tv Interview RT January 16, 2023 8:30pm-9:01pm EST
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i do last, i do logical interests that us are fighting for the rights for the interest for the needs of those are people citizens who have voted for them and who ask her for their rights and interests to be taken serious in the parliament. her work . it's an attempt to save her face, and i think it's really hard to tackle this problem. it's also hard to wind back the trust of the population. he can find that the latest news discussion and debate on our website r t dot com. thank if it, if this company here without internet mm hmong more when i was showing wrong, when i just don't i have to see how it
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comes to an engagement. it was the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look for common ground. only one main thing is important for not ism internationally speaking to that is that nations visits are allowed to do anything or the mazda races. the reason us her germany so dangerous is the law, the sovereignty of the country wars business and business is good, and that is the reality of what we are facing, which is fashion. oh, russia built up corporation with several african countries across the continents.
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now do african countries of welcome these developing relations? i think so. i think he is because to hear it from many african ambassadors here really, the outcome of the russia is welcome. though of course, it's coming a bit late than the other big power. russia has been accused of neo colonialism and of seeking to expand its influence there. do you think that is the case and if not, what is perhaps who stands to benefit from driving a wedge between russia and africa. the 1st place was accused who is accused in russia is really amazing. those countries walk years, russia who might accuse russia are the ones who i'll be in there for long and as
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new york or analysis and connie analysis, i think they are afraid of rational competing with them. now, for the example that the approach of russia should differ very much from the upper down approach. what is their approach like law is so far for the last 50 years or is it one? previously, it was colonial, and up afterwards it wasn't near columbia. i didn't see the difference and africa for the last 50 years. he into a didn't get anything from them. he 3 minority, it was 50 years ago. i remember read, you know, i don't know where it was. i'll keep that it in, in the sixty's to african countries, the salon and ghana. there were on the same level,
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a south korea that i saw. where are they know these 2 african countries and oil is korea know why? because they invested into zullie in south korea. what is they didn't do that in africa. why do you think i didn't do that in africa? i don't know willoughby for this. is better that africa remains only to source or for role material. what do you think they're so afraid of with africa becoming stronger, for example, by them investing more africa becoming stronger? of course there will be less dependence on them. missy far recorded the world. so why do you think we're still seeing the issue of neil colonialism? so prevalence and africa? no one thing is you don't, we don't have to blame the colonial power scholarly. well to blame. also the african countries digits, right?
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in the last 50 years to go 3 of them, not no, not many of them. they're not, i mean, especially the leader. but africa is now awakening, and there will be a new african saw. no, they are free now to threads with wolves, they want a sly or i shall, could be welcome bradshaw or china. i see that our last areas where we can cooperate with russia. beach, in the security sector, threat sector, economic sector, and defense sector. or for death martyr also in other areas overseas. open. this only that potentially editor has the biggest may be one of the biggest potash or fertilizers. it felt his cell to the about 3 days ago. i think an agreement to was richard will sign it with china for the exploitation of it and
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it will be operational in the next to the cooperation with our shock would be very important in the agricultural sector. also with their transfer of know how in the transfer of for origin, the productivity, you've mentioned china. that's why so far already. and china, of course it is the most important partner for every trail from what i understand could russia competes in that aspect? or maybe that's not even competition. there's not a thing in this area and it's just western rhetoric. what would you say? why not nearly 3 hours is enough to do for this both countries, if they try to invest or, or in the competition is not i think even among friends, there is competition many contradicts even members of the european union, j compete among some sort of so, so for to win more markets in other countries. so or north osaka,
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china with computing discipline, but it doesn't mean that the that is low enough for all 4 to all. let's talk about the united nations. moving on to the crisis with the ukraine. we saw that every trail was one of the countries that did not vote against russia at the un. what were you guided by when making that decision? and were you not perhaps fearful of the sanctions that could come in and posed as a means of punishment for not floating against russia. a small country like area is under the assumption is for so many years, no help from them. no, not in. so there is nothing to rule from this ah, what that to have done except to gain at this hour we have kept our principal who are not please it will all the manipulation is done as the night ignatius the
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establish, thunder, blame, and the other is for the same thing for the same thing, while on the 1st for the are the wants to blame with the outdoor they have no right to blame. others could they are what they are doing in other countries i've seen has been done. even dish was it hasn't been raised in that or so any threats against dis, double standards sanctions that are imposed aren't having the fact that western countries would like. so why do you think they continue with this policy of enforcing sanctions that we then see don't have their desired effect? thus one point i don't understand myself. so because as i know they are suffering also from the sanction themselves. the final analysis sanctions don't work. beat it. oh, especially when they retire there is a small country which has no we don't contribute my to the award economy was to
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sanctions on us. well, money genius for the last 20 years because we don't the exports that well, the import and the market is there or so if you wanted that they don't sell as there are other markets or so i just rush hour or so no doubt imposed sanctions or rush about, there are other markets or so they didn't expect that we can i'm in the dark there is you will house these sanctions or into the city we leased this or is you would for lisa, what has happened is i was rust is more than they expected and do you, how overcome many of the sanctions, how did you manage to do that? so our people were, they saw that there was nobody tilted though they did. they depended on themselves and this principle of work. and i'm to love the contribution of the us. what are
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the contribution of the people are resisting the sanctions and the outside pressure is picking my country. so we'll have the will of this tradition of resistance resisting outside pressure. we've also seen how the, why sort of cherry pick so what to show about what's happening around the world. for example, when we saw the crisis in ukraine unfold, at the same time, there was a crisis happening in neighboring ethiopia, which was totally ignored. and it was on a scale much larger than what was, what was happening in ukraine. why do you think that is? why are they ignore in issues and countries like at the olympia, but not in the countries like ukraine? buddy, i assume maybe they didn't completely ignore it because they were the one i didn't do to a p, our region they were supplying and help in the re both there i'm in the province.
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there are more is in my country or so 40 that it was committing crime. he sinned all these things until now with us, or they never stop and they wanted in my, our president and our country they did completed it colonized, it may be, it was, it wasn't as widely spoken of us that of the ukraine because here in ukraine, the are deeply war with saw. why do they want to dina, lies your country. because, you know, this is the problem with the african countries or so, or they do even now they will face problems. those will try to go their own way. we have been or pause is this dick stacked on the us for the last, you know, since we started fighting, we want to our own way. so they don't like that. that is our main seed.
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any country who wants to walk his own way is not allowed to do so. in africa. you have to show you the way this is the right way to walk. so that's all our only seen . only will continue to our own way because those who are going the way they were told to go, they are still there. there are still there were, they didn't move and eat from where do they some examples. benny mooney, africa of itself. because so we have learned from north or south africa awaken in. now what if you've said that already that africa is awakening? now, what do you attribute that to wise at awakening? now the new generation is different from that of the older generation.
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it could be that and her inside pressure they use while looking for war. who are louis looking for better for jobs? i mean, looking for better. stand us off, leave an indication or operate genius. they are not fine in there. so they are trying to analyze what you saw saw, maybe they come to the conclusion. it's because of this, no coronel policies or some countries. what is the region or situation like right now also with neighboring if he lps the situation with i think it's now with civility, stability and will help you to continue to stabilize. so of course you can't say definitely does. piece is
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a huge because it depends on many sir, not factors. also there are those powers for don't hold on to like her to see peace in that area else. but we hope there will be compelled also or maybe there were recall lies. that piece is neosha sadie in that area also who is the day i'm in the west, mostly the west in those countries while it is a west which is supporting their decry regime. and who is humanizing us who is intervening in that area. and he said the failed. how did they fail? because the rivers they was supporting now now completely defeated. they came to sign a piece. i agree, man, through this european government and out there given their
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weapons buck to the federal government. they couldn't fight, they were totally defeat all the support they were getting from the outside world was i mean no from many then i said, said it's a life because i was traveling outside and support i'm in the right thing. the to that a writer was in africa to use. now when we approach africa, i'm in countries for want to do business with africa. the up there she down approach should be i'm in there should are worried this war does like help in a store. the help partnership this ward is very important now in the country will help you or aid and help bid this the, the things are not that we want to make partnership with the partner to this war to could make a change in africa. so the approach,
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that's why the chinese are now in all the countries of africa they are approached is different from that of the ex colonial bars. and there i shall, could do the same also it was treat them as partners and it sucks you those. so basically, lots to portray african countries like that. things constantly need of house. yeah . new those every day. whenever there are these organizations, non government organizations, when they collect the money in the name of our car. yeah. i mean, the children, they're hungry children are all africans, africa, and their name of africa. this is of how the portrait of ego so the opera should be different for any candidates succeed. i mean, meet russia, china, or maybe india is now or so operation, or turkeys,
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or shop welsh in africa. you've mentioned that western countries are losing their influence in africa right now. what are african new preferred alliances? i think of because want to deal with all the countries in the world. they don't want to be treated to deal with those countries. for don. i accept them as they are equals so they will deal with those countries will deal with them as they are. he course in all 3, of course, china is one of them giant, i had one of them over what other countries i treat when i rush hour. so russia, i hear here also the policy is also that is a policy or so to treat them or new quote, a term so, so with africa to create partnership, not this quote called neo colonial mentality. so you don't see a russia has have
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a neil colonialist notes in its attitudes towards eritrea and my understanding that correctly, i hope so, because rush, i wasn't the colonial power or so and your last russia. exactly. but when we speak to the soviet union, also for the, the people of your car is a service in russia. so that there is this memory of this is helping which we used to help with we barish movements saw is as go discord, name also, it could make use of a nation rush. i lost a new coronel part colonial power, so it doesn't work. you didn't, i recall only in africa, least or low arrows as far as i know,
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i, eritrea has still has a soviet military base that's not no longer working and there are no plans to restore it. but is there a possibility of a military corporation with their i try, you mentioned before security defense in what way could eritrea russia corporate in terms of the military. you know, the fact that the rules and military base in, in the islands of dialogue, it wasn't our, it wasn't our choice a 3 or has nothing to do with that. it was under occupation. so it was the military regime which was getting hurt from the soviet union, which gave the soviets and it was used against us also against us. and there was another bass or seen us more communication
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base of with the emperor gave to dana that of the nice if it were there until they went off. sports next was put next a period. so they had to, to live in, i'm in the military regime, told them to leave or so. so it wasn't our choice. and the policy, it does foreign policy of a threat is not to have for a vase on its soil, but military cooperation, a major cooperation will be there. i'm sure all the equipment that we have is either either soviet made or russia made before independence. when we are fight, it does not continue chosen supplying us, but we were to capture lots of weapons, isn't as far as tanks afterwards. so who are used to soviet weapons we were using
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and there is the sculpture of using soviet and after that we bought, i mean after independence also we bought several i, when we were fighting, we do talk of our or so we both some pilot lyman airplanes were place, i mean, mucous megs and sauce, and other fs ah weapons from here. so this cooperation has been going on for the last 20 years. there were a rush and experts permit theory throughout just to to teach you are our people there. so it will continue even now, maybe even, you know, on a bigger scale, maybe a whitening sale may be on the bigger scale law because of the situation. now
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we'll have to build out our system, our defense system to have a stronger defense system may be saw on that for now, because we are free to buy there are no sanctions rush hour so sanctioned as because the united nations russia as a big power cords while it also this the resolutions of their with so it was difficult for us even when we're fighting with europe to buy arms from here it was difficult and i shall be at a loss. but now the sanctions has been lifted here. so we will buy all the expense for day marine for day, for demarion force or defense systems. so that's why i say maybe on a bigger scale or so, is that something that's already planned? have you had a conversations about acquiring more?
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just our discussion as our doorway calls and so have the the list here saw the best weapons you see the motto provided throughout the money or there were em, i think russia will sell us anything that we'd like to have in general. we're seeing this tendency. alva, africa, african countries becoming more dominance in the world wide arena. do you think, is there a chance of africa becoming a dominant force in the next few years? perhaps a couple of decades? is that a reality is a possible movie and not a dominant force. wow. and say that, but africa without a bigger voice and bigger influence in the future. because even 3 to 4 countries mark his 4 members of the united nations are from africa. so not
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are this to that also is noted earlier, africa is also there were often or to foster it economically i'm so maybe is to lose this leverage also for hub in a bigger say in though in though the nice in the shins or in the old alger as a whole, has there no fear as africa develops faster and faster that perhaps the west will try and put a pause to that, or to stop that as we've seen happen in history. in the past with other countries, it's natural because any, any growth in africa, his, it bliss depends is on those countries. so do they would like to have bigger influence as it and so that africa depended on
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them. every car should remain a market for them as what they were there. they would like to see what things don't go that way. they have the, it's natural that africa will develop. so having to prevent that from happening again. how can you prevent that? so that africa continues its growth and stays there without outside interference manipulation. i think my strength then in the african union, it's very difficult so, so because they will do their best also to have a bigger, to, to influence africa. africa will also try to not to be in, so dependent on them instead of for example, let's say, instead of export to ro, martinos, africa could start exporting semi finished products. then afterwards, so, so finished products, why only are all materials,
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raw materials. you don't get anything from that so that way africa could move to self dependency. self sufficiency, i'm said. so how long do you think that could take to self sufficiency? pro i there is a will it could it could take a shorter time. i see now many countries as, as i measured it in south korea, it didn't take her to law at all. so even china, china is now a lead in oral power. now, economic power, big prefer power. i always reforms, miseries reforms you did now is where it is. it's very difficult to predict. but my walk in hard by work my to
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make you know the forms and have you know, the right policy. i think it will take a short time. what i can say, hold on to take a check in ah, who is the aggressor to day? i'm authorizing the additional strong sanctions today. russia is the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. and number those constantly growing. but i figure which of the problem was the question, as we speak on the bill in your senior mostly mind the will ship, we're banding all in ports of russian oil and gas news. i know they plenty of holes
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with the literature. we're pretty good regarding joe, by imposing these sanctions on russia has destroyed the american economy. so there's your boomerang self. oh, is your media reflection of reality? in the world transformed what will make you feel safer? hi sir. lation whole community. are you going the right way? where are you being led somewhere? direct. what is true? what is faith? in the world corrupted, you need to descend a join us in the depths or remain in the
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