tv Worlds Apart RT January 10, 2023 9:30pm-10:01pm EST
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already thousands of that on both sides. can anything be done to prevent further escalation to discuss it. i'm now joined by demetrius constance, a couple of political analyst. i'm for my advisor to a degree prime minister address on jo demetrius. it's a great pleasure, radon for me to talk to you and i really like this opportunity to communicate. because i think we, we may not have it for a long time because russia and europe seem to be enemies yet again. and those differences seem to be truly irreconcilable. what do you think it's all heading? thank you for your invitation. thank you for trinity to be with you and with your i'm happy, but i'm happy on shore for the reasons for that topic to discuss today because it is to, we are sending everything indicates that we're heading to a very important crisis. and i would want to do a,
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if i would say that this is a potential asserting even the survival of humanity in different ways and took it should be a musician. and i don't want to be too alarmist, but it all indications have pointed to the today show on the nuclear level, on the ecological level and on the economic and well, it's to be q alarm is because a, i don't know if you follow the rushing is but there are some president and his defense minister just the other day i characterize that comes with ration and you can not just, you know, continue regional confrontation, but a full blown war may tell and be collected. well, i don't think for them it's a matter for it. it looks like they actually believe that. i wonder if people where you are and we also perceive it the same way that they are at war with russia. we're not at war with geeks, european lesson. she didn't, she, jenner,
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western people are not the one who is russia. they don't feel like this is, it is aligned to say, such a think. what the ease of one with russia in and i'm pushing it is possible. and which way is our ruling class in our political class? this is different. and i believe that the european peoples are for relations with last year for, for avoiding on this situation. and i want to see one scene. listen, as she sees the beginning of the conflict in a crane and even much before hearing a lot of things about russia were subjected to it. 24 hours down there, war against russia. i don't want to shave. josh is completely right or is not it
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. it should not be good size, but the, this is a war propaganda like the one europe, s a b in asia, said the during the 1st in the 2nd world wars. in spite of that, in spite of the fact that most european politicians shouldn't american politicians are and public figures she didn't arise. and they don't want to speak out to the real opinion. in spite of the facts or to ship leticia are able now to pronounce a kiko needs a policy or her pulse. we indicate that if not a majority, a great might be an important significant minority off for you to be on the sheet to just sort of champ against this war. i mean, not against the war, runs by naval against russia. many i was here in russia believe
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ultimately the core of this crisis is not even the state of your brain whether it belongs on the east or on the west, but rather a whole conference of price is a crisis of capitalism and practice of globe. busy governance and crushes of national identities in rushing your brain and in the west as well as the crisis of war, human values, given your interest and history, do you think humanity has ever placed such a board in north? no, no. it is the 1st or so dangerous cries in the history of humanity. after 945, we are in position of means of destruction, of unprecedented. we can eliminate life from us on the same time, we'll have a devil of your technology and productive forces which can be used for the profit
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of humans. but for the time being, they are creating more problems and they're used to very often get into so much. so i believe is huge issue. we said may be not only characters and but from the leasing to our days a has exhausted it's possibilities and we send it to event and you are doing. and then you cannot be any way, no liberal calculation, which is happily evolving to a disaster. capitalism, us know me, clients this is characterized. i mean, he's asked for example in 1000000000, which is the side of capitalism. was trying to conquer, down to dish. now they just to recap the issue. we have seen the issue, yugoslavia with enough show it's west
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to preserve it's world of domination. it has a tendency to become more and more destructive. there are some people. yes. i'm sorry for interrupting. you mentioned that your mac, lyman, for the best selling book decline place, where she provides many examples of how corporate world would drive for wars in various countries. use it as an opportunity to be billed and of per pallet south, perfect propeller development permit. and, you know, this is benjamin down here in russia that your brain is being used that it's sort of that a sacrificial lamb for the corporations. but it just that ukraine doesn't go further, don't you think that it's being tired? europe that the united states is up to destroy. yes, it is an indicted war against europe because with
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a protection for the cleaning conflict, the booze measures, i mean for some from some of the sanctions are camping. you'll be an economy much more than the rest of them in the same time it should be so for oh, for, you know, just sizing any sort of independent policy. i'm now, if i want to reason the united states wanted to destroy the relationship between the counselors of the european union and russia. i don't see that the countess of you can the russian because after or rush asian part of europe and quite a large group interview be and she was asian. so they, they wanted to destroy the relationship between the west and it was a russian, this is an important go on
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a sheet on crane. and it goes like such a relationship. when a baby was sheet for europe to play an independent role, to stop b, the bustle of america and, and to the whole, the whole understanding. and they really didn't issue the american strategy. the post on war war strategy was to, to build an obstacle. 22. 0, the great city. many forming alliances, including europe, into russia and china. they have failed to in, on the little russian chinese, religious. but if you succeed in the living, you will be in the nation. well, at least they said they have succeeded for now, you know, as we say in russia, hope does last. but i really knew that the americans are pretty straightforward in
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asserting that goal is reserving the economic and political had gemini. they have no one's about it. they want to preserve the privileges that had gemini brings to them, and they are ready to sanction or penalize ostracize any country that disagrees with that. now the question, my question to you is whether it's only russia that you think reason such an arrangement, because to me seems to be quite unfair, not only to russia, but to many of the developing countries strong developing countries as well. and don't show too popular glass over there looked wish which i understand more and more than to shipley, the like the political subject to which you would express. they are are disappointment with american solutions. they will position by the way. i want to see one of the markets in news, but i would like to do that. i don't really that this is
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a question only of america, jim. we're leaving in year of a jim, money of international financial character or a sort of shooting $1000000000.00, which is united under each is guys all addressed to western countries. and the united states is more into than and then muster, or he's, and by or the finance of the money which wants to be made to the room. and this is, of course, it is a project to, even if it is hidden behind a democratic scrogginson to democratic. i don't judge speaking about this sort of dr for a gemini, or omnipotence and his latest speech. and i didn't, and specifically said that it's in russia's historic tradition to stop those who aspired to global domination in he's had remarks a few days before that. he even said that, you know,
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the americans tend to believe that they are in the place of going to perhaps even a bomb god. and i think for him, i mean if you following his speech as closely for him, it's a truly ontological issue. you know, to whom degree of belong, so to say to, to quote, some are given lesson, but these believe that the americans or the american elite can control the entire human collective despite all diversity. despite all it said, divergent interest. i wonder if that was, that's not against human nature. i mean, in the greek literature, hubris was considered to be the greatest sin. is that not humorous to believe that they can do something that only belongs to the domain of the gods. i think they will not be able to do it, but the problem is the effort to do it. they can blow up or the planet. i mean, they don't care the power to dominate the words. this is a priest with a right and to some of the more still radical singles,
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like blue sky was an apple store or, or imperialism. i wanted to show to digital kate somehow your country a, she's a window for. for this unit, a wall is closed. they were not able to do it. i think they were believing that china will share a story. i use them because i saw it because i believe that the better story would be very user from the soviet union. but unfortunately halting to cut the strike. so they were hoping, i believe certain, that he will produce the same kind of transformation in china. and in the same time, they were hoping that russia would, would to remain in a state. but i mean, it was, i believe it was a few years. so in the summation they failed,
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and now they face the dilemma either to recognize this reality, which is very unpleasant for them and to try to find a solution solution of compromise or to go headed to adventures day actions, which is the risk to destroy it really destroys human life while the interest, unlike the what's going to lead to be have no choice, but we have to take a short break right now, but we will be back in just a moment. ah, for for is your media a reflection of reality in
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ah, what was the point where demetrius constance, a couple of political analysts and form advisor to the greek prime minister and dress up in general. just before the break, we started talking about globalization and if we look at the countries that benefited from it, that great deal apart from the west. countries like china and gas, south africa, brazil. tricky. they all want more space for themselves. they all want to develop the national identity, they all ask for more sovereignty. and i think if you listen to the speeches of that leaders, they approach someone to know that some abstract political concept as a way of resisting the united states. but as a, as a way of governing, you know,
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you need to make class mission decisions very quickly to serve your people. it's very unpredictable times without waiting for uncle sam to do his calculus and, you know, give you what you're supposed to do. isn't had gemini, and regardless who is on top, i'm just that to go to the very nature of the times. believe in lucian. i believe that we need to more a student who we need the international corporation because i want to know more than ever is facing a lot of different problems, which will be impossible to be, to be sold by any county or even any region. so it is important to combine their assistance to, to the union boylen award to be when we say vizier with
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a message which will and will it be attractive to all people of the world, including russian society, korean society, western europe, america, in the south of our planet with him because for the time being what we, she, it's more a reaction than auction. more a negation of a weston order than proposal of a new order. i mean, is it forces which are rightly are defending and defending in a way democracy because this is strange. seeing now that we're still seeing that they are defending democracy, they want to propagate democracy, etc. but my, my, my, my friend to make it so that i can sing it faster to russia. china exist
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for me to blow faster. because otherwise, this terrible force which came out of it or the unipolar moment of 9 to 9 to one. we'll do, we'll do domain 80, shit. money in this would be but also for americans and show c. c, because these are these, or would be a total, a resume, a full time or a i understand that the want to defend against is, you know, i find it was positive. of course, there are aspects which one can agree or disagree. but these are totally disposed of what is, what is lacking steam, you region, which can unite the nation or the war. well, it's a sunday sunday. the mission is very simple. leave and let me know there's been so much talk about a win win a game on the western side. but i think it's me,
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julie fair and analytical, we will see that the whole strategy of the western civilization so far has been to get resources from everywhere else. and donald, but them with the sounds of in theory or is he and dependence on, on the western western layer, just on the western wisdom and try to penalize those who disagree. because what strikes me the most, i believe on the part of many americans and the europeans that they will, the clinic belongs to them. it's up to down to decide who can participate in that. isn't that, you know, it sounds like, you know, the kind of the story here is quite fascist. i mean, if you look down at it, you know, deciding that's it, nations, i'm not supposed to participate in the global trade. and in the work of the global family. but the question is that because you, you shake it,
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you see the normal a capitalist. i mean, capitalism goes by nature to caution paid more and more power and more and more resources and d, and the same time to deny those resources to, to other people apply their entities. so what i say that you will have to replace the system and to see realisation which is still dominating their world will have to find some other way to organize our economic and social relations and some other way to and some other civilization. because what is happening interesting to magical, deepest tendency, she'd something mistake it is or not, does that one american president made a mistake or another in this token asia, each the norm of tendency on his system, which is still dominant system dominant in both economic,
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dennis and ideological civilization of shakes, dams, so we will have to to replace it with something else. but there's also always k. but the recognition that that system is failing. it's not able to govern n. c, indeed damaged for example, and the response to the been damage, which was pretty selfish and disaster is on the part of reaches countries. and i think the blog has been called a couple of years ago. now my question to you is, what do you think will make the people these are we recognize that they can give via the last, why do they need to strive? what dominance, even when it comes to heard them themselves. i mean, as you mentioned, there wasn't societies of suffering. then there's a living, a falling, it's a look at their rates of depression, suicide, obesity. what have you, people living for the last happier lives? so what keep them going? when do retrans are not so great anymore?
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and listen more and more later on in the united states, a majority of american young people, the will be like a socialist. most of them, they have not to read any socialist newspaper. i need book or any. they're not acquainted with that. what does he want to see with this? is that the understanding that the system is, has faith in the need or using the want social is socialist. because this is making clear, the opposition and the young people. so they don't have the memories of the soviet union or the demise of the unit in the business. but they don't have any political subject, a move to a device, their agenda,
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what they have because you understand on the other who is willing to want. it is a president of goldman sachs you said before about goats in is that americans are behaving like roach, roads blank. see, was it the head of goldman sachs? his shin to show much is said sometimes we must do the work. oh, it is another one you say, the man who exon, who lockheed martin, who own those those institutions. do you think that these guys are e, for example of the prison will fiction won't see that i will. i will stop the new investments in forcing fuel extraction. so address is a gray market change. the next day she would be in prison assassinated or in a month house, the they are they out of the, of the world. but in reality,
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they moved to them shows by, by all those corporate machines that have been created. i can ask you here or something. i think that is very pertinent to this question because you've written a lot about the count of i'm limited individual isn't received any social, national, religious or ideological identity as a nickel to itself. and i would add that it also sounds to people the rhetoric of freedom while enslaving them to all sorts of dependencies. now, carts times always bring people together and there is a tendency on the part that by human humans to sort of seek safety in the community to come together when times a talk. isn't that one of a silver linings of the current crisis? perhaps the, the re renewed sas all of the common identity of the collective identity. yes, that is to do that is a force which can be used for good and for
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a position. for instance, this force has been used in the thirty's to collect the bible of support for naturism and susan, mean germany, anything. if people are aware we're believing that by voting national social is 2, they will see in germany in the same time of the roster. socialist society, it was crazy, but still it's his work to my daughter. so now she can be a very positive force in a, in some cases, especially in cases that the nation is abreast entities depending it's identity just as we cannot or nation in the same bus get to be goes in. this is a phenomenon which can be used in very different and opposite ways. and you know,
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i remember having grad is show me it or i do who is maybe a little bit forgotten, but they think she has written a very important so it, she, she, she says that more my head is this idea when the driver was for up she can't do the idea. he said that the mistake or german nazis was that it was to do it. it was a project to which could not succeed because nobody or humanity will not be ready to. and so she, she, she wanted to prepare for a new kind of process where a conglomeration of nationalism, it would be her and to want to try to pose a dictatorship on the want. i believe this, she said it by another 10 to believe that this is a to project was who was created to handle the nazi regime. and we must not
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forget that the bulk or for, for nazi service she sent out of the operate washer has been integrated into an american and west german services in deep states. so seeing how important to understand there is a continuation on there. for example, he knew crane they had use him, and now we see his descendants. i tell you, in that sector in a crate, we have to leave it there. i really appreciate your time today and wish you peace of mind and being to you and to all of us. thank you very much for the decision and we'll put unity to discuss with you. it was for me also really interesting and thank you for watching hope you're again next week on well, the fire ah ah
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ah, need to come to the russian state total narrative. i've stayed as i'm phone and ignore santini div asking him then i'll send send up a group in the 55 with. okay, so mine is 2000 speedy, one else with will ban in the european union. the kremlin media machine, the state on to russia today, and c,
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r t spoke neck, given our video agency, roughly all band to on youtube. and with whom is the aggressor today i'm authorized to disco, strong sanctions. today russia is the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. a number that's constantly growing, but i figure which of the probably the list of course renewed as you speak on the bill in your senior mostly mind the we're, we're sheila, we're banding all in ports of russian oil and gas. new g i suffering of high paid that been happening. i know they plenty,
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of course with the literature were pretty good regarding joe biden and imposing these sanctions on russia has destroyed the american economy. so there's your boomerang self. ah sure. well should, should issue was quoted for the shipper flu system of the year before although i should find out the shows on did you come with us.
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