genocide of the congo population is considered to be one of the grimmest pages in the history of mankind. blue children at st in residential school suffered nightmarish levels of abuse, torture, and child rape. and yet the office of the attorney general suppressed thousands of pages of police and evidence that identified the perpetrators in the school. i was electrocuted twice. i was only 7 years old. was too high for me. so for me to put me in the chair or by the law warriors to run over here after abuse somebody and run her and she kept solution with himself. some of them are myron relative, didn't make it jerking themselves to death over doses. but yeah, what it made me, it made me the person i am today because i'm afraid i don't give up an

easy investigations. were too often handled differently because the decease was indigenous. so many of the worst criminals got away the bishop's got away. the ones we've done most of the damage never got charged ah, with hello and welcome across the dock were all things are considered? i'm peter labelle. according to french president emmanuel look wrong. the candidate must decide whether wants to be free or a vassal of china or the united states. but crone has never been known to be an original thinker. however, on this point, he is obviously 8. the real question is whether is europe still has the power to

decide its fate at all? ah, to discuss these issues and more and joined by my guess, martin j and marrakech he is an award winning journalist and commentator. and here in moscow, we have to meet re bob and she is a political analyst and editor. it interests me, internet media project or gentleman cross up roles in effect, that means he can jump in any time he want. and i always appreciate it or not. sorry, i was martin in mary cash. i'm as i said in my introduction, martineau, i'm many, well mich. chrome is not, you know, not the brightest guy. me doesn't come up with original ideas. but every once in a while he does say what every one knows his obviously to be true. ok. he currently has like this even odd guy on even days. he totes the line on odd days. these e let something out. ok, is it, it's probably the only reason why follow what he has to say when he's absolutely

right about this. that when i find really interesting is the very fact that he would say something like this. me this already too late, isn't it? go head more on so many levels, you know, most of what's coming out and i'm a from macaroni and a few others. mouth is too little too late. i mean, i think is a rather fatuous archman. isolated to, to pitch, to you somewhere in the middle, or at least needing require him to, you know, tire their colors to a certain mass, whether it be china or whether that be the u. s. a cli, every must big china. um, but you know, micron is on his own. i mean is really, is, is, is completely isolated and within the you, i disagree with you when you say is not very graphic. he is quite bright. i think you mean politically of richard. but i think i intellectually is quite small guy and am. he's got an incredible amount of pressure on him at the moment. i mean, france is imploding and he car ready take a much more of these stretches. couple days ago there was

a 1000000 people marching. i'm in paris at this sort of descent. i'm continues in, are they the than the arguments from the unions and paris is the view. matter has to go, you're the proper. but really, the essence of this is the, is the ukraine war and where the west has pitched itself to met for macro on to make. these are in sundry comments to the rest of the you is really interesting because it shows that we are on a point now where there was a sudden flooring of arrogance and stoic, obsessive her. uh, focus towards the end game as you liked to cool all you like to was called me up of this phrase and go, i'm, i think alias begin to realize that there actually isn't and, and guide absolutely credible on. there isn't a situation where they him want to win. i mean, his comments are really interesting because they full what something like a week after diva house starts on the liberator and upon european group in the ok. paulman said to him, he pays me please look. when losing and further the battle with the russians,

the he, you, sanctions just aren't working. and there they amount to 0 over his words. but he added to that, i wrote about it in our school for to our see just a week ago in a russian sanctions aren't working. he added to that, that are not only are the sanctions, not, not, not working, but things much of the coming worse in our relations with russia. because you're conscious with license light like at least not to trade with russia. but in fact, une 7 e u member states are actually impulsive, less from russia, from the shore, the rest aren't gucci, more electrical from it. it, let's say, cataclysmic, error of judgement. if you're banging vishal table and you know, and, and making this battle chugs towards the crane, thou war and you think that there's a damn game with the europeans to win. so i think this is flooring. oh says some, this arrogance this mindset also humans is on a change it yet. oh, because ring forced to reality is forcing them to i deem also on the same interview

that done on macro made. he, he also said, um, i'm gonna tend to agree with barney and he's not stupid, he's politically stupid, but he's not intellectually stupid. okay. could i connect that report to him a he also talked about, you know, what, you know, we, we always talk about even on this program. europe, but, you know, even he pointed out that europe is not united. he didn't used to work populace, but he was making reference to them is that you know, of this conflict in ukraine up for so we have like break that we had the and catastrophic when merkel decision on immigration in 2015. this is one event after another, the ukraine, some situation because the wet west is so vested into this, obviously ridiculous gambit. is it new or even saying mom, a greater divisions, divisions are always there, but they're just becoming more apparent in europe itself. and he's making reference obviously to eastern error thema, well, just dirt gold are one they use. i was weak. the hands of foreign ministers overly

sweeney a lot. and is thorn yet require demand that for all chancellors stoltz to sheep deliver no, but tanks to keep them in. could you imagine the just like 5 years ago, are you with nass, you know, and of the foreign ministers already to ania. estonia are requiring socket pro all the chancellor driven, you know, i'm talking about laquan. of course, he is not very much white in russia. some people called him even compassion, bro, full colleagues, you know, will. and he kept saying, i'm going to quote which and i'm calling fujen. well, at the same time, sandy and 4 weeks up, dance to do to the crating. gov. i mean, that was very strange. what was the book and about piece? well, at the same time that adrian oiled with a fire in you crate. oh, but you're absolutely right. if we look at the big picture, i think the best and that is this was provided up by a manuel thought,

a french thinker in his interview glove. he got all last week, he basically said, oh ok of france and germany appeared to be full. i mean, they didn't anticipate the russian special operation in the ukraine. why? because they were not installed and they didn't know. ah, to what extent o the u. k. the united states and poland have armed you gray. they didn't know. and then when a, when there had been some food it late and now we're finding out just clinical details. i mean the had of german 4 in services. we believe the spectator was caught, and you grade, you know what, when that attack started, but they had to sound special troops to get him out or out of keep the same story with france. you know, it was completely out good. bad people from the french embassy it in there in here for our are now see you it, you know, there, there full lamp. s that 4 of which in them in that terrible situation. ah,

so basically it, ah, asked simona tod rights e key is it? as she says in that interview, ah, the axis in europe shift at wrong, ferris and berlin to washington london war. so, i mean, isn't that, that disaster were you rook, you know, to be ra by outside was us we, the, ah, you know, also been at hostage or east european nationalism and who got it. what is margaret is named what a mental east european personally we can be surprised, they suppose, but then we can go back to martin here. then we'll say, motherly here a p and leaders here. but me, i me, what do they call? okay, who did they blame? they had themselves to blame for all of this. i want a hat on to that. here in the same were interviewed the microphone gave, are you, he talked about a crisis of capitalist, which was really quite interesting coming from a banker himself. and i tend to agree with him. but when he calls it, a crisis of conscience is the conscience of demo of democracies, which i get tired of that kind of verbage. but i would throw to both of you. no one

wants to say, but it's a crisis of ideology. but you know, this is an ideological paradigm in it's working less and less for the majority of people in the country in the countries that rules over it. that is patently obvious . and the leadership has to say, well, to the crisis of democracy, prices of, of capitalism. it's a crisis of ideology, mar yet is am, if you, if you look at her within the prism of long, not just even mistakes, but the ears. so it's actually even worse for brussel because brussels is, is a very young and experience and rather farrell projects i'm, it's very good at them getting 28 member states together and working out so new legislation full the let's windscreen wipers and the don't bigger picture stuff you know, big policy stuff like wars and conflicts. i'm is no very good is the so much division, not just a glance assist on eastern european countries on one side and franco german federalist

on the other. the remote divisions of that i'll, i think this is when we talk about crisis of i didn't she, i think it, it did. this is what macklin is really touching on inodes, but there is a lack of confidence in governance generally in western european countries. you know, a new crime was actually made as much worse because people are really starting to question on what sizzled about. i mean, how do we end up winning, even if we, when it evens people assigned to say, even if the you push russia out of ukraine and what, what? well, the spoils for us is incredible. how cynical people is incredible, how people in mumble re london taxi drivers are realised that when energy prices go back down again, government does tend not to pass that saving back to consumers. they tend to snatch it, you that. so there's no win win for westerners and zone. the crisis of ideology is just becoming more and more. i'm obvious. you know, it's really interesting on the dementia. good up. her tanks, issue in

a incredible that. um, the defense ministers would openly discuss this and make it public, say, a father incredible. you know, because hooted must be laughing, his head off. you know, so we've got the staves now, where festival we give credibility to the ukrainians for knowing how to run the run war. ha, you know, try and stop laughing at that. they don't know what they're doing that. but if we're gonna use some credibility, a truth to the cabal of advisors to, to choose alecky, you know, do they really know what they're talking about when they say the look, the civil put it in ukraine attacks the learning? sure. i agree with that. i'm wondering whether they've got some do lined up with some middle eastern buyer or, or, or as arena recently. african leaders now start to point out that these, this equipment started to turn up in a central african republic. so is it already about tanks if it really to we can really answer my bullshit and tell her is twitching a lot. when i hear the stories about tangs, but if it is advisable tanks are fungible yet. but if it is about tax, you know,

physical zalinski has another people to, to, to run these 30, to operate in these tanks. but in the interesting how biden's pulled back, i'm from sending abraham taste, which are probably the best tanks in the world. i'm to ukraine and the excuses in is come up with, which is probably annoying the europeans a lot. you know that it really is. this rule really is about our winners and losers . and europe is just a loser over and over again. whatever the story was me and aren't, but the abrams tanks just to kind of go along with i just sat here. i mean, i would end up in it in a, in a show room in moscow. i mean, he would think there would be sold to that, but he sold, okay, there, man, for i know to list all the articles the yes it's, it's all biased because you know that the biden is saying, oh, you know, these times are quite complicated on that other right, fueling ukraine, and this training involved for goodness sake. these tanks rolled into iraq in a matter of minutes in the, into the desert, in a slightly used yet to ukraine. it's p. s were being,

were being lied to by the americans. again, i think micron to came could it rescue just want mine a point of foot here, which hurts me, i think is the on the e leader who's prepared to stand up and actually say this to the americans. the, you're really tranquil, the whatever eyes you know, we are, the ones are going to pay the biggest price it. and ownership of tanks is interesting because you latest. now i think a stones who admit openly that they don't actually wants western countries or europe to actually win the ward ukraine. that's not what they want. certainly germany, us won't, that. but germany worlds where it believes is a can what when a was finally of a tricia that slowly weekly, went out in the year after go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion. and so real estate with arctic blue leaf hunter, russian state,

full narrative. i started as i'm funding those landscape diva jimenez jingles. how sons and within the 50000 feet of his on any final cd? well, hey bethany with we will ban in the european union. the kremlin, yup, machine. restate on russia for date and split marquee spoon. now, given our video agency, roughly all band to on youtube and pinterest, and we put pollution. did you think? even cliff with b places which a form of

a tens of thousands of years can give us important information into our climate and how it has changed over time. and what a scary is our glaciers are melting at an alarming rate to learn more. we came here to mount ellis, to speak to victor. papa. he is a gracie ologist who has devoted his entire life to the topic. it is a fascinating at times dangerous and very important. john. welcome back to browse stock. were all things considered on peter lou? this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news. ah okay, let's go back to d. m a here in moscow. but one of the things i think is interesting here, since we're talking about mccrendon, we can throw in who i called a sergeant schultz here in there seems to be concerted effort. i've talked about

this many times in london in washington. really just want to get rid of sholtes idea, like social democrats, they ever have, but micron and shelter if you were to watch them, observed them carefully. is the only 2 european leaders that are actually thinking about the day after the week after the month after the year after this country comes to it. you see he comes in there every all the time. because in i him, that's an implicit, if not the way i read an explicit admission that this is this of failed strategy, and the sooner we get it over the better for everyone demon that, well, i think you're right. do benson ideology before in order to understand how the french and the germans bought themselves into this mass. the keyword is, i dual, would, you know, i remember you. his memoirs, andre alexandra, argon was brand new. i was advised for info to shed. why's it? and he was asked up, why did bears of gold been gayness and the on its own, or if i gonna was, had not been informed about, i mean,

he quoted dropped with the one in oakley basia at os call. but want to deal with, i mean, and, and rob of said, i mean his dead stop the conversation. and, and the alexander wagon took in his explanation, the rule that basically bradley was a hostage to, i do old. he thought that he had the good, you know, because of his obligations before that formula psychology before that the murder, the alga needed iraqi in the same way. so it germany, petition said, becoming hosted is i door, which you can't imagine. i mean, i read government press every day if, if there is a, she'll though dissent like hint of doubt should we sant arms to be great. immediately that person is school, which unfair stare. wiggins, france, you know, is on the payroll of law school. how do these, a petrol is feel your or get general all of these insult and terrible statements? and the, and the, i think this is

a very important the feature of the thing he tarried the white 3. it was a rush of that any theory? well, in germany at thou and that france less 6, then they mix, oh, they mix up what it takes of morals. if you are a gains, save your arms, you great. you are an moral person. you know that they, they, they make the same you, they basically use the same tactics, asked the 30 percent of the forty's, if you are not for germany, if you are not, but he'd what you are, you have betrayed your love, your your trait. so basically you're absolutely right that the, these people down to step out what a mess they gave themselves people that might, charles has been regen his feet, or one said intent. he didn't, i didn't, he didn't have them there. but what about the morality to both of you about the prolonging of war that is already come to an end? i mean, in the, the have destruction of infrastructure, the suffering of civilians. and this loss of soldiers means it is unconscionable to

continue this conflict away. they have, but this is where we are. i want to talk about at other european character here just a barrel. i'm always happy when he talks, as he give lenny to reactive blendy. this guy is going to go down in history. okay, is probably speaking more anders than anyone else in such a short amount of time. martin burrell said, incredibly, he said, i want to stress this to everyone. incredibly, he said the following. the west must keep arming ukraine. because moscow defeated napoleon and hitler, i mean, this is why don't know what guy did his t, this guy is docked in of albert would not be a clue. like, we've got to wrap this up because history tells us, what is this guy talking about? why does he have the position that he does? it's inner although there's only one silver lining in this cloud, which is i can assure you of to working on brussels will of me is that most you senior officials and e presto taken very seriously. i mean, his position was never serious position. you know this talk to you to promote air

where when the brits run run that particular circus. see the ideology and brussels was whenever take when we caught take e foreign policy read says the so it's really important that we get some 3rd rate politician and no one who has no real cloud in there who gravitas in he fits start bill. he's a socialist for men training country and especially just yada, yada, yada. no one really takes grew seriously, but i think to go back to macro. and so smith langley, i think we do take back on seriously. and mack on his way to pull the speaker and he has respect around the world. no surprise him picks up on something else. he said, just in the last couple of days, he said he states it but, and this feeds into this, this failed state ideology idea that you've come up with, which i agree with, which is that because we, we don't have a singular ideology with our, my jealousy that i'm on could even re take serious in the longer term that he does not have any ideals your tool and beyond brussels. but it micron said we need to

reach out to the russians. we need to actually understand way that they think and, and actually asked them, well, what would be your defense m guarantees. then you cried if we were ever to talk about that as amazing as an amazing mission that we've got position where our own ideas are complete, saida, we're not winning. we call sandy and gay. our own people are suffering either, but then almost the same day macro also makes a state that we, what we should increase our supplies to ukraine, a support new cray. it's less either what, what the hell's going on here it is lower than i wasn't going to be able to really focus so much. i'm a grown illness, but i think you bring up a very good one. i wanted to explain to you my frustration. okay. i was very dismissive, i'm in my introduction, i, i, you kind of pushed back. i've kind of agreed with you. i mean, he's not intellectually, he is bright, politically, he is stupid, but i guess what my frustration is here, being a successor to de gaulle,

which every french president compares himself to de gaulle. he's not a leader. see, that's my gripe is not a leader. he can say the right things, but if he don't have any power that grab at taos, the careers, much of that office, the opiate in air, that historical standing then it really irritates me to the point of being dismissive, i think i've explained myself your thumbs. yeah. but he, but the thing is, is not great either, but i am, he is the president froze is going to load least 3 is an office and he's beginning to see, but he's not gonna make it is beginning to see that the e u project, which he'd like to be the crescent of in 2029. and he's the favorite in my view to become the de breslin. there won't be anything left of the e mail to 1st of $29.00. it will be a crackpot lunatic. you know, i'm out fear i'm over run by far. i repeat the european parliament and everybody at that point, we're looking to the leisure to streamline it. so in one respect to the frank war is pushing as a general ukraine was winning on so many levels in the week. we always talk on the

program about ukraine war beyond the ukrainian borders. and this is another way of where russia is thinking long term and thinking, you know, the e u is definitely crumbling, as really fall into pieces. you've got people disagreeing with each other about how to move forward. mostly want to win. legend if it is a phil reprisals, revenge attacks from, from russia. the americans are pretty smart and realize that as a possibility, they don't want to send a tank. so the long, long ranger, but michelle's fair keeping of it, you know, let europe pay the price for all of this. um, but so macros sees m failure on doom and despair. and this is why he's now banging the drum and talking about the possibility of talking to russia about peace. i mean, if you look at her, you know, the sale that he ology and, and people, i mean, the actual, the 40000000 citizens that make up the you that are going to be part of this at some point where we talk about european elections next year. and company is time will match runs policies, some failing and strikes become even bigger than i'm half

a micron is now farmers gone strike. and they'll start calling for him to be live. so message to kill it from an outside or looking in a mean, you know, dimmer europe is not for, i mean it, it populates the european union's population is larger than near lighted. states a g. d p is larger if you look at collectively here. but he doesn't have its own google, it doesn't have its own amazon, not that i think they're great things. again, they don't have her on facebook, but it is, if i did, that's a great thing. but i need to, i mean, from an outsider, looking him if he, they have everything that's necessary to be a great power. however they have chosen not to. it is a craven choice. and i think that the historians will be very curious how they got to a where they are today. go ahead demon. oh, of course did slide all the jap, sorry. are those are the story with mark roll up the bottom of the few why states that he made in the last weeks was a. he said that, that you, dan broke out she ation after your brain ends up russia. and we will capitol taken

3 called russia security concerns. yeah. and what happened all their french brass, all the german press unleashed halem, he immunization, how can you but imagine this yellow radishes security concerns. and then they ask, why is why shall frighten in you grade wise rush without giving up will. because if you are not going to bacon, took out our security, consider it, but they gave us a laughing mark. the name hang on here. what, what is frustrating for, for that because it would be the legacy media, mainstream media, the never give context, but i think all of us were talking until we were all blue in the face that the russians gave them that opportunity in december of 2021, we need security guarantees we need to sit down and it's getting to a point of going beyond the, you know, know what, no, no, no point. and they didn't believe and i read it, didn't believe it. and that you are absolutely right. the about the context,

i mean amal thought and his interview. she says, yeah, it depends on the lance that you're using. if you just the point, you're lanced your grain in february for thousands. thank you. one assorted without acquainted to you will see russian troops moving from east to west. but if he was still mild, and if you take the time like 10 years when he has 15, yes, you see lot so. so just warren prone west to each, jo, see nato expanding to 1999 go poland to check republic and con, agreed to 1000, fought at age of the baltic. republics, rumania suddenly became a very forced out, counted the, what's russia? so if you take the big picture, russian, se auntie in there, not a start, yelled the mass, they're responding to this huge wound meant all western grew strong west to east that took place in the last 10 years. so again, these people back won't next. and because they lack want ext, uh,

the only way they can defend their position is though just to lash out that any kind of hold. you can't imagine what's going on in europe right now. i mean, oh, all the people who are objection to this, they immediately label. oh goodness, as best as far right. ah, you know a song while there's just because she said that she agreed with an article into a focus magazine that the united states and china brought it from this she traced while europe was losing. she was lame as your school named by thousands of people. you know, one tweet and elsewhere. and the reality is, you know, i'm just quoted gobber stein doc for all my other, your focus magazine. he basically as grew up that the biggest, when a strong dismiss their 1st the, you asked defense poppins. they're also european defense companies, such as b, a, b, e, d, in the u. k, a down arkell, meet lip. that's not the forget, you know,

the economic interest here a and leave was us, are you russia? vide we finally got 2 boys who benefit from this catastrophe. okay. and we just did jazz all the time. we have one thing, my guess in medication moscow. and i think our viewers for watching us here. rp cnx time, remember russell's ah ah ah ah ah

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