. but they're probably handling it different, but you think that is kind of countries really would like to learn from the experience of what happened in zimbabwe done go through their own because in the human suffering as a result of that is, is beyond any imagination yet real some of that experience is when it comes to land expropriation that it's not just a simple solution of taking farms away. but, but let's leave that discussion for one moment. i saw reports that russia has gone from producing 102150 1000000 tons of grain this year. that in part is attributed to the south african farmers who are there. so that just talks to what we're, what we're discussing, the kind of contribution that they could make in south africa. my question is that if the farmers are not somehow dealt with, what is the long term impact on south africa?
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the crime in general is not address. this society would really go to a west state. i can see how west can it be or what formidable but sydney is not the kind that everyone would like to see the aspirations of nelson mandela and formerly does that for this country for is not going in that direction that they want it unfortunately. oh, what fun good is on the increase. one of the questions, of course, is why is the south african government and police not doing more to stem the tide? we post this question to people on both sides of the argument. we 1st have to understand what is the attitude from government. i mean, if the president of the republic of south africa goes to new york and says on bloomberg, that there are no such things as far murders and killings of farmers in south africa. it means that he's actually telling
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a lie to the world because he's own police department gifts, the statistics of how many farmers are murdered annually. and how many form occurs in south africa. we've had a couple of a little safety strategies been updated in the last 567 years from the police. but the action on the ground at the end of the day is not the basically due to resources. the one be concerned that we have is now the police budget has been cut by close to $2000000000.00 rent. the government came for what the police department came for with a national rural safety strategy. and they for launch that in 2019, which is a good and acceptable rural safety strategy. but it
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must be implemented. and that is where we have the problem. the resources from the police is not adequate, and it just stays as a document and say, this is what should be done. but the situation is of such nature that we call not only talk about what we should do, we must say, what are we doing? if you look at this, the sticks over the last 30 years that that g, l, u, s. kept, and these are verified form attacks and fall. notice we've had a 1811 white farmers and family members and visit this on farms being murdered against 280 black people. that begs the question to be answered where the interracially or not. and then the other concern is obviously
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they was instance instances of a former text we, they were actually racial accusations or traits made to the, to the, to the people, not on all of it, but they were some and the other concern is that you have people political people speaking from podiums, actually stirring up these racial tensions and saying we must attack these guys. we must murder these guys. so there's no definitive answer whether it's racial or not. but there is a big possibility. the impact of these farmers is, is felt far beyond south africa. as more forms of a caters in the landlines fellow. these in this produce to feed people, south africa is the main food exposure in the region. which means that this has
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a direct impact on food security in sub saharan africa. berlin chatam gay is as in bobby and pharma who says, and i quote her, if we kill the farming community, we kill mankind because people cannot live without food. i don't know who's going to be feeding everyone because i mean, if we kill the farming community, we've basically killed likelihood. we're still mankind because, you know, you can know, do without food, eat the basic human right food. this problem that i'm seeing in south africa is just not in isolation, is you can see what's happening in moves to be in d. c, the insurgencies. that is also very worrisome because people are constantly having to run for their lives because and i would you scale up in agriculture. if every time you need to now run for your life, we blast with everything. the human kept all the resources, the wonderful land, wonderful, where the wonderful everything. but with what is going on,
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we are not united our host, a lot of little kids that come over. we talk about different visions, vision 21st between to 63, and millennial goes 0 hunger by 2030. but i'll be going to arrive to that. if you're constantly having to made a person that is actually been to help you achieve that goal. this has to stop and the time for you to stop. now equally, we are talking about filings in the guns, but we silencing the guns. no, we not. it's almost as if we have a trigger. put your hands on the trigger. people be slaughtered into good masses and good, all sorts of things into social happening in the communities in that's really affecting foot security. so we're going to remain foot insecure for quite a long time. so we really have to like now go back to the drawing board in, see how we can actually try and come up together and do
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a proper strategic planning and see how we can protect that person called a f. and we have one common denominator. the stomach, in the stomach doesn't care about your political views. it doesn't care what color your it only case of a one thing in that one thing is the for, this is food. and if we don't support the big fun my, the commercial from a in, protects them, then we have a problem. because then we not going to be able to have enough food to feed the people. the big pharma, the commercial pharma can also be very helpful. and instrumental in helping this more de farmer in the ones that want to go into the agriculture sector to help them . but how do they help them? is they are skid and constantly having to run boat, their doors get this firearm get that. so every time when you driving around, what do you see? the 1st thing you see is a firearm. that person is carry. and that shows you that is a problem. because if there was no problem would not be giving firearms. i've got
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your point, we live to get a firearms myself. why are we carrying them? because of this problem, that is the. so i think it's fine that we actually ask again one more time to the government. all 55 countries to say this has to stop and it has to stop. now, food is very important. as far mood is increased and become more brutal, farmers and communities feel the need to take matters into their own hands. self defense and weapons training on the wise to the extent that it's now become common place for most people living in rural communities to carry a gun. archie was invited to observe one such training session. in that day, we will go into specific training with the former, the family, and the neighbors. and the 1st aspect of training will be how to use a fire on how to use it in and around the house. we also do specific training, according to south africa,
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legislation of how and when you can shoot when someone is attacking you or your family, or even your neighbor. a young boy, we didn't take it further and he's been training with regards to 1st a. if someone in your house he shot your neighbor short what to do to keep that personal life until the ambulance arrive. we then also issued him with a digital radio, but we cannot something issue the digital radio. and we, we actually give him training in how to exactly utilize this radio. in the end, we want all of this formats and their neighbors, to have an effect of communication network. and this network must be broadened as time goes by to keep control. but you need to speak to each other and to tell them each other when they're safe and windy or former store that noticing that day or their own own police are hoping to arrive in
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a few minutes off to you dispatch team to come and assist you with the police didn't even have vehicles available to do that. so the farmers and people in the cities and towns started organizing themselves into community safety structures. and we assist with that we have approximately on 1570 now on a national level. and we can further support the structures being legal advice, legal support, being an issue, logistical support, administrative support to help community safe court in south and to help communities on the rudo area with the forms or to site core selves as well as concern you. so if you're hungry, you will go to a form and take the food, maybe take money and go away. why stay in 20 percent of the mattress and tortured the people. dear, that the torture is coupled with icons. there's,
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ah her is your media a reflection of reality? in a world transformed what will make you feel safer? high selection for community. are you going the right way or are you being led to somewhere? which direction? what is true? walk this way. in the world corrupted, you need to descend a join us in the depths or remain in the shallows. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation,
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let it be an arms race is on offense. very dramatic development. only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successfully, very critical time. time to sit down and talk with those or is this out good. as the official say, the latency grayed out. so targets have killed one person wounded to others. we hear from a local woman who was lucky to survive. a current employee didn't get caught red handed to the fake news story. the person over the irish boy pay me, he's a child that similarly crane conflict. on the south africa experience is a record number of how to do this year with 200 days
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