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mm, mm, mm con. welcome to wells. the part, the here is joanie. one of the most recurrent mythological themes in human history invariably brings the protagonist back to where the old began cooling time and time again, that would have been searched for, was already inside. this archetype pattern now manifests itself in the steep rise in russia's domestic travel, as russians faced with visit restrictions in the west let to explore the reaches of their own country. thus, every journey indeed lead home. well, to discuss that, i am now joined by dan bulletproof, a popular travel blogger, and russia, self appointed ambassador for the arctic and the forest. but are the study done? it's great to have you with us today. yeah, i'm glad we did. our paths crossed the eastern economic forum businesses in
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previous years, all green before was attended, been man international guess example, next francine, subordinates. yeah. not so many man. ruskin and the number of russians in nor traveling abroad is also dwindling. the other hand, domestic travel seems to be in the rise. now in russia and washington, many a touring the country, even though you think it's because they have no choice or is there really a lot of interesting things to see in russia? shesta mom prince picks him from michael bruce thought i believe it's what they call the silver lining lacrosse tournament. i think it was difficult for people to view russia. there's a place to explore. sarah, mainly because international destinations clearly had services of much better quality to offer thought east, and they were easier to get to us was just bay and you're all set below the chair. russia was really behind in terms of tourist infrastructure and quality of service applicants. now that people have started traveling around russia or so i'm really
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happy to see that for many and now discovering that there's so much more to it than they thought about it late by carl girl is not the only destination here or in the east it up like this for you so much more beyond that, watson, that in fact crossly are scarcely, which is located near by cow is right in the middle of russia halfway between its western, most when you mind eastern most point source jam. so i feel great to see my subscribers exploring the article go and the russian far east with their unique echo systems. and there's a lot to see there to me and what's important, just gimme, it's also a lot cheaper to visit on compared to well established tourist destinations. surely what i'll see also we're developing transportation networks here so, so my leading russian air carrier runs regular flights from moscow to mose destinations. so the russian far east will cause to the airfare to day score compared to say 5 or 10 years ago. he's so much more affordable. he is to some way
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interior snares, thought sam. i said, shows a you've certainly got a little bullet on bed. leslie of nas others near bohemia. not much late in the earlier saying. it's about comfort. come forth, santa tiff service san and affordability. is there anything else or is this the recipe for a good trip? wasn't it if the bell generally well, this is the recipe and yes, killed mcguire. we're talking about tourism. so it naturally tourism means travel. first and foremost, so it isn't that of transportation is certainly important. but as much comfort also matters. floor natal, whichever exotic destination you may choose to explore or you whether it's scape destiny of her with a view of alaska, we're just only 4 kilometers. separate of americans call bore c came to loose skin with a polar bears add them all wrangle islands. hills can us, you always want to return to safety and comfort law after experiencing extreme conditions for parents than you wanted right there. and then, so let me give you an example. here we were shooting
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a documentary recently in chicago. campbell, the when i was directing it or we spent a month there in total, mitchell and in that climate tickets we were both cold and wet all the time. every day i have no idea how or equipment kept working. it seems like a miracle to me. shares and coming back to dry warm please, sir, after a day's work was fantastic and more you could take off your wet clothes, take a hot shower, change into something, try and be ready to go out again. you bet you are a professional traveller. we need as much as you enjoy it. it's also what you do for a living. i love the shelton, i sure do we as that if i understand it correctly, you're trying to visit some of the less popular locations to me in my through i don't think that's right. or we try to direct on travelers to new destinations on what they're doing. i can give you a great example of this year. we reached the northernmost pointer on the continent in the russian far easily point is called comb with ox. the cape, it's in the katya with are the places incredibly beautiful, like
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a huge rock on the credit accounts into the arctic ocean. almost like an ice breaker at the sand is the northernmost point in the russian. far east of miss steely, we published our reports on both the russian and a chinese social media. mix it and got millions of views. miliano bras are some chinese tour agencies approached us keep asking to organize a trip for them so they could see it and assassin her as a potential destination for chinese tourists. what i'm got also this year we are going there with 7 asians delegations from china. we as well as a t v crew representing china's top tv channel to film it for you, or we have a tour planned out for them. most of it are that will include the box, the keep her name as well, the timer peninsula, to showcase everything including siberia in russian, far east and the arctic heal sub. so this way we are creating a product both for russian and national tourists. lloyd lane, theresa, what do they seem like i said i want though. i seen that as a popular belief impeach in russia,
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especially as young as that dog hearing. same line, 20 milan boys a lot cooler and more comfortable about a candle. one more accessible out one month than 2 in moments. clear to the point that many russian travelers was the means you should have traveled the world to me a little while their own country remains an uncharted territory for them. but with you just mentioned that trash already has places that can offer. so perhaps that while it takes periods as i saw, however, i wonder if russia has something, no other place has what she am i now with my only tougher nor usually go into a club shift so on. well, you know, i say the most unforgettable experience is in meeting people and play. you can find good and bad people everywhere last year. but in the north or in the arctic they are as authentic as it gets. yeah, we were making a film about an old whale hunter whose ancestors at a 100 wales for 7 or 8 generations we on tom was we were following him everywhere so much day and day out. and one day,
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when we came to his home home of his grandson of around 20 years opened the door. we said, do we came to film his grandfather, to which he replied that his grandfather was having a meal with the guard. so great was sad when can we start margaret? as soon as he has done shock that he said to us down and shut the door. i don't get it knocked out for she wasn't trying to offend us. it was just that simple for him . was the quote once his grandma was finished, it was wicked. we'll do our thing with washer. that's how they go about everything in life of simple and sincere, recorded. let's have very rare quality to find. he should almost present when it comes to natural attractions. we have everything we could wish war is like one great place, recommend to every one these days. and i believe it's going to be super popular soon as they are both was domestic and international tourists. again, he wants to live border restrictions are lifted over. is the southern and northern curial islands receivable inquiry with this place is mind bending. while there is like quick finding yourself on the saddle of
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a jurassic park movie or something like that, you will cross, it feels almost like iceland or you low foot in norway or store or some other places and you realize you can get it all these unique experiences cross of the quote all at once, and in one place several here in russia. 2 or last month, did you get a little, i'm not mistaken. it was dusty ascii, who said that russia includes everything in the entire were absolutely, it does. and the chair that i see is parts of russia the far east and the arctic mazano explored. by traveling enthusiasts and estates didn't contribute much to that quest. validate who has mostly private initiatives that have always admired how deeply these people cared for the wildlife in those parts misuse for the local population. correct me if i'm wrong, but as far as i know i, she can either the russian empire or the soviet union or the russian federation. i haven't tried to enforce russian culture and language on the indigenous people
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coach to bring civilization to them. so to say, you know, what have you seen in your travels were way not a just to bullet their scheduled a key and you, well they to go. there have been some near bullets, call them necessary improvements, introduce their or the board like education for example. you much thought in some places religious missions were established. if it's true that russia has never tried to uproot all many local traditions, one is lifestyles, or culture or coin. you would see today, you can visit a small distant settlement, sir. so let me give you an example of throw up even when we visited the numbers, severe sc islands, strangely, alar cardenas. so we met a craft woman there. so user who makes d skin footwear, until the terrible side at craft has been passed down to her through 4 generations of her ancestors than you might sir. e, colonel great grandmother. fortunately, they made the same kind of boots with exactly the same design. all of dollar russian explorer lewis barren from tall and he is sort of older expedition and you
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got stopped at the novice abuse islands as these searched for the legendary sandy cough land in the early 20th century. and now i can say that i own a pair of deer skin boots, wardrobe, identical to those are all that are made for baron from tall support for those out of the hand. well, they're still available. i did see that this is a tradition that has been preserved for generations. the key task today that she's to help indigenous people maintain these traditions or sort of shocked by them yet we were making a film about a whale hunter, daughter one and a very long line of whale hunters. and any of course, and you know, people like me and you that which we don't have that kind of self identity, that he has always thought doing what his ancestors had been doing. been strict since the 11th century, your cable pref, sure. and she is a wearing modern gear and striving and modern rhodes altima. but she is
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a whale hunter. look down, wasn't that big done support in the traditional lifestyles at a local. my language is spoken by small groups of people is pretty expensive for any state. angela can't argue with that, it's much easier to create reservations for them. it was not necessary reservation, so you can just have these people assimilation or exist. what i meant when i said reservations to currently yesterday, but it is graded in russia. we have stayed support programs for hostage indigenous peoples and sheer of the forum. i saw a lot of ethnic minorities involved color. there was a house of indigenous people at the far east street exhibition, also rush. it will be presiding over the arctic councils for the next 2 years. and that sir, it was a significant city also. we actually ran a number of expeditions in support or to programs like these going losing a deal. and now is it all done for promotion? so we could have an exhibition of local traditions,
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special. why do you think the stuff for a big station with imperial ambitions was manny? see here, what's the point of invest in ethnic minorities? let me explain this clip of up to their political. what would i came to the arctic 10 years ago? what i thought that all people living there are the same surgeon, i call it. but tommy on it 1st. all that's what i saw or do. but later i realized that was not the case. and you said you had some, even reindeer breeders are all different, the events, right? the reindeer to t of the hurdle scaling, all the novel of a pulley cheat, follow the free roaming, heard it like that. and if cyril's needs, if i can give lots of examples, they're all different from our ordinance, some ethnic groups could have under a 1000 people's digits like the u cargurus blood. but each has its own remarkable history and culture units. and they are all parts of our great country level. and when you see these indigenous peoples called could you realize how great all russia really ease of us with his reach and versatile culture and identity. so this is
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incredible o breakdown. we have to take a short break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments. say chant. ah, ah ah, what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms race, movies on offense, very dramatic development. only personally and going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very difficult. time time you sit down and talk ah
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well, come back to one of the apartments that russia traveller broken down the bullet shop by them like us before the break. we were talking about diversity in russia as yet i see just today the world is engaged in inactive discussion about the world order and different perspectives on life, financial politics. i know the war and ukraine is part of their discussion with a cluster definitely was millennia. her diversity doesn't require them weights, but, and this really shows in your video just much died sick and that was put in your films yet, but did not seem like so. why from so to say the evolve dwelt big brothers. a person from a different place is health is both true to himself and tries not to change others source to when your opinion, how can we make the world except as diversity? no, again, you are jania. i got there at the moment ago,
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but i shot my seated. well, it's all relative looters. one man's trash is another man's treasure, blood recon different people can have different opinions, self one at the same thing support. so he will, we need to respect all views and at the same time, some allowed people's right for concrete la, self expression will trip to the always, i believe that russia is also very good at it actually without there's room for improvement. sure. but he general, we don't force anybody to give up. their density are what's lost plenty in terms of ethnicity, traditions or religion or when it illegal people enjoy these freedoms and russia on less drama. and i think that's great. okay, so when the risk you once said in an interview, that's if you had a chance to choose how join senior expeditions, it's be, has of the arctic state's work gap. i'm crushed at. what do they learn? damn it, unload ships, them are long. the lab shoots, not so much about learning. look
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a communion mold would be good for them to see how people leave inside the arctic circle because it changes you when you see people who don't have any social crutches to lean on. event it when you can you thought that if a person owns a snowmobile here quitting, it's not for having fun with your friends, surgery, the weekends couldn't coordinate puleo. i at that the hostile, they use it to get food with water and other supplies. still draw. it's their lifeline. it the reason? yes, lima quit the what if people have no need for a social tool or a gadget. nice. they don't use the ban portion in sales people there. don't get distracted by all the social 1000 noisily. she all that information suggested to us like numb with all the ads coastal, urging us to buy the newest smartphone mode or something for no, no, not my let in here. sure. so people often pursued these kind of things goodness of thumb, but not there. you can sit in the family, no themes and the satellite was this comes down, she, editor and existential question that we all can relate to. what is life and what is
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the meaning of it? what is freedom? that's true, not a sure substance how your travels influenced your wealthier. just think. do you feel change into like a whole? i certainly do of what is lifestyle and what is life on for lifestyle is something you grow up? well, we do, i remember watching a cartoon about, boom, curl, the little polar bear with me as a kid. and that's how i started to like, polar bears and the arctic, certainly later. and there were this fascinating documentary is from the shockey stows expeditions austin, one, she was the man who discovered an entire new world out there. i mean is, and he wasn't just observing it. she was sharing his findings with all of us here, letting us see what he saw with his own eyes. clergymen got out of her, that's what i grew up with her and it became part of my personality. and the same is happening to that. people come to including my subscribers and viewers who traveled to the articles that she bear. you see something there, discover new mean was and a, just your bath in this world with
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a new coordinates tomorrow. they also are to understand the worlds or, or at least her, our vast country, high jobs. you really need to see it. or think of all the regions as or pieces of a puzzle that the cook that you visit with 5 regions you on the horse and you get 5 pieces to build bottles, you put them together and see a part of the picture or secret you are to look, for example, these pieces form and i knew that but you don't see the full picture yet. you're telling you give you some knowledge from the media she has, but that's other people's opinions, not sharon, from wrote out. so you can develop your own view only based on your own experiences . that's how it works. i'm in the, in the beginning, as i mentioned, the hero sparse, more scoring and initiation into manhood. makeema, which is the staff of men of folk tales and myths in many cultures and in maine, it's about the path of the human sales, both individual and collective about they that starts off with dias ish, not the searching for something important to say the world you might then find it
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inside oneself, toner. when it says you either find it inside you or somewhere really close our porch, boerger says sacred johnny bell to one's self spicy. the jonah spirit. chill grows . press your washer, which is have you ever had some revelations or what you felt like a miracle? anger, journeys that he couldn't explain from a materialistic viewpoint. as, as i know, i've had some insights into the simple truth year that there's nothing more important than family. for example, all delivery to devote most your time to your loved ones, you the end, every journey is away home to put them my way home. you're right sir. ashton was not happy with one sir? correct? i actually rode all the way to the north pole. wait on my fat bike up, cyril. before that sir. i've been seeing people and in nordic countries riding their bikes from the snow that i saw. and i wondered for the water i took offend bike to my upcoming expedition to the north pole. could they so i rode my bike there and as i was riding alone through the arctic ocean,
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she has missed something changed in me. why me? we all leave with endless background noise her even if you are home. you shear clock sticking appliances, humming song and so on. in the other, in the arctic furnished, i heard endless silence skinny beginning of the only sound i heard you were 1st my heart beat, which sounded like a drum beating. and 2nd hubert, my inner voice square pier, which started asking questions like formula. what are we doing here? we are. so i had to explain to myself that sometimes everything was all right, so at least this what took off not to enjoy equally. i goshen little un draft and by the silence of paused absolutely or eliminated bit ish. and now i see that the arctic is not only designed drastically space for what you're stopper. i, they show you what the gold you are. yup. no. it's also an incredible sound chambers of sidney police where you can watch a sheer yourself here. the. the rushing far is interchangeable in my of legendary seeing if a russian traveler i knew from the early 20th century mother,
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michael was also a prolific writer, but he never had a formal education. from that, his knowledge was impressive. many russian travelers of the past come were a self educated as incomplete thing. the age of self education is over, or is it on the beginning yard? almost thought, well, i don't think it's over and i don't think it'll ever be over. no, you see there are 2 kinds of people who deal with those who think about doing something else, luigi and those who actually do things in some de la is who do things you simply act on their ambition. yeah. which is like when i 1st said that i wanted to make a film, she'll plex when everyone started saying it's a very complex affair that you needed team budget and all that. yeah, the stud 7 days after i said it, of course i was already filming, and she caught her with a crew that was in the world. i just went for it was deal to. so i have the idea in the evening, which i woke up the next morning or an apple and i did it. now cleaning. what can russian people do to be more like that in their crash?
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the thought it seems like it's part of our character that term dog year old boy, that called a little thing of does take us a long time to get started. he another stop until the end. we're always tempted to rely on others the much there. when you have that someone else is going to do your work law matches, then your fun factor of the ability you mentioned could do a great service to our people. daughter is a grown lee, or we could come to realize what we're capable of not pay them, but i'm sure you can agree that we have immense potential law now except ourselves for who we are. while richie nicotine, him, art, israel dawn was position. why i think it depends on how you were raised the wine in yarbrough. so any got him up pretty quickly. education is also important as online and i'm not talking about academic education, learning math and so on. formally the lithograph color. sure. when you learn culture, when you learn values, as you develop the desire to keep going forward to the idea to develop further, he quit so, so it's essentially about having
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a pension for developing into an eagerness to learn lunch latisha. can you have that without traveling around your country or start? i think so, just it's just the traveling is one of the simplest ways to learn new things or so . but if you want to learn something, you don't always have to run an expedition with a huge team and rides on the to the north pole and offend like bacon. as you can start by getting in your car or in hoping on your bike and exploring the neighborhood that you'll discover lots of things go on. i'm sure that most before haven't even been to some of the areas next to their homes in you after that you can go further and eventually come here to the russian far east. for example, 6 people usually constrain themselves to a number of routes when i think you're talking about coming back from the virtual world to real life and separate the can. we can only know the world if you data step into uncharted territory. don't buy any more bills long. sure. no, but you must always start by doing that soccer. good. it's to been then you just
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look and see where it takes you. there are many roads to take a diesel on. yes, i thought that boss linear one last question now has on all time magazine forecast . massively gratian if did show, then the next 50 years in senior bus one got a for c hire, the serious climate change in you can say, go to brands that semi re and the arctic hold of the 2 places where people can hide from this braiding heat. and humidity ah cup on that, what i, what do you think about this whole cast of media? is the arctic prepared to house millions of displaced people? it just took awesome when it comes to global warming. the if the problem does exist way gleiss of glaciers melting with my own eyes. when i saw a place i had seen 10 years before and it looks completely different, concur that the ice level has changed visibly himself. got it in one place where you can see that sir. is the arctic part of your katya. we knew days menial, sir. all the islands there, such as the new all new siberian islands,
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or what he consists of which you are well deserved. yeah. her dirt mixed with icy of throw on the way to abuse. i don't know how it came to be, but it's essentially a mixture of dirt records and eyes postal eyes. so what's happening with these islands is that this dirt or just the lag that heaps melting away in the sun salsa when we approached the shore was fast throw out the breeze. our gps tracker sat there too. we had reached the same point we deal if where we had got off for the last time the door, but there was no land there. right? yes. we had another 150 meters to go stuff in the city islands in last 150 meters of land in just 5 years ago. now it's simply melted into the ocean. the update. this means that the water level rose accordingly, because the greenhouse effect grew stronger, and all kinds of other consequences are taking place in keeping. and there's just one place or we can imagine what's happening to the planet on the global scale. shoppable changes are underway in the arctic. sure is a big place, sir, which has
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a greater digit potential for our country village kids good that we have now started developing the arctic and the far east. the key to you can't have such vast territories without suiting them to good use. he took the course that we have what i think is a good symbiotic relationship with the indigenous population. so some like where money companies are come to develop resources that come but give back to the locals by building infrastructure in the last 5 or 10 years ago. are people would leave her in a lonely place, lost in the snow? those with one lamp posts lighting the road to port the brush and now they have more than houses with internet access, cafes and 80 m machines thumb while as governor la roman abramivitch will come carried out a really impressive renovation campaign in chicago. come what carol might take whelan, which is the easternmost settlement in eurasia villa, a place with a view of alaska. if you go that off or you will see rows of need,
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scandinavian style houses in different colors leveled to the end of one old, lopsided house between them. that looks really run down to scan during our visit to clean we asked her if there was someone who could to give us advice on the route we had planned that will let them, and the locals directed us, sir, to the local hunter who actually lived in that house, when you know what, we asked him, what at our, why wasn't your house rebuilt? like all the others little and he said, you know, when the government decided to bill display, slash, half of the people wanted to keep their old home sites in. yeah. so the government, we found ways to lew them out of town and it's sending them to houses olds and so on. would even be a storage end while the people were out of town and state, rebuild their houses. but the hunter refused to go anywhere. why? what i'm a hunter after all he said that the door is little so she is house, remain as it was. and now she says, like, my house is a monument to how unreasonable and ignorant i was. feel it when she saw the comfort
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so that the new houses offered. she realised that he should have allowed his home to be rebuilt to august when the new houses are really comfortable. fall back down, we have to live here, but i really appreciate your time today and wish you all the best sold the locking of your future trial of last year. thank you for watching hope to see her again on wells apart. ah ah ah ah
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