oh, i see ah ah ah hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered. i'm peter labelle . according to french, president emmanuel, look wrong. the continent must decide whether wants to be free or a vassal of china or the united states. but crone has never been known to be an original thinker. however, on this point he is obviously right. the real question is whether is europe still has the power to decide its fate at all?

ah, to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess. martin j american. he is an award winning journalist and commentator. and here in moscow we have to meet re bobbitt. she is a political analyst editor in his me, internet media project or a gentleman cross up rose in effect. that means he can jump in any time he want, and i always appreciate it or not start. i was martin in medic cash. i'm as i said in my introduction, martineau, i'm many, well, micron is not, you know, not the brightest guy. me doesn't come up with original ideas, but every once in a while he does say what every one knows his obviously to be true. ok. he counted so he's like this. even the odd guy on even days he totes the line on odd days tc let something out. ok, is it? it's probably the only reason why follow what he has to say, but he's absolutely right about this fit. when i find really interesting is the

very fact that he would say something like this, me this already too late, isn't it? go ahead. more on so many levels, you know, most of what's coming out and i'm a from mackerel and a few others. mouth is too little too late. i mean, i think is a rather fatuous archman actually to, to pitch the you somewhere. i, in the middle or at least needing require him to, you know, tire their colors to certain mass. would it be china or whether that be the u. s. a cli, every must big china. and, but you know, micron is always out. i mean, is really, is, is, is completely isolated and within the you, i disagree with you, when you say is not very graphic. he is quite bright. i think you mean politically of richard. but i think i intellectually is quite small guy and um, he's got an incredible amount of pressure on him at the moment. i mean, france is imploding and he car ready take a much more of these stretches. couple days ago there was a 1000000 people marching. i'm in paris at this sort of descent. i'm continues in,

are they the than the arguments from the unions and paris is the new matter on has to go, you're the proper. but really, the essence of this is the, is the ukraine war and why the west has pitched itself to met for macro on to make . these are in sundry comments to the rest of the you is really interesting because it shows that we are on a point now where there was a sudden full ring of arrogance and stoic, obsessive her. uh, focus towards the end game. as you liked to cool or would you like to was called me up of this phrase and go i'm, i think alias begin to realize that there actually isn't and, and guide absolutely credible on. there isn't a situation where they him want to win. i mean, his comments are really interesting because they full what something like a week after diva house starts on the liberator and upon european group in the ok. paulman said to him, he pays me, please look when losing and whether the battle with the russians, the he, you,

sanctions just aren't working. and there they amount to 0 over his words. but he added to that, i wrote about it in our school for to our see just a week ago in a russian sanctions aren't working. he added to that, that are not only are the sanctions, not, not, not work, but things much of the coming worse in our relations with russia. because you are conscious with lysine light, like at least not to trade with russia. but in fact, une 7 e u member states are actually impulsively less from russia. from the shore, the rest are include st. more electrical from it. if i say cataclysmic, error of judgement, if you're banging vishal table and you know, and, and making this battle chugs towards the ukraine, thou woe and you think of as an end game with the europeans to win. so i think this is flooring. oh says some, this arrogance this mindset also he along his own are changing yet, or because ring forced to reality is forcing them to, i deem also on the same interview that them across made. he, he also said, um,

i'm gonna tend to agree with barney and he's not stupid, he's politically stupid, but he's locked intellectually stupid. okay. could i make that report team a he also talked about, you know, what, you know, we, we always talk about even on this program. europe, but, you know, even he pointed out that europe is not united. he didn't used to work populace, but he was making reference to them. is that you know, of this conflict in ukraine up for so we have like break that we had the catastrophic gland merkel decision on immigration in 2015. this is one event after another, the ukraine situation, because the way the west is so vested into this, obviously ridiculous gambit. is it new or even saying mom, a greater divisions, divisions are always there, but they're just becoming more apparent in europe itself. and he's making reference obviously to eastern error thema, well just dirt gold, a one the use i was weak. the handle foreign ministers obese to any

a lot man is thorn yet require demand that for all chancellors stoltz to sheep deliver no but tanks to keep them in a could you imagine the just like 5 years ago are you with nass, you know, of the foreign ministers already through ania, the stony r, requiring socket pro all the chances of germany. you know, i'm talking about laquan. of course, he is not very much wiped in russia. some people called him even compassion, bro, full could he got, you know, will. and he kept saying, i'm going to quote which and i'm calling fujen. well, at the same time, sandy and 4 weeks up, dance to do, to the crate and gov. i mean, that was very strange. what was the book and about piece? well, at the same time, adrian oiled with a fire in you crate. oh, but you are absolutely right. if we look at the big picture, i think the best and that is this was provided by a manuel thought, a french thinker in his interview glove. he got all last week, he basically said,

oh, okay, of france and germany appeared to be full. i mean, they didn't anticipate that the russian special of the region in ukraine. why? because they were not installed and they didn't know. ah, to what extent o the u. k, the united states and poland have armed you gray. they didn't know. and then when a, when there had been some food it late and now we're finding out just clinical details . i mean the had of german 4 in services. we believe the spectator was caught, and you grain, you know what, when that attack started, but they had to sound special troops to get him out loud and keep the same story with france. you know, it was completely anchored bad. people from the french embassy, it in their, in kia for are now see you it, you know, there, there full lamp. s that 4 of which in them, in that terrible situation. ah, so basically it, ah, asked simona don't, rights e key is it?

as she says in that interview, on the axis in europe, shift that for all paris and berlin to washington london war. so, i mean, isn't that that disaster for you? rook, you know, to be ra by outside was us. we, the, ah, you know, also been at hostage or east european nationalism and who got it. what is dog is named? what about the west european? personally we can be surprised, they suppose, but then they kind of go back to martin here that will shame audibly hear a p in leadership, but me, i me, what did they call? okay, who did they blame? they had themselves to blame for all of this. i want a hat on to that here in the same were interviewed the microphone gave, are you, he talked about a crisis of capitalist, which was really quite interesting coming from a banker himself. and i tend to agree with him. but when he calls it, a crisis of conscience is the conscience of duma of democracies, which i get tired of that kind of verbage. but i would throw to both of you. no one

wants to say, but it's a crisis of ideology that you know, this is an ideological paradigm in it's working less and less for the majority of people in the country in the countries that rules over it. that is patently obvious . and the leadership has to say, well, it's a crisis of democracy. prices of, of capitalism. it's a crisis of ideology, mar. yeah, it is. i'm, if you, if you look at her within the prism of long, not just even mistakes for the ears. so it's actually even worse for brussel because brussels is, is a very young and experience and rather farrell projects i'm, it's very good at them getting 28 member states together and working out so new legislation full the let's windscreen wipers and the don't bigger picture stuff you know, big policy stuff like wars and conflicts. i'm is no very good is the so much division, not just a glance assist on eastern european countries on one side and franco german federalist on the other. the remote divisions of that,

i think this is when we talk about crisis of i didn't she, i think it, it did. this is what macklin is really touching on the nodes. but there is a lack of confidence in governance generally in west european countries. you know, a new crime was actually made as much worse because people are really starting to question on what sizzled about. i mean, how do we end up winning, even if we, when it evens people assigned to say, even if the you push russia out of ukraine and what, what? well, the spoils for us is incredible cynical people. it's incredible how people in mumble re london taxi drivers are realised that when energy prices go back down again, government does tend not to pass that saving back to consumers. they tend to snatch it, you that. so there's no win win for westerners and zone. the crisis of ideology is just becoming more and more. i'm obvious. you know, it's really interesting on the dementia. good up. her tanks issue it incredible that um the defense ministers would openly discuss this and make it public say,

i find that incredible, you know, because hooted must be laughing, his head off. you know, so we've got the stage now where festival we give credibility to the ukrainians for knowing how to run the run war. ha ha, you know, try and stop laughing at that. they don't know what they're doing that. but if we're gonna use some credibility tools to the cabal of advisors to, to choose alecky, you know, do they really know what they're talking about when they say the look, the civil put it in ukraine attacks the learning? sure. i agree with that. i'm wondering whether they've got some deal lined up with some middle eastern buyer or, or, or as arena recently. african leaders now start to point out that these, this equipment start to turn up in a central african republic. sir, is it already about tanks if it really to we can really answer my bullshit and tell her is twitching a lot. when i hear the stories about tangs, but if at 8 o'clock, small tanks are fungible yet. but if it is about tax, you know,

physical zalinski has another people to, to, to run these 3rd sets or to operate in these tanks. but an interesting how biden's back, i'm from sending abraham taste, which are probably the best tanks in the world. i'm to ukraine and the excuses is come up with, which is probably annoying the europeans a lot. you know that it really is. this war really is about our winners and losers . and europe is just a loser over and over again. whatever the story was me and aren't, but the abrams tanks just to kind of go along with i just sat here. i mean, i would end up in it in an, in a show room in moscow. i mean, he would think there would be sold. they'd be sold, okay, there, man, for i know to list all the articles the, it's, it's, it's all b s because you know that the biden is saying, oh, you know, these things are quite complicated on that other right fuel in ukraine and this training involved for goodness sake, these tanks rolled into iraq in a matter of minutes in the, into the desert in a slightly, at least yet to ukraine. it's b. s were being, were being lied to by the americans. again,

i think micron to team could it rescue just want mine a point to put it here, which hurts me, i think is the on the e. m leader who's prepared to stand up and ashley said is to the americans the you're really tranquil, the whatever eyes you know, we are, the ones are going to pay the biggest price it. and ownership of tanks is interesting because you latest now, i think a stones who admit openly that they don't actually want wisdom countries or europe to actually when reward ukraine national would have on certainly germany, us, won't that. but germany was where it believes is a can what when a was finally of a tricia that slowly weekly, went out in the year after go to a hard break and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion. and so real estate with our team, ah, ah ah

oh, a will not be forced to work on. we will not be there any kind of pre legal power i was saying, therefore that you not, you have to take that by force a bunny so that you can do is pick all the dimensions and i'm only happy, i'm begging for all kinds of fees. i'm willing to do it, you know, cranium, g o, d m a r d a. she ship a control in particular bored. so she's, she'll need to be at the mo, the, the system will only be me. i'm not saying what's a machine?

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a welcome back across stock where all things are considered on fuel. well, this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news. ah okay, let's go back to d. m a here in moscow. the one of the things i think is interesting here, since we're talking about mccrendon, we can throw in who i called. um a sergeant schultz here in, in there seems to be concerted effort. i've talked about this many times at the london in washington. really, just want to get rid of schultz. a deal like social democrats never have, but mccarran, inn, and shelter. if you with he watched them observe them carefully, is the only 2 european leaders that are actually thinking about the day after the week after the month after the year after this conflict comes to it. you see he comes in there every all the time. because in i him, that's an implicit, if not the, the way i read an explicit admission that this is just

a failed strategy, the sooner we get it over the better for everyone. dema. well, i think you're right, do, benson ideology or you know, the draw, understand how the french and the germans work themselves into this mass. the keyword is i your would, you know, i remember you. his memoirs, andre alexandra ogden, was brand new at wised, $4.00 and $4.00 to said, why is it? and he was asked up, why did pairs of gold been gayness? and, and though our nissan of argona was, hadn't been informed about, i mean, he quoted dropped with the one. and only basia had asked cobra one to deal with. i mean, and on grove of said, i mean is dead, stop the conversation could and, and the arctic sound of wagons up in his explanation role that basically browser was a hostage, glad you old. he thought that he had the good, you know, because of his obligations before that formula psychology before that the murdered aggregate leader iraqi in the same way. so it, it, germany, petition said,

becoming horst, it is ideology. you can't imagine. i mean, i read drummond press every day. if, if there is a shingo descent like hint of dull, should we sand arms to go great. immediately. that person is school, which unfair stare against france, you know, he's on the payroll of law school. how do these a petro dollars fee when you're or kids, you know, all of these insult and terrible statements, and the, and the, i think this is a very important the feature of that and it, there in the white 3. it was a roster of that that he did well, he drum and yet thou and it frost, unless it's then they mix. ah, they mix up what it takes of morals, if you are a gains, save your arms. you great. you are an moral person. you know that they, they, they make the same if they basically use the same tactics, asking the 30 percent of the forty's. if you are not for germany, if you're not what, he'd, what you are, you have betrayed your love, your,

your treat. so basically you're absolutely right that the, these people down to step out what a mess they gave themselves people that might, charles has been regen his feet, or one said that he didn't, i didn't, he didn't have them there. but what about the morality to both of you about a prolonging of war that is already come to an end? i mean in the, the, the ab destruction of infrastructure, the suffering of civilians and this loss of soldiers made, it is unconscionable to continue this conflict away they have. but this is where we are. i want to talk about at other european character here just a barrel. i'm always happy when he talks, as he give lenny to reactive blendy. this guy is going to go down in history. okay, is probably speaking more unders than any one else in such a short amount of time. martin burrell said, incredibly, he said, i want to stress this to everyone. incredibly, he said the following. the west must keep army ukraine. because moscow defeated

napoleon and hitler, i mean this is why don't know what guy did his t, this guy is dropped in of albert would not be a clue, like we not to wrap this up because his greed tells us what is this guy talking about? why does he have the position that he does? it's inner look. there's only one silver lining in this cloud, which is i can assure you of to work in brussels will of me is that most you senior officials and e presto taken very seriously. i mean, his position was never serious position. you know this talk to you to promote it where when the brits run run that particular circus see the ideology and brussels was whenever take when we caught take e foreign policy read says the so it's really important that we get some 3rd right politician and no one pos, no real cloud neural gravitas in, he fits thought bill. he's a socialist for men training country and especially just yada, yada, yada. no one really takes grew seriously,

but i think to go back to macro. and so smith, langler st. jude safe back on thursday. and mack on his way to pull the speaker and he has respect around the world and i'm surprised him picks up on something else. he said just in the last couple of days, he said he states it but and this feeds into this, this failed state ideology. idea that you've come up with which i agree with, which is that because we, we don't have a singular ideology with our, my jealousy that i'm on could even re take serious in the longer term that he does not have any ideals your tool and beyond brussels. but it micron said we need to reach out to the russians, we need to actually understand way that they think and, and actually asked them, well, what would be your defense m guarantees in you cried if we were ever to talk about that as amazing as an amazing mission that we've got position where our own ideas are complete. sega, we are not winning, and we call sandy and gay around. people are suffering either, but then almost the same day macro also makes

a state that we what we should increase our supplies to ukraine. asked what ukraine's less either what, what the hell is going on here? it is lovely. i wasn't going to be able to really focus so much. i'm a grown illness, but i think you bring up a very good one. i wanted to explain to my frustration. okay. i was very dismissive, i'm in my introduction, i, i, you kind of pushed back. i've kind of agreed with you. i mean, he's not intellectually, he is bright, politically, he is stupid, but i guess what my frustration is here, being a successor to de gaulle, which every french president compares himself to de gaulle. he's not a leader. see, that's my gripe is that a leader? he can say the right things, but if he don't have any power that grab at taos, the careers, more of that office, the opiate in air, that historical standing then it really irritates me to the point of being dismissive, i think i've explained myself your thumbs. yeah. but he, but the thing is, is not great either, but i am,

he is the president froze is going to load least 3 is an office and he's beginning to see, but he's not gonna make it is beginning to see that the e u project, which he'd like to be the crescent of in 2029. and he's the favorite in my view to become the president. there won't be anything left of the e mail to 1st of $29.00. it will be a crackpot lunatic. you know, i'm out fear i'm over run by far. i repeat the european parliament and everybody at that point, we're looking to the leisure to streamline it. so in one respect to the frank war is pushing us to generally ukraine was winning on so many levels in the week. we always talk on the program about ukraine war beyond the ukrainian borders. and this is another way of where russia is thinking long term and thinking, you know, the e u is definitely crumbling, as really fall into pieces. you've got people disagreeing with each other about how to move forward. mostly want to win. legend if it is a fear of reprisals, revenge attacks from, from russia, the americans are pretty smart and realize that as a possibility they don't want to send a tank. so the long, long ranger,

but michelle's fair keeping of it, you know, let europe pay the price for all of this. um, but to macros, sees m failure on doom and despair. and this is why he's now banging the drum and talking about the possibility of talking to russia about peace. i mean, if you look at her, it on sale that he ology, i'm on people. i mean, the actual, the 40000000 citizens that make up the you that are going to be part of this at some point where we talk about european elections next year. and company is time will match runs policies, some failing and strikes become even bigger than i am. if a micron is now farmers gone strike and they'll stop calling for him to be live. so message to kill it from an outsider, looking in, i mean, you know, dimmer, europe is not for, i mean it's populate. the european union's population is larger than near lighted states g d p is larger if you look at collectively here, but he doesn't have its own google. it doesn't have its own amazon, not that i think they're great things. again, they don't have their own facebook,

but it is if i do, that's a great thing. but i need to, i mean, from an outsider, looking him if he, they have everything that's necessary to be a great power. however, they've chosen not to. it is a craven choice and i think that the historians will be very curious how they got to where they are today. go ahead, demon are forced to slide all the jap, sorry. are those are the story with mark roll up. one of the few why states that he made in the last weeks was a. he said that, that you, dan, from a car she ation after your brain ends up russia and we will capitol taken 3 called russia security concerns. yeah. and what happened all their french brass, all the german press unleashed halem. he immuno at how daniel but emanuel, this yellow radishes, security concerns. and then they ask, why is why shall frighten you? grade wise rush without giving up will. because if you are not going to bacon, took out our security, consider it, but they gave us had left

a mark the name hang on here. what, what is frustrating for, for that? because with the, the legacy media, mainstream media, the never give context, but i think all of us were talking until we were all blue in the face that the russians gave them that opportunity in december of 2021. we need security guarantees, we need to sit down and it's getting to a point of going beyond the, you know, know what, no, no point. and they didn't believe it. i read it in anyway. and you're absolutely right. the about the context. i mean, among thought in his interview, she says, yeah, it depends on the lance that you're using. if you just the point, you're lanced your grain in february for thousands. thank you. one assorted without acquainted you. you will see russian troops moving from east to west, but if he was no mild and if you take the time like 10 years when he has 15, yes, you see lot so, so just warren pro west to each jo, see nato expanding to 1999 through ball and the czech republic, and con,

agreed to 1000, fought at the age of the baltic. republics. romania suddenly became a very forced out can fit the what's russia? so if you take the big picture, russian salaries, auntie, you know, they're not a start, yelled the mass, they're responding to this huge wound meant a all western grew strong west to east that took place in the last 10 years. so again, these people back won't next and because they lack want ext. uh, the only way they can defend their position is to just to lash out that any kind of hold. you can't imagine what's going on in europe right now. i mean, oh, all the people walk objections to this, they immediately label. oh goodness, at best far right. yeah. you know a song while there's just because she said that she agreed with an arctic india folk was magazine that the other night states and china brought it from this

situation. while europe was losing. she was lame as she was called names by thousands of people. you know, when tweet and elsewhere and the reality is, you know, i'm just go give gov or stein doc for all my other, your focus magazine. he basically as grew up that the biggest, when a strong this mass there 1st the, you asked, you fancy robins there also european defense companies such as b, a, b, e, g in the u. k. a down arc or meet lip. that's not the forget, you know, the economic interest here a and leave was if i, you rush you, i bide, we by leave that to boy who benefits from this catastrophe. okay. and we just did jazz all the time. we have one thing my guess in medication mosque i, when i would make our viewers for watching us here, our p. c. a next time, remember russell's ah ah,

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