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size can anything be done to prevent further escalation? to discuss it, i am now joined by demetrius constance, a couple of political analysts for my adviser to the greek prime minister address on jo demetrius. it's a great pleasure and great honor for me to talk to you and i really like this opportunity to communicate. because i think we, we may not have it for a long time because russia and europe seem to be enemies yet again. and those differences seem to be truly irreconcilable. what do you think it's all heading? thank you for your invitation. thank you for the opportunity to be with you and with your i'm happy about them. i have the also for the reasons for that topic to discuss today because it is to, we are sending everything indicates that we're heading to a very important crisis. and i would want to do a, if i would say that this is
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a potential of setting even the survive of humanity in different ways and took it should be a musician. and i don't want to be too alarmist, but it all indications with him for him to, to sit there on the nuclear level, on the ecological level and on the economic i am, well, i can be que alarm is because a, i don't know if you follow the russian, but there are some president and his defense minister just the other day are characterized just because of the oppression. and you can not just, you know, continue to regional confrontation but a full blown war with natal and the collective. well, i don't think for them it's a metaphor. it looks like they actually believe that. i wonder if people where you are and we also perceive it the same way that they are at war with russia. we're not at war with geeks, european lesson. she didn't, she, jenner,
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western peoples are not in war with russia. they don't feel like this is, it is aligned to say, such a thing. what the ease of one with russia in and i'm pushing it is possible. anthem richard way is our ruling classes in our political class. this is different. and i believe that the european peoples are for relations with russia and for avoiding all of this situation. and i want to see one scene. listen, since it says the beginning of the conflict in ukraine and even much before i was hearing, i don't seem to about russia were subjected to a 24 hours broken down to war against russia. i don't want to say that to rush completely right already. is not,
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it should not be criticized, but this is a war from a gunter. like the one you case a 10, did you the 1st and the 2nd one was in spite of that is spite of the fact that most european politicians and the american politicians are and public figures in june, or are they all right. and they don't want to speak out of the real opinion is 5 to the fact to few politicians are able now to pronounce a policy. or suppose we indicate that if not a majority, a great mine important to significant minority or a, b, and c, just for a war. i mean, not against it, wants to buy a gas to use russia. many analysts here in russia believed that ultimate in the
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core of the crisis, is not even the state of your brain whether it belongs on the east or on the west, but rather a whole continent of price is a crisis all by capitalizing practice of. busy governance and crisis of national identities in russia, ukraine are going to west as well as the classes of or human values. given your interest in history, do you think humanity has ever faced such more than not? no, no, it is the 1st so dangerous cries in the history of humanity. after 945, we are in position of means of destruction of unprecedented. we can eliminate life. on the same time, we'll have a devil of new technologies and productive forces which can be used for the profit
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of humans. but for the time being they are creating more problems and they're used to very often get into so much. so i believe this issue, we said may be not only under characters and, but from the illusion. 2 hour days a has exhausted it's possibilities and with 2 events in your parking. and then you cannot to be any way, no liberal after which is happily evolving to a disaster. capital is mass. now my client is characterized. i mean, he's asked, for example, in 1000000000, which is the, the actual side of capitalism, was trying to conquer, down to dish. now they just to recap the issue. we have seen this in yugoslavia with enough show it's west to preserve
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it's war of the domain nation. it has a tendency to become more and more destructive. there are some people. yes. i'm sorry for interrupting. you mentioned that you know, mc lyman for the best selling book, the blank slate where she provides many examples of how corporate world would drive for wars in various countries. use it as an opportunity to be billed and of per pallet south for pallets development barbara, and you know, this is the argument i have here in russia that your brain is being used as a, a sacrificial lamb for the corporations. but is it just that ukraine doesn't go further? don't you think that it's been tied europe that the united states is up to destroy? yes, it is an indicted war guess europe. because with protexture for the
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cleaning conflict, the booze measures. i mean, for the sun from some of the sanctions kipling, it'll be an economy much more russian in the same time it should be so for oh, for, you know, just sizing any sort of independent policy. and now if i want to reason the united states wanted to destroy the relationship between the contents of the european union and russia, i don't see that the counters of you can the russian because after or rush asian part of europe and quite a large group interview b as you decision it. so they, they wanted to destroy the relationship between the west and it was a russian, this is an important go on a sheet on cream. and it goes lucia to relations. when
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a baby was sheet for europe to play an independent role, to stop b, the bustle of america and, and to the whole, the whole understanding and they lead to the american strategy. the post on war war strategy was to try to put an obstacle 20 all the great powers suited many forming alliances, including europe and russia and china. they have failed in on the level of russia and chinese religious, but they have succeeded to the level of you will be in rochester, donations. well, at least they have succeeded for now, you know, as we say in russia, old days love. but i really knew that the american, the straight forward in asserting about the goal is reserving,
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they can all make and political how germany they have about it. they want to present the privileges that had germany brings to them and they are ready to sanction or penalize ostracize any country that disagrees with. now the question, my question to you is whether it's all your russia, that just such an arrangement, because to me seems to be quite unfair, not only to russia, but to many of the developing countries strong developing countries as well. and don't show to the popular class c o o the developed wish, which i understand more and more than to simply the like the political subject to which you would express the disappointment with american solutions. it'll position. by the way. i want to see one of the markets in news, but i would like to do that. i don't really that this is a question only of america. jim. we're leaving in year of
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a gym or new of international financial character, or as sort of shooting 1000000000, which is united under age is guys all addressed to western countries. and the united states is more than as a master or is and by the finance of the money which wants to be made to the rule. and this is, of course, a project, even if it is hidden behind the democratic songs and to democratic. i don't judge speaking about this sort of dr for a gemini, our omnipotence, and his latest speech. and i didn't specifically stand that it's in russia's historic tradition to stop those who aspired to global domination in he's had remarks a few days before that. he even said that, you know, the americans tend to believe that they are in the place. i'm going to perhaps even
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a bomb god. and i think for him, i mean if you follow his speech as closely for him, it's a truly ontological issue. you know, to whom to graham belong. so to say to 2 quotes are given lesson, but these believe that the americans or the american elite can control the entire human collective despite all diversity. despite all it's and divergent interest. i wonder if that was, that's not against human nature. i mean, in the greek literature, hubris was considered to be the greatest sin is that not humorous to believe that they can do something that only belongs to the domain of the gods. i think they will not be able to do it. but the problem is the, in the effort to do it, they can blow up or the planet. i mean, they don't care the power to dominate the words. this is a priest with a right. and to some of the more still radical singles, like brzezinski,
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who was not postal imperialism. i wanted to show to, didn't look at some how your country is. she's lost a window for, for this unipolar world because they were not able to do it. i think they were believing that china will share a story. i use it them because i saw it because i believe that the been destroyed would be very user hooked to the soviet union. but unfortunately it evolved into counter strike. so they were hoping, i believe strategically, that they will produce the same kind of transformation in china. and in the same time, they were hoping that russia would, would to remain in a state. but anyway, it was a republic guess it wasn't doing yes. yes. so english,
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really those both estimations, they failed and now they face the dilemma either to recognize this reality, which is very unpleasant for them. and to try to find a solution of solution of compromises or to go headed to adventurous actions, which is the risk to destroy. it really destroys human life while interest, unlike the what's going to lead to be have no choice, but we have to take a short break right now. but we will be back in just a few moments. ah ah
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what was the point where demetrius constance, a call to us political analyst and form adviser to the greek prime minister and dressed up in general? just before the break we started talking about globalization. and if we look at the countries that benefited from it, that great deal apart from the west. countries like china and gas, south africa, brazil. tricky. they all want more space for themselves. they all want to develop the national identity. they all ask for more sovereignty, and i think if you listen to the speech is about leaders. they are still going to notice some abstract political concept as a way of resisting the united states. but as a, as a way of governing, you know, you need to make class mission decisions very quickly to serve your people. it's very unpredictable times without waiting for uncle sam to do his
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calculus and, you know, give you what you're supposed to do. isn't gemini, and regardless who is on top, i'm just that to go to the very nature of the times. believe in addition, i believe that we need to more a student who we need the international corporation because i want to now more than ever is facing a lot of different problems, which will be impossible to be, to be sold by any county or even anyways. so it is important to combine their assistance to, to the unit ball award to be when we say vision was a message which will and will be attractive to all people of the world, including russian society, korean society, western europe,
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america, in the south of our planet, with him, because for the time being what we, she, it's more a reaction than auction, more a negation of a weston order than proposal of a new order. i mean, is it forces which are, are i t, r defending are defending in a way democracy because this is tracing now? is it with you saying that they are defending democracy, they want to propagate democracy, etc. but my, my, my, my friend to make it so that i was seeing the foster russia china exist for me to blow faster. because otherwise, this terrible force which came out of it all the uniform moment of 99 to one. we'll
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do, we'll do domain aid, osha money in this would be but also for americans and show she because these are these or would be a total of $30.00 on resume a full time or a i understand that the want to defend against is, you know, i find it more or less positive, of course, there are aspects which one can agree or disagree, but these are totally disposed of. what is, what is lacking steam you region, which can you deny the nation or the war. 7 well, some sundays, the mission is very simple. leave and let me know there's been so much talk about a win win a game on the western side. but i think it's me, julie fair and analytical, we will see that the whole strategy of the western civilization. so far has been to
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get resources from everywhere else. and donald, but them with the sounds of in theory or is he and dependence on, on the west and western layer just on the western wisdom and try to penalize those who disagree. because what strikes me the most, i believe on the part of many americans and the europeans that they will do it belongs to them. it's up to, down to decide who can participate in that. isn't that, you know, it sounds like, you know, the kind of distort here is quite fascist. i mean, if you look down and, you know, deciding that nations, i'm not supposed to participate in the global trade and in the work of the global family. but the question is that you, yes, she use the normal capitalist. i mean, capitalism goes by nature to question, paid more and more and more and more resources and d,
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and the same time to deny those sources to, to other people apply their entities. so what i say is that you will have to replace the system and to see realisation which is still dominating their world, will have to find some other way to organize our economic and social relations and some other way to some other civilization. because what is happening, interesting, dramatically deepest tendency, she took a mistake. it is or not does that one american president made a mistake or another stroke and asia. each the norm of tendency on his system, which is still dominant system dominant in both economic denise and ideological civilization of psychological terms. so we will have to replace it with something else. but now it's also always k. but the recognition that that system is failing.
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it's not able to govern n. c. b pandemic, for example. and the response to that been damage, which was pretty selfish and disaster is on the part of reaches countries. and i think the block has been called a couple of years ago. now my question to you is, what do you think will make the people these are recognized that they can give live the last. why do they need to strive for dominance, even when it comes to heard down themselves? i mean, as you mentioned, there wasn't societies, a suffering, then there's a living, a falling, it's a look at their rates of depression, suicide, obesity. what have you, people living for last happier lives? so what keep them going? when do retrans are not so great anymore. and listen more and more the latest a in the united states,
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a majority of american young people, the will delay a. most of them, they have not to read any, any shows newspaper i need, or any, they're not. when did we got, what does he want to see with these? is that the understanding that the system is, has faith in the need or using the want? social is socialistic because this is making clear the position and the young people. so they don't have the memories of the soviet union of the price of the demise of the experiences. but they don't have any political subject, a move to a device, their agenda, what they have because you understand on the other who is willing to work. it is a president of goldman sachs you said before about goats in,
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in the american side behaving like roach, road blank see, was it the head of goldman sachs, his shin to so much is said sometimes we must do the work. oh, it is another one issue. there is a man who xum, who lockheed martin, cool or lose lose institutions. do you think that these guys are e, for example of the prison will fiction. would see that i will, i will stop the new investments in fossil fuel extraction to address is a great market change. the next day she would be in prison assassinated, or in a month house, the they are they out of the, of the world. but in reality, they are rude to them, chose by all those corporate machines that have been created.
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and i can't, can i ask you here or something? i think that is very pertinent to this question because you've written a lot about the cult oh, i'm limited. individual isn't received any social, national, religious or ideological identity as a nickel to itself. and i would add that it also sounds to people the rhetoric of freedom while enslaving them to all sorts of dependencies. now, carts times always bring people together and there is a tendency on the part that by human humans to sort of seek safety in the community to come together. when times a talk even does one of a silver linings of the current crisis. perhaps the, the re renewed sas of the common identity of the collective identity. yes, that is to do that is a force which can be used for good and for a position. for instance, this force has been used in the thirty's to collect public support for not susan,
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susan, mean, germany, anything. if people were were believing that by voting. national social is 2, they were shame, germany. and in the same time, the rust on 2 sides, it was crazy. but still each his war by dollars or nation can be a very positive force in a, in some cases, especially in cases that a nation is abreast entities depending it's identity. just as we, we cannot put, or nation in the same basket goes is, this is a phenomenon which can be used in very different and opposite ways. and, you know, i remember having read it, show me it, right. who is now maybe a little bit forgotten, but they think she has written a very important book. so it she, she,
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she says that mormon headed this idea when the driver was corruption to him to the idea. he said that the mistake or german nazis was it that it was to turn it into. it was a project to which could not succeed because nobody or humanity will not be ready to. and so he, he, he, he wanted to prepare for a new kind of process where a conglomeration of nationalism a would be, or, and to will to try to pose a dictatorship on the want. i believe this is shaded by another tend to believe that this is a to project was who was created to handle the nazi regime. and we must not forget that the bulk or for, for not you service she sent a lot of the operate washer has been integrated into an
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american and west german services in deep states. so seeing how important to understand these are contamination. monday, for example, he knew crane the camera, you see him and now we see his descendants like the as well. i'll tell you that i'd sector in a crate. we have to leave it there. i really appreciate your time today and wish you peace of mind and being to you and to all of us. thank you very much for the decision and we'll put unity to discuss with you. it was for me also very interesting and thank you for watching hope you're again next week on well the fire ah
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ah a . so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy foundation. let it be an arms race is on very dramatic development. only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very difficult time time to sit down and talk with
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anybody to look at that was just about it. what ship when you much pretty all the way with global scope, with the, with the, with the, with the list to get my service move with
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a ah intensify thing. under inception gunfire as russian troops advance and one of the most significant battle grounds of the ukraine conflict of germany are against sending military 8 the key. yeah, it's according to a recent poll, as many say those supplies will only prolong the conflict. they try to achieve peace by supplying war machines. and to me, that's a perverted logic. i don't want the government to simply ignore the people. they should also take the opinion of the people into account from the program, the u. s. strength.

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