this worse and no action, freedom of expression is a fundamental part of democracy. but to what is legal is not necessarily appropriate, but in books as a whole, it's many is a deeply disrespectful act. i want to express my sympathy for all muslims who are offended by what has happened in stockholm to day. freedom of expression is part of democracy, fair enough, but incitement of hatred, awhile and stalwarts, a particular group is criminalized, and sweden, nevertheless swedish bullies approved to permit, and it's not like they didn't know what would be going on there. as a prior, sir kia cancelled a planned visit by the swedish defense minister to ankara and salmon sweden's ambassador over their failure to restrict the protest. it was the 2nd time in just a month when sweden's ambassador has had to answer to turkish authorities 2 weeks ago. it's related to a stun doing which occurred as a group hung a mannequin of turkey as president in stock hall. little judge did it in this too. we often watch the p k. case demonstrations on the streets and in stock home and

warn about them to be shown the. the presence of the parliaments were going to pay us a visit, and our speaker of the assembly rejected that visit. is it on the same day as the command burning protest hundreds of acts of his march in the swedish capital in support of the kurdistan workers party. they p k k. and even though the group is considered it's iris organization in the european union, it's supporters protested legally with an official berman. all this is happening at a time where the north country desperately needs on career votes would be able to join nato. esther kia is the only alliance members still holding back. it's verification on korea, one sweden, so clam down on alleged terrorist and has also submitted an extradition request for those and sweden with links to the p k. k. in june last year, finland sweden, enter key, assigned a trilateral deal, guaranteeing that sir kids demands would be addressed in return for lifting its veto. but that hasn't happened yet. and with a long history of failing to fulfilled their geopolitical commitments. now once

again, the trustworthiness of western contrasts is being tested. those are the hour's top stories for more up to the minute use updates, head over to r t dot com. and don't forget to follow us on odyssey rumble and gab for more. thanks for tuning in. we'll see you back at the top. the hour. ah ah ah, ah, it's amazing to see people share, right. because as men, we talk about being strong unami, everybody wants to be strong, man, but you know, we might be physically strong, but you know, are we emotionally weak? my son got incarcerated here. and i learned will. my biggest fear was and he goes

back annuity had on the board about memory. one of my sons, grey phrases chose policy. and he said, your son used to say he wish you could come to prison just so he can be with you. in that moment i said, this is what you've left your child and this woman and your family to, to do they say, you said if you are thinking you is dead, you never too old to find out peace with your children, which yourself. mm hm. this prison is me into more like always call a blank canvas and

a beautiful landscape. mm. i think that there are a lot of things that we can accomplish here. if give an opportunity. mm hm. ah, everybody's watching everything they do. everywhere they go everywhere they gather, they have to really, really, really b up up or to make this happen. they have to worry about being put in the whole. they have to worry about being moved to another prison, depending on how hard they push. they don't wanna be too vocal because they don't want to be signal down as a security risk because they're being vocal about something that they want to learn . they can move them at any time. they could be take, you know, just rolled up and moved to another facility at any time for any reason. there's nothing i can say or do about it. mm. i'm pretty sure they still, doubtless,

all the way up to this point. but you can't argue with our results. that's the thing that you can't argue. cameras in every classroom, by soon as we got a classroom camera are coming up in because it was like, okay, well we got to see exactly what's happening. but as good. not only put a camera in here, you can come and sit in our classroom. when you learn to with maturity, think capacity tooth, ones, intelligence without the guidance of another. well, cat is conveyed is that no one, not even a monarch for making impede alignment of the public eye. okay. okay. um i thought it was, i thought it was difficult read pull. i thought it was the record. i mean, that's what i graph of from it. you know, i'm not enough. i'm right or wrong. this is my so and it's not about right or wrong

is about interpretation. no one can say of your interpretation is wrong. we don't have a manual can here to be able to ask them, what did you mean by this? and you have english scholars literary scholars will try to explain to you what somebody who live 20300 years ago literally meant when they don't know what am i gathering from this? and at the end of the day, that's all that really matters is what you're gathering, right? because there's a lot of people here who are under the idea that you are kind of exceeded our boundaries as prisoners. if somebody is lying to you, as somebody is a guy, i've always been so scared about how i've looked on the death of corey, how him being a young college kid and me being just, you know, some hoodlum from tacoma,

how anybody would be able to kind of see the person that i've become or my manager has something that's always been a fear of mine. nobody was really ever give me a chance. ah, washington state does not have pool wiping up a role in the early ninety's. what it replaced parole with was determinant sensors. in other words, i'm going to send you to a period of time and it cannot be reduced, doesn't matter what you do in prison. that's your sense. washington has started to figure out that system is not very jobs that doesn't work. and so they've started to bring parole back, actually brought parole back for sex. the families and the other group is juvenile is kemati, had committed the crime. 61 days earlier,

2 months passed his 18th birthday. he would have been a juvenile, can he be eligible for parole to the problem with punishment? the problem with setting a life without parole sentence. for somebody who was 18 years old at the time in the crime is you don't know who he's going to be 20 years. ah, it was never really something that i was intending to have while i just got curious . i because there was a lot of people who are actually going home to crunch. the 1st thing i did is i kinda started writing letters system attorneys about what was the possibility. but then a week, you know, he sent me a letter and told me to call he said that during my clinic it will be something that he will be willing to do. today we filed a clemency petition with the washington state clemency board. its

a formal request asking for a commutation of commodity sense, asking the governor to change his life sentence to essentially credit for time sir, to let him go. the different family members that have been to person and seen him even some that went in spoke with him. different people would tell me he's changing. he's trying to be a better person, but their plan wasn't ready to accept then. ah, i had thought about reaching out to him. i start to write them and then i throw it away. i did that probably, maybe 6 or 7 times. and then i just said, okay, forget it. ah, probably 6 months after that, kimani send me

a message. i read it. me rated a couple times over and over. i let my family members read it. my grandmother, she raised me from the time i was 6 months old and she always instilled in as a spirit of forgiveness. and he had asked me for my forgiveness in his message that he said to me. and so i told him i said, ah, i forgave you a long time ago, i didn't, i'm not going to forget what happened. and so, but i forgave you. as i understand the challenges you may have had growing up and i'm not excusing her behavior. but i forgive you, i said not only in my forgiving you for what you did. i have to forgive you to allow myself to lavon and to heal.

ooh, while willie was in prison, his daughter was murdered. she was 3 and a half his oh, when she was murdered, the lady that beat my granddaughter to death. i forgiven her. she didn't have the tools to be a mother. she grew out in such a violent atmosphere and was in a gang when she was in lavin. and so when she had my grand daughter, she wasn't capable of showing love or she didn't have. she didn't know how. and so in an angry drug, addicted rage, she beat my granddaughter today and i'll always miss the nyah and i would be 23 years old now that i want her to have a 2nd chance. you know? because i feel like she never had a chance. i remember when i was in olympia fighting for this bill. i mean i was

a mother trying to fight for her son and i for people to get out and carroll. but all these victims came in the 2nd year, and i thought, you know, well after the victims who you know, and i thought, you know what, maybe next time we go to fight for this bill. a be a victim supporting the bill where they got to say i'm a victim and i am against this bill. i'm going to be, i'm a victim and i'm for this bill. now, we are in this dichotomous, either victim or you're a perpetrator. it's not true. victims are perpetrators, perpetrators of victims. and we have to get to a place where we understand we're all victims of the sister. i've had a son who was murdered and i have a family that had different ideas about what justice meant and what they wanted to come out of that process. and i think that had, i not had the experience that i've had it with the black prisons caucus over 20 years. ringback i may or may not have had the same feeling about that,

but i was able to immediately forgive. it requires that we look historically like we contextualize what has happened. so that it's not just, i did something to you or you did something to me. there's other environmental things that are pushing our behavior, impacting our behavior. each of us has the capacity, the unfortunate capacity to do terrible things. if the wrong set of circumstances are presented, we need to get to a place in this country where people kind of tone for their actions and where the hand of forgiveness can be extended. the prisons are not institutions that detail. the good things that happen in prison. but every once in a while, prison official recognizes that an individual has accomplished something that

deserves being talked about in commodities case. a prison official told me that commodity had done more in terms of race relations in prison. and anybody who had ever worked at that prison, that included professional staff. ah, we submitted our petition with a great deal of hope because we felt that commodity had satisfied somewhat vague standard of showing extraordinary circumstances. merit jean a change in his sentence. i think that is more about them being able to see the command that i've become and not the commander that i watch. and so i think that they deny me as because they haven't got past that point. me have a prepaid call. you will not be charged for this call. this call is from an inmate

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oh no no no changes. i do not. i don't know for wash myself in prison in. ah made it worse marcy. i don't want to lose faith allowing me to tear more along. what you dorn, because you're helping the next person get out of jail and can choose to stay out of jo to be a bell. her father saw brother personal society ah, global shadow only you lock the hardware. which of my interest is in people like commodity who've worked on rehabilitation and who've been told by the system, you will never get out. it does not matter what you do in prison, it will make no difference in terms of where you die. i want to be able to say yes,

it will, because i believe that somebody like humanity makes our community a better community. ah, this is that they're all on the same dis in different stages of right so. so this one, yes. for that one's really, really right. and there are several that turn proposal just different varieties i was released in june. i was at work release until november 5th. during that time i worked went to school and now i am still on monetary community. gusty and i live with my family. i'm just trying to, ah,

your now ah, free will is it's all free or is not equitable. so if you have all the resources to have 5 options open to you, and i have the resources to have to open to me, how free am i to really choose? and as long as society davies up opportunity and resources where a certain kind of person has 5 and another kind as to for nothing except for superficial characteristics that are outside of an individual's control. it will be society's fault that prisons are fool a society. the state, the government institutions, all these words that we're, that are big and an amorphous that, that we're trying to,

trying to make in this concrete thing that has power over us is us. and we are complicit in our own captivity as long as we don't know that they are us with how was your day about the war? why are we get about just is right. what is justice i'm with while come to mind when we hear the word, justice person with anything more co room with

her. okay. was o corruption, co roma person from a friend operation? oh mm hm. i don't wanna veil, but you guys are being a little bit negative, right? because justice is related to all the bad either has has happened to was right. so yeah, of course we can we go with the negative, right? because of all of these there. i mean, go room. well, been in a corner, most of us have negative experiences when it comes to just do a justice system. yeah. ready okay, so, so let me, let me make kind of rephrase that. when i, when i think up just is i think done this classroom by year and, and in th, by, in general with all the class is doing. if, if the, if during the church justice i be sam born in life,

there was something that was missing from ourselves that were duly, that we never had. right. so by i was gonna pitching the chair is something new, something that can empower. i think he's doing the church just mm hm. jesse says the penalty or reward for one's actions. i say penalty or reward because justice can be serving a good way or so. i just want to make sure that everything that i do understand is wrong, eventually come back on me, some shape or form. and that to me is chest is the good things that i do. we've actually come back to me in a go and, and bad things i do actually come back to me in a bad way. it's about integrity for me or so i just think that justice is always watching justice is it is in a thing dislike. you know, if you, if you break the laws of the lance, you'll be locked up. that's a small part of justice. but justice is even bigger than that. justice should

control to the things that you'd normally nobody else is watch. an awesome justice has to be individualized. justice has to ask, how is the community harms and how can we make it better? and what role should this individual have in making that community better? yes, that's a tough one. i'm not certain knowledge. no one justices justice . i'm not sure if i thought ever thought about that much just to our part in the system in the next part, how to do their part the the lawyers on both sides in the judges. but i would still feel good about the bar. i did a this is matt

about a prison education program and to be very clear, it is not about the department of corrections at all. they just geographically happened to be oppressed there. they could be oppressed anywhere else in the community. ah, it's a trip because we got some class issues going on. there are many of us who do not believe that people are in prison, could have the answers to our problems. ah, we do not believe that the people sleeping under the bridge can have the answers to their reality. ah, because we have people with ph. d and master's degrees, who then have been certified to do that work. and they have been doing it over and over and over and over and over again. i'm in a system where we've had a 10 year plan that is now turned into a 20 year plan. they just change

a name and it's gang. those brothers, no gang. so for all the classes that we offer to some, we can't wait just for people in prison, aaron's children have the solutions to our problems and what we will do it 10 years . if we don't attend to this, we'll be visiting some mom. i will put that on your babies, but it's really the truth. not think it's not true blue because they got the deal. see the deal t. the bed were the chechen center, the juvenile system, everybody's in the business. ah, and then wait for the education system to fail. our babies so that they go in there . mm. that i don't want to blame deal. see, because it took a whole lot of institutions to get them there. we bail, we fail them in spite of that they've got the flu.

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