been filmed on camera at the scene, we were told the explosion could be heard up to 15 kilometers away. on official sauces suggest that the number of casualties is higher than that officially stated on people in cobble are shocked that this explosion could take place on the 1st day of the new year, but will been more heated r t t. v. i run, cobbled that, me ha, it started with the pandemic, and here in russia continued this year because of the conflict and sanctions that is exploring your own country instead of traveling overseas. next steps as fit started with a popular travel blogger to discuss, finding treasures closer to hope. it's right ahead. ah with . mm

hm. welcome to was a part of the heroes journey. one of the most recurrent mythological phoenix in human history invariably brings the protagonist back to where the old began cooling time and time again that what had been searched for was already inside. this archetype of pattern now manifests itself in the steep rise in russia's domestic travel, as russians faced with visit restrictions in the west, left to explore the reaches of their own country. thus, every journey indeed, leave home. well, to discuss that, i am now joined by bugs on bullets, a popular trouble blogger and russia, self appointed ambassador for the arctic and the forest. but are the study done? it's great to have you with us today. yeah, i'm glad we did. our paul's cross, the eastern economic forum appears in previous years. all green before was attended, been man international. guess it is up a mix. francine, subordinates, yeah,

not so many man. it was can the number of russians in law traveling abroad is also gwen lang. the other hand, domestic travel seems to be in the rise. now, in russia, i'm washing, put in many a touring the country even though can you think good because they have no choice, or is there really a lot of interesting things to see in russia in chester numbers principal simple, michael bruce thought, i believe it's what they call the silver lining. we'll cross to solomon, but i think it was difficult for people to view russia that as a place to explore syria, mainly because international destinations clearly had services are much better quality to offer but east. and they were easier to get to us was just bay and you're all set below the chair. russia was really behind line in terms of tourist infrastructure and quality of service applicants. now that people have started traveling around russia or so i'm really happy to see that for many and now discovering that there's so much more to it than they thought about it later by

carl girl is not the only destination here or in the east lot better but this for you so much more beyond that, watson, that in fact crossly, our stress, which is located near by carl, is right in the middle of russia halfway between its western, most when you mind eastern most point source, cham so i feel great a, see my subscribers exploring the article go and the russian far east with their unique echo systems. and there's a lot to see there to me and what's important, just gimme, it's also a lot cheaper to visit on compared to well established tourist destinations. surely what i'll see also we're developing transportation networks here. so some like a leading russian air carrier runs regular flights from moscow to most destinations . so the russian far east will cause to the airfare to day squaw compared to say 5 or 10 years ago. we so much more affordable years to somebody in to the us national sale. my such us a you certainly got little bullet on bed,

nestle of nas others near bohemia, not what the weight deal. you're saying? it's about comfort, come for sanity of service and, and affordability. is there anything else, or is this the recipe for a good trip? i was then to if the bulk generally well this is the recipe and yes, we're going to go now we're talking about tourism. so what it actually tourism? mincing, travel, 1st and foremost. so these let us asportation is certainly important, but not what comfort also matters flooring their tie, whichever exotic destination you may choose to explore or you, whether it's skate dazzling of her with a view of alaska. we're just only 4 kilometers, separate russia from america, scope or c k, shallow skin with a polar bears the wall wrangle islands will skin us. you always want to return to safety and comfort law after experiencing extreme conditions for parents than you wanted right there. and then so let me give you an example. here we were shooting a documentary recently in chicago camp. i live and i was directing it or we spent

a month there in total, mitchell and in that climate tickets we were both cold and went all the time. every day. i have no idea how or equipment kept working. it seems like a miracle to me. shares and coming back to dry, warm place sir, after a day's work was fantastic and well, you could take off your wet clothes and take a hot shower. change into something dry and be ready to go out again. you bet you are a professional traveller. we need as much as you enjoy it. it's also what you do for a living la bushes, and i sure do we is that if i understand it correctly, you're trying to visit some of the less popular locations she in her metro eltic. that's right. or we try to direct our travelers to new destination. so i'm wondering, i can give you a great example of this year. we reached the northernmost pointer on the continent in the russian far easily port is called come with ox, the keep it in your katya when we saw the place is incredibly beautiful, like a huge rock on the credit accounts into the arctic ocean. almost like an ice

breaker at the sand is the northernmost point in the russian. far east of miss steely, we published our reports on both the russian and chinese social media. mix it and got millions of views, 1000000 plus our sunshine. these 2 agencies approached us keep asking to organize a trip for them, so they could seize and sassy her as a potential destination for chinese tourists is what i'm gonna do. so this year we're going there with 7 agency delegation from china. we as well as a t v crew representing china's top tv channel to film it for you, or we have a tour planned out for them. most of us are that will include the box, the keep her name as well as the timer peninsula, to showcase everything including siberia in russian far east and the arctic heels of. so this way we are creating a product both for russian and national tourists. lloyd lane could use that, or do they seem like i said, i thought share that as a popular belief impeach in russia, especially as young as that don't get to ring,

say milan, 90 milan boys a lot cooler and more comfortable, accountable, or more accessible out once and then to in moments clear to the point that many rational travellers was the means should have travel the world yet little while their own country remains an uncharted territory for them. well, with you just mentioned the trash already has. places that can offer supposed quality experiences. i however, i wonder if russia has something, no other place has what she am, i now would maroni tougher nor usually go into a 12 shift so on. well, you know, i say the most unforgettable experience is in meeting people to play. you can find good and bad people everywhere last year. but in the north or in the arctic, they are as authentic as it gets. here we were making a film about an old whale hunter whose ancestors are hunted whales for 7 or 8 generations on tom was. we were following him everywhere might day and day out. and one day when we came to his home of his grandson of around 20 years,

opened the door. we said do we came to film his grandfather to which he replied that his grandfather was having a meal with the goddess hunger rate was sad. when can we start margaret as soon as he has done so i cannot. he said to us down and shut the door. i don't get it knocked for cuz she wasn't trying to offend us. it was just it simple for him. master could once his grandma was finished from us, we could not do our thing, then he would have char, that's how they go about everything in life. of simple and sincere, regarded, let's have very rare qualitative find issued from one was to lunch. when it comes to natural attractions, we have everything we could wish war is like one great place or recommend to every one these days. and i believe it's going to be super popular soon, or they are both was domestic and international tourists. again, he wants to live border restrictions are lifted over, is the southern and northern curial islands receivable, equity with this place is mind bending while dash is like quote the finding yourself on the saddle of a jurassic park movie or something like that. you will cross the trills almost like

iceland or you low foot in norway or store or some other places, and you realize you can get it all these unique experiences, cross the quote all at once. and in one place, sagal here in russia, 2 or last material, i believe i'm not mistaken. it was dusty yankee who said that russia includes everything and the entire absolutely, it does. and the chair that i see is parts of russia the far east and the arctic mazama explored by traveling enthusiasts and estate didn't contribute much to that quest valard. it was mostly private initiatives that have always admired how deeply these people cared for the wild life in those parts misuse for the local population, correct me if i'm wrong, but as far as i know i, she can either the russian empire nor the soviet union or the russian federation i ever tried to enforce russian culture and language on the indigenous people, coach the brains, realization to them. so to say, you know, what have you seen in your travels were way not a gesture, bullet,

the excuse on the key. and well, neither got there have been some near bullets, call them necessary improvements, introduce their or the board like education, for example, you much thought someplace is religious missions were established. but it's true that russia has never tried to approved all any local traditions, genius, lifestyles, or culture coin you would see today. you can visit a small distant settlement, sir. let me give you an example. just give us throw up. even when we visited the numbers, severe sc islands financially, or la loca din of, so we met a crafts woman there. so user who makes deer skin footwear on p the terrible side that craft has been passed down to her through 4 generations of her ancestors than you might sir. e colonel great grandmother, fortunately made the same kind of boots with exactly the same design on dollar. russian explorer lewis baron from tall and he is all the rooks petition and you got

stopped at the novice abuse islands as these searched for the legendary sandy cough land in the early 20th century. and now i can say that i own a pair of deer skin boots sort of identical to those that are made for baron font, all the sport for those out of her hand. well, they're still available. i did see cuz this is a tradition that has been preserved for generations. the key task today is to help indigenous people maintain these traditions. got out of shocked by yet. we were making a film about a whale hunter, and those are one and a very long line of whale hunters. and any of course, and you know, people like me and you, but which we don't have that kind of self identity that he has always thought doing what his ancestors had been doing. been strict since the 11th century, near cable, pref, sure. and she is a wearing modern gear and striving and modern rhodes altima, but she is a whale hunter logged on a lot of that, but done support in the traditional lifestyles. and the local languages really

spoken by small groups of eto has pretty expensive for any state. it kills law. can't argue with that, it's much easier to create reservations for them. it was not necessary reservations . you could just have these people, assimilation exists what i meant. i said reservation stubbornly, yes, limit it is graded in russia. we have stayed support programs for such indigenous peoples and sheer of the form. i saw a lot of ethnic minorities involved color. there was a house of indigenous people at the far east street exhibition. also, russia will be presiding over the arctic councils for the next 2 years. and that sir, it was a significant studios. we actually ran a number of expeditions in support of to programs like these can wasn't deal and now is it all done for promotion? so we could have an exhibition of local traditions, sideshow, why do you think cause that for a big nation with imperial ambitions was manny see here,

what's the point of invest in ethnic minorities? let me explain this little of up to their political. what would i came to the arctic 10 years ago? what i thought that old people living there are the same surgeon, i call it bottom unit 1st, or that's what i saw or do. but later i realized that was not the case. and you said you had some, even reindeer breeders are all different. the events arrived the reindeer to steer the hurdle scaling all the novel of a pulley chief, followed the free roaming, heard it like that. and if seriously, if i can give lots of examples, they're all different. it is not ordinary. are some ethnic groups that have under a 1000 people, which is like the you cargurus blood, but each has its own remarkable history and culture units. and they are all part of our great country level. and when you see these indigenous peoples called because you realize how great on russia really ease of us with its reach and versatile culture, warned identity, say, this is incredible. all been done. we have to take

a short break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments sapient. sh . 50. ah, what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms race. his on offense. very dramatic development only personally and going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful. very

difficult time time to sit down and talk. ah holcomb back to one of the part of smith russian traveler. i'm going down the bullet shop. but i'm macrocosm before the break. we were talking about diversity in russia as yet i see just today the world is engaged in inactive discussion about the world order and different perspectives on life, financial politics. i know the war and ukraine is part of their discussion with cost here definitely was while in yet her diversity doesn't require them weights. but, and this really shows in your video just much that 2nd, that was put in your films yet, but did not seem like so why from so to say the evolve dwelt big brothers. a person

from a different place is go through is both true to himself. and tries not to change others source to when your opinion, how can we make the world except as diversity? no, again, you are jania. i got there at the moment ago, but i shot my seated. well, it's all relative looters. one man's trash is another man's treasure. blood recon different people can have different opinions, self, one of the same things to pop. so he will, we need to respect all views and them at the same time. so my loud people's right for concrete, la, self expression will chat. the always, i believe that russia is also very good at it. actually hold up, there's room for improvement. sure. but he general, we don't force anybody to give up their density or what's lost plenty in terms of ethnicity, traditions or in religion or when it illegal people enjoy these freedoms and russia on less that on the and i think that's great. okay. so when the risk you once said in an interview, that's if you had a chance to choose,

he'll join senior ex traditions, it's be has of the arctic state's work gap. i'm crashed at. what could they learn saying it on those ships than our law? the lab, but she's not so much about learning. look, a communion mold would be good for them to see how people leave inside the arctic circle because it changes you when you see people who don't have any social crutches to lean on. event it when you can you thought that if a person owns a snowmobile here quitting, it's not for having fun with your friends, surgery, the weekends suddenly coordinate puleo. i at that the hostile they use it to get food with water and other supplies to draw. it's their lifeline. it the reason? yes, liam will quit the world if people have no need for a social tool or a gadget. yes, they don't use them. fortune in sales, people there. don't get distracted by all. the social 1000 noise doesn't have all that information suggested to us like numb with all the ads coastal urging us to buy the newest smartphone mode or something for la la, la, la,

let in here. sure. so people often pursued these kind of things, goodness of them, but not there. you can sit in the family, no themes. and the satellite was, this comes down. she is, is an existential question. that we all can relate to. what is life and what is the meaning of it? what is freedom less true? now? sure. softly how your travels influenced your wealthy. as your think actor you feel changed into this like a whole? i certainly do of what is lifestyle and what is life on for lifestyle is something you grow up. well we do, i remember watching a cartoon about boom curled, a little polar bear with me as a kid. and that's how i started to like polar bears and the arctic, certainly later there were this fascinating documentary is from the shockey stows expeditions. i'll start one. she was the man who discovered an entire new world out there. i mean is, and he wasn't just observing it. she was sharing his findings with all of us. yeah . letting us see what he saw with his own eyes clergyman got out of her. that's what i grew up with her and it became part of my personality and the same as

happening to the people in kentucky, including in my subscribers and viewers who traveled to the arctic. miss cbs, you see something there, discover new mean was and a, just your bath in this world with a new coordinates do not. they also are to understand the worlds or, or at least her, our vast country, high jobs. you really need to see it, or think of all the regions as or pieces of a puzzle that the cook that you visit on 5 regions. you on the horse and you get 5 meters to bit balls. you put them together and see a part of the picture. marcia got you are to look for example, these pieces form and i the exam, but you don't see the full picture yet. you're telling you give you some knowledge from the media she has, but that's other people's opinions, not sharon, when i'm rolled out so you can develop your own view only based on your own experiences. that's how it works. i'm in the, in the beginning, as i mentioned, the hero spot was going in initiation into manhood. makeema, which is the staff of men of folk tales and myths in many cultures. and in maine,

it's about the path of the human sales, both individual and collective about they that starts off with i says thought the searching for something important, say the world my. she then finds it inside oneself. tell now when it says you either find it inside you or somewhere really close our porch, boerger says sacred johnny about to one's self. spicy think john have spirit chill grows. but i think your washer, whichever you ever had some revelations or what you felt like a miracle, anger journeys that he couldn't explain from a materialistic viewpoint. as, as i know, i've had some insights into the simple truth year that there's nothing more important than family. for example, no delivery to devote most your time to your loved ones, you the end, every journey is away home to put on my way home. you are right ash was and are you happy with one, sir? i actually rode all the way to the north pole. wait on my fat bike up, cyril. before that sir. i've been seeing people and in nordic countries riding

their bikes from the snow that i saw and i wandered for the water. i took a fair bike to my upcoming expedition to the north bowl. could they so all i rode my bike there and as i was riding alone through the arctic ocean, she hasn't missed something changed in me. why me? we all leave with endless background noise her. even if you are home, you shear clock's ticking appliances, humming song, and so on. in the other, in the arctic foolish tie, heard endless silence. skinny. would you like to see the only sound i heard you were 1st. my heart beat, which sounded like a drum beating and seconds here, but my inner voice square pure, which started asking questions like formula. what are we doing here? we are so i had to explain to myself that so bumps everything was. all right, so a little this or took off not and you're equally al goshen little un draft and by the silence paused absolutely or eliminated mid issue. and now i see that the arctic is not only design drastically space or just upper i. they show you what the

gold you are. yup. no. it's also an incredible sound chambers of sidney police where you can, which sheer yourself here the, the rushing far is in the changing, pulling my of legendary seeing if a russian traveler i knew from the early 20th century math. armika was also a prolific writer, but he never had a formal education from that, his knowledge was impressive. many russian travelers of the past come were a self educated as incomplete thing. the age of self education is over or is it on the beginning yard? almost thought, well, i don't think it's over and i don't think it'll ever be over. no, you see there are 2 kinds of people who deal with those who think about doing something else losing. and those who actually do things in some de la is who do things you simply act on their ambition. your hatch is like when i 1st said that i wanted to make a film, she'll plex when everyone started saying it's a very complex of fair that you needed team budget and all that. yeah, the sled, 7 days after i said it was, i was already filming, and she caught her with

a crew that was in the world. i just went for it was deal to. so i have the idea in the evening which i woke up the next morning. or an apple and i did it 9 o'clock please. what can russian people do to be more like that in their patched up thought? it seems like it's part of our character that term dog year old boy, that called only living. it does take us a long time to get started. he and others that i'm thought of, and we're always tempted to rely on others the much there. when you have that someone else is going to do your work law matches any fun fact of their ability. you mentioned could do a great service to our people starting as a grown lee, or we could come to realize what they're capable of not pay them. but i'm sure you can agree that we have immense potential law, not except ourselves for who we are, while originally nicotine him are, those will yield almost position. why? i think it depends on how you were raised as a when you, when you're abrazzo and i got him up pretty quickly. education is also important line and i'm not talking about academic education,

learning math and so on. formally the lithograph. kegler. sure. when you learn culture, when you learn values, as you develop, the desire to keep going forward to the idea to develop further even what so. so it's essentially about having a pension for developing me to an eagerness to learn lunch leticia. can you have that without traveling around your country or start? i think so, just it's just the traveling is one of the simplest ways to learn new things. first of all, if you want to learn something, you don't always have to run an expedition with a huge team and rides on the to the north pole and offend bike bacon as you can start by getting in your car or even hoping on your bike and exploring the neighborhood that you'll discover lots of things go on. i'm sure that most people haven't even been to some of the areas next to their homes in after that you can go further and eventually come here to the russian far east. for example, 6 people usually constrain themselves to a number of routes. i think you're talking about coming back from the virtual world

to real life and separate the can. we can only know the world if you data step into uncharted territory, not by any more bills long. sure, no. but you must always start by doing that soccer. good. it's to been, then you just look and see where it takes you. there are many rows to take a diesel. me, i say i thought about linear one last question now has on all time magazine forecast massively gratian did she within the next 50 years in senior bus quite a for see higher the serious climate change in you can say good of bands that severely and the arctic held that the 2 places where people can hide from the spreading heat and humidity ah cap on that question. what do you think about this whole cast of media? is the arctic prepared to house millions of displaced people? it is to gossip when it comes to global warming. yes, the problem does exist to way gleiss or glaciers melting with my own eyes. when i saw a place i had seen 10 years before and it looks completely different,

concur that the ice level has changed visibly himself. okay. got it in one place where you can see that sir, is the arctic part of your katya. we new days. mean your sir all the islands there, such as the new all new siberian island so but he consists of a cheaper well deserved. yeah. dirt mixed with ice throw on the west abuse. i don't know how it came to be, but it's essentially a mixture of dirt proportioned eyes postal eyes. so what's happening with these islands is that this dirt or just the lag and heaps melting away in the sun as also when we approached the shore, ourselves throw out the breeze. our gps tracker sat there too. we had reached the same point we deal if where we had got off for the last time the door, but there was no land there. right? yes. we had another 150 meters to go stuff in the city islands in last 150 meters of land in just 5 years. yeah, now it's simply melted into the ocean. the update. this means that the water level

rose accordingly or caught the greenhouse effect, grew stronger, and all kinds of other consequences are taking place in there could keep a yeah, and there's just one place, or we can imagine what's happening to the planet on the global scale. shoppable changes are underway in the arctic. sure is a big place, sir, which has a greater digit potential for our country, let alone it gets good that we have now started developing the arctic and the far east, the key to you can't have such vast territories and without suiting them to good use, he took the car will go, we have what i think is a good symbiotic relationship with the indigenous population. so some like where money companies here are come to develop resources that come but give back to the locals by building infrastructure. it allow 5 or 10 years ago, our people would leave her in a lonely place, lost in the snow, with one lamp posts lighting the road to port by sand. now they have more than houses with internet access, cafes and 80 m machines, thumb walls as governor la roman abramivitch will come carried out

a really impressive renovation campaign in chicago camp. what carol might take whelan witcher is the easternmost settlement in eurasia villa. a place with a view of alaska. if you go that oak of all you will see rows of neat scandinavian style houses in different colors, but i will see the end of one old, lopsided house between them that looks really run down to skin during our visit. to clean, we asked her if there was some one who could to give us advice on the route we had planned the will at um, and the locals directed us sir, to the local hunter who actually lived in that house. when you'd already put, we asked him what, at our, why wasn't your house rebuilt? like all the others little and he said, you know, when the government decided to bill display slash, half of the people wanted to keep their old homes itin. yeah. so the government, we found ways to lew them out of town and it's sending them to helpful results and so on would even be a start end. while the people were out of town state,

rebuild their houses. but the hunter refused to go anywhere. why, what i'm a hunter after all he said the door is little, so she is house, remain as it was. and now she says, like, my house is a monument to how unreasonable and ignorant i was. feel it when he saw the comfort so that the new houses offered. she realized that he should have allowed his home to be rebuilt to august. only the new houses are really comfortable. while back down, we have to live here, but i really appreciate your time today and wish you all the best sold the locked into your future trial of assume. thank you for watching hope to hear again on well, the part ah with mm

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