aah! in 1898. the island of puerto rico became a u. s. colony, but still retained its own cultural identity. he could speak in favor of independence should be thrown into prison today, close to half its population with moreover, residence in puerto rico have no representation in congress and con, vote and u. s. presidential elections. so like, okay, we're gonna make you american citizens, which you didn't ask for, even if we were office citizenship with her, and we would prefer our wrong when one sega is in his twenties, he chose to fight for his homelands, independence. we felt that we could generate more of a spirit of resistance rather than of submissive accept or reality that we fell asleep. shockingly unfair, my sorry,

that i decided to fight for my country. no, i'm not. could i have done things differently? yes, absolutely. do i now think that violence is not the means to achieve anything? absolutely. ah . with hello and welcome to cross top. were all things considered? i'm peter lavelle, by joining washington's ukraine proxy war against russia. europe is made, an irreversible choice. it is consigned itself to being a minor regional power in a multi polar world cutting itself off from russia. europe has all but assured it will be overly dependent on the united states. that dependency will be costly. ah,

crossing europe's choice. i'm joined by my guess, but see me post ghosts in london. he is professor of international relations at the university of east london as well as editor of the journal of balkan and near eastern studies in north florida. we have tom won go. he's publisher of gold, goats and guns, blog, and newsletter, and in prague we have brad blankenship. he's a com. this is c g t n, a freelance reporter she was as well as an r t contributor or a gentleman cross the girls in effect. that means you can jump in anytime you want . and i always appreciated, tom, let me go to you 1st in north florida. did i overstate my introduction that europe is consigning itself to be a regional minor regional power in a multi polar world. it's getting pretty bleak for the european future. i would say your thoughts, tom? yeah, i would agree with you on that peter. the, the issue for europe is that it's very clear that the, that russia is done with them and that's a bigger issue. now, knowing that this,

this oil price cap has gone into place. the, the funny part now is that, you know, the headlines are all being written that russia is going to have to cut production . and this is going to hurt their money. they're, they're the bottom line, the bubble bar, and it's always framed in terms of how bad it is for russia. but nobody actually talks about whether food has actually game plan for this, whether it has now a strategic move. cuz as far as i'm concerned, after the, the recent drawn strikes inside russia, we're looking at the de facto start for a major or kinetic war. and if i'm prudent, i'm not selling oil under any circumstances to my enemies. okay, let's see, let's say in london, basically the same question here because i like how, what, what tom said in the beginning of his answers that, you know, the, the, the russians have had it with the europeans. ok. but obviously in western media, it's always framed in a very the opposite way. here with tom's. absolutely. right. i mean, they need reliable partners. europe has shown itself to be unreliable,

particularly in energy. we had former chance. merkel come out and basically say, yeah, the min scope processes were just deploy, they're showing their hand, they're showing their, i'm sorry, they're really gross this on it's dishonesty. the russians are done with them. ok, now the euro pass to pay the price. go ahead in london. yes, i don't disagree with what i heard, especially with those who are what phone says what i would like just to give, take a deeper packing. all that in the discussion with that in the triangle between us, europe and russia. it has really ever been you open independent political oxford in global affairs. i doubt it was always dependent on the united states title in clear even the production of the year was pretty much a project encouraged by the united states. so mitch core to

call relationship between 0 and the united states, very strong ally in the sense of the world. and then so what that invest in this is always been strong, but on all united states, exactly united states was always was 6. hello. russia. from that project, i mentioned the 2nd to the end of the, of the 2nd world war that was the united states project with russia, from european past. so you got this back, it's my knowledge is correct. i think that russia despise all the prize stop by. we can start, dorothy was russia. she never stopped talking to europe. never. that's my, that's my mind. my understanding of is jason, in particular now in the mean a period in which globalization since, as we know it seems to be at the n or after 9 we need to fax re signer

in this war you're getting way ahead of me. it's on my checklist of questions, right? you're out, you're going to get great minds think alike. ok. grad basically the same question. but, you know, bradley pacific says that, you know, russian needs to keep talking to europe. but i mean, if europe wants to control the conversation, what is the point of having a conversation? ok, i mean, it has to be a 2 way street. it's not that way. right now. i don't think it's going to be that way for a very, very long time. go ahead, brad. you know, i can see that that's true because, you know, i think that there is, there is this kind of been a desire from people within europe to be politically autonomy, even though their entire political system do the you is been the holden to the united states but at the same time that the politicians here lack the courage to

stand up to washington, even though they know that washington is undermining their interests. but ironically, the same time as these politicians, these pro, you pro western politicians that are put in europe down this path. they don't really have any leverage here. i mean, there's kind of this running joke now in europe that we're going to be, you know, like a summer holiday destination for the chinese and the americans because of the industry here is going to be completely got it. and without cheap russian energy industry in, in central europe in germany is completely screwed. i mean, you know, when, when you look at central banks all over the world use energy, you use energy usage as a primary predictor of economic growth. and we've seen that that the demand for energy has gone down. and the same time you politicians are saying, this is a positive thing that we're building up our gas supplies, in case russia hall, the flow of energy to europe. but that's a bad thing. that means that economic growth here is going to go down. that means

we're going to be in a recession for years, if not decades, potentially without, you know, cheap ration energy that we can use for industry here. and i don't see that these politicians have any leverage, and i think that this is going to usher in just the industrialization of europe as a result. well, again, you have great minds think alike that was going to be my question for tom, is this, is this a an intentional plan to de, industrialize europe on the part of the americans? tom, i don't think it's the americans solely. that's doing this is the, this is the great heresy. on my part, i'm sorry, as an american, i see the old colonial hand of europe desperately trying to hold sway over the way they run. they use us as the tip of the spear i, i really think that this whole thing is ideologically driven. i, the europeans, they're the ones out there screaming about european values and democracy. we have to save democracy by destroying it and all the rest of it. if you look at people like vandalay and michelle and barrel, and the rest of them,

they're all ideologues for this thing in the americans are simply, they're cynical, ground troops and i, and that's the way i see this. and i, and it's almost impossible to get me off of this point despite that, it's very important that we stop just framing all this is oh, look at the evil americans pushing it with. i mean, little as far as far deeper and that my role is absolutely, i tell you this is important in europe is absolutely. um they're, they're lock step with the european with this. they want this war as much as everybody else. okay. when who blew up the pipelines, then the sealants. okay. i mean, obviously the u. s. benefited greatly from that at the cause. sure. germans in the cost of europeans would a lot. and let me, let me go to our get, let me go to my guessing line is in the hang on hang. sermons were top vending and the germans went along with the german glenwood. he wants to do a, let me go to my guest in london. but sealants, what do you think about that? because a gave the americans enormous leverage by,

by having those having those pipelines blow up, go ahead in london taxi. very a winner of this world to the united states because it increases on your blog, complete, and germany from, from, from russia and oil and gas as well. by the same time, the united states american protection sell from integration and subsidizes, it's called making its companies more competitive. witness, they 430000000000 faces reduction. i mean, united states is very much a consensus, actually always was no disengage european energy policy from the from rash circle. every european by the expensive l m. d, which is not even enough. that's why that's why russian government continue continue to be although they kept it now, they want to cover the price. but even this is not,

not going to be later on. and russia has many alternatives that, but my initial point, i think you should be taking a board. why? because it depends on what kinds of solution we want on here for that. what do you want an american solution? what do you want a solution which is marked by the found by europeans and russians, and chinese, you want a european, you raise your solution or in america so. so that's the key question. right? that's a very interesting question. we'd like to feel that go ahead. yeah, i mean, you know, i think that we know the question of whether or not the europeans or the americans or whoever is running to show us for sure. the americans. i mean, you know, that's definitely true that the europeans, i mean that america is definitely a product of the colonialists being peerless the ologies that emerge in europe. better indigenous this continent here. but the united states is,

is the crystallization about, i mean like the nazis said that the greatest moment and in the history of white power is the creation of united states of america. everything that is wicked about the west is, is, is ramping in washington. and the solution that they're putting forward is, is everything that's evil and dastardly about the west. that's the solution that putting forward it's domination in joe biden gives a speech a t s m c. the new headquarters that so being states and says that we're putting out american products, this is not just a signal to the chinese, you know, that there is a trade war against china. this is also talking about south korea that's talking about japan. this is talking about europe, especially, you know, that the industrialization of europe will benefit america with, as the other guests mentioned the, the inflation act. yeah. you know, the united states is setting themselves up to benefit greatly from the

industrialization europe and the death. that's going to come on this continent here, even though supposedly we're lock step, supposedly we are equal partners with the americans. but that's not true. well, i mean, the white one sided and trying on guy usa gone guys, i have to go to a break gentlemen. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on europe, joy, stay with our kids. the the, me. ah,

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which europe would be part of, and there'll be other globalization of china we can talk about as well. we, it seems to me that there is a parting of the waters as it were, go had tom and north florida. i agree with all that. i also think, oh, most of it i, what i really think is going on here, don't get me wrong. i'm not trying to absolve the americans for their part in what's happening out here. it's clear that that's what's going on. i just don't want anybody to, to think that europe didn't make a conscious choice here. that this, that the perceived weakness of european leaders is as being subordinate or vassals to the eyes. it's, it is just nonsense. it doesn't, it's not real. so when you look at what's happening, but i think is happening is very clearly that there are forces within the united states or that are working to try and save what's left of what's been hauled out over here. while others are still trying to sell it out, i think the by the ministration is trying to sell it out. i think we're, we've seen a push by the federal reserve in the near sand,

new york money center banks in order to stop that process. really somewhat and we see with the end of globalization, with the clear end of the dollar reserve standard on the horizon, there is a breaking of the system and europe is going to be left in the dust and it's in geo politics. there are no allies, there are only interest and as far as i'm concerned, you install a fungus like biden, for the purposes of doing, of tax normalization with europe. so you're ruinous tax policy energy policy that's in st. lockstep with top 27 and all that stuff, like at the end of the day, i don't see the biden administrations working for the united states. and i think this is part of the, the, the real disconnect here. and that's the issue for me. any. and i see all of these, these, these things happening. i don't disagree with that, but the yes, on the big trend it is, don't think that the americans are the sole evil empire here. i think that's a very, that's a very dangerous narrative and letting the europeans off the hook for their complicity in this blues. they want to do this, the destruction,

the middle class in europe is not a bug. it's not a bug created by the americans. it's a feature of what, what europe wants to do to transform itself into the next version of the ussr. his that's what the e was because well, i mean, democratic poet bureau, well, i, yeah, absolutely, i absolutely agree with that here. but one thing if i go back to our guests in london, i mean there's one commonality here and we know who, who is a top of the totem pole. we can all discuss that until are all blue in the face. but they do have one thing in common is ideology, they're all ideologically, possess this neil liberal ideology. that is one thing that they all have in common here. and it's disastrous for middle class is all across the western world. go ahead in london. okay. yes, a i, i can't say i disagree with who as i head, but he said it's important that we get our priorities right. who is the dominant power today in the global system in the west european union or the united states?

european union does not even qualify for the call. the state is not, doesn't have federal sector, has some, some primitive federal structures, but it doesn't have a few on unity. there is no even a union of the banking sector. after the massive or biking crisis. we have the leaders in crisis joke. european union can be very well defined, us an international organization or should be more ties on the, on the united nations are. so we don't, we don't deal here with unified actor. that should be taken away. that's so crucial . it is so so crucial to understand that nathan, institutionalized, the dependency of europe from the united states, the boys hear their voice. the peons have is pretty much a boy's, or b elite abuto p o business inc. that is with the lips of united states business in person also they can book on security security practices. so do not be surprised if

i tell you that so many splits that are within the european carly european commission and solely just no one wants. that's why i keep saying, keep talking to europe. yes. if you don't want to play the u. s. game of excluding russia from european affairs, russia should not be excluded from. well, ok, but let's see, let's say, you know, who is excluding home here in europe. it is excluding russia. ok. not the other way around. ok. well, you know, and, and, and it came to a finer point here. as you've already said, this program, russian energy is still going to europe. ok. they didn't cut it off. it's a europeans that are cutting off russian energy here. let me go to brian. he'll let me go to brad in prague here. you know, one of the things that we're hearing is that the, the, the americans want the, the europeans to go along with their policies against china. that's not going to go down very well in europe. brad. yeah, actually i just wrote

a piece about this and in fact, you know, you'd bind people, i just, the bro even have the courage to say that european countries don't want to have to choose between beijing and washington. and that's because it's just in their plain self interest. i mean, but making the china has a lot to offer the european union trying to consumer market within the next decade will be bigger than the united states. and they are hungry for european goods. i mean, as long as those guys are cheap and not, you know, completely screwed on price because irrational energy is not accessible to the market of course. but, you know, there's, there's a lot of fruitful cooperation there. and i think there's a lot of nato alice not locked up on this. i think i would like to come in with the other guess. i think we also definitely have to be very crystal clear that europe is budding out russia, but that is to be, has to be american. i mean, they have tens of thousands of troops here. they spy on european politics, and these are demonstrated will fax. we know that you can you walk out your door

here in europe and you see it, they are colonizing europe. call europe is a vassal state. the united states, the you, it's not a country. this is disjointed, countries that are being forced against each other. and just as you know, the globalization has created a natural relationship between russia and that you integrating both of these economies. i think that there is a natural relationship between the russian people and people in europe. here, there is a natural political relationship just as globalization has been fruitful for both sides in russian energy creating europe's industrial base. i believe that the russian people are inextricably connected to people here in europe, not least because they are european of course, you know, i think that we have to be clear that it's washington doing this. and i think that russia should continue to engage in europe because russia needs to be a political actor in europe. and that's also because the united it part of its

grand strategy is to forces to compete with china by pushing it out of europe, forcing it to be an asian power enforcing china and russia to compete against each other. perhaps breaking their strategic cooperation, which would be detrimental to the world. the strategic cooperation between russian china is so important in keeping this multi pearl polar world, emerging multiple world ordered together one that is against the american hedge money and that is so important. okay tom, yeah, i saw you nodding your head there you are in agreement. go ahead tom. i agree that i agree that russia and china need to be, than they need the same walks up with one another and, and in no way did anything bride to say. tells me that, that, that's not going to happen. what they just like moved to strategic palmer's across to each other's air basis. for i say nothing the u. s. is doing is stopping right. it, they're trying desperately to drive a wedge. that's what follows. he going to taiwan was of us what the chips act was about, and i get that. but understand that you listen, sitting in prague,

you cannot see what's happening here in the united states, which is our institutions are being destroyed from within, from foreign powers. and it's very obvious, none of these people work for the united states. they are all trying to normalize our or even make worse, our ability to handle capital and make it handle capital worst than they already handle it in europe. ok, because capital flows were capitalized, treated best, and right now it's still treated best by the united states. 21 percent corporate tax rate versus a 20 percent 26 percent france they want, but buying wants to raise it to $28.00. now, why would he want to do that if he's actually acting in the americans or american interest, he's not. ok, none of this is about keeping the right night states alive. this is about this, this is, am i literally breaking up the united states and too many people are actually going to tear this and this is go and this is a bad idea. not that i'm a huge fan of the united states in any way, manner, shape or form. but all of these things are being driven, as peter mentioned, as by ideologically possessed, people who believe that we can move to

a different type of system. ok, and it's not necessarily just the americans driving this. there are it, is it, it is at the end of the day whether we are going to have public formation of happ, public capital formation or private capital formation. and there are forces within the u. s. that still believe in private capital formation and the people at the top of our political system are aligned with europe that we need to have public capital formation. the end of sent the, the end of commercial banking, the end of all of that stuff. and this is all the sub text of what's going on with the, with the, the situation in ukraine and how it's being handled. but the don't kid yourself in any way, manner, shape or form. this is about the destruction of the united states. and everybody thinks that will be a great thing. i got news for you at the united states falls apart in the worst way imaginable. no one is going to be happy about the results. nobody. well, the russians are pans 9. ok. because of that, you think the do you think the end of the ussr was ugly? you just wait to see what happens. dad says,

well if it goes down it's going to take a good part of the world with it. there's no doubt about that. ok. because he lives in london kick in the european union survive because you know what, you know, people talk about getting through this winter. ok. they're going to get through this winter will be uncomfortable, but they will. but what about the next 5 winters? that's where the real challenges go ahead in london. either i can predict the future. it will be tough for everybody. again, you have to realize, i think the people a few of understand that is what is wrong. so you appear rational agency, go back to normalize it. well, i thought it was, it was in the face of germany to blow up if i thought, i think he was an english knight at station pipelines, the northern seam and so on. there were, these are here in germany, and this is what we like says one stop the european snow, the lease you know very well. but when they speak, they speak with american language. that's my point. there is not political unity.

if you do have any dependent on it or stooped to shape a stretch and he's up to russia to leave by 3 months a year from a as great. i mean, 1997 been state wrote a book, the parents of the gun says boy, the purpose of that book was how to avoid the americans having to face the situation in which europe moscow and china will have a united grayson eggs. and i last, we have run out of time gentlemen, but i think that's why we have the answer. that's why ukraine happened in the 1st place to, to address what we just heard in london. that's all the time we have gentlemen. many thanks, i guess in london, prague and in north florida. and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at ortiz, see you next time. remember, trust huffmans? ah

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