saying that yes sir, her body looks fine physically, in other words, for she, she hadn't been struck by anything like that. then that the protest decrease and the riots began. but during those western back riots when the persian media in the west, we're promoting violence. when they're calling on people, even to kill iran international, the saudi channel in london was calling on people to was advocating murder during that period. the americans went a sort of back. they stood back and we were expecting you concessions for, from iraq because they thought the run was, we can, the run was steadfast, they were patient. and now there are no riots in the run is are saying that the tax is ready whenever the americans want. they can find the deal is for the americans to make a decision. might be interesting to see how that pans out aside. mohammed mirandi, thank you so much for joining us here. i'll see was a pleasure to see more for your time. thank you. well they are,

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hello and welcome to cross stock where all things are considered. i am peter labelle, according to french president emanuel luke wrong. the continent must decide whether once be free or a vassal of china or the united states. but crone has never been known to be an original thinker. however, on this point he is obviously right. the real question is whether is europe still has the power to decide its fate at all? ah, to discuss these issues and more and joyce, and by my guess, martin j a miracle, he is an award winning journalist and commentator. and here in moscow, we have to meet re, bop, and she is a political analyst and editor. it interests me. internet media project or a gentleman cross operate in effect. that means he can jump in any time he want. and i always appreciate it or not, sorry, i was martin in motor cash. i'm as i said in my introduction, martineau, i'm any weld macro this not, you know, not the brightest guy. me doesn't come up with the original ideas. but every once

in a while he does say what every one knows his obviously to be true. okay. he canada, he's like this even odd guy on even days. he totes the line on odd days tc let something out. ok, is it? it's probably the only reason why follow what he has to say, but he's absolutely right about this. that when i find really interesting is the very fact that he would say something like this. me this already too late, isn't it? go ahead. more on so many levels, you know, most of what's coming out and i'm a from macaroni and a few others. mouth is too little too late. i mean, i think is a rather fatuous archman. isolated to, to pitch the you somewhere in the middle, or at least needing require him to, you know, tire their colors to certain mass, whether it be china or whether that be the u. s. a cli, every must big china. and, but you know, micron is always out, i mean, is really, is, is, is completely isolated and within the you,

i disagree with you when you say is not very graphic. he is quite bright. i think you mean politically of richard. but i think i intellectually class more guy and um, he's got an incredible amount of pressure on him at the moment. i mean france is imploding and he car ready take a much more of these stretches. couple days ago there was a 1000000 people marching. i'm in paris at this sort of descent. i'm continues in, are they the than the arguments from the unions and paris is the view matter on has to go, you're the proper. but really, the essence of this is the, is the ukraine war and where the west has pitched. so, to me for macro on to make these are in sundry comments to the rest of the you is really interesting because it shows that we are on a point now where there was a sudden full ring of arrogance and stoic, obsessive her uh, focus towards the end game, as you liked to cool all you like to was called me up of this phrase and go i'm, i think alias begin to realize that there actually isn't and,

and guide absolutely credible on. there isn't a situation where they want to win. i mean, his comments are really interesting because they full want something like a week after diva house starts on the liberal eden upon european group in the ok. paulman said to me, pace me please look when losing and that the battle with the russians, the he, you sanctions just aren't working. and there they amount to 0 over his words. but he added to that, i wrote about it in an article for c, r c, just a week ago in a russian sanctions aren't working. he added to that, that are not only are the sanctions, not, not, not working, but things ruch of the coming worse in our relations with russia. because you are conscious with license light like at least not to trade with russia. but in fact, une 7 e u member states are actually impulsive, less from russia, from the shore, the rest are include st. more electrical from it. if i say cataclysmic, error of judgement, if you're banging vishal table and you know, and,

and making this battle charge towards the ukraine, thou woe and you think to those of them game with the europeans to win. so i think this is flooring. oh says some, this arrogance this mindset also he longs isn't changing yet, or because ring forced to reality is forcing them to i deem also on the same interview that them across made. he, he also said, um, i'm gonna tend to agree with barney and he's not stupid, he's politically stupid, but he's not intellectually stupid. okay. could i make that report to him a he also talked about, you know, what, you know, we, we always talk about even on this program. europe, but, you know, even he pointed out that europe is not united. he didn't used to work populace, but he was making reference to them. is that you know, of this conflict in ukraine oak for so we have like break that we had the catastrophic when merkel decision on immigration in 2015. this is one event after another, the ukraine, some situation because the wet west is so vested into this,

obviously ridiculous gambit. is it new or even saying mom, a greater divisions, divisions are always there, but they're just becoming more apparent in europe itself. and he's making reference obviously to eastern error thema, well, just dirt gold are one they use. i was weak. the hands of foreign ministers, overly sweeney. a lot man is thorn yet require demand that for all chancellors stoltz to sheep deliver no, but tanks to keep them in a could you imagine the just like 5 years ago, are you with nass, you know, of the foreign ministers already through ania. estonia are requiring socket pro all the chancellor driven, you know, i'm talking about blocker on, of course he is not very mush, white in russia. some people called him even compassion bro, full could he got, you know, will. and he kept saying, i'm going to quote which and i am calling fujen. well, at the same time, sandy and 4 weeks up, dance to do to the crating. gov. i mean,

that was very strange. what was the book and about piece? well, at the same time, adrian oiled with a fire in you crate. oh, but you're absolutely right. if we look at the big picture, i think the best and that is this was provided by a manuel thought, a french thinker in his interview glove. he got all last week, he basically said, oh ok of france and germany appeared to be full. i mean, they didn't anticipate, or the russian special of the reach and the gate in the ukraine. why? because they were not installed and they didn't know, ah, to what extent o the u. k. the united states and poland have armed you gray. they didn't know. and then, well, when there had been some food it late and now we're afraid to now just clinical details. i mean the had of german 4 in services. we believe the spectator was caught, and you grade, you know what, when that attack started,

but they had to sound special troops to get him out or out, and keep the same story with france. you know, it was completely anchored bad. people from the french embassy, it in their, in here for our are now. so you, it, you know, there, there full lamp s that for of which in them, in that terrible situation. ah, so basically it ah asked simona don't rights e key is it? as she says, that interview are the axis in europe, shift at wrong, ferris and berlin to washington london war. so, i mean, isn't that, that disaster for you? rook, you know, to be ra by out. sate was this, we the, ah, you know, also been at hostage or east european nationalism and who got it. what is dog is named? what a mental east european personally we can be surprised, they suppose, but then they kind of go back to martin here. then we'll say, motherly here a p and leaders here. but me, i me, what do they call? okay, who do they blame? they had themselves to blame for all of this. i want

a hat on to that he and the same were interviewed the microphone gave, are you, he talked about a crisis of capitalist, which was really quite interesting coming from a banker himself. and i tend to agree with him, but when he calls it, a crisis of conscience is the conscience of demo of democracies, which i get tired of that kind of verbage. but i would throw to both of you. no one wants to say, but it's a crisis of ideology that you know, this is an ideological paradigm in it's working less than less for the majority of people in the country in the countries that rules over it. that is patently obvious . and the leadership has to say, well, to the crisis of democracy, prices of, of capitalism as the prices of ideology. mar, yeah, it is. i'm, if you, if you look at her within the prism of long, not just even mistakes, but the ears. so it's actually even worse for brussel because brussels is, is a very young and experience and rather farrell project i'm, it's very good at them getting 28 member states together and working out so new

legislation full the let's windscreen wipers and the don't bigger picture stuff you know, big policy stuff like wars and conflicts and is no very good is the so much division, not just a glance assist on eastern european countries on one side and franco german federalist on the other. the remote divisions of that, i think this is when we talk about crisis of ideas and she, i think it at that this is what macklin is really touching on inodes. but there is a lack of confidence in governance generally in western european countries, you know, and the ukraine was actually made this much worse, because people are really starting to question on what sizzled about. i mean, how do we end up winning, even if we, when it evens people assigned to say, even if the you push russia out of ukraine and what, what? well, the spoils for us is incredible cynical people. it's incredible how people in mumble re london taxi drivers are realised that when energy prices go back down again,

government does tend not to pass that saving back to consumers. they tend to snatch it, you that. so there's no win win for westerners and the crisis. elijah ology is just becoming more and more. i'm obvious. you know, it's really interesting on the dementia. good up. her tanks, issue in a incredible that. um, the defense ministers would openly discuss this and make it public say, i find that incredible, you know, because hooted must be laughing, his head off. you know, so we've got the staves now, where festival we give credibility to the ukrainians for knowing how to run the run war. ha ha, you know, try and stop laughing at that. they don't know what they're doing that. but if we're gonna use some credibility, a truth to the cabal of advisors to, to choose alecky, you know, do they really know what they're talking about when they say the look, the civil put it in ukraine attacks the loading? sure. i agree with that. i'm wondering whether they've got some deal lined up with some middle eastern buyer or, or,

or as arena recently. african leaders now start to point out that these, this equipment started to turn up in a central african republic. so is it already about tanks if it really to we can really answer my bullshit and tell her is twitching a lot when i hear the stories about tanks. but if at 8 o'clock, small tanks are fungible yet, but if it is about tax, you know, physical zelinski has another people to, to, to run these 30, to operate in these tanks. but an interesting how biden's pulled back. i'm from sending abraham taste, which are probably the best tanks in the world. i'm to ukraine, and the excuses is come up with, which is probably annoying the europeans a lot. you know that it really is. this rule really is about our winners and losers and europe. is just to loser over and over again, whatever the story in aren't. but the abrams tanks is the kind of go along with i just sat here. i mean, i would end up in that in an, in a show room in moscow. i mean, he would be, there would be sold to that, but he sold, okay, there been for i know to list all the articles the yet it's,

it's all b s because you know that the biden is saying, oh, you know, these times a quite complicated on that other right, fueling ukraine, and this training involved for goodness sake. these tanks rolled into iraq in a matter of minutes in the, into the just it is to watch what they have yet to ukraine. it's p. s were being, were being lied to by the americans. again, i think micron to team could it rescue just want mine a point to put it here which hurts me. i think is the on the eve leader who's prepared to stand up and actually say this to the americans, the, you're really tranquil, the whatever eyes you know, we are, the ones are going to pay the biggest price it. and i wish about tanks is interesting because you latest now, i think a stones who admit openly that they don't actually want western countries or europe to actually win reward ukraine. national would have won, certainly germany, this won't bad, but germany was where it believes is he can win a war. finally, of a tricia that slowed a weekly way out in the year. i have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break,

we'll continue our discussion and to really stay with our team. ah, ah. willing a so booty toward you know cranium. g coyer? shooting? yeah, i did. she ship dr. lee that ship port of control in particular bought. so you should . she'll dd at them awarded aleki system will only be me out of it. not sing. what's it? what's anthony? lucy? leah with falconer jones? actually it's kim shopped our cool little dish. but i live in buffalo. oh crazies. dental they're used to modern day. my saw glenn but just dory. yes or no. sal if she elise, get us push i we ship them instead of just stick with what i

needed. if daughter to look like, you know what was in, i need a little circus as the you train school was with us for musician will one they reached over or up wearing. if actually the teacher couldn't. sure not to let you to go to work. you don't feel good to break global. i'm saying years about how she took on the job is to put up uniform. tricky view, queer to take a picture, go double play. you have to go so good on a welcome back to cross stock. were all things considered on peter? well, this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news. ah okay, let's go back to d. m a here in moscow. but one of the things i think is interesting here,

since we're talking about my crown, and we can throw in who i called a sergeant schultz. this conflict comes to it. you see he comes in there every all the time because then i think that's it in let's say, if not the, the way i read an explicit admission that this is just a bailed strategy and the sooner we get it over the better for every one daemon. well, i think you were right do, benson ideology before in order to understand how the french and the germans bought themselves into this mess. the keyword is, i dual would, you know, i remember in his memoirs, andre, alexandra ogden was brand new. i was advised for info to said, why is it, you know, he was asked up, why did prayers of gold been gayness? and, and the artist on, if i going to was, had been informed about, i mean, he called and groped with the one and only begun. and i called the one to deal with . i mean, and, and rob said, i mean his dead stop the conversation could and, and doubting sound wagons up in his explanation,

the rule that basically relative was at hostage do i do old. he thought that he had the good, you know, because of his obligations before that formula psychology before that, the murder that we're going to need a iraqi in the same way her in germany a petition said, becoming hosted is i know which you can't imagine. i mean, i read gum and press every day if, if there is a she'll though dissent like hint of doubt, should we sant onto your brain immediately. that person is school. which unfair stair, wiggins, france, you know, is on the payroll of law school. how do these, a petrol is feel your or kids, you know all of these insult and terrible statements and the, and the i think this is a very important the feature of that and he tarried the white through accuser. ashcroft identity? well, he, german, yet thou and that frost, unless it's then they mix. oh, they mix up what it takes, of morals, if you are a gains, said your arms to great,

you are an moral person. you know that they, they, they make the same you, they basically use the same tactics, asked the 3rd yes. and in the forty's, if you are not for germany, if you're not, but he'd what you are, you are betraying your love a your, your treat. so basically you're absolutely right that these people down to step out what a mess they gave themselves people that might, charles has been regen his feeds or one saying that he didn't, i didn't, he didn't have them there. but what about the morality to both of you about the prolonging of war that is already come to an end? i mean, in the, the ab destruction have been for structure, the suffering of civilians and this loss of soldiers. maybe it is unconscionable to continue this conflict the way they have, but this is where we are. i want to talk about at other european character here just a brow. i'm always happy when he talks, as he give lenny to reactive blendy. this guy is going to go down in history. okay,

is, were probably speaking more anders than anyone else in such a short amount of time. martin burrell said, incredibly, he said, i want to stress this to everyone. incredibly, you said the following. the west must keep arming ukraine because moscow defeated napoleon and hitler. i mean, this is why don't know what guy did his d, this guy is docked in of al. but wouldn't that be a clue? like we've got to wrap this up because history tells us what is this guy talking about? why does he have the position that he does? it's inner, although there's only one silver lining in this cloud, which is i can assure you of to working on bruce's will of me is that most you senior officials and he presto, taken very seriously. i mean, his position was never serious position. you know this talk to you to promote air where when the brits run run that particular circus see the ideology and brussels was whenever take when we can't take e foreign policy read says the so it's really important that we get some 3rd right

politician and no one who has no real clout, neural gravitas in, he fits start bill. he's a socialist for men training country and especially just yada, yada, yada. no one really takes gross seriously, but i think to go back to macro. and so smith langley, i think we do take back on seriously. and mack on is a very good pull the speaker, and he has respect around the world. no surprise hm. picks up on something else. he said, just in the last couple of days, he said he states it that and this feeds into this, this failed state ideology idea that you've come up with, which i agree with, which is that because we, we don't have a singular ideology with am ideal and see that one could even re take serious in the longer term that you does not have any ideals your toll and beyond brussels. but it micron said we need to reach out to the russians. we need to actually understand where do they think and, and actually asked them, well, what would be your defense m guarantees in you cried if we were ever to talk about

that as amazing is an amazing mission that we've got to position where our own ideas are complete saida, we're not winning, we call sandy and game around, people are suffering either, but then almost the same day macro also makes a state that we, what we should increase our supplies to ukraine, a support new cray. it's still what, what the hell is going on? here it is lovely. i wasn't going to be able to really focus so much. i'm a grown illness that i think you bring up a very good one, only explain to my frustration. okay. i was very dismissive, i'm in my introduction, i, i, you kind of pushed back. i've kind of agreed with you. i mean, he's not intellectually, he is bright, politically, he is stupid. but i guess when my frustration is here, being a successor to de gaulle, which every french president compares himself to de gaulle. he's not a leader. see, that's my great. is that a leader? he can say the right things, but if he don't have any power that grab at taos,

the careers, much of that office, the opiate in that historical standing, then it really irritates me to the point of being dismissive, i think i've explained myself your thumbs. yeah. but he, but the thing is, is not great either, but i am, he is the president froze is going to load least 3 is an office and he's beginning to see, but he's not going to make it is beginning to see that the e u project, which he'd like to be the crescent of in 2029. and he's the favorite in my view to become the de breslin. there won't be anything left of that he went to vessel $29.00. it'll be a crackpot lunatic. you know, i'm out fear i'm over run by far repeatedly european parliament and everybody at that point we're looking to the leisure to streamline it. so in one respect to the frank war is pushing this agenda. ukraine was winning on so many levels. we will talk on that program about ukraine war beyond the ukrainian borders. and this is another way of where russia is thinking long term and thinking, you know, the e u is definitely crumbling, as really fall into pieces. you've got people disagreeing with each other about how

to move forward, mostly want to win. legend if it is a phil reprisals, revenge attacks from, from russia. the americans are pretty smart and realize that as a possibility, they don't want to send a tank. so the long, long ranger, but michelle's fair keeping of it, you know, let europe pay the price for all of this. um, but so macros sees m failure and doom and despair. and this is why he's now banging the drum and talking about and the possibility of talking to russia about peace. i mean, if you look at her, you know, the sale that he ology i'm on people. i mean, the actual, the 40000000 citizens that make of the you that are going to be part of this song void with. we talk about european elections next year and company is time. will matrons policies some failing and strikes, become even bigger than i, m f. a micron is now farmers gone strike and bill stock calling for him to be live, so message to kill it from an outsider, looking in, i mean, in a dimmer europe is thought for

a minute. it's populate the european union's population is larger than near lighted . states g, d p is larger if you look at collectively here, but he doesn't have its own google, it doesn't have its own amazon, not that i think they're great things. again, they don't have their own facebook, but it is. if i do, that's a great thing. but i need to, i mean, from an outsider, looking him if he, they have everything that's necessary to be a great power. however they have chosen not to it. it is a craven choice. and i think that the historians will be very curious how they got to where they are today. go ahead demon. oh, of course. did slide all the jap, sorry. are those are the story with mark roll up, one of the few why states that he made in the last weeks was. and he said that, that you'd then we'll have, she ation after your brain sends out russia. and we will capitol taken breakout, russia, security concerns. yeah. and what happened all their french press, all the german press unleashed halem humans at how can you imagine this yellow

radishes, security concerns. and then they ask, why is why shall frighten in you? grade wise, rush about giving up will because if you are not going to bacon, took all those security considering, but they gave us nothing. mark the name of hang on here. what, what is frustrating for, for that? because with the, the legacy media, mainstream media, the never give context, but i think all of us were talking until we were all blue in the face that the russians gave them that opportunity. in december of 22021. we need security guarantees, we need to sit down and it's getting to a point of going beyond the, you know, know what, no, no, no point. and they didn't believe and i read it in good and that you are absolutely right. the about the context. i mean amal thought and his interview. she says, yeah, it depends on the lance that you're using. if you just appoint your last ukraine in february for thousands, thank you. juan assorted without acquainted you. you will see russian troops moving

from east to west. but if you will, so mild, and if you take the time like 10 years when he has 15, yes, you see lot so, so just warren prone west to eat your c nato expanding to united niger mind, go. poland to check republic and con, agreed to 1000, fought at age of the baltic. republics, rumania suddenly became a very war style, counted the, what's russia? so if you take the big picture, russian saw responded in there, not a start, you know, the mass, they're responding to this huge wound meant all west and grew strong west to east that took place in the last 10 years. so again, these people back won't text and because they lack one text or the only way they can defend their position is though just to lash out that any kind of hold. you can't imagine what's going on in europe right now. i mean, oh,

all the people who are objection to this, they immediately label. oh goodness, at best far right. yeah. you know a song while there's just because she said that she agreed with logic in deaf woke was magazine that the other night states and china brought it up from this she traced while europe was losing. she was lame as she was cool names by thousands of people, you know, one tweet and elsewhere. and the reality is, you know, i'm just go get double stein dark. oh for all my other, your focus indian. he basically, as grew up that the biggest, when a strong dismiss their 1st the, you asked, you fans poppins that also european defense companies such as b, a, b, e, g, in that the u. k. a down arkell lead lip. that's not to forget, you know, the economic interest here a and leave was if i, you russia, vide, we finally got 2 boys who benefit from this catastrophe. okay. and we just did jazz all the time. we have one, i think, my guess in medication moscow. and i think our viewers for watching us here. rp see

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