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tv   Interview  RT  January 16, 2023 4:30pm-5:00pm EST

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for almost a year was not allowed to challenge the west. ukraine is winning. narrative is beginning to change. a military man will always, from the most sophisticated in well funded propaganda. wasting another $100000000000.00 will not change with
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russia built in up corporation with several african countries across the continent . now do african countries welcome these developing relations? i think so. i think he is, because we're to hear it from many african ambassadors here. really they are welcome, i've got your i chaise. welcome though of course, it's coming a bit late than the other big powers. russia has been accused of neil colonialism and of seeking to expand its influence there. do you think that is the case and if not, what is perhaps who stands to benefit from driving a wedge between russia and africa. and the 1st groceries are cusick who is accused . russia is really amazing. those countries walk years. roger,
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who might accuse russia are the ones who i've been there for long and as new york colonists and connie analysis, i think they are afraid of her. i shall competing with them now enough acre da, da da da. the approach of russia should differ very much from the up or down approach. what is their approach like law is so far for the last 50 years or is it one? previously it was colonial, and up afterwards he thought it was it near columbia. i didn't see the difference and africa for the last 50 years. he and it didn't get anything from them. it's removed or it was 50 years ago. i remember read, you know, i don't know where exactly that it's in, in the sixty's to african countries,
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the sudan and gunner though are on the same level. a south korea that i saw. where are they know these 2 african countries and what is korean? know? why? because they invested into zullie in south korea. what is they didn't do that in africa. why do you think i didn't do that in africa? i don't know willoughby for this. is better that africa remains only to source or for rural materials. what do you think they're so afraid of with africa becoming stronger, for example, by them investing more africa becoming stronger? of course there will be less dependence on them. missy far recorded. so why do you think we're still seeing the issue of neil colonialism? so prevalence and africa, no one thing is, you don't,
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we don't have to blame the colonial power scholarly. well to blame also the african countries. did they try in the last 50 years to get rid of them? not. no, not many of them. they're not. i mean, especially the leader, pos, africa is now awakening. and there will be a new africa. so they are free now to thread what they want. why russia could be welcome. rochelle was china. i seen the last areas where we can cooperate with russia. beach in the security sector, trade sector, economic sector, and defense sector. or for doc monitor, also in other areas of refusal is only the potentially any 3 or the biggest, maybe one of the biggest. what us 30, if you sent to me about 3 days ago,
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i think now that he went to reach it was cited with china for the exploitation of it and needs to be professional in the next, you know, corporation with russia could be very important in the agriculture sector also booth. and the answer of know how in the transfer of origin, the productivity, you've mentioned china twice so far already and china, of course, it is the most important partner for every trail for what i understand. could russia compete in that aspect? or maybe that's not even competition, there's not a thing in this area and it's just western rhetoric. what would you say? why not nearly enough to do for this boast, cancer is if they try to invest or or, and the competition is not, i think even among friends, there is competition. many countries,
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even members of the european union, j compete among some sort of so, so for to win more markets in other countries. so or north osaka, china computing discipline, but it doesn't mean that the that is low enough for all 4 to all your let's talk about the united nations. moving on to the crisis with the ukraine. we saw that every trail was one of the countries that did not vote against russia at the un. what were you guided by when making that decision? and were you not perhaps fearful of the sanctions that could come in and posed as a means of punishment for not floating against russia, a small country like every 3 or is under sanctions for so many years? no help from them? no, nothing. so there is nothing to look for on this and what that to have done except to gain a this are, we have kept our principal who are not please it will. all the manipulation is done
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. alina finishes, the establish thunder, blame and the others for the same thing. for the same thing, while it on the 1st, for the as a, was to blame with the dog or they have no right to blame. others called the ard was, they are doing in other countries as seen, has been done. even dish was, it hasn't been raised in that or so any threats against dis, double standards sanctions that are imposed aren't having the fact that western countries would like. so why do you think they continue with this policy of enforcing sanctions that we then see don't have their desire. the fact. thus one point i don't understand myself. so because as i know they are suffering also from the sanction themselves. the final analysis sanctions don't work beatty it i, especially with the retail, there is
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a small country which has no we don't contribute my to the award economic water sanctions on us. well, money genius for the last 20 years because we don't the exports that well, the import and the market is there or so she wanted that they don't sell as there are. other markets also are just rush hour or so no doubt imposed sanctions or rush about. there are other markets also they didn't expect that we can. i mean the does the resume, will house these the sanctions or into city we leased this or is you would for lisa, what has happened is i was last is more than they expected and do you how overcome many of the sanctions? how did you manage to do that? so our people were, they saw that there was nobody tilted though they did. they depended on themselves
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and this principle of work. and i'm to love the contribution of the us. what are the contribution of the people are resisting the sanctions and the outside pressure is leaking my country. so we'll have the will of this tradition of resistance resisting outside pressure. we've also seen how the, why sort of cherry pick? so what to show about what's happening around the world. for example, when we saw the crisis in ukraine unfold, at the same time, there was a crisis happening in neighboring ethiopia, which was totally ignored. and it was on a scale much larger than what was, what was happening in ukraine. why do you think that is, why are they ignore in issues and countries like at the olympia, but not in the countries like ukraine? buddy, i assume maybe they didn't completely ignore it because they were demonized
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in due to a p, our region they were supplying and help in the re both. there i'm in the province. there are no more eyes in my country or so 40 that it was committing crime. he sinned all these things until now with us. they never stopped . they wanted in my, our president and our country, they didn't completed it. recognize it may be, it was, it wasn't as widely spoken of us that of the ukraine because here in ukraine, they are deeply war with saw. why do they want to generalize your country? because you know, this is the problem with the african countries also, or they do even now they will face problems. those will try to go their own way. we have been or pause in this dig stack of the us for the last, you know,
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since we started fighting we want to walk on way. so they don't like that. that is our main seed. any country who wants to walk his own way is not allowed to do so. in africa. they have to show you the way this is the right way to work. so that's all our only seen, only will continue to our own way because those who are goin, the way they were told to go, they are still there. there still, there were, they didn't move and eat from where they were. they some examples benny mooney africa of itself. yeah, of course. so we have learned from that also africa awaken in now what if you've said that already that africa is awakening? now, what do you attribute that to wise at awakening?
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now, the new generation is different from that of the older generation. it could be that and her inside parisha they use who are looking for war. and who are louis looking for better for jobs? i mean, looking for better stand us of live an indication or operate genius. they are not fine in there. so they are trying to analyze what you saw saw. maybe they come to a conclusion. it's because of this, no coronel policies of some countries. what is the regional situation like right now also with neighboring, if he lps the situation with i think it's now we subsidize stability and will help you to continue to stabilize. so of course you can say
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definitely that piece is a huge because it depends on many sir, not factors. also, there are those powers who don't or don't like to see peace in that areas. what we hope there will be compelled also, or maybe they will recall. now that piece is neosha sadie in that area also who is the day? i mean, the worst, mostly the west and those countries while it is a west, which is supporting their tick regime. and who is humanizing us, who is intervening in that area. and he said the failed. how did they fail? we call the rivers. they was supporting down now completely defeated. they came to sign
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a piece of the man to this european government and out there given their weapons buck to the federal government. they couldn't fight, they were totally defeat all the support they were getting from the outside world was i mean from many then i said, said it's a life because they were traveling outside our supports. i'm in there. i think the to that the writer was in africa to use. now when we approach africa, i mean countries who want to do business with africa. the up, the sheep down approach should be i'm in there should are worried this awards like help in a store. the help partnership this ward is very important now in the country will help you or aid and help bid this the, the things are not that we want to make partnership with the partner to this war to
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could make a change in africa. so the approach, that's why the chinese are now in all the quantities of africa they are approached is different from that of the ex colonial bars. and there i shall, could do the same also it was treat them as partners and it sucks. you awesome. so basically, lots to portray african countries like that. things constantly need of house. yeah . new those every day. whenever there are this organizations, non government organizations, when they collect the money in the name of america, i mean the children, they're hungry. children are all africans, africa, and their name of africa. this is of how they portrayed of ego. so the opera should be different for any candidates succeed that may not meet russia,
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china, or maybe india is now or so operation, or turkeys, or shop, or ocean africa. you've mentioned that western countries are losing their influence in africa right now. what are african new preferred alliances? i think of because want to deal with all the countries in the world. they don't want to be treated to deal with those countries. for don. i accept them as their equals so they will deal with those countries who deal with them as they are. he, course people treat them as they are called china is one of them giant, i had one of them over. what are the countries a treat when i rush hour? so russia, i hear also the policy is also that is a policy or so to treat them or new quote, a term so,
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so with africa to create partnership, not this quote called neo colonial mentality. so you don't see russia as having neil colonialist notes in its attitudes towards eritrea and my understanding that correctly, i hope so because russia wasn't the colonial power or so and your last russia. exactly. but when we speak to the soviet union, also for the, the people of your car is a savior, russia so that there is this memory of this year helping and i wish we used to help with the liberation movements. saw it as go do school name also. it could make use of a nation rush. i lost a new coronel part colonial power so it doesn't work. it didn't. i recall only
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in africa at least or no arrows. far as i know, i, eritrea has still has a soviet military base that's not no longer working and there are no plans to restore it. but is there a possibility of a military corporation? were there a tray you mentioned before, security defense in what way could eritrea russia corporate in terms of the military? you know, the fact that the rules and military base in, in the islands of dialogue, it wasn't our, it wasn't our choice. a 3 or has nothing to do with that. it was under occupation. so it was the military regime which was getting help from the soviet union, which gave the soviets and it was used against us also
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against us. and there was another base also in us more a communication base of which the emperor gave to dana or to the nice if it were there until they went off sport next was put next a period. so they had to to leave it. i'm in the military regime, told them to leave or so. so it wasn't our choice. and the policy, it does foreign policy of a threat is not to have for a vase on its soil, but military cooperation, amazing cooperation will be there. i'm sure all the equipment that we have is either either so with mate or russia made before independence. when we are fight, it does not continue chosen supplying us. but we were to capture lots of weapons,
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isn't as far as tanks afterward. so who are used to soviet weapons we were using and there is the sculpture of using saw it. and after that, we bought, i mean, after independence or so we bought several i, when we were fighting you do talk of our or so we both some pilot lyman l place, war place, i mean, mucous megs and sauce. and other in the face, ah weapons from here. so this cooperation has been going on for the last 20 years. there were a rush and experts permit theory throughout. just to to teach you are, are people there. so it will continue now and maybe even, you know,
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on a bigger scale, maybe a whitening sale may be on the bigger scale law because of the situation. now we'll have to build out our system, our defense system, to have a stronger defense system may be saw on that. and now, because we are free to buy, there are no sankey, this rush hour so sanctioned as because the united nations, russia are the big power cords while it also this the resolutions of their with. so it was difficult for us even when we're fighting with europe to buy arms from here it was difficult and i shall be at a loss. but now the sanctions has been lifted here. so we will buy all the equipment for the marine. i'm in the for day for damarian force or air defense systems. so that's why i say it may be on
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a bigger scale. awesome. is that something that's already planned? have you had the conversations about acquiring more? just our discussion as our doorway calls and so have the, the list here saw the best to who apples you see the motto provided throughout the money or the where am i think russia will sell us anything else we'd like to have in general, we're seeing this tendency, alva, africa, african countries becoming more dominance in the world wide arena. do you think, is there a chance of africa becoming a dominant force in the next few years? perhaps a couple of decades? is that a reality is a possible movie and not a dominant force. wow. and say that, but africa without a bigger voice, no bigger influence in the future. because even 3 to 4 countries
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mark his 4 members of the united nations are from africa. so not added to that also is noted earlier, africa is also developing or to foster it, economical them. so maybe it is to lose this leverage also for hub in a bigger say in though in though the nice english in this or to the world alger as a whole. is there no fear as africa develops faster and faster that perhaps the west will try and put a pause to that or to stop that as we've seen, happen in history, in the past with other countries. it's natural because an early growth in africa, his it bless depends is on those countries. so do
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they would like to have bigger influence as it and so that africa depended on them. every car should remain a market for them as what they were there. they would like to see what things don't go that way. they have the, it's natural that africa will develop. so having to prevent that from happening again. how can you prevent that so that africa continues its growth and stays there without outside interference manipulation. i think my strength then in the african union it's very difficult so, so because they will do their best also to have a bigger to, to influence africa. africa will also try to not to be in. so dependent on them instead of for example, let's say, instead of exports to roll materials, africa could start exporting semi foolish products then after or
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so. so finished products. why only a raw material. arturo martinez, you don't get anything from that. so that way africa could move to self dependency . self sufficiency, i'm said. so how long didn't i could take to self sufficiency? pro i there is a will it could it could take a shorter time. i see now many countries as, as i measure it in south korea, it didn't take her to law and or so even china, china is now a lead in world power. now, economic power, big prefer power. i always reforms with it is reform as you did now is worse. it is, it's very difficult to predict. but my walk in hard by work
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my to making the reforms and how you know the policy. i think it would take a short time, but i can't say hold on with a with
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