there were earlier walls which are not normally counted as part of the 2nd world bull, but which, when you look at it probably were, let's say, early tremors which indicated the earthquake to come, i'm thinking of the spanish civil war. right. and there's a lot similarity between the ukraine war and the spanish civil war. both there wasn't an invasion of spain by a foreign country, as there is in the case of, of russia and ukraine. but so the spanish civil war is known as well known of calls for the intervention practiced by outside powers by the nazis on the one handed by the soviet union on the other. so the spanish will was a special was a proxy war much as we have in ukraine. and of course, to some extent it was a precursor to the 2nd world war. and so in that sense, i think he is right. the big difference of course, is that we're in the nuclear age now, and that's why you can't really compare the $900.00 thirty's to the present period because of the big powers america, russia and china and so on. know that there are very serious limits to how they can

go to war with each other. and that's why i think probably i would be less pessimistic than the man who had taught. i wouldn't necessarily say that we're going to go towards a head on conflict by the proxy war. definitely. well, jed george her thoughts too, because in many well taught in his article, he said he talks about it in this conflict as he claims we're in the middle of this 3rd world war. it's an ex, essential for the west, particularly the united states and russia. that's a very interesting characterization and characterization, because i would say from a security point of view, there is a proxy war on the part of the united states to weaken russia. we've even heard the secretary defend say that, but he says it's just as existential to the west, which is quite an interesting characterization. go ahead, george. no, i think that's right. and it has the con, existential, because the west has chosen to go down this path. it didn't have to be existential for russia. yes, absolutely. thanks,

essential. but once the united states essentially committed itself in such a hard way to the school and has refused all reasonable attempts to negotiate. and to bring this to some kind of a conclusion, then it has now become existential for the united states. it's very hard to see how the united states can back away from where it's come to. and in fact, a all the indications that the united states is preparing to escalate those an article in the new york times of the other day in which was clearly us officials briefly new york times reported that they were planning to help you crane target of targets inside russia, including premium, once the united states goes down this path, then i think it's all bets are off and, and then we really are in the territory of shooting was. so i wouldn't be quite so

optimistic. well, because the nuclear power and it won't come to that, i think that a good welcome to that simply because this is where we've got to because once united states in box on this course, helping to target targets inside russia, russia will retaliate the 1st thing it will do, will be to target american satellites, it has to because it's the use of satellites that enables this targeting to take place. and then who knows how the united states would respond. so, you know, i think we are in a very dangerous, it's a very interesting alex. let me go to george, george. and john are both right, depending on how you want to look at the argument here. because this was a craven on the part of the united states that they did not have to go in to use ukraine as a proxy. it has done it and it will continue to do so just for the very reasons of

prestige and to make sure it's allies, they with it, which i want to talk more about. but i mean, this is a choice on the part of the, of the united states forcing its nato allies to go down this path. go ahead. nice, absolutely. i mean, look at this has been dis, pressure's been on for a long time when i was talking about the past year since the war broke out in ukraine. i was reporting back in 2014 by j t t f, which are canadian special forces dixie up to, to be exact, be on the ground in ukraine and training what we're known to be. wall street journal's written about it. neal knowledge probably sector at the time as well as the, as the county and now that the canadians were involved. the brits have been involved french or been involved. of course, the americans of the, of all there's a push with some call it needle creepy. can call it what you like. this did not have to go down. well, that way was we saw russia in discussion at the very point. say, hey, all you gotta say is that you're not going to spread nato in this direction. give

us a couple of guarantees and there will be no problems here. but the u. s. whatever was coming out to washington dc was what, you know, what they got the freedom to do whatever they want to, that is countries. everybody's got their own will and freedom to do what they want as an individual nation, which we've seen time and time again, united states not allowing countries to do what they want, but when it works out for them, it works great with this examples. and that's the thing and brush reacted now. the question is that i agree with todd, 100 percent. russia did not have to wait reacted at this time in history. there was no immediate threat that something was going to go down, that there was any bigger skill over of needed to ukraine at this moment. they got suckered in the got pulled into this war. and now what we have is something that can lead to a 3rd world war. what i want to say is we don't, we're talking about world war 2. let's go back to world war one. this looks like world war one, watch this movie a long road war tells you the whole story. the world war, one started decades prior to world war one, actually started getting gabriela,

prince sorry, able, and it was all about russia was the germans austro hungarian wanting to get to russia. this is similar in that aspect. it's natal wanting to get to russia to we can russia, and now we have the situation on our hands. i can become much worse than just the situation. approx your new child. i mean, we all agree. it's a proxy war here. we can talk about how it is existential for what party. but i would posit that it is existential for nato. not for american security, not by a long shot, but nato. they're putting everything on the table here. this is a, this is a game of russian roulette here, and they're the ones pulling the trigger. go ahead, john. yeah, i think that's right. and i think that's it, though i do agree with the manual told as well, that it's existential for the united states. and in the sense that definitely for nato, but also for the americans in the sense that they postwar germany of the united states is of course on the head, germany of the dollar. as well as on military supremacy and the americans and,

and the europeans as well. for that matter have shot themselves in the foot on the monetary question. i buy as we know of freezing people's assets and essentially stealing that the money of other countries. and this is an incredibly stupid thing to do because of course it means that no one is going to put money into a country ever. no 3rd, no 3rd power and so on is going to do that because they've seen what can happen to their money. and if the dollar germany crumbles as it it is doing with the increasing closeness between not just russia and china, but also between iran and russia. saudi arabia and russia are then indeed they had germany will be threatened. a told to make another point which is about cultural hegemony. you, john, you're getting ahead of me as exact, but go ahead please. because i wanted to do. i was not in the 2nd world war, sorry, in the cold war. the soviet union, of course, had a large amount of soft power in the sense that it was the leading

a power of communism and communism existed all over the world. and so communists from latin america to the far east, looked to moscow. now it's the issue of conservative values versus woke ism, you know, the collective west nato and so on, is, is heavily it has gone deeply down the woke route, you know, gay marriage and transsexuals them and so on. and russia's clinicals that doesn't go down very well in most other parts of the world, but in africa, not in south america, probably not even in the far east, excuse me. and russia, of course, is playing that card quite quite dexterously. so, so in that sense, i think that the cultural hegemony of the west is also under threat as well as the military and economic germany. well, at george, you know that, you know, this is one of my favorite topics to talk about. i got 30 seconds before we go to the break, but cultural element is key to this argument here. go ahead, george, real quick. well, it is a key because during the cold war,

the soviet union really wasn't a particularly appealing cultural phenomena. and i mean, you know, it was culturally very conservative, we stop politically, it was obviously a very unattractive and as an economic model in terms of its consumer goods, lateral lateral, it wasn't a very attractive and you know, but it didn't have military power. something has changed drastically and that is that the west is now culturally, again gone down a very strong. i gotta tell that don george, i gotta go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on a global conflict state with

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it was the trail. when so many find themselves will depart, we choose to look for common ground. only one main thing is important for knox. ism internationally speaking, that is, that nations that's allowed to do anything, all the mazda races, and then you have the minor nations who are the slave americans. brock, obama, and others have had a concept of american exceptionalism. international law exist as long as it serves the american interest. if it doesn't, it doesn't exist by turning those russians into this dangerous go. you man, that wants to take over the world. that was a conscious strategy. so some golf out of it, on your own, i not leashed,

often zip on in tablet block. nato said it's ours. we moved east and the reason us had gemini is so dangerous. is it? the law is the sovereignty of all the countries. the exceptionalism that america uses in its international war planning is one of the greatest threats to the populations of different nations. if nature, what is bad shareholders in united states and elsewhere in large arms companies would lose millions and millions or is business and business is good. and that is the reality of what we're facing, which is fashion with

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to remind you we're discussing global conflict. ah, i want to go, i want to go back to george and in budapest here because we started talking about a really critical issue about this global conflict and it is on the back of an article by you menu. well, todd fascinating thinker in writer, george, i mean if you're, if you're, you know, you could talk about economics. if you said the soviet union was not an attractive model for many in the world, but it was anti colonial was anti western. so that was, you know, enough to get you interested in, but now we're in a very different era. the western model cultural model is very unattractive for most of the world right now. and we add to that the decline if a gemini, the global south or the global majority, as i like to refer to them. they don't have any appreciation for western culture anymore if even call culture. and they're not afraid of the west, like they used to be george. yes,

i think so. and the west has gone down to strange bar. woke is in which it has challenged traditional relations between men and women. traditional marriage, embrace gay marriage and now it embrace the trans right. the idea that you would just simply define your own gender and everybody has to pull down on these and accept your claim to be a man or a woman, irrespective of your biological sex, to muscle, the world. this just seems so bizarre and alien and this is what may come to associate with the west. moreover, all of these appealing aspects of western culture house seem to be appealing to hollywood movies, which used to be in love the maya around the world. you know, the gang, some movies, the screwball comedies, all the things are very popular. have now come to be, hey, to the movies. all stupidly violent women beating

up man and all the rest. and, you know, the in the other countries are coming up with their own cultural brands that are actually quite becoming quite popular around the world. you know, chinese cinema, hong kong cinema, taiwan cinema and hollywood has lost this appeal. and that was keyed to american soft power. you know, that the, the, all pervasiveness of hollywood, it's filled. and if some of vision work just lost that then and you know, the american stuff, you know, is, goes out the window, you know, alex, i mean what, what we're all talking about in this part of the program hasn't been used yet, but it's all about different forms of sovereignty, cultural sovereignty, societal sovereignty, but different, you know, i want to go back to a manual talk. he says that europe has become a kind of imperial protectorate, which has, has little sovereignty. and for our viewers,

he's focusing on the outcome of the 2nd world war, germany and japan. primarily they are the main protectorate and the, the, the spirits in which american power revolves around in europe and in asia right here. how do you look at that? because it's really quite remarkable. you know, you have the president of the united states with the german chancellor, which i referred to as sergeant schultz next to him in january of last year. and they were talking about the north stream to a german russian project. and well, what we're, you know, how will you end? it will end it. ok. i mean, and then you have the german chancellor standing there smiling like a chimpanzee. i mean look like a complete phone. ok. germany did nothing. as matter fact. nobody's really interested in what happened to the pipelines. it's extraordinary how submissive these countries are when particularly germany is the powerhouse of europe. alex, a nice, you're not. you're not a leaders in germany. that powerhouse of europe buds, germany will seen as

a green power house. the country that was moving this continent forward when it comes to green everything and then you blow up a pipeline and more environmentally damaged. and you know, the only guy can tell, but i don't know how much a lot. there's like one of the biggest environmental disasters that's happened in a long, long time. who did it? you know, they will never know will never know. you got to keep on jessica. look, europe is europe. it's still a step better than what we have back in canada. i can't speak for the united states . i have to qualify myself here. i'm a big supporter of pierre trudeau, the old judo, and what he said, which was that what you do, your bedroom is nobody's. i'm feel 100 percent like that. i agree with that 100 percent. but once you start telling people what to do, once you bring transvestite to the school, to dance around children, once you trans best title transsexual people into to races with women.

once we start working up these mines, things start not to make sense. now, i'm going to tell you something that pendulum might have swung in one direction and it's about crazy direction right now. but there are a lot of people and they're not looking towards rush hour towards the south or towards china or anybody else. canadians and other countries are looking towards people within their own nations to take that step back and how the pendulum land someplace in the middle, again, all for gay, right. but don't shove it in my face. and that's the problem. well, i mean, yeah, but, but i think i, i'm certainly the viewers of this program would agree with you. but let me go to john here. we can throw in ukraine and we can throw in trans rights we can throw in, woke as i'm all of these things in much, much more because institutionally, in the west, it is basically a 90 with 10 percent imbalance here. i'm talking about education. i could be media entertainment news, i mean, we could go on and on here. i don't have

a whole lot of hope that the pendulum is going to go back in the other direction. matter of fact, these people double down, they double down on a proxy war in syria as a spoiler decade after it came to an end. and there's, there's no sign they're going to give up on ukraine until the last, the grading is dead. i have no hope the pendulum is going to move in the other direction. your thoughts got more in the pendulum go much. well, when i b. c, i never under apps. i never underestimate people. ok. i want to go to johnny. going to john paris. i think you're absolutely right about the work element in the cultural well, the universities, the media and so on. but the point that i was making and that george and alex were making, i think, is how it plays out on the international stage. and there it doesn't play out well, nor does the, another aspect of a germany that has disappeared. i think since the cold war is, of course moral had gemini go, you know, some people may have been an american during the cold war,

but the united states had a rather better claim i would say to some kind of moral to germany then than it does now it's gamble that all the way it's, it's spend till that moral capital with its own illegal was iraq yugoslavia, syria, you mentioned and so on. and it's also gambled it away because of course, you know, you know, you mentioned the pipelines. the relationship between the united states and european countries is the relationship between a mafia boss and pizza. paula owners, you know, if they, if you don't do what they say, they come round and smash up your windows. everybody in europe knows that the americans blow the pipelines. everyone in germany knows that the americans lose the pipelines yet. it's not their submissive. of course, they submissive, but they're submissive because they can't say it in public because the americans control them through violence. and they know that if they were to, to point the finger at the american having thrown up the pipelines, then the americans will come and blow up something else again. and that's all

basically while an extremely unpleasant position for the european governments. and when they can't get out for the time being, of course is the very opposite of any kind of moral gemini. so that also, i think is, is a cause for some kind of some glimmer of light on the horizon. so absolutely right . you know, george, i saw a couple of weeks ago, george mearsheimer on a doing a debate with called built that more on built. and it was in the canadian setting up i wasn't, i'm not mistaken. and mir shermer, which i had some differences with him. he's not a good debater, but he didn't say something that really resonated and shocked the crowd. he said american foreign policy is like god, villa. ok and but i mean, i'm just echoing what, what john was saying, right there. god, zillah, when god villas angry, there's no compromise. you don't talk with god villa george. yes. so that's a very good point. and this is really the, the problem is that what they get,

he is the us aggression us lines in order to justify aggression and above all, a content for the national still run and see all the other countries. and this is again, probably this issue of saw how, because russia and china, the leaders of the global movement on behalf of national. so relative, they say, well like a, you know, you, you are not a serious country. if you are allow others to determine your trade. fortunately, the europeans, stupidly having walked into native having walked into the european union, suddenly waking up and finding that i have no national serenity, that, that destined is being decided by others. and that they just been deluding them so that they somehow decide things for themselves. and i think when russia and china point this out, then you know, the rest of the world will listen. yeah. you know,

you are not a serious country if you allow all those to determine your foreign and security policy. and this is great. what has happened to europe. europe has just been subordinated itself completely to the united states. and yet they are not serious countries. you know, yeah, i mean, or jack out, i mean, or jack you're, if you're an outlier, if you're an outlier like serbia, you're in trouble. right? so you're one of these countries that's an outlier. that doesn't want to be subjugated by the european union. that doesn't necessarily want to be subjugated by russia, either you're trying to be in the middle, just like you get sloppy was during the cold war. and what happens to you while you get a situation? well, actually what alex now if you're going to and i make, i'm a group, i'm agree with you, alex. it's interesting because the west, traditionally since the 2nd world war is trying to show itself as a progressive in, in about, in a positive sense leader. as you know, and what a, what is possible. and so what the europeans have done is that they've, they've gotten under the captive wing of the,

of the united states and the collective west. doesn't that send a message to other countries in the world? do not go down that path. if you want to have control of your, your sovereignty, go ahead, alex. well, you know that the issue is, it's not a control of sovereignty anymore. it's a question of do you want the help on data? we saw that happened in 1999. and like there was, there's rumors about weapons being diverted from ukraine down the cost of down to boss here, right now, the situation on the cost of borders, not improving at all. whatever is being said, it was put back to world war one, gets lobby or serbia at the time, a 1000 times over pleated with the germans. the germans would make a request, the serbia or you can solve at the time. it's a yes, we'll do it. yes, we'll do it. yes, we'll do it until the request became so outlandish that they couldn't fulfill that request. and there we go. now you got toward the exact same thing that's happening in serbia right now. the requests are land just when it comes to constable and the push is on is what when americans decide to pull the trigger, it's going to be well alex or they'll when they decide to pull the trigger or

according to manual todd they already have, but they don't want americans to die. that's very interesting. they want everybody else to die for their goals. and i think they're outdated and very unwanted global ideology gentlemen. that's all the time we have. i want to thank my guests in paris, nice and in budapest, and i want to thank our viewers for watching us here. are to see you next time. remember the the oh, is your media a reflection of reality? in the world transformed? what will make you feel safer?

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