ah you know, there was no program when i left i kind of and all of us at life after hate, kind of stumbled our way through it. and then we can take the lessons that we've learned from that and shrink the time frame down. so there's less walk, less wandering in the wilderness, so to speak. when i was in the move in the last 2 years, before i left, i was struggling with do i want to leave? i like, pardon me, want to leave? another part didn't has been battle with ice. if i leave, i had nothing to fall back on. i have that deposit. do i have nobody to go to? you know me. the exemption lived around last 7 years. i have nothing. sometimes it's hard. if they've got a swastika tattooed on their neck, it's hard for them, but just to say, i don't do that anymore. it's kind of a long process. it's not like you just leave it one day and you're like, well,

i'm glad that's over. i had been out of the movement before i got connected with these guys, but i was on my own and didn't talk about it and had a lot of buried shame and guilt. and then i met these guys and i saw, you know, frankly talking arnold dog, it helped me get past that barrier of feeling like i had to hide this from world. that opening up has really just taken my, my healing process and my evolution to a whole other level. really, you've got to find a way to find an affirmation that every discussion, no matter how bad it feels that it's going, you've just got to be able to, now's like, takes guts to do that. trying to help them discover the abilities that they have. this is why we don't want to foster dependency. this is why the intervention can't rely on my car is more. they go from being untrusting, hateful, spiteful, distant to begging for more interaction. another phone call. another meeting, you know, tell me poor and don't be surprised when they say that's the best conversation i've

had in a long time. that is something that's very routine that comes out of people just want to be listened to. and we're trying to teach you how to listen to them. well, we hold a mirror up so the person can see their humanity reflected back at them through our and when we treat them as human beings treat them for the suffering person that they are. and they, on the receiving end of that, they get to see that, hey there's, there is a human insights. and lastly, i think the incredible power of compassion was very impactful. when someone finally came along with no fear, no judge man, he heard my story, did nothing to challenge it but validated. as soon as i start talking about my mother, tears came out. i just spilled my guts about everything she had done to me. but in her brother rate me and my sister denying the rape happened making us go back around. how many kind of she she tried to kill me, broken bones, bruises the starvation, the sleep deprivation,

the humiliation making me swallow my own. my brothers and sisters watching is turning my brother against me. keep my sister away from me like i had never had a chance to just unleash all that. and i probably went on like an hour of just the, the stuff she did to me. and he says, well, i want to ask another question. have you ever done this to anyone else? it just in that moment it was like, i'm just like, my mother me what really changed me was receiving compassion from the people that i least

deserved from when i least deserved. people knew who i was, it was a small town. they knew what i was capable of and what i've been doing for years and they didn't attack me. they didn't break the windows of my star, then argue ideologically with me. they came in and they were empathetic towards me . and they treated me with compassion despite the horrible person that i was at the time the buddy might offer me a job carrying in antique furniture at cherry hall, new jersey mall for a weekend, 3 days 100 bucks a day. and i told him, i said i take the job, he was going to tell you, before he say yes, the guy who owns this company is do. and i said, i don't care i'm, i've talked to him, do i want to work for 6 months? i still think it was in the nazi shift would fit every jewish stereotype religious

wearing alligators. i don't bring them right away. i broke the marble top table and i was like, i'm so stupid. i'm so sorry. i was 7 bowers for him. so i so hours a day, right for the customer, but in spite of very drove me home. i was waiting for him to fire me. so actually, you know, and i remember him when not too much on that day. and i just kept my boots on a little seat of his trunk delivery and you couldn't really put him any further than i were. and my knees were hurting so bad because it's trying to hold him up there. so for the whole right, swastikas looks at him every day like his normal nazi and i just don't want him to see my boots tenuous improvement. what they did for me. they dropped me off and

they were full pay, take anything monday. and i was told and i just couldn't wait to pretend things off my feet. everyone back. i'm not scared. i wanted him. i'm done with it. i'm fluid. if it was 2 parts to getting out of a violin, extreme, the script, the 1st part of disengagement, which is where you leave the social group. you leave the behavior you leave, but you probably still have the ideology. you've been given this nice recipe for how the world works and you take that away from somebody and then what do they have, right? they, they were looking for an analysis and you've taken away their analysis. so, you know, what's left drugs, i mean there all kinds of things that they can just sort of fall into. so you have to be very careful about it. and when you're bringing them out,

you will alert them to the risks. this isn't going to be easy, they're going to be people are angry that do this because they've lost someone. they've invested the time and energy and we do debriefing. you know, if you're going to be on the outside, we need to know everything you know about how it works on the inside cuz you're not going back in. so we're, since we're going to burn those help you burn those bridges. so you can't go back and take everything away that was associated with that world. we take away your white laces. we take away your nazi fly because it's too easy to go back into. the next part is d. radicalization where the belief systems in the audiology are removed. you can't go to going to anti mental from cobra for a couple weeks. may get the rates at the same time. it's a bit big. that's how they do it. we're at the anti vent on the name because we have, we had that metal min are we not spew it and we know how to also make it an empty metal and we had the answer. so i do believe the secret sauce is coming from a loving place. you can't hate this person and expect to communicate any of that.

you can't judge this person and expect to calmer, that with empathy before you got out what was what was pushing you to want to get out. i wrote jackson, you know, before and after president, you know, most of my best friends, but it's like, ok in prison. you know, like, you know, you have to be so you can be it. and after a while, before you realize that it's scary, is you actually become that image. you are just for training. i had a myself everyday for getting myself locked up. so when i looked at it, what made anybody else more special than me? i hated them. where did that shift come from? how come you one, you went from? not thinking about that to really and i need to start making some changes is why she wasn't much longer up in the heart wrenching every time i live on the same level that another family because i can't be out there. the brothers didn't

like that when they found out because they could just let me know. and it's been a big deal. said they, you know, try to kill me. i know i get off the road and i'm, you know, i'm going to come to the car breaks, breaks, and i remember slicing. child call us up. right. like i said, yes, good. you need to is mad right across. and then we inside the school and open this up. i'm trying to get out to get on time. if there was one thing someone stuck in there was someone in that life who may not be aware that there's a way out. what would you say they go all the have that have

ruins. you get poisoned, you're very solemn, and i left him a lot of humans since really, during the summer in 2016, we started to see a significant consistent increase in the number of incidents reported to our office . we saw between 20152016, the number of anti muslim. hey groups tripled tonight. the every i looking into whether have crime charges will be filed against in alleged white supremacists, accused of stabbing to good samaritans to death on a commuter train. in portland, the guy who did that was someone who had been in the fringes of the all right, movement, the enemies up on their way. the country are great on there that we hear that all the time. go back to where you came from. and he just amped up that

rhetoric that he wants to take his country back. and so that's that, that's the theme that runs through that. and we're not going to let people come into our country. it's troy. i saw this guy running for president doing the exact same thing and i couldn't believe that i was hearing it, but i knew that it would work. and that was the frightening thing because i've seen it work on a klan rally and stone mountain georgia. i saw that kind of rhetoric where people are yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. what do we do about their culture? i don't want to know about their culture. if you want your body, you could just go back to much, much bucket of gasoline was kicked over and lit up. all those little sparks that already existed into a large forest buyer. part of donald trump's huge appeal was that although he does

not think in terms of race, the way i do, he at least thinks in terms of nation, he recognized that the united states is a nation with a particular people. and that not everybody belongs. this is a great relief to millions of white people who have seen their nation transformed in the name of diverse with diversity that always comes at the expense of white. we spoke to some of the things that, that angry white male wants to hear. we're going to put a wall on the border. we're going to make the mexicans pay forward. we're going to bring manufacturing jobs backs as a kind of populous messaged, white males combined with racism, that was found to be very attractive. and everyone's promises like that idea. one does not tens of thousands, there's hundreds of thousands of them that have an intellectual curiosity and an understanding of national socialism that no skin had ever had. there was a price you paid if you were a public with your big tree or anti semitism. it didn't serve you well in your

career. your friends in your neighborhood really weren't excited to hang out with you. your kids might be embarrassed of you. your parents would be really upsetting you and people learned that those attitudes were not going to be beneficial to their life. i think what we're concerned about now is that blanket and that we put over it, is being pulled back. that it's gonna be really hard to put that back where it was, ah ah, in the least counter russian state. little narrative type as i'm phoning most. i'm seeing that the vest. i'm not getting calls. i'll sons them up for a group in the 55 with speedy one else with we will van in the european

union, the kremlin media machine, the state on russia for date, and c, r t spoof neck. even our video agency, roughly all bands on youtube with me i. this is for more a conflict over power in state case involving 2 united states and russia. a question about russia, a sphere of influence in the former soviet space for the poles in europe rolled and ukraine easy sunshine in order to get all these things doesn't want to allow to happen and this is bought them off. what is going on

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potential violence today to speech by white national leader, richard spencer. who do the protesters gathering outside the site a day? but i will say that back to you. all right? read the notion that they really were the way to find a stage spencer, trying to speak to the noise chip with

. so you know how to check, who's with his guy. you guys gonna get killed that here? so my, i got, i got this guy color the hey people who say, oh, it's all love we hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, low please. same people had a

message a hey, when i post randy, you know, i came home. i don't want to talk to you, you know, understand you. he was cool. no problem the whole time. we couldn't really have a discussion because the camera, you know, you people pushy, i get, tell me what was it was go find more of a sudden, you know, i don't know if i'm talking to you like really and i guess our intimate setting was force known as we were both keep out. so we encountered some police officers, they were treating randy how they would treat me on a regular day, you know, just are for what they perceive by his our parents end up one arrest is. yeah. and i wanted to say right, this magic got veto and spin are usually spent on the back. is it usually his mouth, but what is he doing wrong?

why you haven't been, sit on a growl and do this type of stuff. so we actually started walking and talking and we find out we have things in common, you know, eyes and his views about certain bay. it was certain style and both. yeah. he was telling me he got involved his teenage years in the area nation and asked him how a lot of my friends, the liberal people get involved in a blow to cripps in different games they joined. that's what's around you. so what i was around you and your friends may be involved with whatever. 6 happens, your mindset is going to be on that. so for me, i just saw the similarities of what my culture would deal with just in a little different way. there's no, there's nothing new up under the sun is, was just a different route. they angry, white men angry black men to different the angry black man is angry because he has no home has no vision. yeah, no way to provide angry white people, especially a low income cause they have so many mental role models that you can just turn on the tv and see success. i mean,

that would be deprived to have down at the bottom with black people and they've got a reason to be you know, i'm white. what am i know? it is a d, c that you'll see the thing your own the and, you know, you know, you know, when your doctor, the doctor, any you know, better way to focus setting or that the nice people have a different color. i say that white man because he's angry because he doesn't really understand what question. oh no, that america. he doesn't even say you got the way out for the blessed waiting to hear back. i mean everybody. that's why it in america has benefited. ok. give me answer that call or suppose davis or mr. busier and help me help me. i got somebody to understand not just myself,

but my culture as a whole and look it differently just because of my individual encounter every week man 5 to 3 times a week. that the lease due to time phone calls, you know, hours, phone goldhill. we thought it was ours. mm . i mean, when you think about what you've done, just in the last month, the turnaround, the correction, the what you've abandoned and what you would opted it's, most people can't even lose 10 pounds. they want to lose much less make an entire mental, emotional lifestyle change to humanize town, which allowed them to humanize your like that, that's not rocket science, but yeah, it's, it's evading. the majority of the country right now, there's a lot, i could, i could never look at anybody in engineering umbrella who, the nation. anybody got

a lot of on the same lack of free and that was part of his narrative and changes his narrative's. not that we agree with anything that comes out of the far right. is that we don't ever forget that there are people inside of us people, but you know that there's a human being inside of this person, right. and we just choose not to forget that you don't really see x not seeing that you know, have a lot of dialogue as we do. but i mean, i can consider him a friend. i was glad that i could have that effect on randy to open his eyes up to see that you know something different. a c whatever may have been introduced to him or told him was proven to be a last day me madison.

tell me. i think we often think about this and terms of the ways in which they are failing us. they are bad men, they are floating away from us. they are deviant. and i think we need to ask the other question. also, we need to ask the question and how we are failing them. what kind of ways can we keep them in the center? and part of my answer to that is we have to find ways to keep them validated as men . it's really amazing. when people feel more whole quickly and easily ideology of hate falls away and if you can reconnect them to the people that they thought they hated. it helps know that i'm in the so that they realize that there are actually a part of the solution rather than contributing the problem. the 1st time

i've ever felt accepted any shape or form from anybody is actually with the wife after have another p 5 med just recently. i feel as if it's to grade so i want everybody to know the human being year instead of like mrs. touches. but i have person to be able to have the different cultures and different people here. it is really good to be able to close this to be able to interact because it teaches me that, you know, we're all in this together. this is a part of our lucian. farmers are, are evolving into a powerful force and justice, quality, love, peace, compassion. we are operating as human beings from one of 2 places. here allows me to choose which one that is or

will happen in the days following boston happened. it was such a turn out and just seemed that a mortgage support for countering that narrative of white supremacy it really flooded me with hope. i am proud that i can be a voice against what i used stamps or i feel like i have i have something to bring to the to among the bigger and better things. while i'm still mindful of what i owe to society. but no one's better served by my guilty shame at this point including me me. ready

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