apple to that girl, to that young lady and her family. man, i follow no one here the way i see it as an iranian woman, as any iranian woman would. i certainly am distressed by this incident to her. what, in fact, i'm saddened by it was almost all of the incidents that have happened recently and was but then again to drive the point home. so that britain and america have been trying to infiltrate iran for years lived. there was this remarkable iranian woman who lived a 100 years before all that up at dawn. she was the mother of the shaw that under the influence of britain in america, she turned her son against america. beer me her. the shaw son in law, which resulted in his execution with her. this is what they've always done, infiltrating our society and exerting their influence, sewing discord between family members, setting them against each other. they're doing the same thing to the entire iranian

nation horn. this is what the devil does in mom khomeini called america, the great satan one, and it truly is america. so let's seeks to template and seduce. and we have been living under the corrupting influence of america to britain and their intelligence agencies for a 100 years. now when im still, we keep fighting back there it is because of this incitement. and the big like grunting of the american us and the british, that bad things, half a move for me. regardless, we do our best to defend ourselves, especially our unity and integrity, our mutual compassion and sense of justice and before they seek to so discord among us wanting to divide our people and our country that live in their goal is to break up our country. one, many times we've seen america in britain attempting this, but we too have learned much and are prepared to defend ourselves. cd, certainly the incident you mentioned make me and everyone else in iran,

very uncomfortable. i don't know all iranian women reacted strongly to this tragedy . but as soon as they realized they were being used by many of them change their mind, this is the for me, you can ask specifically about hey job. because this issue has been politicized by western media from the very beginning of the iranian revolution. and there was always an issue around it. i've read that the morality police may have become more restrictive over the last couple of years because of, you know, new job sessions that the younger women in iran practice. on the other hand, being here on the campus of the university where you're teaching, we've seen a couple of young iranian women who do not cover that has, i wonder, what is the accepted practice when it comes to not only the legal, but the culturally accepted practice when it comes to her job at this point of time

limited his or her, she is here, sir. look, and the job has always been a political statement. because about 100 years ago, our country was ruled by a dictatorship that started to fight the her job in order to make us look more american. but it was their way of imposing on us the standards of a foreign culture. and that's how it is always been. should the job is never been outside the realm of politics machine to an after the revolution. the job became a hallmark, a symbol of the changing identity of iranian cities and urban life of iran and politics. and the very fabric of our political system wearing a job has always been political as me. now, what is truly important is the role of the job as an instrument of a cultural resistance against the nation. more him, can you name an art market wherever you look at it and public offices and universities in rules,

all you see is the american european standard of clothing or take urban architecture in or the way universities are organized. everything conforms to the same european american model gave me to should he refused to accept the norm that you will be pressured, go them and criticized until the break. as it gets on. the job is a very special piece of clothing that has long been a part of our cultural em audio jolla. it's not even about islam really more did iranian women have always won their job, had made she, if you go to that talk to jim she'd, well, you will see that all of the women there where he john the donna, i've been to moscow to bella bruce i've seen many of the russian speaking countries and the jobs that women where are all very similar to the iranian jobs. think also there was no, there are many similar sounding words and name is april. what we want to do is fight the standards that america in europe are imposing on the rest of the world, including their standard of clothing. they notice that we are not going to accept

this standard a kish. we want to protect these parts of our culture out by the him, i'm sure the new as a russian woman have a pretty good grasp of the concept of modesty or restraint. but most women have a clear sense of what modesty is. that of an iranian men understand and to imitate every iranian with family club, the entire, the clothes they wear, which is in effect, an expression of modesty and restraint. laziness, on the order of any woman would recognize an improper or immodest long hers. so for us, the, his job is an aspect of our identity culture. even morality, my former, it is one of our traditional values here. and there is a great variety of jobs in terms of color, size, and design. mariani is still there are certain basic requirements for the job and one which are prescribed by law who sheesh naturally like any other country or used to some agree with this law or in some do not be have to. but in any case,

one of the law is in place, the police will enforce it. so it becomes a legal matter rather than an issue of morality or culture. as for the, his job specifically, it is an aspect of our culture and you can see for yourself the cultural diversity it offers in terms of molar science and design. but like i said, there is a certain minimum requirement designed under the law. she naturally wish the police, they must enforce laws and perhaps the police themselves would prefer to act more from a cultural perspective. but that could one why and when their responsibilities under the law. if the wash change, we will develop a new legal mechanism by which this issue will be regulated. and i think we need to distinguish between the law on the one hand and the realm of morals and ethics on the other. he's on it here, feel to my experience and i myself,

narrative muslim. i had trouble too many muslim countries and i know that the interpretation of islam is very, very different around the world. there are many different ways of practice, this religion. you come from a very conservative family, both your father and your husband, high ranking muslim cleric. but i wonder what would you say to those remy and who have a somewhat more liberal, i guess more dress code, restrictive understanding of islam. do you think that way of practicing faith is legitimate and then go from like if i told you earlier that my field of study is education and pedagogy, americans understand very well that iranian women are the backbone of our resistance and the key to our victory on cultural resistance forms the foundation of military resistance and the americans and their years long in lawrence campaign

have learned this lesson well more to have which is why they've made it their goal to destroy the institution of family and iran, and minimize the role of women all in order to influence the way we raise and educate children, including our boys, as they're literally attacking us through animation and movies, imposing values their alien to us, but considered to during the iraq war. there were times when women he is holding the bodies of their murdered children, chanted war and war until victory in your door. their voices and their words raised the spirits of the soldiers fighting on the front lines. but they knew they couldn't go home empty handed. who does, if they had to keep fighting, to restore justice, or that's the essence of resistance is leaking on women who resist the west. and we also suffer economic sanctions and hardship m. yeah. but they teach their children how to overcome difficulties. boy, if the institution of family disappears, men,

america's problems will disappear on their own. and more than that, there will be no one left to defend our moral values mickland. for many years. iran was under the yoke of foreign power as on the initial, but it always fought to protect its language, cab farsi wagon to preserve it for future generations. when we always sought to protect our traditional clothing adversary, every time the worries and the burdens fell on the shoulders of the women on the iranian families. that not soils or universities were there. it was always the family that denis evelyn, in iran, even politics are a family matter. for example, a family would educate their children and political matters. but if a child grows up to change his or her mind about some political issue, he or she can change the views of the rest of the family corner were in iran, family to seal his pivotal real hon. and it plays an educational role manifests

both moral and political education including teaching children politically literate behavior. unfortunately, people representing the dominant, aggressive culture have realized that to what they have learned which buttons to push. but there's one more thing i would like with your permission to express my personal opinion on something. after we establish relations with china and russia and our neighbors in the region, we had to pay a much higher price. just because we got america all riled up. yet, so far we've been paying for making america furious. so this is the price we must pay for our presidents, multi polar policy. and for our people, they are actually quite enthusiastic. she, they understand that all of these developments in america, all of their propaganda, their temptations and incitement, their attempts to alienate,

are you to turn them against their own sovereign country and etc. has given all these are to an extent the price we have to pay for having good relations with friendly countries and our neighbors coalition, we're still can i ask kills of personal rather than political question, even though it may sound as political i am there much personally interested in that because i think there is a difference between safe and dog. my heartfelt relationship as the almighty, you know, internally cultivated spirituality and socially or culturally endorsed religious narratives. do you think one can get in the way of another if he job is used as a cultural defense entre concerned that it may somehow impact a person's all relationship with her with the alternate power i was running to

the e. mong. absolutely. that's what it is. we as well because you're married to a muslim man. you certainly know the koran says cannot force a person to believe, but you can regulate behavior so that it conforms to accepted standards. you're here right now and you're not against the his job. the job is but you have chosen your clothes and roses, so they comply with iranian standard. so you can bring your actions in accordance with the law. me. faith however, comes from the heart which cannot be forced to persuade aslan and it's certainly adds its own dimension there. but that's not what i wanted to say to fill with those who have a strong faith will try to do any more what their heart tells them. but if you are a woman, so you know very well that women can easily identify people with inappropriate intentions orders. so it's even possible that in some situations, a woman or even

a man may feel a particular need for a his job to provide greater cover. as you said, the, the main function of the his job is to make life easier for a woman, and to protect her from those who mean harm hessen, it's meant to help a woman feel at ease and avoid the risk of abuse. and this is what the prophet said, and it's written in the koran. it's not meant to create gender inconvenience for a woman. in fact, what if, if you read a russian or an english translation of the koran, you will see that it says that we gave you the he job so that you may not worry or saw and what were, who can worry us? i don't, it's those who want to exploit us sexually. not those who would like to treat us respectfully, o'quinn again, don't forget that the his job is meant not just for women, but also for men at home. the quran tells men to can hold her eyes, ears, and words so to speak. i failed us. we all should exercise better control over

words. and what we say are those who don't believe in it may cover themselves from head to toe and still send others unmistakable sexual messages as yet. now you see why there's a whole range of levels between what goes on in your heart and your thoughts and behaviors. there are at least 3 or 4 levels, the level of thoughts. so the level of the heart and the level of behavior viji. these levels are interconnected, if on the, his job applies to all 3 levels, not just wanna are the only on her. for example, there are women who seemed to be decent on the outside that her, but who make sexual innuendos. it implies that they don't have the right convictions to more than those who have convictions for, for the things that really mattered. anyway. so there's a very strong connection kissing you can see it in the way people act. so heritage in what they accept and whom they accept. and if you don't love some one,

but tell him that you love him. it's a lie. if you don't love our lord, but tell him that you love him. yes, he will know you're lying as because you're not prepared to pay him his due to fate . you're not prepared to try hard for his sake. set your hold. that is why the lord told us that he gave us this garment, that this his jaw and as a customary rule, a suitable if you accept it, you feel protected the job. you are no longer bothered by inappropriate people. sharesa, if there are changes in the laws and customs of our country, it's possible that over time, many of the people who observe this law and think about it to the people who can analyze it and penetrate its essence in their hearts. might agree in this that way and you know that many women in different countries. welcome the, his job and his face. well, many women in iran are against the he job. but then after this is only natural, there's a on connection between the hard and the thoughts and the actions of a person who the biases and superstitions are in the realm of thought needed. what

we don't accept in our hearts is manifested in our actions. but it may also be the case that what you're thinking about is not a bias or superstition, but your choice. from this perspective, the job can be a choice or take a law. you may consider it carefully and study the practice of observing it so that its provisions help guide the way you act, so that your actions imply with what the law grimes. when we travel abroad, for example, we obey local law and we obey the laws of the country. we go to we obey passport laws, even if we may disagree with them in home, but we will still comply with these laws because they are laws. and because by doing so, we show our respect for the country. you yourself have been a very socially active woman. you are a prominent scholar and your husband too. when he can paint for presidency,

talked about women's rights and women's social participation is something god given . what do you think the government are around there? i think government that is headed by your husband can do to encourage more women to contribute to society, to be more socially proactive. mo, as hunkers will hush together. yesterday i invited your colleagues to visit the exhibition we organized, and i also invite you to see you visited together to morrow. and maybe you'll see there what our women are capable of. that was a tiny fraction of it, but it's better than nothing is any iranian government acts in the name of the revolution to us, the president has stressed to the women have much more opportunities to be acted socially without having to sacrifice their moral and family values so i'm taking that university for example for said her pregnant women, get 5 semesters of maternity leave care. even husbands can take

a one year leave when they're wise, her bridesmaid and we organized child care and family university departments. women constituted 60 percent of people there. most women and the most young women today have higher education, assuming we have great opportunities in her on it. to take a look at an iranian marriage certificate yada. there's a list of what wire mints. hm. what husbands must provide women lou for marrying them a series even now there's a, there's a week of women and family going on in iran as we speak. and every day there is a massive celebration of women owner. and i bet we'll see a great difference if we compare iranian a legal framework of women's rights protection and similar legislation in us. any other nation danesh, go home every year. are women athletes when the war metals, than our men? we're currently working on expansion of our sports opportunities for women. li, there's also

a lot that has been done in this area and 04 years ago during his election campaign . and when mister president vowed to make women more involved in social life. but i will ears a thing at all in any country. only 2 spheres come up when it comes to 1000000, we'll put personal and social image in iran, we have 3. i mean, i know personal, social and family. and they're usually interconnected. we have more and more opportunities and emphasis is on protection and preservation of the family. we do everything in our power to help women be good mothers, my happy wives, and actively participate in the show like yourself. a very accomplished professional woman. you have a ph. d and philosophy of education, you run an important technology and science center. and i, i know that your husband is not only understanding but quite proud of your professional success. i've read somewhere that he said that when he comes home and

if you're on the deer and the dinners. no, sir, he's okay with that and i wanted to house and do you group dinners these days? has your life changed over the last year and min hone service master that i'd like to talk about the 3 component of your personal life is one's feelings, thoughts and behaviors. social life is laws and rule. family life is tradition. mystery causes misunderstandings. what are rules and what is tradition? you can't have both at the same time. but we all have 3 personal fear is our actions in line with our thoughts. when we do what we believe is right. in social life, our actions are governed by law. but when marriage is concerned with the traditional, we don't need police there. we don't need the police to control family life. or the tradition creates an agreement that we enter with our spouse. and since we have it,

we try to adapt to each other instead of competing more than we compliment each other. we are allies, even when we're far away. it's not our culture or religion only. marriage is a tradition, intellectual culture as well. and we protect it and all key ingredients of marriage and protection of life are in that agreement and ever take all we believe in their system and we are ready to protect it as hon. so is let me let you every one. remember what challenges we've over come back or failed to overcome all because of the agreement we have in our families, in iran, in this sphere is under heavy attack. but we stand by our principles and do everything in our power to protect and preserve our culture to her. in reality, again, you've mentioned your husband is a muslim, so you must be familiar with the koran. there's an eye as it says that. and even if you don't love your wife, you must divorce, respectfully battery,

even if you don't love her one, it's crucial to preserve this tradition. if for that, a lot has to be done yet. and i would love to introduce this tradition to the world . this and other marriage and family traditions. not rules, not laws, not economic operations. you really tell, i think women lose out when they try to compete with men for wealth power and so on . they worry about their position in society, about winning someone's respect. but when you look at how things get resolved through custom and tradition, you can see that most men to actually support women and do not cause them trouble as a whole 12 or 3 days ago, a colleague asked me if it was possible that men will one day launch a campaign against women, like what women are doing against men to day with feminism. to i said it's impossible 100 of it. i really wish that our religious scholars, the lama, say that men must always protect and support women richmond. my father told me that

according to religion, the women can not be the head of the family because she needs to be supported by the family or the state is johan, no one can say that it is the woman who should be the breadwinner of the family in the islamic law, there is no grounds for such a sin. just show you more there. so we cannot assert god and also the woman must always have economic support from the man. and she should be respected and valued for that. you can easily find what i'm talking about in the verses of her on. it speaks about how you should protect a woman's honor and mentions highly revered women such as a cl, marianne, but her personal belongings are her property, so whatever she has is her own. but again, she must not concern herself with the pertaining food and buying clothes. it must be provided for her by her family. can i ask your question about another instant, influential women? you mentioned a few, and i've read somewhere that you've read michelle obama's book, the coming and that you found it very beautiful, exciting and impressive. and it's

a very surprising admission from the 1st lady of wrong to say something so positive about the book of the former 1st lady of the united states. what struck a chord with you in that book? i don't care, masha so i suppose you only heard a part of what i had when jo, i expressed my doubt that she wrote the book from i think that she was helpless by other. it's an interesting book from a literary perspective. but i haven't seen any other books by her. it seems that someone who has such a way with words would have written many books. but i've only seen one i saw with. so i doubt she did it all by herself and then you're going to get another question i had was she may have dreamed of being the 1st lady, but shouldn't an independent person wired to stand out on her own and not live in someone shadow? would that if i may ask you the last question regarding the book and i think,

or one of the reasons why your comment was picked up, is because you know, how fiery the uranium leaders can be about the years had germany and speaking positively or even reading that book is pretty unusual for you know, a high ranking iranian woman, but you expressed your doubts about why we, she dream about being a wife of a president and michelle obama is some times her name is mentioned as a possible candidate for future american presidency. if she were elected, do you think the relationship between your countries within the united states and iran could have been different, or could be different? my say this, you see about relations between iran and the united states. please let us distinguish between american scholars and science. and the american and i read a lot of american books and i respect many authors, for example,

i often use works by douglas and the exec sky and my classes and literally to i have a lot of respect for thinking women from the us and europe. kids, i would really like to make contact with i hold them in higher team and bring up their ideas in my classes. most of my students have read a lot of books by such author is. it has nothing to do with the state of relation between the governments of iran and the us as well as you know, i'm a teacher not to show me. and every teacher tries to keep up with the latest publication. novels and short stories are very important to us. a short story can express many cultural value messages whenever i believe it's one of the reasons why american culture in advance so much. because all these stories were in. i mean, i was talking about the books i've read in general and very interested in books with the cultural message. but it has little to do with contacts between the state of iran and the united states. and we want the united states to change in policy

and respect us as a great nation. if you take a walk around to this university, you will see trees that are older than the united states. in the trees that grow here on this campus are older than the united states and the age of our country. our civilization is 15000 years past. that's the age. the oldest city that archaeologists have found in iran buying and to be treated without respect by another country such as the united states is something we find very offensive lapses. the attitude of outsiders is an issue that has been the subject of a lot of reflection in iranian culture. and i guess all nations are one the same respectful treatment towards them. i'm really grateful to you for your time, for your hospitality. thank you very much for receiving us here. man. as for the 2nd one, i am thank you. as most of the world media channel, the voice of the united states,

you will definitely help by putting the voice of iranian woman woman on through to the global community. so they, we are rarely heard such media as the bdc muffle. our voice has quite often they don't let us say anything and send our messages to anyone. they've pulled press tea, these license, they don't let most iranian tv channels broadcast freely. and that is why i am grateful to you. oh ah. ah ah,

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