i believe there will be a strengthening of relations between molly and ivory coast along and mannion. i'm malia and i think this is good news. molly and ivory call starlight 2 sisters. this incident is unfortunate, but as the president took the initiative to pardon these 49 soldiers, i believe that misfortune has a good site. in fact, it's beneficial and we're grateful trustee me going to for being open, mind it. we hope it can be a means of reconciliation between the 2 countries that have at some point gone separate ways in what google people are watching closely requires is between beecher and a by michael. where believe that issue so is listen for the next die immune one. now while my did it, 1st of all i was supporting the sanctions because when someone in africa to set an example for all the leaders, we shouldn't let such a situation. slight, what was the purpose of this soldiers? and molly, i believe a semi goiter did the right thing to keep them. and molly, despite all the pressure from they were in government,

he did his best to set things straight. so pardoning them is also a good decision because molly and i have re coast are to brother other countries. so he was right to pardon them, but was also right by set an example for all the youth in my yeah, molly, no. authorities claimed they were not aware of these. so just presence in molly the government held. oh, so just during the investigation. and since molly is a state of law and justice, the government gave its verdict and decided to free them and its decision will serve as an example to other states. wow, go, go played a cure to find a solution. good problem. last week for your sim bay was in miley to finalize the scenario. we then lee's little out of the woods. we heard from a professor of international relations, or the university of marco in molly, who says the pardoning was a set tools, but a ties between the 2 neighboring west african countries. ladder is not yet the of

the presidential pardon that was granted. the 4094 in soldiers by the transitional president is really good thing. it helps enhance the relationship of friendship and brotherhood between the 2 countries. naturally, this helps to warm up the relationship. my molly in the ivory coast have hard cold relations since the beginning of this affair last july. so this will help breathe new life into the relations between the 2 countries. i think that the release has already been recorded in a memorandum. the memorandum was signed. i believe on december 22nd, and abby john signed a strong delegation, made the trip to buy marco and bama co signed. so this is a legal framework that has been established. normally, this should not lead to retaliation. it's normal, international relations between 2 states whose relations are old, historic relations of friendship and fraternity. it's normal, we have to make peace because none of the 2 states has an interest in an open

conflict. so we must also acknowledge the mediation of togo, which made it possible to give away out not only to the molly ins, but also to the ivory authorities. so every one has made an effort. and i think we have to salute that with all that i thought this is our night fiddler well is on call full, and the will be back here within the hour. more interesting news. ah, ah ah

hello in welcome to cross top where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle piece in ukraine. seems essentially impossible. and there's a reason for this. nato wants russia to be completely defeated. russia and turned demands new pan, european security structures, protecting it's interest. as long as nato exist, there'll be no peace or security for anyone. i cross stuck in ukraine. i'm joined by my guess fed escobar in paris. he's an independent geopolitical analyst, an author specializing in eurasia and brussels. we have look rebate. he is an independent journalist and in kingston we cross who geral, 70. he is founder and director of trends research institute and publisher of the weekly trends journal magazine or a gentleman cross hoc rolls. in fact, that means you can jump in any time you want and i always appreciate pepe. let me go to you 1st here. there's a huge aysa asymmetrical process in play here. the europeans,

the west collective. once it's a c or a russia completely defeated, russia wants security guarantees, and i have a solution to it. and it's a simple one. why don't work towards peace, and that's something that the west will never do. pepe, of course not, and they keep saying that every day, why school defining stolt, embarrassed by american generals, via and tony will terrace the story, portuguese, the head of the you. when i read she in london every day, we have a call to our sound bite from one of these, of course, not to mention the 28000 or 28000000 function errors in russell's thing is that kind of the same thing. planned a continuous on schedule plan a is forever war. plan a is afghanistan on steroids at least another 20 years. there's no plan. be so far

. russia they can play it. ok. we can finish this thing in 20 minutes, which they can or ok. all right, let's keep going. little by little you flickering very refined the form of chinese torture on natal as a whole and on the west leadership as well. and let's see one day you're going to cry, uncle. well, i agree with the general me go to you in kingston here. this a symmetrical approach here because this explains how russia is preceded in ukraine because it wants security guarantees. it's not going to take land that it can't determine its destiny. ok, they're not going to go in and leave. russia is not going to do this in 5 years in another 10 years. this is why this is a defining event in this century. here, there has to be security guarantees for all or there will be security guarantees. for none, go ahead. you know, this is the american way. as i was saying once, upon a time there was

a president the united states by the name of dwight d eisenhower. 5 star general supreme commander of the allied forces and to charm president is say a well, a jess, january 17th, 1961. he was the american people that the military industrial complex is robbing the nation of the jesus sciences to sway the labors. 0 world war 2 is in ancient history. look at all the was america's been since then. it like the korean . oh no. i like the vietnam war. a have out the 1st iraq when i like the 2nd iraq war a lot better. you know, the afghan war was terrific. it only lasted 20 years. oh, what about what's going on in somalia? how about the nobel peace prize winner brock o'bonham? i want that guy gadhafi out of it. i want that guy assad added a libby in in syria. qaddafi and livia,

the united states just passed a defense budget of $858000000000.00. so a $105000000000.00 of our money now is going to ukraine. 63 percent of americans living paycheck to paycheck. it's the american way. oh, it's not stopping this is my magazine from spring 2014, that happy face on their washington is driving the world to fight the final war. world. gemini is not a right america has earned article written by dr. paul craig roberts, former assistant treasury secretary of the ronald reagan and he talks about russia, conclude wash included, that russia needed to be confronted with or distracted by problems that would leave

the russian government less confident or able to counter washington's aggression elsewhere. ukraine presented to perfect opportunity for washington. okay, geral insurance, gerald on that. on that note, i agree with you. okay, let me, let me go to look here. get everybody in the mix here. luke, i mean it because the nato will not discuss russia. security guarantees as reason why we're in this mess in the 1st place, okay? and as long as they continue to do that, russia will do well, unilaterally make its own decisions. if it doesn't happen to interlocutor, then it will make its decisions on its own and what it will not care what the west says whatsoever. because the west really can't do anything about it. and that's what we've learned. luke and brussels go ahead. while the responsibility of nature is over, well, of course in, in the conflict since day one and dawn, of course we follow america and should, you should dissociate from america on this america it, once war, russia we don't,

we should and the europeans. oh, so the victims of his own. so we need to find a p strategy and we should look for example, in turkey. we should look at hungary, countries whether leaders are responsible. people say, yes, we must have something on the medical front on the social from dish, but not send arms and be part of that conflict with your salt and beg and mental, we should not do that. well, you mentioned a low octane thinker, salt and berg. let me go back to peppy here. well, that's exactly what he is. ok now, has had one journalist ever asked him a hard question. ever, never, it's never happened. okay, and that's, that's by design peppy notes. the other bergs as a victory for russia. is it a feel for the west? yeah, yeah, that's what i think i agree with him on. okay. but of course, nato is not part of the conflict. okay. i mean, it's absurd. what this man says here, but i agree with him and i was actually,

it will be the end of nato. the way that the, if they continue the down the path, they are pepe. go ahead. well, of course, with nobody knows what the general or the russian general staff, displaying mid term and long term nobody acquired from a putting part through share in may be jet us in more than showing did they have a menu which is so juicy in terms of inflicting geopolitical and g way konami pain, different levels of the dial on europe and on the u. s. which is, you know, you have to laugh about it and the bill to dismantle. they tried to win it. remember what they were try one year ago. diplomacy? you remember the visibility of security, right? those letters sent to the pentagon and to brussels. you all remember the non response response. you all remember what happened next, which was the preparation sort of blitzkrieg against don't boss. so we know

everything that happened up to the beginning of the s m o. and we also know how russia is, has been to weaken the approach stores d s, m o, which is now for all practical purposes, d, electrification campaign on top of dina's, if occasion and demilitarization it's working. and on top of it, they get absolute chaos and panic. all across the u. this is something that you see from outside the u. i just came back from brazil, which is in a very sorry state after the boss on our project. and even from brazil, looking at your bill, seeing as birds is not that bad. i'm happy you bring up a good point. if i go to gerald on this one here, i mean a, again, after 10 months of the same thing, they say continue to double down on it without any kind of what they claim that ukraine is winning, which is absurd. i mean, this propaganda in the west is absurd. it's ukraine is not winning. pepe is

absolutely right. i would even posit that ukraine will turn into a failed state before there is a military decision on the battlefield. gerald, what are your thoughts on that? oh, we said from the beginning that ukraine is not going to defeat russia. i have a famous chart of napoleon is march to moscow. ready in 1812 we are in lees, holland with 420000 troops to attack moscow comes back with 10000. and then it was a thing called a world war. 2 operation. barbarossa with a germans killed some 25000000 russians and who was the 1st to defeat the germans, the russians. and you mentioned about propaganda and that's all it is. and that's all it ever is. and all the media does is keep selling it. i just found this a couple of days ago. it's from 1960. this is the headline.

soviet threatens rocket sat spy basins. so now we really hate those soviet right. you read the article member, this is may 10th 1960 premier. nikita khrushchev warned monday that soviet rockets was, shoot down any spy plates, that vento is soviet soil and his government will take appropriate measures. american plays of flying always. so the territory and they put a headline in like this. so if soviet plays were flying over american territory, it would just be fine. everybody would love it. it's the warming shane period. paragraphs. it's been going on and it's not only destroying the world destroy this country as well. and it is kinda going on and i mean, i make and is non stop. i'm again look in here before we go to the break it up. but, but look, what is the veneer of this propaganda up program failing? i mean, now we have protests all through europe here. i mean, what in the world you're the european union is willing to die on the hill called

ukraine. that's insane. 40 seconds before we go to the break. jake isn't saying i would agree with you when you say that you crime could become a faith state. it is a fail. the muppet show since the end of the month i show the ukraine politics. so now we see, so landscape was corrupted since 2012 with properties in london with accounts in b, b. and then obviously you know what you see in all the places corruption, brady, while people like to 5. gotcha. so it is a real problem to see that the propaganda is really solid for all the media that we have here in western europe. it is the voice of here, and that's what and that's why we're pariahs. ok, but not as you know, rumble were on rumble. when

a few other platform is we'll get our word out. the hell with you to my opinion. i gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on you're going to stay with ah ah, ah ah, welcome back to cross top where all things are considered. i'm peter about to remind

you we're discussing ukraine. ah, ah. okay, go back to pepe and parents. yeah. you are a prolific writer and i really appreciate it. my wife, i don't think i ever really miss a com a couple of days ago. you wrote something very long article, very good. but this one sentence really stuck out to me. i'm gonna read it everybody here. a quick win for russia would be a loss because nato would still exist. no, russia has to pace this, so it sucks nato into the grinder, your spot on, right, peppy. why don't you explain what you mean there? ok. without using our collective crystal. busy balls, maybe this is to narrow number one, the for the russian general staff because they see that seen only 10 months is being working miracles. so why not? 20232024. and now they have in direct confirmation from all

sources that the us wants to prolong this thing, at least until 2025. don't forget the death contract that raytheon fast with the american government to supply them with state of the art anti missile defense. and guess when they're going to deliver that november 2025. so we have for sure. let me, i'd pepe. i mean, that big. that big 2 things. i mean, will ukraine still exist? that's up in the air? probably not. probably not. but i'm agreeing with you and let me go to gerald, because i think it's really important here because western media likes to frame this as a russia ukraine conflict. it's not that it's russia, the, it's a west, the western world, nato world against russia. and the russians accepted the challenge. and what i think is, is, is in the cards right here. alright. they want to use ukraine is

a cudgel against russia. well, russia will use ukraine to destroy nato, and i think that is in the cards. that's one of the reasons why the russians are taking their time to watch nato exhausted, so, and watched the european union humiliate itself into bankruptcy. go ahead, gerald. yes. in no, in the sense that america is going to keep the war going. a pet they mention raytheon, where you did, i mean, who is the defense contractor or the united states? i the excuse me, the defense secretary was young. what was his last job sitting on the board of directors, raytheon. so they're gonna keep this war going as much as they can. again, it's the military industrial complex, and i want to make this 100 percent clear. america is at war with russia. yes. it's not a proxy war. and these are the words from loyal austin. the defense secretary,

who said he told nbc, report that the um, the reason for you as troops in ukraine was they need quote, experts in the country to help ukraine use critical weapons systems. so america is in ukraine with u. s. troops showing them how to use critical weapons. they are using the critical weapons. if this is not stopped, world war 3 has already begun. and it's going to annihilate the world, a nuclear war. what people don't understand is that you have mentally ill people that are in control, that have a great soul of the demonic, satanic spirit. because they,

there is not one word you were talking about protests in europe. zip not and nothing in america. peace is not allowed to be spoken to her, and we just heard the national security advisor this jake sullivan said. there's no time right now to talk the piece yet because because victory is not within their grasp. luke, just the opposite. a victory is staring them in the face. okay. and, and of these missile systems, the patriots systems. you know, everybody, let's be honest, here the u. s. military has been fighting sheepherders around the world in this century. ok. it's never even even close come to appear. power, and this is exactly what we're seeing right now. we're seeing all these expensive weapons that don't work there. it's a complete griffith. ok, and look, i don't care how many american advisors go to ukraine. they should be a be aware because the russians have i in the skies. they can see exactly where

they are. luc well, as you say, and the young weak are all major. feel like all the europeans. well really, we don't have a mission to live, right. i mean, frost crenshaw accomodation for over you will if they were while so how can we deliver it? 80 counts to the ukranian army or a and logan list. i'm sorry. let's go from what i understand. at the beginning of the conflict, there were $200.00 german tanks and only 10 of them worked. yes, yes. fast to mrs. found the line was on the head of the european commission. you know, she was minister of defense for 8 years and the buddhist via the german army is in texas because of her. so that's a good use of how, you know, in the german speak about. it was a smile. so dad, i look, look, i, i can guarantee you, they spend more money at nato bu phase than they do on german tax. ok. i can

guarantee you that. ok, pepe, you know, the, the thing, the, what you and i have been thinking about a, actually in unison over the last few months. i mean, we're not having direct contact all the time. but we're very much moving in the same direction here. and, and, you know, it's very interesting, rushes is facing the entire onslaught of the west and the world is watching and the world is amazed that russia is taken on the collective west. and it's certainly not losing. i would even say it is winning. if you look at the it, what winning means on the long term thoughts? peppy? absolutely. 87808889 percent of the global south as a whole. and some patches in the global north as well. they have not condemned russia. they have not sanction russia, and most of them understand russia's motives and that, that's the merits of course, goals to absolutely faultless russia. diplomacy, you know,

run by essentially by love it all, but the, all the deputy prior foreign ministers, absolutely brilliant as well. and of course, the hard nodes which bricks, which soon is going to be bricks plus sion guy, corporation organization. the strategic partnership between the russian and the chinese and these interlocking partnerships between russia, china, india, and iran. what i termed a few weeks ago, the quad that really matters. these are the quad or cross racial that's really matter. so each terms of soft power globally, russia has got it because they manage to explain their position. this is the thing is they. ready they can not, in fact, finish this war in 20 minutes, because this would be a written mix of america. shocking. all. yeah. and that's not what russia once russia, once the global sized, the global south on their side. so it has to be little by little and this a form of chinese starch. torture,

which is strategic ambiguity in the words of the russian general staff and the global south bought it. they are on board because they understand that russia now is that the vanguard of this fight against him? well, and if you went and peppy and peppy, you know, the global south, they remember the european colonial experience. you know, it's not a joke. the russians weren't there, but the europeans were. ok, gerald, this war is not going to end in diplomacy. it's not going to end in negotiations because from the russian perspective there's no one to trust in the west angler merkle admission recently. petro put a shank o, the former ukrainian president, they lied their liars, so there's going to be no to go shaded end to this. it will be a unilaterally decided by russia, because there's no one to trust in the west. gerald. yes, so what you said about merkle and in for a shank of that, they admitted that the minsk agreement was a total fraud just to get ukraine built up stronger so they could fight against the

russians. here i'm a trend forecaster, we have a system called global nomics. we're talking right now about, you know, war. so we look at many different fields and one of them, of course, is to look at is what's going on with the global economy. so of course, with the sanctions they put on russia, you know, of energy prices are going up. there's a lot of hardship in, in europe. that's why you see the demonstrations. one of my sayings is when all else fails, they take you to war. we are facing age geopolitical, socio economic crisis, the likes of which we've never seen before. that had been brought about by all the cheap body they pumped into the system. yet when they forth, a coven wall. so let's go back to a thing called a great depression and what followed it were a war to what followed the dot com bust. oh, you mean the war on terror? when i'm telling what i'm saying is that when the economy crashes,

they get the people's mind off it with war. and they had going to do the same thing . now, american people, when i was a kid, dad is hiding under a desk because the russians were gonna drop an atom bomb. i remember doing the same scale. and i remember, i remember. so what i'm saying is you're going a russian missile just landed in poland and killed school. people done that on day . oh, i see at night. how do you see how quick it happens? how they believe that of 2 people were killed. 377000 over there in yemen. now we don't care that yemen what. but anyway, what i'm saying, she every one is that when all else fails, they take you to war. the global economy is failing and they will get to people's minds austin, misery with war. okay, let me. we have one minute left. look in your crystal ball here. i won't hold it to

you, but we're coming to the end of this year by the end of next year. how many governments do you think in the european union will fall? i won't hold her to it. batting possibly several. on the andrew i saw you fall in government, it's also a majority crumble and the opinions within the european union debt will change at all. we're phone issues at the european parliament with corruption, bike todd and things. and we see that these people at the european parliament have great ideas about ethics and morality. they're all so it's going to get worse in europe and of the approval. so he said, i see depression in future certainly. but america is sitting, making a lot of money with the european stupidity, sending us their ellen g. i'll be strong, the european

a call me and all making that the euro will never be a cause you preserve any more. i want it all gets down to will end on this. it all gets down to being ideologically obsessed and greedy. okay. oh and they're not and hubris at that. absolutely. taking no responsibility for their actions. that's where we end this year gentlemen. as all the time, i want to thank my guests in paris, brussels and in kingston. and thanks to our viewers for watching us here, are the see you next time. remember ross? ah ah. when i was so think wrong, when i was just a to shape out, the theme becomes an advocate. an engagement equals the trail.

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