to being afraid of iran, they do the same to the global community. they want people to be scared. i agree with you that the west has always or has long used propaganda as a, as a tool against countries that they disagree with. and that happened with regards to russia. there augusta run and with regards to many other countries. but if you look at the particulars of the story, you know, our young, 22 year old woman who was detained, intact run, it happened. she was visiting her brother. she was out of town and her family never got a chance to see her again. now, i know there are many speculations about what actually happened, that her family, for a long time was very bitter about the way how this whole situation was handled. i wonder as a, as a woman, as a mother of 2 daughters, as a university professor, i'm sure you have many similar students. what was your personal reaction not to the

weight was played out and used, but to the actual tragedy, to what happened to that girl, to that young lady and her family? my money, the way i see it as an iranian woman, as any iranian woman would. i certainly am distressed by this incident. in fact, i'm saddened by all of the incidents that have happened recently. but then again to drive the point home. both britain and america has been trying to infiltrate iran for years. there was this remarkable iranian woman who lived a 100 years before all that. she was the mother of the shop, under the influence of britain and america, she turned her son against your kabir, the shaw son in law, which resulted in his execution. this is what they've always done, infiltrating our society and exerting their influence,

sewing discord between family members and setting them against each other. they're doing the same thing to the entire iranian nation. this is what the devil does in mam khomeini called america the great satan. and it truly is america seeks to tempt and seduce. we have been living under the corrupting influence of america, britain, and their intelligence agencies for a 100 years now. still, we keep fighting back. it is because of this incitement and the pig like grunting of the americans and the british. bad things happen regardless. we do our best to defend ourselves, especially our unity and integrity, our mutual compassion and sense of justice before they seek to so discord among us to divide our people in our country. and their goal is to break up our country. many times we've seen america in britain attempting this, but we too have learned much and are prepared to defend ourselves. certainly,

the incident you mentioned makes me and everyone else in iran, very uncomfortable. all iranian women reacted strongly to this tragedy. but as soon as they realized they were being used, many of them change their minds. you can ask specifically about, hey job, because this issue has been politicized by western media from the very beginning of the iranian revolution. and there was always an issue around it. i've read that the morality police may have become more restrictive over the last couple of years because of um, you know, new job fashions that the younger women in iran practice, on the other hand, are being here on the campus of the university where you're teaching. we've seen a couple of young iranian women who do not cover their hats. i wonder what is the accepted practice when it comes to not only the legal but the culturally accepted

practice when it comes to hit up at this point of time, lose his. oh hamish, his yasir luck. the job has always been a political statement. about a 100 years ago, our country was ruled by a dictatorship that started to fight the his job in order to make us look more american. it was their way of imposing on us the standards of a foreign culture. and that's how it is always been. the her job has never been outside the realm of politics. i'm here to after the revolution. they had job became a hallmark a symbol of the changing identity of iranian cities and urban life of iran politics . and the very fabric of our political system wearing a he job has always been political and as and now what is truly important is the role of the he job as an instrument of cultural resistance against external domination or him can you name an art market removal wherever you look in public

offices in universities, in schools, all you see is the american european standard of clothing or take urban architecture or the way universities are organized. everything conforms to the same european american model. you should, he refused to accept the norm that you will be pressured, go them and criticized until you break. as you get. the job is a very special piece of clothing that has long been a part of our culture. maria her, it's not even about islam really more. the iranian women have always worn her job. i miss you. if you go to the talk to jim she'd you will see that all of the women there where he, john, i've been to moscow to bella. ruth, i've seen many of the russian speaking countries and the jobs that women wear are all very similar to the iranian his jobs. also, there are many similar sounding words and names. what we want to do is fight the

standards that america and europe are imposing on the rest of the world, including their standard of clothing. we are not going to accept the standard. we want to protect these parts of our culture. i'm sure that you, as a russian woman, have a pretty good grasp of the concept of modesty restraint. most women have a clear sense of what modesty is. iranian men understand it to me, to every iranian family. the entire, the clothes they wear is, in effect, an expression of modesty unrestrained. any woman would recognize an improper or in modest look. so for us, the job is an aspect of our identity culture. even morality, my former, it is one of our traditional values. there is a great variety of jobs in terms of color, size, and design. you still there are certain basic requirements for the job which are prescribed by law. she's naturally like any other country. you some agree with this

law and some deny. but in any case, once the law is in place, the police will enforce it. so it becomes a legal matter rather than an issue of morality or culture. as for the, his job specifically, it is an aspect of our culture and you can see for yourself the cultural diversity it offers in terms of color, size, and design. but like i said, there is a certain minimum requirement prescribed under the law. and naturally the police, since they must enforce laws, perhaps the police themselves would prefer to act more from a cultural perspective. but that could wash with their responsibilities under the law. if the law should change, we will develop a new legal mechanism by which this issue will be regulated. i think we need to distinguish between the law on the one hand and the realm of morals and ethics on

the other, his own. feel to my experience and i myself, married to muslim, i travel to many muslim countries and i know that the interpretation of his mom is very, very different. around the world. there are many different ways of practice, this religion. you come from a very conservative family, both your father and your husband, high ranking muslim clerics but i wonder what would you say to those iranians who have a somewhat more liberal, i guess more dress code, restrictive understanding of islam. do you think that way of practicing face is legitimate and then go from this kid? if i told you earlier that my field of study is education and pedagogy, americans understand very well that iranian women are the backbone of our resistance and the key to our victory. cultural resistance forms the foundation of

military resistance and the americans and their years long influence campaign have learned this lesson well. which is why they've made it their goal to destroy the institution of family in iran, and minimize the role of women all in order to influence the way we raise and educate children including our boys. they're literally attacking us through animation and movies, imposing values there alien to us, but considered during the iraq war. there were times when women, he's holding the bodies of their murdered children, chanted war war until victory. their voices and their words raised the spirits of the soldiers fighting on the front lines. they knew they couldn't go home empty handed. they had to keep fighting to restore justice. that's the essence of resistance. even women who resist the west also suffer economic sanctions and

hardship, but they teach their children how to overcome difficulties. boy, if the institution of family disappears, america's problems will disappear on their own. there will be no one left to defend our moral values. for many years iran was under the yoke of foreign powers, but it always fought to protect its language, farsi back to preserve it for future generations. and we always sought to protect our traditional clothing. every time the worries and the burdens fell on the shoulders of the women on the iranian family, not schools or universities. it was always the family that didn't have one in iran, even politics or a family matter. for example, a family would educate their children and political matters, but if a child grows up to change his or her mind about some political issue, he or she can change. the views of the rest of the family corner were in iran.

family is pivotal. it plays an educational role which manifests in both moral and political education, including teaching children politically literate behavior is unfortunately, people representing the dominant, aggressive culture have realised that to they have learned which buttons to push. but there is one more thing i would like with your permission to express my personal opinion on something. after we establish relations with china and russia and our neighbors in the region, we had to pay a much higher price. just because we got america all riled up. yes. so far we've been paying for making america furious. but this is the price we must pay for our president's multi polar policies. and for our people, they are actually quite enthusiastic. they understand that all of these developments in america, all of their propaganda, their temptations and incitement,

their attempts to alienate our youth, to turn them against their own sovereign country and etc. all these are to an extent the price we have to pay for having good relations with friendly countries and our neighbors question, we're still can i ask kills of personal rather than political question, even though it may sound as political i am there much personally interested in that because i think there is a difference between safe and dog. my heartfelt relationship with the almighty, you know, internally cultivated spirituality and socially or culturally endorsed religious narratives. do you think one can get in the way of another if he job is used as a cultural defense entre concerned that it may somehow impact

a person's own relationship with her that they alternate power has happened to him on? absolutely. that's what it is. we as well because you're married to a muslim man. you certainly know the koran says you cannot force a person to believe. but you can regulate behavior so that it conforms to accepted standards. you're here right now and you're not against the his job. but you have chosen your clothes, so they comply with iranian standard. so you can bring your actions in accordance with the law. the faith, however, comes from the heart which cannot be forced persuaded. it certainly adds its own dimension, but that's not what i wanted to say. those who have a strong faith will try to do what their heart tells them. you're a woman, so you know very well that women can easily identify people with inappropriate

intentions. so it's even possible that in some situations, a woman or even a man may feel a particular need for his job to provide greater cover. the main function of the his job is to make life easier for a woman and to protect her from those who mean harm. it's meant to help a woman feel at ease and avoid the risk of abuse. and this is what the prophet said, and it's written in the koran. it's not meant to create gender inconvenience for a woman. in fact, if you read a russian or an english translation of the koran, you will see that it says that we gave you the he job so that you may not worry also. and what were who can worry us. it's those who want to exploit us sexually, not those who would like to treat us respectfully. don't forget that the his job is meant not just for women, but also for men. him. the quran tells men to control their eyes, ears, and words,

so to speak. we all should exercise better control over words, and what we say, those who don't believe in it may cover themselves from head to toe and still send others unmistakable sexual messages. you see there's a whole range of levels between what goes on in your heart and your thoughts and behaviors. there at least 3 or 4 levels, the level of thoughts, the level of the heart and the level of behavior. these levels are interconnected. the job applies to all 3 levels, not just one. for example, there are women who seem to be decent on the outside, but who make sexual innuendos? it implies that they don't have the right convictions to more. those who have convictions of the things that really matter though there's a very strong connection. you can see it in the way people act in what they accept

whom they accept. if you don't love someone but tell him that you love him, it's a lie. if you don't love our lord, but tell him that you love him. he will know you are lying as because you are not prepared to pay him his due. so you're not prepared to try hard for his sake. so that is why the lord told us that he gave us this garment that this his job as a customary rule. if you accept it, you feel protected, they feel you are no longer bothered by inappropriate people. to us, if there are changes in the laws and customs of our country, it's possible that over time, many of the people who observe this law and think about it, people who can analyze it and penetrate its essence in their hearts, might agree is that, you know, that many women in different countries welcomed his job. while many women in iran are against the hid job. this is only natural. there's

a strong connection between the heart, the thoughts and the actions of a person or the biases and superstitions are in the realm of thought. what we don't accept in our hearts is manifested in our actions. but it may also be the case that what you're thinking about is not a bias or superstition, but your choice from this perspective the, his job can be a choice or take a law. you may consider it carefully and study the practice of observing it. so that its provisions help guide the way you act so that your actions comply with what the law prescribes. when we travel abroad, for example, we obey local laws, we obey the laws of the country, we go to, we obey passport laws, even if we may disagree with them. but we will still comply with these laws because they are laws. and because by doing so, we show our respect for the country. you yourself have been a very socially active woman. you are

a prominent scholar and your husband too. when he complained for presidents, he talked about women's rights and women social, which is sufficient to something god given. what do you think the government are around? the government that is headed by your husband can do to encourage more women to contribute to society, to be more socially practice. mo, as hunkers will hush guerrera. yesterday i invited your colleagues to visit the exhibition we organized, and i also invite you to so you visit it together tomorrow. you'll see their what our women are capable of. a tiny fraction of it, but it's better than nothing. any iranian government acts in the name of the revolution as the president has stressed to that women have much more opportunities to be active socially without having to sacrifice their moral and family values at

university. for example, also pregnant women get 5 semesters of maternity leave. even husbands can take a one year leave when their wives are pregnant. we organized child care and family university departments. women constitutes 60 percent of people there. most women, most young women today have higher education, us in. we have great opportunities in her on take a look at an iranian marriage certificate. there's a list of requirements. what husbands must provide women before marrying them soon . even now. there's a week of women and family going on in iran as we speak. and every day there is a massive celebration of women. when i bet we'll see a great difference if we compare iranian legal framework of women's rights protection and similar legislation and any other nation underscore every year our women athletes, when more metals than our men. we're currently working on expansion of our sports

opportunities for women. there's also a lot that has been done in this area 4 years ago during his election campaign. mister president vowed to make women more involved in social life. or here's a thing in any country, only 2 spheres come up when it comes to women as her personal and social. in iran, we have 3 personal, social and family. and they're usually interconnected. we have more and more opportunities. an emphasis is on protection and preservation of the family. we do everything in our power to help women be good mothers, happy wives, and actively participate in social life. yourself. a very accomplished professional woman, you have a ph. d, and philosophy of education. you run an important technology and science center, and i've, i know that your husband is not only understanding,

but quite proud of your professional success. i've read somewhere that he said that when he comes home and if you're not there and there's no answer. he's okay with that and i wonder how often do you cook dinner these days? has your life changed over the last year in my home? this much i'd like to talk about the 3 components of personal life is one's feelings, thoughts and behavior. social life is laws and rules. family life is tradition. mystery causes misunderstandings. what are rules and what is tradition. you can't have both at the same time. but we all have 3 personal sphere is our actions in line with our thoughts. what we do, what we believe is right in social life, our actions are governed by law news. but when marriage is concerned, it's tradition. we don't need police there. we don't need police to control family

. life tradition creates an agreement that we enter with our spouse. and since we have it, we try to adapt to each other instead of competing or that we compliment each other . we're allies, even when we're far away. it's not our culture or religion only. marriage is a tradition in intellectual culture as well, and we protect it all key ingredients of marriage and protection of life are in that agreement. and all we believe in this and we're ready to protect it. so let me you every one, remember what challenges we've overcome or failed to overcome because of the agreement we have in our families, in iran, this fear is under heavy attack. but we stand by our principles and do everything in our power to protect and preserve our culture. in reality, again, you've mentioned your husband is a muslim, so you must be familiar with the koran. there's an idea that says that even if you

don't love your wife, you must divorce, respectfully battery, even if you don't love her. it's crucial to preserve this tradition for that a lot has to be done yet. i would love to introduce this tradition to the world. this and other marriage and family traditions. not rules, not laws, not economic operations. until i think women lose out when they try to compete with men for wealth power and so on. they worry about their position in society about winning some one's respect. but when you look at how things get resolved through customer tradition, you can see that most men actually support women and do not cause them trouble. 12 or 3 days ago, a colleague asked me if it was possible that men will one day launch a campaign against women. like what women are doing against men today with feminism . i said it's impossible. i really wish that our religious scholars, the lama,

say that men must always protect and support women. my father told me that according to religion, the woman cannot be the head of the family because she needs to be supported by the family or the state. no one can say that it is the woman who should be the breadwinner of the family in the islamic law. there is no grounds for such a suggestion. you more so we cannot assert that the woman must always have economic support from the man. and she should be respected and valued for that you can easily find what i'm talking about in the verses of the koran. it speaks about how you should protect a woman's honor and mentions highly revered. women such as a c, n muddy m, but her personal belongings are her property. so whatever she has is her own. but again, she must not concern herself with obtaining food and buying clothes. it must be provided for her by her family. can i ask her a question about her, another insulin influential woman,

you mentioned the if you and i've read somewhere that you've read michelle obama's book becoming and that you found it very beautiful, exciting and impressive. and it's a very surprising admission from the 1st lady of wrong to say something so positive about the book of the former 1st lady of the united states. what struck a chord with you in that book? no favor could am give mass. yes, i suppose you only heard a part of what i said when i expressed doubt that she wrote the book herself. i think that she was helped by other people and said it's an interesting book from a literary perspective. but i haven't seen any other books by her. it seems that someone who has such a way with words would have written many books. but i've only seen one. so i doubt she did it all by herself. and another question i had was she may have dreams of being the 1st lady, but shouldn't an independent person aspire to stand out on her own and not live in some one shadow?

if i may ask you the last question regarding the book and i think one of the reasons why your comment was picked up is because you know how fiery the uranium leaders can be about the years had germany and use speaking positively or even reading that book. is pretty unusual for you know, a high ranking iranian woman, but you expressed your doubts about why would she dream about being a wife of a president and michelle obama is sometimes her name is mentioned as a possible candidate for future american presidency. if she were elected, do you think the relationship between your countries but in the united states in iran, could have been different, or could be different monthly this year? you know, if we speak about relations between iran and the united states, please let us distinguish between american scholars and scientists and the american

state. i read a lot of american books, and i respect many authors. for example, i often use works by douglas and zigzag sky and my classes mentally to. i have a lot of respect for thinking women from the u. s. in europe. i would really like to make contact with them. i hold them in high esteem and bring up their ideas in my classes. most of my students have read a lot of books by such authors. it has nothing to do with the state of relations between the governments of iran in the u. s. as you know, i'm a teacher and every teacher tries to keep up with the latest publications, novels and short stories are very important to us. a short story can express many cultural and value messages. i believe it's one of the reasons why american culture, his advanced so much because all these stories have been written. i was talking about the books i've read in general and very interested in books with the cultural

message. but it has little to do with contact between the state of iran in the united states. we want the united states to change its policy and respect us as a great nation. if you take a walk around of this university, you will see trees that are older than the united states. the trees that grow here on this campus are older than the united states, and the age of our country. our civilization is 15000 years. that's the age of the oldest city that archaeologists have found in iran and to be treated without respect by another country such as the united states is something we find very offensive. the attitude of outsiders is an issue that has been the subject of a lot of reflection in iranian culture. i guess all nations one the same respectful treatment or them. i'm really grateful to you for your time, for your hospitality. thank you very much for receiving us here with us. thank you

. as of the world media channel, the voice of the united states, you will definitely help by putting the voice of iranian women through to the global community. we are rarely heard such media as the bbc muffle our voice. quite often they don't let us say anything and send our messages to anyone. they've pulled press to these license. they don't let most iranian tv channels broadcast freely. and that is why i am grateful to you. ah, ah, germany is foreign minister, i don't mean a better box at the white barn out loud when she gleamed. european nations are fighting a war against russia. indeed, what has been called the gal is, in fact, the truth. the collective west is at war with russia and their client state ukraine

is losing with ah, the headlines right now. what are you international in the wake of a drone attack? iran reportedly summons are ukrainian, diplomatically questioning. after ukraine's presidential adviser says, an attack on iran would be expected. it might claim that supporting ruptures. miller trip to farm for the countries right. expect them not to interfere in the bilateral relations between the pakistan and russia. hackathons, foreign minister says cooperation between his mom about on moscow continues and that includes a youth plan for an oil pipeline. the country faces severe energy problem despite crippling west.