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tv   Worlds Apart  RT  January 9, 2023 9:00pm-9:31pm EST

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ah ah ah with mm gone welcome to world war, the favorite topic or political analyst over the last couple of months has moved from the realm of speculation into a fast shaping reality with russia announcing personal mobilization. what it sees as a war with nature and the collective quest, not the more boards,
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no the proxy war and not the trading of sanctions, full blown kinetic conflict with already thousands of data on both sides. can anything be done to prevent further installation to discuss it? i'm now joined by demetrius constance, a couple of political analysts for my advisor to your degree prime minister address on jo demetrius. it's a great pleasure, great honor for me to talk to you and i really like you so much unity to communicate. because i think we, we may not have it for a long time because russia and europe seem to be enemies yet again. and those differences tend to be truly irreconcilable. what do you think it's all heading? thank you for your invitation. thank you for you to be with you and with your i'm happy about i'm a happy also for the reasons for the topic to discuss today.
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because it is to, we are sending everything indicates that we're heading to a very important crisis. and i would want to exaggerate, if i would say this, is this your asserting even the survival of humanity in different ways and took it should be a musician, at least i don't want to be too alarmist, but it all indications point to the today show on the nuclear level on the echo logical level and on the economic and well, it's to be q alarm is because a, i don't know if you follow the rushing is, but there are some president and his defense minister just the other day. i characterize that comes with ration and you can not just, you know, continue regional confrontation, but a full blown war with natal and the collective west. and i don't think for them it's a natural for it. it looks like they actually believe that. i wonder if people are
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where you are and we also perceive it the same way that they are at war with russia . we're not that war with geeks, european western. she didn't. she, jenner, western peoples are not in love with russia. they don't feel like this is it is in line to say, such a think, what the ease of one with russia in and i'm pushing that it is possible that then richard way is our ruling classes in our political class. this is different. and i believe that the european peoples are for relations with russia and for avoiding all of this situation. and i want to see one scene. listen, it says the beginning of the conflict in a crane and even much before i was hearing,
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i don't of seeing about russia were subjected to a 24 hours broken down to war against russia. i don't want to say that to rush completely right already. is not, it should not be criticized, but this is a war from a gunter. like the one you a 10, did you the 1st and the 2nd one was is fighters act is spite of the fact that most european politicians and the american politicians are and public figures in dinner are they all right? and they don't want to speak out to the real opinion. in spite of the facts at too few politicians are able now to pronounce a key tico native policy. or suppose we indicate that if not a majority, a great mine,
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important to significant minority off for you to be and see just for the time i gaze these who war, i mean not against the war. wants to buy a navy, a guess a is russia, me and i was here in russia. read that ultimate in the crisis is not even the state of your brain, whether it belongs on the east or on the west, but rather a whole continent that price is a crisis all by capitalizing that process of global governance and crisis of national identities. in russia, ukraine are going to west as well as the crisis of more human values. given your interest in history, do you think humanity has ever faced such more than not? no, no, it is the 1st so dangerous cries in the history of humanity. after 945, we are in position of means of destruction, of unprecedented. we can eliminate life from us. on the same time,
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we'll have a devil of new technologies and productive forces which can be used for the profit of humans. but for the time being, they are creating more problems and they're used to very often get into so much. so i believe this issue, we said may be not only under characters and, but from the leasing illusion. 2 hour days a has exhausted it's possibilities. and with 2 event and you're doing and then you cannot be any way, no liberal after which is happily evolving to a disaster. capital is my only client his character. i mean, he's asked for example, in 1000000000, which is the,
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the actual side of capitalism was trying to conquer trish. now they just to recap, you have seen this in yugoslavia with enough show you it's west to preserve. it's warm, the domain asian. it is a tendency to become more and more destructive. there are some people. yes. i'm sorry for interrupting. you mentioned that your mic lyman for the best selling book, the blank slate, where she provides many examples of how corporate world would drive for wars in various countries. use it as an opportunity to rebuild and of propellant, south barbara, propellers development, barbara, and you know, this is the argument i have here in russia that your brain is being used, that it's sort of not a sacrificial lamb for the corporations. but is it just that ukraine?
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doesn't it go further? don't you think that it's been tied euro that the united states is up to destroy? yes, it is an indicted war guess europe because with a protection for the cleaning conflict, the booze measures. i mean for some from some of the sanctions are camping. you'll be an economy much more russian in the same time as it should be. so, for oh, for, you know, just sizing any sort of independent policy. i'm now, if i want to reason the united states wanted to destroy the relationship between the contents of the european union and russia. i don't see that the counters of you can the russian because after or rush asian part of europe and quite a large group interview be and she's asian, it. so they,
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they wanted to destroy the relationship between the west and it was a rush in. this is an important go on a sheet on clean and goes loose. such relations when a baby was sheet for europe to play an independent role, to stop b, the bustle of america and, and to the whole, the whole understanding. and they will be doing this, the american strategy, the post on war war. a strategy was to to build an obstacle, $22.00 oh, the grease out so many forming alliances, including europe, into russia and china. they have failed to in, on the little russian chinese religious. but they who succeeded to live and you
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will be an option as well as these. they said they have succeeded for now, you know, as we say in russia both days last. but i really knew that the americans are pretty straightforward in asserting that goal is reserving the economic and political had gemini. they have no one's about it. they want to preserve the privileges that had gemini brings to them, and they are ready to sanction or penalize ostracize any country that disagree with that. now the question, my question to you is whether it's only russia that just the reason such an arrangement, because to me seems to be quite unfair, not only to russia, but to many of the developing countries strong developing countries as well, and also to popular cash. oh developed wish which i understand more and more that to simply say like the political subject to which you would express. they are, are disappointment with american solutions. it'll position,
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by the way. i want to see one of the markets in news, but i would like to do that. i don't really that this is a question only of america, jim. we're leaving in year of a jim money of international financial character or assault to shooting b, which is united under each is guys all addressed to western countries. and the united states is more than as a master or these. and by the final step with the money which wants to be made to the room. and this is of course, that the project, even if it is hidden behind the democratic songs and the democratic. i don't just speaking about this sort of dr for a gemini, or omnipotence and his latest speech. and i didn't specifically stand that it's in
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russia historic tradition to stuff those who aspired to global domination in he's had remarks a few days before that. he even said that, you know, the americans tend to believe that they are in the place. i'm going to perhaps even a bomb god. and i think for him, i mean if you follow his speech as closely for him, it's a truly ontological issue. you know, to whom degree of belong. so to say to 2 quotes are given lesson, but these believe that the americans or the american elite can control the entire human collective despite all is diversity. despite all it said, divergent interest. i wonder if that's, that's not against human nature. i mean, in the greek literature, hubris was considered to be the greatest sin is that not humorous to believe that they can do something that only belongs to the domain of the gods. i think they will not be able to do it. but the problem is the effort to do
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it, they can blow up or the planet. i mean, they don't have the power to dominate the was, this is a priest with a right. and to some of the more so radical singles like blue sky, who was in our postal imperialism. and who wanted to show to dislocate somehow your country a, she's lost a window for. for this unit a wall is closed. they were not able to do it. i think they were believing that china will share a story. i use them because i saw it because i believe that the been a story would be very user from the soviet union. but unfortunately, if you wanted to get us right. so they were hoping, i believe strategically, that he will produce the same kind of transformation in china. and in the same time,
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they were hoping that russia would, would to remain in a state. and he asked you to was, i believe that she was doing yes. yes, so in the estimations they failed and now they face the dilemma either recognizes reality, which is very unpleasant for them and to try to find a solution solution of compromise or to go headed to adventures directions, which is the risk to destroy. it really destroys human life while the interest, unlike the what's going to lead to we have no choice, but we have to take a short break right now. but we will be back in just a moment. ah ah ah
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ah, what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms. race is often very dramatic. for only i'm going to use. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very critical. i'm time to sit down and talk with. mm hm. back to was a point where demetrius constantly calculus political analyst. as for my advisor to your degree prime minister address of been jo, just before the break,
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we started talking about globalization. and if we look at the countries that benefited from that great deal apart from the west, countries like china and south africa, brazil. tricky. they all want more space for themselves. they all want to develop the national identity. they all ask for more sovereignty, and i think if you listen to the speeches about leaders, they approach someone to know that some abstract and political concept as a way of resisting the united states. but as a, as a way of governing, you know, you need to make a decision very quickly to serve your people. it's very unpredictable times without waiting for uncle sam to do his calculus. and, you know, give you what you're supposed to do. isn't had gemini, regardless who is the top. i'm just that to go to the very nature of the times,
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believe in dish. and i believe that a student who we need the international cooperation because they want to know more than ever is a lot of different problems, which will be impossible to b. 2 be sold by any county or even every anyway. so it is important to combine this is for us to, to the uni boylen award to imperialism. we, there was a vision with a message which we will be attractive to or people of the world, including russian society, korean society, western europe, america, in the south of our planet, with him. because for the time being what we, she, it's more of a reaction then action,
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more negation of their west in order than proposal of a new order. i mean, is it forces which are all righty, are defending, defending in a way democracy because it's a strange thing now that we're still seeing that they are defending democracy. they want to propagate democracy, etc. but i asked my, my air, my friend a mickey so that i can sing the factor to russia. china exist for me to blow fast to beef because otherwise this terrible force which came out of the of the unit polar moment of 991. we'll do, we'll determinate all humanity and this would be bad also for americans and shows you see because these and it would be a total for total italian resume of food for motion. so i add those
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forces in i understand that the wanted to, to defend against this unit. i find it was if of course, there are aspects which one can agree or disagree, but it don't only dispose of what is, what is lacking steve. you vision, which can you deny the nation or the war? well, it's understand this division is very simple. leave and let me know there's been so much talk about a win win game on the western side. but i think if, if me truly fair and analytical, we will see that the whole strategy of their western civilization so far has been to get resources from everywhere else. and dr. but them, with the sense of inferiority and dependence on, on the western western layer just on the western wisdom and try to penalize those
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who disagree. because what strikes me the most that is this, the belief on the part of many americans and the europeans that they will be the client belongs to them. it's up to down to decide who can participate in that. isn't that, you know, that sounds like, you know, the kind of distort here is quite dashes them in. if you look down at it, you know, deciding that nations are not supposed to participate in the global trade and in the work of the global family. but the question is that the, what you say it uses a normal it, i mean, capitalism goes by nature to question, take more and more power and more and more of the shortage and do the same time to deny those resources to, to other people, other entities so what i said that you would have to replace the system
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and it's a civilization which is still dominating a warrant. we'll have to find some other or to way to organize our economic and social relations and some other way to some other civilization. because what is happening to the magical, deepest tendency she took, the mistake, it is not to that one american president made a mistake or another mistake. they sure it's the normal tendency of the system, which is still going on system dominant in both economic denise and ideological civilization of psychological terms. so we'll have to replace it with something else. there's also no escape or the recognition that that system is failing. it's not able to govern in this scene be can damage, for example, and the response to get been damaged, which was pretty selfish and disaster is on the part of the reaches countries. and
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i think the block has been called a couple of years ago. now my question to you is, what do you think will make these people these reads recognize that they can get by with less? why do they need to strive for dominance, even when it comes to heard them sounds. i mean, as you mentioned, there wasn't societies as suffering. then there's a living, a falling to look at their rates or depression, suicide, obesity. what have you, people are living for last happier lives. and so what keeps them when, when the returns are not so great anymore? hey, listen more and more. the latest a in the united states, a majority of american young people, the will delay a citizen. most of them they have not to read any, any shows newspaper i need or any,
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they're not acquainted with that. what does he want to see with is that the understanding that the system is, has faith in the need or using the want? social is socialistic because this is making clear the position and the young people. so they don't have the memories of the soviet union of the demise of the experiences. but they don't have any political subject, a move to a device, their agenda, what they have because you understand on the other who is willing to want. it is a president of goldman sachs you said before about god in the that the americans are behaving like roach, roads blank. see, was it the head of goldman sachs, his shin to so much is said, sometimes we must do the work. oh,
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it is another one. issue there is a man who xum, who lockheed martin, who own those those institutions. do you think that these guys are e, for example of the prison will fiction. would see that i will, i will stop the new investments in fossil fuel extraction to so addresses a great market change the next day she would be in prison assassinated or in my house the they are they out of the, of the world. but in reality, they are rude to them, chose by all those corporate machines that have been created. and i can ask you here or something. i think that is very pertinent to this question because you've written a lot about the cult oh, i'm limited. individual isn't received any social, national,
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religious or ideological identity as an integral to itself. and i would add that it also sounds to people the, their rhetoric of freedom while enslaving them to all sorts of dependencies. now, carts times always bring people together and there is a tendency on the part by human humans to sort of seek safety, the community to come together when times a talk even does one of a silver linings of the current crisis. perhaps the, the re renewed sas of the common identity of the collective identity. yes, that is to do that is a force which can be used for good and for a position. for instance, this force has been used in the thirty's to collect public support for not susan, susan mean, germany, anything. if people were were believing that by voting national socialist 2,
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they were to see germany. in the same time of the russ door to show it was crazy. but still it has warped by dollars or nation can be a very positive force in a, in some cases, especially in cases that a nation is abreast entities depending it's identity. just as we, we cannot put, or nation in the same bus, it goes is, this is a phenomenon which can be used in very different and opposite ways. and you know, i remember having read it, show me it or i do who is now maybe a little bit forgotten, but they think she has written a very important books. so it, she, she, she says that more money here does this idea when the driver was for up she can't do the idea. he said that the mistake or german nazis was that it was to
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do it. it was a project to which could not succeed because nobody or humanity will not be ready to. and so she, she, she wanted to prepare for a new kind or fashion where a conglomeration of nationalism, it would be her and to want to try to pose a dictatorship on the war. i believe this is written by another 10 to believe that this is a 2 project was who was created at the handle, not unity. and we must not forget that the bulk or for, for nazi service she sent out of the opposite washer has been integrated into an american and west german services in deep states. so seeing how important to understand that these are contamination. monday, for example,
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lee crane the camera, you see him and now we see is his descendants like the as well. i'll tell you in the right sector in a crate, we have to leave it there. i really appreciate your time today and wish you peace of mind and being to you and to all of us. thank you very much for the vacation and we'll put unity to discuss with you. it was for me also very interesting and thank you for watching it again next week and well, the ah with ah ah
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ah ah, with the discovery of the new world, at the end of the 15th century, there appeared atlantic slave dre, the slave traders from european countries started building forts on the western coast of the african continent to transport the african inhabitants to america, to be forced into hard labor. until the middle of the 17th century. portugal had played the main role in this atrocious business. then great britain, france and the netherlands took the leadership for the span of 400 years of legal and illegal slave trade. about 17000000 people were forcefully shipped across the atlantic. not including those who died on the way due to unbearable living
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conditions. modern historians estimate that for each slave ship to america, there were 5 who died while captured during transportation, and cruel obliteration of rebellion. this ruthless people tre practice by the leading european countries, took away tens of millions of african lives. the organisation of united nations classifies that trans atlantic slave trade as one of the gravest human rights abuses in the history of humanity. this is the biggest act of deportation of people ever seen by mankind. ah, ah, ah, ah.

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