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this is a look at what we're having in the moment. we'll continue into the next year, and then we'll continue to be this central transformation of the geopolitical scene. the western powers are decided that this is the way they want to go. they want to go on weakening, debilitating, and bleeding, russia drive. and that's, that's, that wasn't, i'm not going to stop from it. they don't care about what happens to the premiums, and they just want to continue down the spot. and why, and that, you know what is a successful? no, it's also a very dangerous because the risk. oh, this is what's, what's happening now in your grade, into becoming a full fledged, no shooting war between nature and russia is a really, is a real presence. i mean it's, it's not something we can just get around. and i think that's where we have to look
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through this 2023 that we could indeed get to that night, ma'am. moment they moment that we've been avoiding since the end of world war 2 and actual shooting war between nato and russia. i think that's a good summation you martin. another thing that i think we can expect in the new year is that with all the tumultuous changes that we saw in 2022, the world, the starting to get used to those changes. ok. russia is a sanction country. i don't think anyone in their right mind thing sanctions are going to end any time soon. and so what that does is it actually creates like opportunities. you know how, how to move forward. we know what you've left behind and what you can't return to. and i think that that's i look at that is kind of an opportunity. it's a challenge, but it's also an opportunity martin. you know, i think people run across the western world are going to use to the set up. but they're also getting quite despondent about the repetitive stories that keep coming in the press about massive scale corruption becoming quite despondent
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to what's going on around the world. and i wonder if that will change. i mean, looking at the globe, you know, it's very hard not to peer too cricket, cricket with a pin anyway. look, calamity. you're still coming from not only korean war coupled with a lot of global. so countries with climate prices change as well. you know, we've got got calamity all over the place and i wonder if that really can stay as you suggest, i think there might be a see change in media. i think that might be well as see change a cranking of awareness of how futile this war is and the awareness i think that will happen is that more people will begin to realize when they read newspapers or not, when they're educated or not, that the ukraine will really isn't much to do with ukraine, it's all, it's actually an international war between nature and russia and more increasingly
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so i would say more with just america. and russia is becoming less of a western when you look at the military spending a military aid which is declining quite rapidly. and in cash kit, you know, it seems to be america show from beginning to end. and so, you know, the spotlight really will be on biden, in 2023 to justify continuous, continuously standing, was just signed off. $40000000000.00 of aid, military age. those ministry at 20 minute, 20000000000. got past congress. i didn't think it would it, did. i wonder if 2023 will be a continuation of that when republicans take the the house? well unfortunately, martin, i don't put much stock in the end of the republican party in the united states, but you at a point, ok, there is still resistance or damage, you know, kind of a continuation of my question to martin. i mean, we have, we had all last year from march to the present, you know, sanctions and taking sanctions according to the west. but not that is not the case
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here. and one of the things i find interesting living here is how people of adapted and, and actually start, are looking forward and not looking to backward course travel is not as easy. it used to be apple pay, that will be a russian version of that will be introduced in the spring. but the rush is really quite good at adapting. but the news we get from europe is they're not so good at adapting dema. well indeed it was a, you know, many surprises, and i've called here, this is the russian, most of, and it's going to do in the recent interview. it's sad that when actually stop in february, me and my colleagues, we expect the army to do well. and we expected they call me to do much worse than they did. and in fact, the opposite of the patient had them. the war was no short of what's still going
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to win. the bob, certainly not in the way it was black. you know, the plan was just to use a small expeditionary and remove their gene quickly, you know, and explain to the as possible. that didn't happen. however, there was a pleasant surprise for after all the other side. the country crept up to be very easy. it was sanction, i mean you weren't even wall school, you live in russia. you see that these new year is not very different from the last year. the same restaurants are working, the same shops are open. people are still in the top is address on the account, probably even more money to spend now because they left europe more people travel internally. southern to russia became a connection. very, very pleasant, very interesting places to be. it's not just more from st. petersburg despite how
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it is out. i it is north focus is lots of nice places. so in fact, we want it wrong and we want it sad on one side and we'd love it. much better than expected. on the other side. yeah, that's to you know, church that mean to self sufficiency? i think that is the, the new calling card as we move forward for, for russia, and for all of the countries that are victims of western had gemini, you know, also georgia is what's really interesting kind of a continuation of what's been said here already. is that um, the ability to adapt. i mean, i think now when retrospect russia was fully prepared for years that this was going to happen is you and i have said so many times is that, that the russians will cave they'll, they'll be angry, but they'll, you know, they'll cave and, and nature will expand and in the west will get its way, but that's not the case anymore. we saw that in 2022. i think we to see that in 2023 and being able to adapt to adversity. well that the west is full of big words and so called values. but they're not very good at adapting george. no,
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they're not as good as adapting and really we look back in retrospect thing. what uh, where the g 7 and the e u in the united states thinking that's how we will impose the mother of all sanctions. and we will bring the russian economy to their knees. i mean, it's, you know, they actually saw them believing their own propaganda, which is very dangerous of russia is nothing more than a gas station with nuclear weapons. i mean, russian is the biggest energy, but you sort of world is the biggest grain producer in the world based fertilizer producer that, well, you know, precious metals producer in the world. i mean, you know, russia, it produces things that the one to buy that's very difficult to bring such an economy to his knees. and of course, they didn't bring reference to it's me any, it is indeed the europeans, not so much the mark of the european was suffering the consequences because the
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europeans consume energy and food and the rest. and they don't know what to do about it in the united states is happy to see europe in economies. collab demon is absolutely right. but the, the reversal of what we've been expecting, we've built that the russian military would achieve a quick victory. whereas the economy might be dodgy, you know, 11, the rainy weather shiffler war has continued. the 2014, the outcome would have been the opposite. rucker my van of achieve a quick military victory and knocked out the post regime and had achieved then the security and stability that they have. so even have the konami hardships that russia would have suffered then might well have been detrimental. we didn't, we don't know, but nonetheless, it's
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a serious issue that russia haven't been able to wrap this up militarily, as it could and should have done a year ago. and we're going to martin last 40 seconds before we go to the break. while european leads learn anything from 2020 to martin, it seems that they are learning anything at all. they're just digging nails in because they believed that there isn't a game. and they believe that this campaign that they have will, as i think george put it will, it will drain the russian military. but that's not happening. and, you know, the, you, itself is just slowly becoming much increasingly ineffective and relevant, irrelevant as days pass with corruption scandals. many, many countries now around the world. and i'm looking to russia, bridge partners is different geo political partners. so i think come, you know, where they lead some europe aunt learning a tool, but they will have to stop looking at the polaroid on the, on that thought. we're going to discuss that. when we come back from our break,
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gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on the year to come. 2023. ah ah ah ah, i look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people.
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welcome back. across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing the upcoming year 2023. i want to touch back with martin you, you said something at the very end before we went to the break that i'm fine. i find fascinating the europeans have in their mind, i suppose collectively and, and game. what do you mean by that? because their pre game, they screwed up pretty badly. i mean, is it going to be any different there and game. go ahead martin. sorry, go ahead. you know, they think the end game will finally be the who reaches out and says, look, let's talk, i want to stop this morning. what evidence? i know that's what they want, but what evidence is there that russia would even entertain that thought for a nano 2nd? i mean, you know, when you, when you have these kind of things, you need to have leverage. where's the leverage, keep going. route. there's no leverage, there's no evidence, it's just,
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it's just the echo chamber. you know, when you cut away all the news outlets that don't chime with your narrative. when you signed this journalist, when you actually just kept, keep on thing on the drum, i'm just listening to your own narrative and believing only in what comes from your own mouth, from your own political parties. that's the problem is, you know, there's nobody standing up and questioning any of this, but 2023 is going to be a deal breaker. that is the last year before europe, the u embraces. it's rally into the elections and the following year. and 2023 importantly has at least 17 countries in africa, which are going to be quite a bit of unrest writing. and everybody will looking tools to europe. and you just say, what's going on. all you guys really doing anything here. you know, you talk about your big plan, you're bold, you know, foreign policy and billions that your waste in brussels, but we don't see any action from you. a tool and
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a panic is going to start to stay in from a you leaders. so they're gonna, they're gonna lose to you because when the people go to the post funding the next year, the worry is low voter time. and that is going to start already in 2023. and i think in africa because i'm in africa. i think you're going to see more and more countries becoming known aligned. this is going to be, i want to have a little bit more about the global south person when you go to d ma here, d ma the, you know, as a russian citizen, you know, russia was very much demonized in 2022. and by a well oiled propaganda machine, no descent is allowed. if you disagree, then you're somebody's puppet. and you know, i mean, but the love affair that rushes had with, with the west, particularly europe for the last 300 years that come to an end. or is it just a pause? well, i would suggest to at least, you know,
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take some time and listen to that recent statement. wrong ration for me is to lower all from, from president putin world, basically said a few days ago that you know what, i'm not going to be duped again with a leadership that's now that, you know, with the leadership the united states. because right now, it's very difficult to do business. they don't observe that they don't observe. laws don't abide by the international law. they talk about the rules based on the rules, are the ones that buy them. they're not based on their, their lease. determine where washington determined by brussels. so russia has no illusions about the current leadership all the way. but i wouldn't say that the all along with europe can here for just 300. yes, russia, either you were you whether we wanted to know whether they will die to states, wanted to know whether that bureaucratic brussels want to rush at ease
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a european country with european culture and with european history. so i'm sure that these terrible ideology, which unfortunately called all the states and europe being union, when they say defeated and it will be defeated, it was, it is not $26.00, it is already losing the economically, it is military to get all the combined forces. so the last grain are unable to defeat russia and both sides are still using last soviet laid your boat. it turns out that the west is not on very well. so in the end, in the end, when this ideology is defeated by went to return to normal relations with the rest of europe and with the well ok, well written the ideology, neoliberalism, the varying to it's not going to end any time soon. it is going to create a global disaster before it leaves the scene. ok, let's georgia let's, let's talk
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a little bit about the global south or the global majority as i like to call it mean what we saw in 2022. and i think we're going to see in the new year is the, there are all, there are alternatives out there there. and the non western world, russia, china, iran, all with great civilizations, great cultures and traditions and all about. and that's what the west really hates . they really hate that there is an alternative out there. they talk the talk of diversity where they want no diversity whatsoever. you must go, you must abide by their ideology or you will be canceled as they're trying to cancel everything related to russia. george. yeah, there is in the now alternatives available bricks and then you more and more countries want to join the breaks the shanghai cooperation organization. there are new international institution, new alternatives to the i,
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m. f world bank and global order that was created in the aftermath of world war 2 and the chinese and are developing a kind of a world development bank gate alternative to the well that, you know, the global south is indeed looking a bomb. lee isn't saying, you know, we don't have to play the west game. we don't have to sit and listen to the lectures. so there is this economic go on over those of the old, tentative all the values, the values that the currently espoused by the united states in the west, you know, with hold on the world culture, the l g, b, t, q, i class culture, it's alien too. much of a well, i mean this isn't just simply, oh, well, you know, the, i thought was in iran, them there on them. we're, there is the rest of the world that just doesn't understand why the west is
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espousing notions of how human should live. that humans a level live by in millennium. and so even, you know, on the brushes embracing this is the kind of the leader a reaction against the will the western world culture just as a leader of reaction against neo liberal economic model. i'm a martin is joe biden, to have a celebrated a gathering of african leaders from what i understand there. there wasn't even a one to face to face one meeting with any of those leaders. i may be wrong, but what i understand here and the whole issue was ukraine in africa was like what the chinese were here. they're building bridges in roads, in schools and hospitals. ok. i mean, this is just arrogance that comes from the west to mean. it is, i've said many times is that know that the west is no longer feared. ok,
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we have the d dollarization going on trading and local currencies, different financial institutions as a whole literature i out there and called the world beyond the west. it's very, very real and it's taking on meaning and i think 2023 is this good. it would celebrate that martin of africa lose, you know, they watched the biden stunt not going to start with the, with the jewels wide open. you know, absolutely incredible. and look, look at us going to start now looking at 2023 will break records in afghanistan, it will make us remember the t v footage from cnn in 1980, as of how the chemistry to women of the cassette player, the streams of cassette tape being, being strewn across the street from the central couple, you know, kinda sounds going, but the middle ages, because of us foreign policy just failing completely on a whole so level and those african leaders you talked about. they watched that they witnessed that. they said, where do we fit tricia and all this is this what happens to us when we don't tag along with us a gemini, you know, and, you know,
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i mentioned 17 election to know what very carefully because of us are in africa in the next couple of months because fast food is wobbling and it looks like it's going to fool and no longer become a french satellite state anymore, just as money did a couple of months ago. if pikeno 1st fools, that will be a precedent that will be france losing all of its influence in africa, which means losing all of its edge. there will be no more western story or crime speaking africa and countries like morocco, lamb for example, will play more of a role of being a big brother and creating a structure and thanking on the services and things like that. so this is what will we have to look forward to? is it i think my money is on the tipping point, being in africa, it'll start in africa in 2023 and other countries around the world. watch that and say, well, if africa can do that, if ever concern to china for investment,
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the business perhaps turned to russia for security and to countries like morocco or turkey for other things. you know, then, what can we, you know, dmitri last year, joseph burrell talked about europe is being the garden and the rest of the world, being the jungle, i think in 2023. the world is going to see that they, there are many gardens out there, and it's not in europe de mer. you are good. it is now. oh yes. there will be no single globalization as a lot of people expect that in the 9 gives women that are going to be at least 3 globalization there is going to be in bond globalization around the united states and european union and some of their allies in america. in africa was in kind of go straight. there will be another global is the around russia, china, with many countries from africa joined with many companies from wedge in american,
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georgia. and there will be a 3rd, a 3rd group. i think it will be somewhat jittery about being too reliant on china, so they will have globalization also the role that reminds me a little the cold war times when there was the west, the story of more and the normal line. and the experience shows that this is not a bad action is when you have one single system in the world, when you have the government, when, how want price to be come? the government, usually these people suddenly become extremely stupid and the racial web portal where he is pension and book a g minds, no russian sanctions. now, like hitler wanted to build huge german, and by around the world, we're going to compete in globalization. and what's going on in your brain?
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i think it's not between russia and the state. and of course, it's not between russia and it's between forces all the west steel prior to to maintain they are he gemini and then you are forces which are not support in russia. there are many countries, in fact we support probably not have time, but i can think of a better way to end this program. thank you very much. i want to thank my guess in budapest, marrakech, and in my scout. and i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are to see you next time. remember crossed up ah ah oh, ah me. ah, ah,
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