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ah ah, we have never intentionally violated any sombre infantry territory. that's the message from china as the u. s. suggest that beijing is deliberately using a balloon bomb them inside thing, a ties on russian regions for moscow condemned us to live long range rockies to ukraine, which could potentially hit crimea. plus as the world's largest logistics company employs the new robot we discussed what's next for a i tag on the mac, fed rise of the machines later this hour with
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the moscow for the world. this is all the international. my name is peter scott, and he's the top stories this. our thanks for joining us. beijing has slammed washington for what it calls us hysteria over a chinese weather balloon in american ass base. as washington accused, it accused beijing of using the aircraft to spy on the country. this was a complete accident caused by a force, missouri, and the facts. a very clear. china has always strictly abided by international law, respect of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of all countries, and has never intentionally violated the territory and air space of any southern country. some politicians and media in the united states have taken advantage of the issue to attack and discredit china. china form that opposes this. all this footage appears to show a 2nd chinese balloon travelling over latin america. the pentagon has also labeled its a chinese surveillance device, but china is not yet commented on that. the chinese balloon was previously spotted
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floating over the city of billings in the states of montana. this footage are paid on social media and some uses believe the balloon may have exploded. as this video appears to debate us, defense officials have denied reports. the balloon could have been shot down. meanwhile, the panic is still spreading over fairs that such balloons could actually be used as surveillance tools. some even saying that it could be used as a weapons of a joe biden has simply refused to explain why the chinese balloon is still hovering over american land. oh, that is the public that have a right to know a little certainly has the ability to look up in the sky. and she were, the blueness blotted kellum open examines whether this scandal is just a load of hotter. i know has confirmed that this is a chinese balloon as a weather balloon used for media logical research by the chinese authorities. now
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they have made clear of this balloon serves no military purpose. it's not being used for spying or anything of that. a fact. it's simply for monitoring the weather . this balloon is of chinese origin. it was 1st over the aleutian islands than it was in billings, montana. there is some concern about the possibility that it's near nuclear sites that it's also been confirmed by a number of experts in the united states that there is nothing that could be obtained from such a balloon that couldn't easily be attained by china with satellites. i was satellites, they could just as easily get any information and that there is no threat to civilians posed by this balloon. this is not a weaponized balloon. this is not a drone or anything like that. there is no danger to civilians by this balloon. now it is worth noting, however, the antony blanket, the u. s. secretary of state did cancel his meeting with the chinese president and i canceled it saying that this balloon is the reason i made clear that the presence of the surveillance balloon in you as her space is
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a clear violation of your sovereignty and international law. that it's an irresponsible act, that the p r c's decision to take. the section on these my plan visit is detrimental to the suction of discussions that we were prepared to have. now the language that's being used by us officials and by us media is there referring to it as a spied balloon, and there are reports of another balloon somewhere in latin america, possibly another balloon of chinese origin. and it is worth noting that beijing has apologized for this balloon, and they said it was not their intention to violate us aerospace this balloon went off course. however, beijing has been pretty firm to denounce the anti china town and the anti china hysteria. the wave of hostility to china. we're now hearing in american media now there is a social media bonanza going on. of course, all kinds of names and images, people, invoking star wars, the death star, all kinds of science fiction. you know,
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there's memories of sputnik in the panic in the united states back in the 1950s in response to the soviet union want launching the the spacecraft and, you know, people are making all kinds of comparison. it's been the talk of american media. however, at this point, china is pointing out, this is the unintentional violation of us aerospace by a balloon that could not really threaten to anyone that has no danger, even according to us experts. they're saying that their territorial integrity was intentionally violated by nancy pelosi. she went on to china's territory and i was without the permission of the us recognize chinese government. the u. s. government recognizes one china. so china is pointing out that while they are not intentionally violating any countries, territorial integrity or airspace, it appears the united states ban on continuing to kind of haunt shina with their provocations around taiwan that are definitely intentional and involved more than
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just balloons. and this point high ranking officials and there is also may be pointed out that us drones and other us aircraft have violated character integrity and aerospace of. ready countries throughout history, this kind of thing is happening from the us side. however, this has not stopped american media from going into an anti china overdrive. there is all kinds of very fierce allegations and heated language being displayed on us media and from us officials, china specialist until long calls the time and location where the chinese bloom was detected. quite sensitive to the us, large countries, especially united states and also china and yvonne's nations. the use for when satellites to monitor other countries and also even spy planes. the united states particularly have also spike legs flying over or near other countries
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territories. the space a space where the balloon is discovered as a sensitive even though the united states administration, you know, has a balance on the details, but generally known to montana is the side of the united states in the continental basis. so i think that this is very sensitive in this sense of the time and presidential election coming up for president barton has got no choice but deferred to visit. so that doesn't mean that there were 2 stars with the gang. but as i said, even did they do meet. i don't think we are seeing a high possibility the relationship with rework to the warmer days a couple of years ago or so. the defense ministry says the 63 of its service men have been returned from ukraine as part of a prisoner for deal between moscow and key of the agreements with brokers. with the help of the united arab emirates, the russian military out of all of its return soldiers are receiving psychological
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and medical assistance as well. some of them told us she wanted to go home so badly would call the support from our nearest and dearest. it's all right now we're finally home. thanks to everybody who rescues from captivity many times to those guys. on the front lines now where residential areas in the city of done yet have been shared by ukraine on saturday morning. at least one person was wounded according to local officials, ortiz room a quarter visited, one of the sites ukrainian nationalists use them multiple launch a rocket systems against civilians in the center of the next at least 11 apartment buildings that were damaged as a result, one of them is right behind me. right now. emergency workers are trying to dig through the rubble. apparently there could be 3 people buried under the rubble there. it's a family husband, wife and the wife's brother williams about the users wanna treat them with what
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appears i live in this building. on the 3rd floor, there are 2 apartments in the block which still have residence. one is mine, the other one on the 5th floor was directly hit. the strike hit just an hour after i spoke to my neighbor on the phone. his car is still in the yard. i can't get through to him now. the rescue team has just found his wife's phone. last night there was an eerie silence. and now in the morning, here we are. suits of floors of this building were destroyed by the ukraine and artillery shedding. now the shilling itself took place during the day when most of the people were at home and the area where the shells i hit here and, and his covers a radius all for one kilometer. and this area is a strictly civilian. absolutely no military in this area. well, the latest attack comes as washington's pledge to send ground launched small dumpster bomb long range rockets to ukraine,
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which would enable care to strike much further than current weapons. now moscow has criticized the delivery saying that the u. s. is pushing ukraine to attack russia. washington sees no boundaries in seeking to inflict a strategic defeat in russia. the transfer of increasingly powerful weapons to the keepers. him is a deliberate escalation of the conflict body united states. that ministration has been almost everything on the credit cards, its own national authority, the money of american taxpayers, and the lives of ukrainian soldiers. at this rate, the note states could go to opposite madness like given father. jess, washington is defect in southern its prestige is to attack russian regions. the ground launched a small diamonds. a boma has a range of around a 150 kilometers which is twice the distance of ukraine's current highmark rocket launchers, which will also supplied by the u. s. long range. missiles are set to be highly accurate and can be fired from hidden positions to avoid detection. washington says the new weapons will enable ukraine to attack territories, including crimea,
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which has been part of russia in 2014 the small diameter bomb in the latest ukraine aid package has the potential the target crimea. is that the intent behind providing now? so thanks for the question, joe. so, so yes, as part of the usa i package, we will be providing ground launch small diameter bombs to ukraine. this gives them a longer range capability, long range virus capability that will enable them again to conduct operations in defense of their country and to take back their sovereign territory and russian occupied areas. earlier we discussed the issue with the co director of the international arson center, sarah flounders, who says that the us is intent on checking out the conflicts. us isn't ignoring the warnings they are deliberately, deliberately provoking further and further, or they know the consequences of this. and they're more than willing to push ahead
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. there's an enormous number of weapons and us, you know, inventory to big lots of choices. but it's clear that each choice is meant to expand the war to do more damage. not in any way to reach a resolution. it will also mean on, on rushes parts that they will have to go further into ukraine in order to secure their borders. the rushes lashes borders. so it's an expansion of the war. it's very dangerous. there's no reason for it. it's more money, but higher grade of weapons that actually have doubled. the range comes amid more over night starts by ukrainian forces on the region of lew guns. good multiple high mas rockets. you have both. the also targeting versus infinity bomb launcher is also known as heavy flame throwers. arts either senior correspondent, right, because the of brings this report from the front on the battlefield. there is
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nothing that ukrainian troops and nationalists fear more than this. a machine that has instantly broken in car battalions and turn the tide of countless battles. it's u. s. one. although barry multiple, a rocket, larger system and perhaps the deadliest weapon currently fielded on the battlefield . and ukraine 24 rockets, 270 kilograms eat far into a distance from 6 to 10 kilometers and absolutely fatal to anything within a 150 meter radius asked only silly. our main talk is how large concentration is a phantom troops, 20 or more people,
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and also vehicles. any one caught within the bus radius has particularly no chance of survival, thermo barrick, munitions or vacuum bombs on nothing like conventional munitions. it isn't shrapnel that kills but flash burn and crushing over pressure which causes instant death. you can't hide from this behind a wall. only a hermetically shield bunker offers protection and there are none here. her crowd, ah, now is always for the purposes of correcting florida. i was in the sky remote spot where it landed that new gordon that and off they go again. 20 full rockets, 6 and a half tons of annihilation. hope
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these rockets are usually fired in ones or twos as little point of full barrages. a single rocket practice, as shown, is usually overkill. almost nothing survives within a 150 meters of the impact site. listed on the survey, leroy, where all this ready. we get a job done when i fight for my family and those close to me. we're all here for our homeland. we're here to help our boys. the san say book translated a sunburn or sun. fire is always the top priority for ukrainian forces. it cannot stay anywhere long. it cannot far from the same place, twice. he ab spares, no one and nothing to fight and destroy these machines. after all,
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they have devastated ukraine's ranks like nothing else or at gasdio. archie, danny, it's gretchen. and finally, germany based d h l, which the world's largest logistics company has become the 1st firms use a boston dynamics robots, which is called stretch to unload trucks. and this comes with one year after the shipping giant's invested $15000000.00 into robotics solutions. boston dynamics says that the stretch robots can perform multiple task autonomously, as well as identify items in the warehouse without pre programming. meanwhile, google's invested nearly $400000000.00 in chance. bought startup charts, g p t. the software functions as a chat box for internet searches. i can even write and debug it custom computer code. well, is the rise of the robots on the i good or bad thing to settle the debate once of
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roll here on our see where joined live now by luca longo off it's artificial intelligence research and dr. silver come out the foreign policy x. but gentlemen, thanks very much for joining me today. first of all, i might ask you both briefly, to lay out your positions on the use of robots and they are in the workplace or the areas i'm starting with. you please luke, or if you don't mind. yes, thanks for having me here. i think in general, artificial intelligence is a, is a good things for, for humans in the workplace or in indication like where it work in terms of robotics. these things are happening. moreno manufacturing companies chain as you described, a d h l, and i don't see many problems in using robotic automation in, in, in manufacturing. james, we just need to pay attention about data surrounding these new technologists. that's great, nicest. the thing. thank you very much. dr. silver come out,
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what's your position on this fear? science and artificial intelligence is something which is controlled and it is its program to such, you know, and we have seen many times in the past that, that use artificial intelligence by human at times leads to danger of situation. we are aware of many instances where in japan, you know, like i'm and roberts have kim, human being so such, ran the programming had gone wrong. it's not, you know, artificial intelligence and signs used in optimum b and then a minimum be beneficial problem and kind. but it cannot replacement kind of the facts, you know, and specialty for countries like india, which is labor intensive already. and tiffy tanami artificial intelligence central . but the science cannot replace the, you know, the technical labor for our country as such. and you know, he to be
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a dangerous trend is be shipped to us, artificial intelligence and complex. okay, thank you very much. will i still from nods of agreement that by luke, i don't know what sort of debate this will be if you're both going to agree, but i was going to start off with the age old question. luke, and i'm sure you've answered this a 100 times. does it not mean that people are going to lose that jobs? well, and that's, as you said, erica and questions not there. the answer is not for a simple reason because of course, robotic out to nation robots. we replaced some of the human in the mall, is the adar does tasks, but those human dogs were both needs to be monitored. so we, we are introducing new types of jobs for humans, for example, monitoring. so these robots, so, but actually we are creating new opportunities for, for, for, for employers and for employees. now, civil,
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can i get the feeling that you agree with this, given your answer. but it is a good thing that these robots are replacing, repetitive menial and back back break in jobs such as the ones possibly in detroit, d, h, l, unloading boxes from trucks. you know, people suffer many health problems where, when involved in such a laborious tasks and people might get the puzzles more quickly. if it's more efficient, i get the sense that you think this is a good thing. absolutely. yes. okay. as i said earlier wrong, so that i mean they could be used in a minimum way and an optimum be then it can be beneficial for mankind. but it cannot be a replacement for human technology or bothered met about human being says back i'm in in my country. i am aware of that. yes, we do use that technique or artificial intelligence and medical appliances,
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as well as in heavy engineering, as well as than software engine space engineering as such. but then these are used only pottery purch and development such and not as a replacement for human beings as such. our scientific and our doctors are well known that close the globe, you know, like, our scientists are doing so randomly. nasa as well as ben i m f as well as the wall bank and other international institutions. you know, obviously call those that people invest. some countries are hiring india and brains . far technical research and for higher research at family practice here in india. ok. as i had mentioned earlier, also that people laboring 1050 to nami. we had bought in young population. this young population of our country is doing very well. yes, we do use the robot to sign and the artificial intelligence, but then the bottom of the key architectural take signs, then the artificial intelligence lives in the hands of the human finger rest. so
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i'll be pleased to be human being which controls that, you know, there are many, many industrial read artificial intelligence and drove what the science cannot be out of placement. that's such what i just give. just give me 5 seconds. i'll finish that. so for example, in relation to r, m s m e industrial or cottage industrial be industrial, which is heavily dependent on a 2 culture and on small scale and medium and cottage products, there is no user population intervention center, but expands because these are all labor intensive industries, so far you can always reach our labor already into specialty economics of india and china. i think occupational intelligence and sons cannot be a replacement for men. come well talking about replacements for mankind. you bring me on very nicely to my next question for luca,
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and you don't need me to tell you this obviously as, as one of the experts. and if it would have been leaps and bounds in a, i couldn't shut g p t, which we mentioned earlier, which i believe passed illegal exam is another chance that we can go a little bit too far with this. maybe lawyers getting replaced or, or even tv presenters with scripts, written by eye and deep fake presents is sitting behind the in the studio. where do you draw the line? well, you see, for example, and that our students use a touchy b t for their assignment as well. i was gonna mention that. yeah. ok. and so the problem for me is not the use of g p, p to, to, to get some pre for me up to the text. because anyway, as humans, we go to, we can be there, we go to other in the copy the online. and we take information online, so judge it could be just the means to have 3 craft knowledge. the problem is how we agree gate, the knowledge, how we use these knowledge in an ethical way. so i think the problem should be,
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for example, on the professor side that they should check the semantics behind these, these pieces of text and not just the actual sentence that the professor develops, the correctly called the professor, checking the students exam. we see, even if even a professor will take, take her an essay for my students needs to read these a said, but as you mentioned, there is no much difference between what g b t produces and what the human produces. but the professor has some expertise that they i, the g, b, d does not tab which is exactly the semantic i was talking about. for example, i teach a research design and i encourage students to use g p d because is not the problem of getting the information from different sources. g p t is just one source of this is how we aggregate this new information in a nice story that told in semantics, steve, come out,
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is it not just the case throughout the humanity, whatever happens, you can't stop progress, progress, whatever the human costs may be and then sooner or later, we are going to have to embrace, i will robots, obviously manual labor positions and maybe more, but more widely given the efficiency and the reduction labor costs to the producers. it's not inevitable. whatever happens. no, i don't think sorry to inevitable as such because my fishing line is very, very clear. as i have for, i could say that artificial intelligence and turnover take signs cannot be replaced meant for human science that thought, you know, might be 30 percent all day to day walk can be controlled or can be program to artificial intelligence center, go back fence, but not 100 percent, after all 70 percent of that has to be done by human beings, and specially par alia, which are related to social, $5.80,
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which are related to manage and areas reach. grab that is a lot of animals that needs to be done. a lot of analytical science it's required, there are about the signs or robot cannot be the replacement. robotic science and entrepreneurial in intelligence can only be performed. reach out math in areas which mathematical as thought, you know, like the out. you cannot ask that robot to give, give up valuation of things in social science on, in society or in social situations where 2 plus 2 can be 5. also 2 plus 2 can be 3 also. it's not necessarily that in human sciences. i mean, you know, in human behavior on it, in society, it has to be, except for as thoughts, you know, so in those kind of us, canada, your robot or artificial interventions, programmed things become facts the likely in metro area, less suspects than the jalen situation. suppose any of that as a factory dispute,
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if there is a labor entre dad, you need to create data. you need a technocrat who can handle the switch and you need a person from business management or from social plans to him. just handle that kind of a situation out robot, or for that matter, a program to pick up an artificial intelligence cannot, cannot control our labor andres or cannot control bond or a hot pal, some the, you know, after all, in those kind of a human, just regret so therefore, whether it's invest in countries or whether it's in developing countries are in labor intensive. countries also artificial intelligence central. but the signs cannot do the replacement, they're not 100 percent, re, might be infect 7 countries, replacement could be higher. it could be some bear on say, 16 percent human being st. paul cooper, central, but big science and artificial intelligence. but for today, but in terms of countries like india and how to feature data ratio would be 18
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percent human contribution and 20 percent. okay. okay. you've made the point. yeah, you've made the point clear. now you did mention a technocrat and bureaucrats before and you're on some good. but you know, luca considering again gpc been a number of politicians including the israeli president. that's as recently part of the speech with a i, i believe in an american representative did something very similar. his name does escape me. now, should we be concerned about the impacts on democracy if people are, you know, just dusting out speeches which i say i and bring them off. the problem i think is not to in the production of speeches in texas. the problem is ha, how we use these, these, these text for, for, for in the public, for a persuasion, for granting democracy. so it's again, a line is about how we use the tax, the speeches that you formation we produce alone or we, they,
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i or with the i alone and analyzing the impact of d is the consequences of the information to the public. as, as he said to, to the social environment we living. how do you suggest we control where such text on information? you might be quite tricky. it is, streak, it is tricky. there are lots all the, there are, there is an emerging there part by me now, which is the, for example of propaganda detection. and is a very that can co challenge because you really need to go into the text deeply and analyze the semantics, analyze the order of the words, the order of the sentences, and is not an easy problem. next life i cannot be a humans cannot be replaced by. yeah. because if there is something that is missing is exactly the reasoning. the human reasoning we process that the does not him,
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does the silver come out the any final thoughts you'd like to share before we bring this debate to a close? well, i think the other spot has all most agreed to what i have said. you know, and you get off about politicians using program speeches. now i can cite in innumerable number of examples where you have, you know, you have program to your speech and you have defy, did that. whatever has been dictated in that program to speech of us, you are going to read that out in front of the populate in the, in front of the audience where you have gone far, everything i'm missing, but then the audience want to hear something else from you and not exactly the speech you have program, you know now in that kind of a scenario, our robot on our program speech of occupational intelligence cannot be a replacement for something which the audience wants to hear, which is.

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