ah ah ah, this house right behind me was shelled by a 155 millimeter shell supply to the gradient army. boy. they told us if, if it's the aftermath of a package and they don't get script public where at least 2 civilians were killed and full with rhetoric of quote, open doors is not enough. the words from vladimir zelinski, as he insists ukraine, should be a candidate for the e. u. so his country and his soldiers would be motivated with china's foreign minister says no world power should force african countries to pick the continent needs. solidarity is not confrontation. you made those comments during a 5 nation, 2 of the african. com,

with no way in the evening. i was here in moscow and a pleasure to have your company for this program went out. so the latest attacks on 2 cities and they've gone yet, script public have left, 2 civilians killed and 4 more injured. a correspondent is romance caused to ref, visiting the sites with these details. ukranian nationalists continued chaotic and indiscriminate artillery shelling against civilian areas in girl of god and in don't ask this house right behind me was shelled by a 155 millimeter shell. surprise you, lee ukrainian army boy, nato countries. a man 68 year old vladimir was wounded as the result, he was taking a look to the hospital almost instantly. he was on the operating table for 5 hours as dancers were fighting for his life. unfortunately, he died right there. should have no trouble. new supposed

a civilian wounded in gore laska was admitted to our hospital yesterday. he had shrapnel wounds in his abdomen as well as potentially fatal damage to his internal organs. the operation was performed very precisely. unfortunately, the wounds were too severe. the patient lost his life, though is not far from the front line. this area is purely a residential. at least 5 houses. 5 private houses had been destroyed by ukrainian artillery shelling on wednesday as result. one person was killed and 2 people were wounded here in girl of cologne. oh, should i put it out of when there was shelling? yesterday i was at home. i heard the explosions and immediately hid my children. it was terrifying. william close to the front line and that's why we're getting a hit says written, this is a fresh one. it's not rusty, probably an artillery shell. while we were filming the consequences of ukrainian artillery shelling in girl of co receive news that another attack took place in the

next call. now we have returned and found out that another civilian was killed right here at this spot. you can still see the blood trace is now for people here were injured as the result of the attack and abs ulcers are fighting to save their lives full should be through smoke and dust everywhere we couldn't see any. we went back to the bomb shelter to hide, we all went down into the shelter and were sitting there until everything calmed down. almost ukrainian nationalists continued, sorry, a thing civilians and civilian areas here in the and escrow public right now. we are in a major transportations apartments for one of the supermarket said change. this is where they fixed their trucks and this is where they killed their latest victim. one person killed 4 injured. now, these are the kinds of a shelf fragments that were finding on the spot according to the

local officials. according to the invest the investigative committee, the shelf belonged to nato, supplied weapons to ukraine. well, another day, another 2 victims of ukrainian artillery, shelling rum on call for. i've already done that screw public will. i mean time the ukranian president vladimir zalinski has said the west is not doing enough to support he. ebs war efforts is calling on e e, calling for i to say, e, you kind of a member status it with. he says it would basically give a boost to that of the ukrainian people have a lesson to would meal to day. mere support for ukraine from natal callers support in the form of rhetoric about open doors is not enough. ukraine. it is not enough to motivate our state, we speaking in more detail or more specifically. it is not enough to motivate our soldiers. we expect something more than just open doors. you candidacy would

motivate our people? i, let's take this lie, her heart international and crossing over to our contributor rachel marston. hey, rachel, great to see you. what, what, what would e, you can remember? status actually mean for the ukrainian people and i guess i would ask, is it a top concern for ukrainians these days amid the ongoing conflict? i did anyone actually asked the ukrainians, fighting whether they're doing it to join the european union or would that be news to the fellows actually doing the heavy lifting on the front lines. whatever happened to the idea of fighting until victory against russia? is that not motivating enough? apparently not. zalinski said last summer that ukraine would fight quote until the end. and now the ukranian president sounds more like a personal training client who's beer belly isn't budging. and who's now demanding that his coach find some incentives to keep getting him to show up and put in the blood and sweat while the coach keeps caching in on the struggle. in this

particular case, that coach would be nato. and the incentive that zalinski now seems to be demanding is european union candidacy. so zalinski has suggested before that, that's exactly what he wants. he kept saying that ukraine was defending european values. a sentiment echoed repeatedly by the european union's leadership in the same way, patronizing way that you might kind of play kate, a child who just learned to write his name and kind of apply them half, you know, like half heartedly. not sure what exactly these european values are, quite frankly, no one ever specifies press censorship and rapidly eroding freedoms. maybe as former u. s. secretaries of state hillary clinton said last month, u. s. a to ukraine is a quote, really good investment for the united states. they are not asking us to be there to

fight their war. they're fighting it themselves. yeah. and the big beneficiary of their fight is the u. s. which gets to tie up russia while breaking up russian european trade to the ultimate benefit of the u. s. apparently, ukraine is now realizing that it's getting used as a pawn and all of this and frustrations of ukrainian officials are becoming more apparent. the most important thing for us is to continue to receive the military assistance that we require because situations such as that in solid daughter could have been avoided. you know, if we would receive those tanks. and since we are fighting the freedom war i, we are fighting not just for some cities and villages in the grant. we are fighting for calm on shed valleys, global name. we're currently carrying out nato's mission. they aren't shedding their blood, we're shooting ours. that's why we're using their weapons. what does it says like ukraine is getting a little bit better and tired of paying

a high price of doing the west dirty work against russia, the ukrainian ambassador to the you cave i deem for stay. po also said earlier this month, quote, we're losing people left and right. we're not advertising. how many of those last are military or civilians? but you can imagine that numbers are huge, indigestible and ukrainian cells are fighting in sola dar said that quote in sold are no one counts the dead. no one will tell you how many dead and wounded there are. because no one knows for sure, not a single person. so a heavy tool for ukraine, which opened its doors to the u. s. to become an outpost for the state department. then for the defense department before putting the lives of its citizens right on the front line at all, to fight for what exactly for you membership as a lensky is now suggesting. isn't there a form for that? it's kind of like applying for job by jumping off a bridge, 90 contributor rachel marston. thank you. we'll talk about an awful lot of

handshake and going on. i was china's new foreign minister begins his time with a 5 nation to a of africa. he's insisting that no well power should force african countries to pick one side or another. he's basically singling out america right there. instead, he said that africa should be a place for promoting economic development. siegel. josh, would african needs, the solidarity, and co operation, not confrontation. no country, no people have the right to force african countries and their people to take sides . africa should be a platform for international cooperation, not an arena for competition between major countries. africa refuses to be seen as an arena for competing influence. we're open to cooperation and partnerships with everyone as long as their respect our principles, our priorities now interests. the partnership we have with china is built on this principles. while the chinese top diplomat has stopped far than ethiopia,

next is off to gap on angola, benign and egypt is ultimately highlighting the importance of the partnership between beijing and the entire continent. and our africa correspondent, catabolic tattler has more on the high level, meet and greet. well, as you know, he is a brand new foreign minister of china. and he follows in a long line of traditions for chinese foreign ministers, especially with very with their relationship to the african continent. now this is mister keane's 1st visit and it's an opportunity for him to, to outlay some of china's plans and also strengthen economic ties with the 5 african countries that he will be visiting. but of course, he kicks off the trip if you will, by, by 1st please begin to the chairperson of the african union. mr. mohammed 14 mohammed, he is particularly looking to strengthen africa's position,

especially among the calls that have been made for african union to be included as a permanent member of the g 20 group of nations. and of course, this is an opportunity to speak about other modalities with regards to africa's place in international fora, such as the united nations and the world trade organization. but of course, the vivid is really more than just a symbolic visit if you will. there's an opportunity for china to engage with the said countries, namely, if your piano has played a very important role there, with regards to bringing about peace, a use of their soft power if you will. and if your p are following the, the outbreak of conflict in war in that, in that country will be looking for chinese investment to farrah, solidify and rebuilds the country. and africa wide really has been, has been experiencing a credit crunch. following the coven 19 pandemic. and mr. king has been really at

the ian at length to say that china will and remains a very important partner, is very much trying to counter the american narrative that says that china is using what they call a palace. diplomacy where they using investments and debt to accept african countries. and it's the, it's very cynical because we know that african countries owe more debt to, to private fund managers, to private institutions, all of which come from the west. and that is the large denominated, foreign currency that, that africa still struggles with china is reading much trying to, to say that the united states should not be looking at china as an enemy on the continent. and it should not be using the african continent as a platform for competition, but rather development in the name of africans and african states. and that's how they see their relationship. these of the, the americans who are very conditional and come to the continent with expectations

before they even put down any kind of traumas. and while the cooperation between china and african nations is certainly on the rise, america says that cooperation is d, stabilizing the continent. but u. s. defense, secretary, may thy claim, last month at a summit of african leaders in washington. we're witnessing the proxy expanded footprint. a on, on a continent on a daily basis. and that creates problems that will be eventually stabilizing if they're not already. or we say russia continuing to peddle cheap weapons, employing mercenaries across the continent. and so the combination of those activities by those 2 countries, i think i've been watching. and certainly i think their influence again, can be the stabilize according to our chinese, up as expert andrew long. he says that his country's approach to africa is more

perhaps, um, holistic than that of various western professional partners. tanya's engagement with africa is very different. ah, from the west, tony looks at the relationship in a holistic way. he emphasis is always been on building an infrastructure notice capacity building for development. it will help the these countries to develop. and also of course, it would force crucial ties between china and africa. their so called democracy as defined by the united states is only a facade, the channel to a certain americans influence to impose and the americans more go on on other countries. regardless of the m, the stages of development. the internal and political situation are the geography and, and so on, so forth. the african countries and other at developing countries. they are more in debt and to weston, a commercial angus multiple times more than china. thomas become much more careful

and where it at price and allow in some sort of that relief, but also taking into account all the stakeholders interest. but overall, these loans are idea, as i say, to was building infrastructure within the country and connecting these countries to all the neighboring countries. it would bring a law of economy, a progress i called upon the here on the russian capital, the local branch of isis, enough canister on its claim responsibility for the latest deadly attack and cobble which, according to initial reports, left more than 20 people dead. and many others injured or should warn you, you may find the following. images disturbing is i'll make state horizontal province said it carried out the attack in a statement on a telegram news channel, claiming about, hey matthew adams see could detonated a bomb near the afghan foreign ministry. the taliban government did not immediately

respond to the claims only confirming that 5 civilians were killed. it was the 2nd major attack and cobbled since the beginning of the year. well, let's learn more. of course live to show eva. not our fees are joined, listed research on afghanistan. joining us live from london, a very warm welcome to you. thank you for coming on the program. what, what do you make of this? the so called local, offshoot of isis, known as, as well, i'm excited on problems is claiming responsibility for the latest attack in cobble . how do you read it from your side? thank you very much. was this is the next talk. all state dice for us on a gun. this is soon said leg ortiz a few days and, and i'm on 22 months. hold on. thanks. larry. laura daniels are in call. we'll call and another probably got some

unfortunately yesterday while the government stuff on the foreign ministry of talk about this stuff that they were all from your work. they wanted to come out from the ministry in the gate of the ministry islamic expense for us on proven that carried out the side of town with that so tom could make, oh what of course. as a result of. busy we have a lot of because you want to tease according to the tyler one, the spokesperson for the call, the police chief. they are claiming of 5 people have been killed and some more wounded. but according to our research that we spoke with the doctors with the hospitals, with different contacts, where the people that unfortunately more than 15 of dams or staff or, or, or staff members of the foreign minister of the 6 off gives what i've got a diploma that they were working for a total of those 40 minutes. they were killed and 26 others. one did. it was

a very deadly attack. we. we had that we had a huge casualties or maybe maybe you can, you can help me. and our view is here at all to national understand this a bit more clearly, according to washington, after 20 years of being enough dentist on fighting the so called war on terror, washington says it was a success. that mission was a success that, that terrorism has been eliminated. perhaps i was wrong. it was another fact said leave. it was a response to believe from a gun to stone. people have gone to some are really very angry on the stage of america that did play a very dirty game, but i've gone to some people left have gone people after 20 years alone without, without, without, without buying off terrorist got this done. well,

i've got to start is not safe. i've got this one is more because more dangerous. offered a tolerable, took over the control, the control of a gun. more terrorist groups become sort, i'm sorry. sure. i do apologize. i'm so sorry. i do apologize for jumping in, so give me please, but, but your, you're telling me you're telling me that i'm gonna start off to the 20 year occupation and fight against tara your telling me. and our view is that i've dentist on is now a more dangerous place. of course, it's more dangerous bliss. i've got some fun to the tourist, a group, the tourist group that brought it or collected money, other terrorist for interest groups to have got we have, i am us summit move with the bookstore right now enough that they are becoming a big powerful we have unsolved light projects on the go to becoming more powerful and bigger. we have dice for us on get all the money central majority of the

terrace group that they are actively got to start becoming more powerful. and this is just a sign that dies with disputing of control. ation, which i then i am you start with the movement of i'm sorry, projects on monday, monday either some sort of issues together. we'll talk about they will become a big problem and they will become a big challenge for some term issues. and future doesn't for sure. for sure. i've got a solid safe. i've got to started a fool of terrorist groups at the training center, a lot of a lot of money to raise money groups training centers built up for for the i am you for, for, for, for light started. why you're planning to make a military base. is there any center not going to sound a lot better, some because a lot, a lot of those and we have

a long border from history and countries. the plan is to move their terrorist activities from i've got to start to start on the country. this is the big challenge is a, it's a dangerous, if the neighboring countries, f, russia, if some from asian country, if other mother will not pick a decision right now again, tomorrow, these do will not be our doors, not the center nation. those not the russian doors, not the other 28 bucks on doors. we are, we are, will witness that blood is happening in some right now from the time that they talk about what the control of a gun, the p. p that which we should fighting. has there been a bucks from government become more powerful? i've got more moral and it's coming up on this. i've been told on the portal p p t to 5. i guess it's, this is something that regional leaders have talked about, show you. this is something that the russian president vladimir putin has express

concern about since the hasty withdrawal from america from i've gotten us on tuesday and said we're worried about militants or insurgency groups spreading north over the borders or even a fees either a journalist and research or on afghanistan, joining us live from london. so good to have you on the program. thank you for your time today. thank you very much. and so good to have you with us for the show as well. and as a whistleblower edward snowden has posted his opinion on joe biden, having a closet stuffed with classified government documents, stating that others found with far less already sitting behind boss worth noting that the president seems to have a scandal with more classified documents than many whistleblowers for comparison reality winner was sentenced to 5 years for just one document. meanwhile, biden trump clinton portrays these guys have dozens, hundreds,

no jail. well i see that rachel blevins had joining us live in a studio. you're fresh back from america over a new year break. so it's great to have you back here at the headquarters most judy rachel, welcome back to moscow. had to be back to story, of course, fresh on the mind of many, particularly you haven't come back from america. snowden is making an interesting point here, essentially, since so many whistleblowers, including snowden, of course himself, were targeted for present possessing classified documents. apparently they, i guess, had even less, perhaps, somewhat jo, bottom may have had, but bring us up to speed. what, what is the latest in this story? rachel, when we still don't even know just how many classified documents biden had, because we're now hearing that a 2nd back was found at a different location. so a lot of questions involving that and just what it is made up, but not nearly much has been said from the department of justice. we haven't heard much of from them at all. and that's incredibly notable when looking at the fact that when it comes to individuals, we're possessing classified documents,

especially whistleblowers and publishers. the u. s. government has a tendency to target them even using unprecedented measures. we've seen this in cases such as chelsea manning, juliana staunch and even edward snowden himself. now at the same time, the parallel is also being drawn to former president trump noting that the f b. i went as far to read his moral lago estate when he had classified documents, and of course at the time, joe biden was very outspoken in his criticism of trump take listen to what he had to say that when you saw the photograph of the top secret documents laid out on the floor of mar logo. what did you think to yourself, looking at that image? how that could possibly happen? how one any one could be that irresponsible? and i thought what data was in there that may compromise sources and methods. by that, i mean names of people help there's a center and chest are totally irresponsible. however,

now the white house is coming out in their kind of downs, playing the situation insisting that biden says he did not know that the cost of documents were in his possession and that as soon as his team found, then they were quickly turned over to the national archives, so there wasn't quite that back and forth, but we saw a bare with former president trump. well, this is just cigarettes. i mean, you know, ok. so when it turned out with mark mar, logo, as you said, hit his beautiful page complex on in florida, trump complex that they found all these documents, the media went, but listed absolutely, mentor over trump, having these classified documents, it happens to joe biden, and then be like, oh well, he just for god read what you, what do we know so far about what was in the documents and basically how, what they discovered while they continue here, right. the media has continued to down play that, insisting that there were less than a dozen documents. they say that there were about 10 documents. and that's incredibly notable because what we know so far is that these documents,

some of them were marked as top secret, which is the highest level of classified possible. and yet the media coverage has just kinda shrugged it off. we've heard that they include us intelligence on ukraine or ron and the u. k. what that is made up of we don't know yet, and we especially don't know about this latest 2nd batch and what that could involve. and of course, where that was found. what about, i mean, certainly when it comes to the public and the people we're all talking about is the media is trying to shove quite a lot of it under the carpet, but tell us about reaction so far. well, republicans are definitely talking about this. that is no surprise and they're treating this is really just the latest scandal involving the binding administration. they are promising an investigation, and there are some republican lawmakers who have said that this is ironic, especially given the fact that bite and was so outspoken when it came to trump. and also when it came to other whistleblowers, when he was the vice president under former president obama. and we've also heard from fox news tucker carlson,

and he chimed in. here's what he had to say. so the media's job, its only job really is to push back against attitudes like that and to seek the truth, reporters of the people who are paid, who for a living, find out what your government is doing and then tell you about it. so democracy can continue, but there are very few of those left. jolena sanchez in prison for his efforts, ed snowden lives in exile. and the news organizations that remain are so thoroughly controlled by government agencies. that even the suggestion of more public transparency drives them to hysteria. now we mentioned that biden himself is down playing this insisting he had no idea that he had classified documents. and at the same time, some other democrats seem to be following his lead. that includes former house speaker, nancy pelosi, who apparently didn't have much to say at all. take a listen. i was surprised to learn there were any government records that were taken there to that office. do you have any comment on the president fight in

keeping classified documents? the now the timing here is also notable, given the fact that biden's team apparently found this 1st batch of classified documents less than a week before the mid term elections. but of course we're just now hearing about it . so it appears to be yet another bite and related scandal near a major election that the media is once again downplaying. you know, you wonder why people call it the complicit media. so a week before the mid thumbs. this discovery was made. and again, it was just brushed under the rug. do you see rachel? i mean, this is it, you know, i'm not gonna sit here and talk about hunter biden's laptop. i'm not gonna sit here talking about him, filming himself smoking, crack cocaine, having sex with prostitutes, watching pool, and all this kind. i'm not going to talk about that i want. i want to talk about that. let's not talk about john kerry or nancy pelosi there kids having dealings with ukrainian company, but it isn't much like 100 biden as well. i mean, you know, the sheer volume of scandal, if any of these scandals had happened under trump,

he would have been kicked out a lot sooner. so you just see this kind of double stand is going back and forth. the aussies. rachel blevins, always good to see you. thank you. thank you. and thanks for joining us to this program here. lie from moscow and it's a national 6 30 pm. now we will be back very soon. the for we came here to new, ze no garage to speak to hockey. legend, he got a lot of you know, what if i told you talk to was more than just a sport. maybe even an art for deeply philosophical larry on the came, is the professor and we came to ask them why they want everything, the hockey best for their game is incredible. it's all about creativity. so again, should be for everybody later. so as the patient want to be

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