is an a c people sheer, right? because as men we talk about being strong unami, everybody wants to be strong man, but you know, we might be physically strong, but you know, are we emotionally weak mustang are incarcerated here. and her alarm will. my biggest fear was and he goes back into a d, had on the board about memory minor, my son gray francis charles policy. and he said, your son used to say he was, he could come to prison just so he can be with you. in that moment i said, this is what you've left your child in this woman and your family to, to do. they say, you said if you are thinking you is dead, you never too old to find that peace,

which are children which yourself. mm hm. this prison is me into more like always call a blank canvas and a beautiful landscape. mm. i think that there are a lot of things that we can accomplish here. if you give an opportunity. mm hm. ah, everybody's watching everything they do. everywhere they go everywhere they gather . they have to really, really, really be above board to make this happen. they have to worry about be a put in the whole they have to worry about being moved to another prison depending on how hard a push they don't wanna be too vocal. because they don't want to be signal out of a security risk because they're being vocal about something that they want to learn

. they can move them at any time. they could be take, you know, just rolled up and moved to another facility at any time for any reason. there's nothing i can say or do about it. mm. mm, i'm pretty sure they steal down us all the way up to this point. but you can't argue with our results. that's the thing that you can't argue. cameras in every classroom, by soon as we got a classroom camera start coming up in because it was like, okay, well we got to see exactly what's happening. but as good. not only put a camera here, you can come and sit in our classroom when you learn to with maturity effect capacity tooth, once intelligence without the guidance of another. what is conveying is that no one, not even a monarch, government can impede enlightenment of the public. okay,

okay. i thought it was, i thought it was difficult to read whole. i thought it was a career. that's what i dress up for from the moment. i'm not from right or wrong, but this is my life. and so, and it's not about right or wrong, it's about interpretation. no one can say, if your interpretation is wrong, we don't have many will come here to be able to ask them. what did you mean by this? and you have english scholars literary scholars, will try to explain to you what somebody live 20300 years ago. literally meant when they don't know, what am i gathering from this? and at the end of the day, that's all that really matters is what you're gathering, right? because there's a lot of people here who are under the idea that we are kind of exceeded our boundaries as prisoners. if somebody is lying to you, if somebody is in the i was always been so scared about how i looked on

the birth of corey, how him being a young college kid and me being just, you know, some moon hoodlum from tacoma, how anybody would be able to kind of see the person that i've become or my manager the that's something that's always been a fear of mine. nobody was really ever give me a chance i washington state does not have will wiped out the role in the early ninety's. what it replaced parole with was determinant senses. in other words, i'm going to send you to a period of time and it cannot be reduced. doesn't matter what you do in prison. that's your sense. washington has started to figure out that system is not

very jobs that it doesn't work. and so they've started to bring parole back, actually brought parole back for sex offences. and the other group is juvenile is kemati, had committed the crime. 61 days earlier in 2 months passed his 18th birthday. he will been in juvenile and he'd be eligible for parole to the problem with punishment. the problem with setting a life without parole sentence for somebody who was 18 years old at the time in the crime, you don't know who he's going to be 20 years old. oh, i was never really something that i was intending to have while i got curious i because there was a lot of people who are actually going home to crunch. the 1st thing i did is i've kind of started writing letters to some attorneys about what was possible and then a week, you know, he sent me

a letter and told me to call he said that doing my clinic, it will be something that he will be willing to do today we filed a clemency petition with the washington state clemency board. its a formal request asking for a commutation of commodity sentence, asking the governor to change his life sentence to essentially credit for time sir, to let him go. the different family members that have been to prison and seen him even some went and spoke with him. different people would tell me he's changing. he's trying to be a better person at that point where he wasn't ready to accept then, ah, i had thought about reaching out to him. i start to write them and then i throw it

away. i did that probably, maybe 6 or 7 times. and then i just said, okay, forget it. ah, probably 6 months after that, kimani send me a message. i read it. i waited a couple times over and over. i let my family members read it. my grandmother, she raised me from the time i was 6 months old and she always instilled in as a spirit of forgiveness. and he had asked me for my forgiveness in his message that he said to me. and so i told him i said, ah, i forgave you a long time ago, i am not going to forget what happened. and so, but i forgave you. as i understand the challenges you may have had

growing up and i'm not excusing her behavior. but i forgive, you said not only am i for giving you for what you did at the forgive you to allow myself to lavon into heal. ooh. while he was in prison, his daughter was murdered. she was 3 and a half his oh, when she was murdered, the lady that beat my granddaughter to death. i forgiven her. she didn't have the tools to be a mother. she grew up in such a violent atmosphere and was in a gang when she was in lavin. and so when she had my grand daughter, she wasn't capable of showing love art. she didn't have, she didn't know how. and so in an angry drug, addicted rage, she beat my granddaughter to death. and i'll always miss an ira and i would be 23

years old now. but i want her to have a 2nd chance in am because i feel like she never had a chance. i remember when i was in olympia fighting for this bill. i mean, i was a mother trying to fight for her son and i for people to get out on parole. but all these victims came in the 2nd year, and i thought, you know, will after the victims who you know, and i thought, you know what, maybe next time we go to fight for this bill. a be a victim supporting the bill where they got to say i'm a victim and i am against this bill. i'm going to be, i'm a victim and i'm for this bill. now, we are in this dichotomous, either victim or you're a perpetrator. it's not true. victims are perpetrators, perpetrators of victims. and we have to get to a place where we understand we're all victims of this system. i've had a son who was murdered and i have a family that had different ideas about what justice meant and what they wanted to

come out of that process. and i think that had, i not had the experience that i've had it with the black prisons caucus over 20 years. ringback i may or may not have had the same feeling about that, but i was able to immediately forgive. it requires that we look historically we, we contextualize what has happened so that it's not just, i did something to you or you did something to me. there's other environmental things that are pushing our behavior, impacting our behavior to each of us has the capacity, the unfortunate capacity to do terrible things. if the wrong set of circumstances are presented, we need to get to a place in this country where people can atone for their actions and where the hand of forgiveness can be extended. the

prisons are not institutions that detail. the good things that happen in prison. that every once in a while, prison official recognizes that an individual has accomplish something that deserves being talked about in commodities case. a prison official told me that commodity had done more in terms of race relations in prison. and anybody who had ever worked at that prison, that included professional staff. ah, we submitted our petition with a great deal of hope because we felt that commodity had satisfied somewhat vague standard of showing extraordinary circumstances. merit team a change in his sentence. i think that is more about them being able to see the command that i've become and not the commander that i watch. so i think that they

deny me as because they haven't got past that point me a call, you will not be charged for this. call. this call is from an inmate at correction center. what's calls will be recorded and monitored if he was to block anything because of this nature dial 7. now, to accept this call, press 5. now to decline this call. hey, thank you. oh, when i was so wrong, when i just don't move to shape out, this thing becomes the advocate an engagement. it was the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we used to look for common ground.

so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms race group is on often very dramatic development. only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very critical time time to sit down and talk that is this with a crowd of 30 you know, uh community like oh i, i dont then from there and i'm for my that you know from for the diesel super secure place, my kids go to physically more visit with

dick and i'm just kind of a big gladish toshi. associate minutes is so new. been dealer big russian cooper and that this one actually is in a promotion i thought to and that was one question. and i'm with them. oh no, no, no changes. i do normally during a prison i wash myself in prison, i later worse muscle. i don't want to lose faith. only mc junior. more along. what you dorn,

because you're helping the next person get out of jail and continue to stay out of jo to be about the father saw brother personal society ah valuable shadow only you locked up hardware and which of my interest is in people like commodity who worked on rehabilitation and who've been told by the system, you will never get out. it does not matter what you do in prison, it will make no difference in terms of where you die. i want to be able to say yes, it will, because i believe that somebody like commodity makes our community a better community. ah,

this is that they're all on the same just in different stages of right. so this only works yes for that one's really, really right. and there are some that trend proposal just different varieties i was released in june. i was at work release until november 5th. during that time i worked with the school and now i am still on monetary community, gusty and i live with my family. i'm just trying to, ah, figure it out. ah, 3 wills, it's all free or is that equitable? so if you have all the resources to have 5 options open to you and i have the resources they have to open to me how. ready free am i to really choose

and as long as society davies up opportunity and resources where a certain kind of person has 5 and another kind as to, for nothing except for superficial characteristics that are outside of an individual's control. it will be society's fault that prisons are fool a society, the state, the government institutions, all these words that we're, that are big and an amorphous that, that we're trying to, trying to make in this concrete thing that has power over us is us. and we are complicit in our own captivity as long as we don't know that they are us with

our tuesday about is we're right. we get to the about justice. right. what is justice? i'm with what comes to mind when we hear the word justice person with anything more on call room with her. okay. was all corruption co roma prison for britain operation. oh mm

hm. i don't wanna veil but you guys are being a little bit negative, right? because justice is related to all the bad the there has has happened to was right. so yeah, of course we, can we go with the negative, right? because of all of these there. i mean, go room, well being in a corner, most of us have negative experiences when it comes to just do a justice system. yeah. okay. so, so let me, let me make kind of rephrase that. when i, when i think up just is i think this plasma by year and in teach by, in general would all the class is doing it. if door nature, justice i at some point in life there was something that was missing from marcell opportunity that we never had. right. so by i was gonna pitching the chair is something new, something that can empower us. i think he's doing the church just. mm

hm. jesse says the penalty or reward for one's actions, i say penalty or reward because justice can be serving a good way or so. i just want to make sure that everything that i do understand is wrong, eventually come back on me some shape or form. and that to me is chest is the good things that i do. we've actually come back to me in a go and, and bad things i do. i come back to me in a bad way. it's about integrity for me or so i just think that justice is always watching justice isn't. is in a thing dislike, you know, if you, if you break the laws of the land, you'll be locked up. that's a small part of justice. but justice is even bigger than that. justice should control the things that you'd normally nobody else is watch. an awesome justice has to be individualized. justice has to ask, how is the community harms and how can we make it better?

and what role should this individual have in making that community better? just that's a tough one. i'm not certain knowledge. no what justice is justice . i'm not sure if i thought ever thought about that much just to our part in the system and then the next part had to do their part the the lawyers on both sides in judges. but i would still feel good about the bar. i did a this is not about a prison education program and to be very clear, it is not about the department of corrections at all. they just geographically happened to be oppressed there. they could be oppressed anywhere else in the community. ah, it's

a trip because we got some class issues going on. there are many of us who do not believe that people are in prison, could have the answers to our problems. ah, we do not believe that the people sleeping under the bridge can have the answers to their reality. ah, because we have people with ph. d and master's degrees, who then have been certified to do that work. and they have been doing it over and over and over and over and over again. i'm in a, in a system where we've had a 10 year plan that is now turned into a 20 year plan. they just change a name and it's gang. those brothers, no gang. so for all of the classes that we offer to some, we can't wait just for people in prison. aaron's children have the solutions to our problems. and what we will do it 10 years. if we don't attend to this,

we'll be visiting some mom. i will put that on your babies. but it's really the truth. don't think it's natural. ah, because they got the deal. see the feel t federal detention center, the juvenile system, everybody's in the business. ah, and then wait for the education system to fail. our babies so that they go in there . mm. that i don't want to blame deal. see, because it took a whole lot of institutions to get them there. we bail, we fail them in spite of that they've got the flu. ah,

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and worth exploiting natural resources. and moreover, these authorities absolutely had no consideration for the president of the local pub relations, treating them like 2nd class citizens. the british were showing signs of disrespect even to those who operated with them. the fact of ignoring the religious beliefs of the hindus led to the mutiny of the sea boys, mercenary soldiers serving under the british crown. 3000000000 began on the 10th of may 1857 in the garrison town of may road north of india. in the form of a mutiny. the rebels quickly took over daily. the heroic resistance of the indian people lasted for one and a half years. however, the forces were not equal. the colonial authorities dealt with the rebels cruelly thine slaves. the boys were tied to the mouth of the cannon and were shot right through their bodies for the amusement of the public. these type of execution was called the devil's with the obliteration of the mutiny resulted in the death of

800000 inhabitants of india. however, the british empire never broke the free spirit of the indians and their will for resistance. ah ah ah ah hello and welcome to cross stock where all things are considered on peter lavelle for almost a year. it was not allowed to challenge the west. ukraine is winning narrative. that is beginning to change. a military math will always trump the most sophisticated and well funded propaganda wasting another $100000000000.00 will not change the.