to learn more, we came here to help us to speak to victor a couple of years ago, she ologist was devoted his entire life to the topic. it is a fascinating at times dangerous and very important job. a need to resist. is this impulse of wanting to direct a double standard form of international contact towards south africa address relations with russia as a core corporation beyond western if influence a security service. warranty is a corruption investigation into its own ministry of defense, y accusations in place in food prices. no recent contracts with claims main intelligence. it is peace told russia to buy time for keys on the

battlefield, but not to find a diplomatic solution with . hello, i welcome to i think, and i feel robot thing live from much go. i'm not a mommy and it's great to have you with us. let's take a look at today's builder. during a joint press conference with her, russian counsel suffer for this foreign minister has underlined the countries independence and address it's relations with russia. we as africans need to resist, is this impulse of wanting to direct a double standard form of international conduct toward us that what i do is okay for me, but you cannot do it because you are developing country or you are africa. that is an abuse of international practice. when us have you immune your school,

africa itself must determine the ways to solve problems on their continent. we share a partnership for accelerated growth and wish south africa speedy development. we talked about conflict resolution in african, for example, in countries like molly, sudan and mozambique. the international community is obligated to support the paths african countries have chosen for themselves. russia will contribute to the resolution of conflicts in flash points across africa, including the training of local peacekeepers. so are these, though? holder was out of the conference in pretoria and assures miss ripple at the beginning of this meeting between the 2 foreign ministers. one of the things that the south african foreign minister mentioned right from the get go was the, i actually, the neo colonial, the anti neo colonial, rather legacy of the soviet union. and the amount of aid that the soviet union gate africa throughout the 20th century. she said that she wants warm relations between

russia and south africa and african south africa to continue to develop in the way they have since that time as well. we also heard at this press conference about what exactly they are going to do to deep in cooperation. we heard that specifically in the sphere of atomic energy and infrastructure. those are 2 areas that russian south africa are going to deepen their cooperation in the future lever . i've also mentioned that russia is dedicating itself to a further helping peacekeeping efforts in conflict zones across africa as well. now another thing we heard what that was mentioned here were upcoming joint military exercises between russia, south africa, and china. this is something that washington has taken issue with. it's called it provocative, but both foreign ministers basically said that every sovereign nation has the right to decide who it's going to conduct a joint military exercises with. so obviously that's that stance that washington has taken on these upcoming join. military exercises has displeased that these 2

countries, as well as likely other other countries who find themselves in the same position. let's take a listen to what they said. this williams. we do not violate any norms of the law of the sea. so i don't understand the mixed reaction from the medium. america believes that only its forces are allowed to conduct exercises anywhere in the world. so they are engaged in exercises within the framework of in those strategies, right next to china. and this does not cause a mixed reaction in the media. our exercises are transparent and russia, china, and south africa has made all the information public was blows. a asked them about these claims by the united states that russia is somehow weapon ising food, and that the actions of russian president vladimir putin are somehow ah, harming the african economy. i was able to ask both foreign ministers about that as well as the kind of pressure that washington has been putting on african countries

that dare to say that they're going to have warm relations or even cordial relations with the russian federation in terms of um, the south african foreign minister, she focused really on the grain deal, the ukraine grain deal. and the fact that i'm, that most of that grain is not even going to the countries that need it the most, it's actually going to western europe. so the south african foreign minister actually called on journalists to find where exactly that grain is going. she said, it would be really nice to see some sort of investigative report into that. to understand why that's happening. as for sir gay leverage, he laid the blame squarely at the feet of the west, slits at the west. let's take a list of what he said. for many of them good. we have repeatedly provided confirmed facts. proving the problems in the food markets began long before russia's military operation. according to the us, we turn everything into weapons, oil, gas, sports, and so on. i handed over

a text today that sets out the situation in the food markets. after the you and head proposed the initiative, we immediately agreed. and now we've implemented 2 agreements about the grain deal, which is somehow being implemented. but everything goes to the you and not to poor countries. as for russian, fertilizers and grain, the un didn't help the west remove obstacles to our exports. and indeed, there is no line about food and grain in the sanctions. but there are points about bands for ships to enter ports where a ban on our banks using swift. but the west continues to insist that food is not under sanctions. all the important issues are being sidelined, those now and surprisingly on the number of topics that were discussed was of course, the ukraine conflict, which russia said it's always open to negotiating an end to war, at least a ceasefire. and it's actually a key of that laugh rov explained which has a flat out reject it any sort of negotiating. and he pointed to the fact that vladimir zalinski had

a made it so that it would be illegal in ukraine for ukrainian officials to actually have any sort of negotiating going on with the russian side. so we heard a bit about that, but that's basically a rundown of the main topics that were discussed at this press conference here in pretoria. in a big sway african opinion, the us is set to send it's un envoy to the continent. the announcement follows a recent visit by the us treasury, secondary to zombie, an senegal where she attempted to portray moscow as a troubling issue for africa. which is were in with initiation of food, is exacerbated food insecurity and caused until suffering. and the global economic kid wins caused by the actions of a single man present who is creating an unnecessary drag on african economy. america meant right now,

he's trained to rescue dirt here in the african continent, and sometimes to change the opinion of the grand countries in about the war in the ukraine. this is the 1st thing. you see mozambie, curry and kenya and other countries are the quality for countries are part of the members of the security council of the united nation. so this is the 1st reason that the secretary, is it, mozambique 2 of the most of the other countries to, to try to change did the opinion african government trust in the russian or russian government? this is all right. can say right now because the western countries are coming here are coming here in the have to confirm a few years ago and tried to make some things. so in to say, we have for development of the piece and etc. but we don't see anything under

carriers. we see always wars in some parts of the african continent. so this is the 1st reason we're, we are look for the other friends. the fact wagner group have confirm that it has repeatedly called to medical special service agents who are trying to organize a fascination attempt is a good response to our, to request. more than once, we've caught armed groups and employees of the american special services who tried to harm the wagner group and organized assassination attempts. each time we gave them a kick in the butt, fed them lunch and dinner, and let them go in peace. there are plenty of video materials. birth lie last our senior correspondent morale go 0. go to see how kit us a little bit more about the wagner statement on these latest revelations.

well, the question that i see post to him was, why now is it that the united states has chosen to label or designate wagner as a criminal organization and a mr. precaution, the head of the private military company. wagner said that the question touched him, that he had a lot to say about it. he started off by saying, look, what is good and evil, full for the united states. anything that goes against it's interest is evil for russia. anything that goes against hymns, it's interest is also evil. he said, you can play double speak all you want, but when you look at hard facts, russia in the united states are sworn enemies. and also, if you look at reality at what has happened rather than talk and discuss, writes and good and evil. he says the united states remains the only country in the world to have dropped to, to nuclear weapons on cities. civilian cities had started hose the world over rock,

livia, syria, many other countries he listed, and he said, look, we'll walk in a has done. he's sca around the world and try to put out these foss started by the united states. he says, wagner is merely a company, a private military company, it isn't a state. but in the mind of the united states, i, it is a criminal organization. mister precaution, said that if wagner is a criminal organization, and if we go by what both sides have done to wagner in the united states, that would make the united states a criminal syndicates. he says that the, the wagner couldn't touch. he went on to the, to mentioned how it is that the united states rules. he says the united states exists because of, i don't fair share of the world economy that it controls from money that belong to other countries. but that the united states ends up with, he says, look, look, any country, any entities, state that resists the united states,

is labeled on democratic, eventually criminal. any state that confronts or entity that confronts the united states becomes a terrorist state or terrorist entity. he said, look, we have no problem with the united states. we won't, we don't seek to take what is american. what we want is to keep what is russia, and that he says, we're not prepared to give up. he went on into details, as was mentioned, that there have been assassination attempt by us sponsor groups as well as bio employees of united states intelligence agencies aimed against the wagner group. he says, there are plenty of with videos and his organization is in possession of plenty of videos that would prove this range as indeed what thanks to lots are for bringing us up to speed that will suit against it. no doubt, stay safe out there. just he claims

a security service has lost an investigation into corruption within the ministry of defense and what media claims to be the worst corruption scandal. so in gulf, the armed forces, since the beginning of the ukrainian conflicts you graham media are accusing the defenseless you buying over price food frequently. and so just having signed and deal at prices $2.00 to $3.00 times higher than current rates. for instance, eggs, which cost $19.00 you a sense in shops will bought for $0.46. the deal fired in december is estimated to be worth $30000000.00. ukraine defacement st minister alex, save. i like say arisen cough, denied the allegations, but announced the ministry would launch an internal old it all, it is kind of morphing as well. we have that denial from the ukrainian defense minister, but this comes on the heels of yet another scandal. now it's now being reported

that the national anti corruption bureau as just arrested, the minister of infrastructure in ukraine. and it is reported that he may have received a $400000.00 bry in order to secure contracts for machinery and equipment. so this is what the ukranian president recently sat on the issue of corruption. yeah. what you, i want this to be clear. there will be no return to what used to be in the past to the way various people close to state institutions or those who spent their entire lives chasing a chair used to live. i think law enforcement officers who protect the law, the interests of the state, and ensure justice now is comments about what's gone on in the past are quite interesting. when you look over the pandora papers, it's become obvious that zalinski got filthy rich as a result of these corrupt practices. but now as zalinski is making these comments,

and as a big conference is being held in here denouncing the issue of corruption, it's important to understand the context. there is rising discontent in the united states. the u. s. public is not thrilled about the fact that their tax dollars are being spent by the billions and what appears to be a very, very corrupt country. here's some of what we've heard from us. officials regarding the billions and billions of dollars being handed to kiya by washington dash, one of the things that i really was focused upon. in fact, i raised it was present zelinski himself. i said look, if you have a scandal, if you miss of mr. misuse these, these resources, it's gonna, it's gonna st cloud that who supported in the us and he got that. and then we had a later meeting with a lot of their defense officials and government officials. they're doing detailed software, they're keeping track of every spare part that comes into the country. we're sending over an inspector general from the pentagon this month. so i came away very

impressed by the level of accountability. now some of the very same officials that were in that room reassuring this figure from the united states. so there was no wasting of us taxpayer money are now under arrest and it appears they were doing just that. and the details when one looks into the history of ukraine, what's going on there are pretty damage. we basically have the world corruption index in 2021 coming out and saying ukraine was a 122 out of 180 countries. when it came to corruption and the more you look into it and there is quite a bit of concern among the u. s. fabric about the fact that billions and billions of dollars are being given to a country that is notoriously corrupt. and one looks at the recent statements by zalinski and these, you know, convening of ukrainian officials to make statements and bound the podium against

corruption. you could almost look at that as an attempt to reinvent ukraine's image . because beneath the surface, people realize there is a very big problem and that lots and lots of money is being poured into kia by washington with very little accountability. the question now is, how long will the american public continue to tolerate this? we do have a new congress in washington dc. the republicans have taken control of the house of representatives. public opinion seems to indicate there is growing discontent around this issue among americans. so we'll have to see how this develops. cave used pieces in russia and ukraine that were held in bella. ruth, surely off of the conflict, began to bind time for your time with no intention of a diplomatic solution. i was admitted by the head of ukraine's man in tones dark to it in his needs. this interview, the main task was set for mister crave was to delay the process in order to buy

time since he personally knew to people in the negotiation process, who represented the russian side. to get more on this story now we are joined by our correspondence the soonest, steve, to have you in the studio again. so little details about this, this latest statement ledger was, this is quite a revelation. here we have a scene, you ukrainian official, openly admitting that it was participating in peace talks with russia in bad faith . calves defense intelligence chief, has said that he tasked the negotiated a. he sent a dentist crave with heading to bella luce and just 4 days after the launch, the special military operation to delay those discussions. now he was very clear that it was in order to buy time. but what did he mean by this? well, korea had been asked to use his contacts, to slow down the talk, so the ukraine armed forces could take action to quote, repel the enemy. remember,

this came a time when western countries with drawing up sanctions packages against russia and were discussing the supply of weapons to ukraine. yet ukraine security forces seemed so concerned with a peace talks that they kidnapped and killed korea. dumping his body on the side of a road in the ukrainian capital. now of course, all of this comes as ukraine and their western packers accuse russia of not acting in good faith at the negotiating table. he's a reminder of what they've said. i am extremely concerned how russia has been acting at the negotiating table. actually, i don't trust what russia is doing at all. any negotiations at need to be real. they need to be a meaningful. they can't just be a fig leaf full russian re armament. and for the recruitment of soldiers and moscow, of course, reject such allegations and accuses ukraine's packers of mischief. and let's not forget that a russian cease mar proposal for the orthodox christmas was rejected earlier this

month. so all the sky goings, i it doesn't seem like the collective west wants peace. i mean all these tactics are they, are they in fact fix for these war games? the thing will x, remember that it is a been alleged that this piece process has been sabotaged. by the direct intervention of western leaders, most notably british prime minister, boris johnson, who is said to told zalinski that peace is not an option during one of his visits to the ukrainian capital last april. now this came a time when there was a you reported to be a tentative piece deal on the table between russia and ukraine. and, and he told us lensky reportedly told zalinski to break off those talks. now the, you, the united, united nation, sexy general antonia gutierrez, just last week said there is no serious chance of pistol was during his address to the world economic forum. but the same meeting, of course,

western leaders were talking about am more arms and selling more arms or more weapons or to ukraine. so, but while russia has consistently underlined its commitment to peace, it appears that others are not negotiating in good faith. we do know that the minsk agreements, which came to bring peace to the dumbass, we're not signed by the west in good faith has been pretty much admitted by the then leader of ukraine and the agreements, main sponsors, germany and france. his reminder of what they said to 2014 minsk agreement was an attempt to give the crane time ukraine. yes, this time to become strong. as you can see today, the ukraine of 20142015 is not the ukraine of to day. since 2014, ukraine has strengthened its military posture. it is the merit of the minsk agreements to have given the ukrainian army this opportunity. thus the time that prudent thought was an asset for him turned out to be in fact, an opportunity for the ukrainians. well,

this light is revelation appears to undermine the west plains. and i was very serious questions about where the piece is really on. it's a gender, it's all mastery, really worrying hypocrisy at its finances and it has the effects of joining me here in a few days to get in and out of my figure. oh, let's move on. now the u. s. has imposed sanctions on 10 iranian officials and one entity for what it sees as human rights abuses while suppressing nationwide process . but comes as easy for me as a doctor, the similar package of sanctions on monday, however, they still haven't blacklisted the revolutionary guards cool, despite hostile rhetoric tools, the organization does your honor the reigning regime with its revolutionary garza terrorizing your own people. day after day. it's therefore important that will launch a 4th package of sanctions against them. really don't. i think it's time to we

europeans reflecting our responses to this policy of state hostages that iran is now practicing good packages. only this new 4th package will affect $3070.00 rain officials and entities including lawmakers, sate media references and morality police heads. those on the list will be restricted in visa access on face of freezing of assets. previous packages of sanctions were imposed on more than 60 rain officials from similar sectors before the vote to her on had warned the union against classifying the revolutionary gods as teresa zation all underlining that they are themselves tackling terrorism in the region. and that the move would cause retaliation and could tell the future possibility for nuclear talks. now the protests, the mentions of 1st erupt and back in september after a 22 year old woman died in custody of the being arrested by mercy for these, for the inappropriate wearing of the mandatory headset for the demonstrations.

police arrested over 14000 people, including those with jewel nationality. st. authorities have also executed 4 people and restricted the internet to prevent further unrest. to get more or less cross live, to professor said mohammed moran, the from the university of tara professor said mom, a thank you so much for joining your artie. a pleasure to see another round of sanctions against iran, but not against the iranian or revolutionary. god was either taken the trans warnings seriously. i think it's pretty clear that the europeans understood that the iranians were and are very serious if they had declared the revolutionary guards. to be a farris organization, iran would have retaliated and the europeans have more than enough problems as it

is without having to escalate in the persian gulf region. the sanction that they've declared or force worthless, they're not important. none of these people, nor through the people who were sanctioned. on previous occasions, none of them have assets in europe, travel to europe, none of them have any interest. so it, it, they're all symbolic, and in any case, the european obey washington. so when the americans impose maximum pressure sanction under trump and continue to impose those thanks under by them the europeans do as told so there really isn't not, there isn't anything for the european to add. but when it comes to claiming that iran violates human rights, europeans and americans have impose maximum pressure sanctions securely. ronnie,

to make you run your supper and their persian language, television stations, many of them in london have an encouraging people to kill police officers. so for them to speak about human rights for most people in iran is somewhat ridiculous. you know, pretty much the whole well that doesn't agree with the us, so you is sanctioned iran, iran, rudy, cat, you had factions for well, since 1979. what country would have become if these factions would never impose, you think well, the sanctions increased gradually after the revolution. and the obama was actually the 1st person to impose maximum pressure of sanctions. what trump did was he revive those sanctions? he was critical of obama for signing the nuclear deal. and the reason why obama

agreed to negotiate with the run in the reason why the iranians rather agreed to negotiate with obama was because obama accepted that he was iran right, to enrich uranium. so then the negotiations began, when trump came, he basically revived obama, the maximum pressure sanctions ever since obama started those sanctioned those, those sanctions were targeted to kill people. they were targeted to destroy the economy, to destroy families, to destroy jobs, to prevent people from accessing medicine, food, and trump, revive them. and despite the fact that bite and when he was campaigning, he spoke against the trompe and policies. he continues with those policies as we speak. however, what has happened is that iran has grown, use the sanctions and even though they do hurt,

but they hurt much less than they did before. and now you're right is also pursuing great, especially under this administration. much stronger relations with the global south with asian countries. they joined the shanghai cooperation organization. they plan to join the bricks. they're exploring possibilities of central asia with russia, the north south core door. and of course, china and india. so you gradually effect the impact of western sanctions decreases. and basically what they've done is that they've push countries like iran in russia and china towards each other. and i think that is ironically very harmful toward for question policy. in the 1st find, the ego, the j. c, p. o, a hasn't been on the cause or hasn't really been talks about the news. the will, these will, these talks, the effect said, you think with these latest sections well

when the americans are, were pushing for the riots in iran because that's basically what it was when mass. i'm and he passed away persian media. and the wes immediately claimed that she was tortured without providing any proof. and then later on there were demonstrations because people, many people believe them. i initially believe them. but then later on, later on, when footage came out showing that nothing and said she was, she was fine, she had no, there was no sign of physical pain. she wasn't hancock. and later in the autopsy, very famous physicians and iran all said that there was no sign of any trauma or, or for being physically hurt or, and her father also admitted that when he was in, when he was with the body. what the he, there's footage of him saying that yes,

her body looks fine physically. in other words, she, she hadn't been struck by anything like that. then that the protest decrease and the riots began. but during those western back riots when the persian media in the west, we're promoting violence when they're calling on people even to kill iran international . the saudi channel in london was calling on people to was advocating murder during that period. the americans went sort of back, they stood back and we were expecting you can sessions for you from iraq because they thought the run was we can, the run was steadfast, they were patient. and now there are no riots in the run is are saying that the tax is ready whenever the americans want. they can find the deal is for the americans to make a decision. i be interesting to see how that pans out aside. mohammed mirandi, thank you so much for joining us here. see was a pleasure to see my view of your time. thank you.