of sim, which is good for that. you really do little hulu, suggestively. be low. ah, something more, less you heard you do? less good. ah, mr. ayana, thank you for taking the time to talk to this. i would like to start with the initiatives that have been proposed since the beginning of the year. can you outline some of them my career is a you and diplomat began during perestroika when the uses saw still exist it back than the soviet union always proposed and actively promoted a key initiative ahead of every general assembly. it was done every year. we have stop that practice because we don't want to come up with initiatives just for the sake of the initiatives. of course we prepare them and some of them are long term

like development. the convention on counseling, the use of inflammation and communication technologies for criminal purposes. it is all initiative that is being discussed. the thursday creation session has just and it, it wasn't easy while the process is underway. as for this year, we've only had 3 weeks of walk in day so far. but what i can share with you is that if you middle eastern countries have asked us to organize events that would support the conference on this tablet meant of a middle east zone, free of nuclear weapons, and all the weapons of mass destruction. we've been involved in working on that initiative. it is going to take a month or a month and a half to prepare it thinks are going well so far. we'll see. that's what i can share with you for now. maybe one more thing. we feel like it's necessary to make holden ation between like minded, conscious, more efficient. there is a long list of counselors, the chair ross is tonsil international fairs. we communicate with them, but i think we could do better in that respect. we are currently discussing ways to

improve that here in vienna. how has to work with international organizations changed since the beginning of the military operation in crane? how biased are they? to some extent, there has always been bias. now they're significantly more of that. this is not a healthy situation. we really feel it here in vienna for 40 years. the so called vienna's periods, the spirit of partnership and consensus has been prevalent here. now it has disappeared completely, and that is all new reality, which we must navigate, finding new ways to work and communicate. so yes, there is boys, and it is quite obvious. if we talk about nuclear security is some kind of dialogue with the west possible. there is any type of dialogue with the west possible right now.

when you said nuclear security, i immediately thought about my field, my area of expertise, the international atomic energy agency has its own mission. it's not really about this strategic relations between great powers. our objective is to ensure the safety of nuclear sites like nuclear power stations and so on. if i understand correctly, you want to know about strategic relations. these corporation is at an extremely low point right now. news thought is still valid, but we don't expect any new treaties to be signed in this context. it's unrealistic, in order to revive the dialogue, the u. s. would have to adjust their cost significantly. right now their actions are hostile towards russia. what's the solution? i wish i knew tom will tell. can you tell us about the nuclear security at this approach in nuclear power plant?

we know about the i e a's involvement. how effective has this involvement been? we know that the plant has come under fire a few times despite the presence of international experts. why is it so hard to set at that protection? so there we invited iaa experts to the 0. she nuclear plants hoping that they would be able to get a more checked of you on what's happening there. that mission hasn't been successful in our opinion. the november reports which some top the 1st 2 months of the i. e. a presence of the plants was biased. we share that in public, and in all private conversations with the i, e, a secretariat. let's see what they say in the february report that should be rated before the board of governors meeting in march. i'll 2nd objective was to bring international acts was there so that the ukrainians would stop firing in the direction of the nuclear plants? that was our hope. it is happened the 1st,

but in the last few months since november 20th the haven't been any incidents of ukrainian pseudo the plans directly. i guess several factors play the role here, including the presence of agency employees. as for the failure to set up a protection zone, this one main reason why it's not happening. the ukrainians are not ready to embrace the proposals made by the agencies director, general rafael grossey. it's been almost 5 months since the proposal was handed over to russia and ukraine. we was tal reactions and suggested certain adjustments while the ukrainians haven't said anything specific yet. why do you think they're doing this? i assume they have all the priorities. they don't want to have their hands tied in terms of firing at the nuclear facility. i wouldn't rule this out, especially now that the i e, a officials present the are not authorized to say who's responsible for the firing that took place. we saw this happen in the autumn in august. it's not in the i ace

mandate. and the ukraine us took advantage of that in the autumn. as for the negative consequences of ukrainian conflict, we see europe trying to wean itself of its dependence and russian energy. how do you assess rash as prospects of resuming partnership with the european countries in the energy sector? i don't think the kind of partnership we used to have as possible, at least in the foreseeable future. part of the russian energy supply contrast will remain, of course, at least for some time. but the scale is different, as is the efficiency level. however, this was an informed choice made by the european countries. it's there, right? did i get you right there once the war is delta? and we do hope that this will happen sooner. rather later, things won't be getting back to the pre conflict levels. the europe has successfully replaced russia as its main gas supplier. and it's going to stay that

way very much. so apparently i'm talking about my personal perceptions here. i can be wrong. however, the repeat energy sector will never be self sufficient. so what they're really looking at now is replacing their dependence on russia with a dependence on all the energy supplies is pretty much irrational. instead of purchase and cheap brush and guess the anal pain for american liquefied natural gas, which is several times more expansive. this makes me think, although well known wash and joke about a boy who chose to have his ease, frostbitten just to vex his grandma. that's exactly what is happening now. lemme tell you that. starting from january the 1st all it's trisha to bill here in vienna has tripled compared to last year. and i'll chief accountant expects it to reach a 7 digit figure in iraq by the end of the year. so these policies have extremely negative consequences for europe and it's economy, but i'll repeat,

they consciously chose this option, even if letting your economic interests been dominated by ill conceived political plans to that extent is completely irrational. to what extent have the europeans become self sufficient in terms of energy supplies? once russia was slap with sanctions, they had to look for other options and managed to replace or dependence in russia by buying energy from other countries. as a result, energy bills are skyrocketing, as he said, the u. s. can't have been unaware of all these repercussions, but even knowing that the european friends would suffer, didn't stop them from doing this right. however, the sanctions did help europe to become more self sufficient in terms of energy. don't you think? no, they've become less dependent on russia, suppliers, but they're still retained their dependency on energy supplies from other countries,

including the u. s. more or the terms of fall as favorable for them now. but do u. s is getting a lot of money for these supplies the us was the only country that benefited from war. will she? by the way, for a number of reasons, while the soviet union and europe war devastated by that war, the u. s. on the contrary, made a hugely forward hair comically do you think that's what the us had in mind when the sanctions were discussed? i mean that they'll be earning more money by supplying more gas to europe after russia has been sanctioned. do you think that this was the plan as delta lot was economic sanctions in my work, even if only within the u. s. system i can tell you that the americans have a lot of expertise and experience as far as sanctions are concerned. i think it was

all into a plan. there was only one miscalculation. it was the 1st time that sanctions were introduced against the big and poll for country such as russia and it has turned out they don't actually walk the way the west expected them to the sanctions create problems for all shelf course. but at the same time, they boost growth and force russia to rely more on its potential process. you and to comic indicators look quite decent. actually, the west intention to cross, the russian economy failed and they admitted themselves why do you think the west has failed to seriously harm russia? is it because of russia's pivot towards china and other countries like india and pakistan? it was one of the factors. let me say this again. sanctus used to be imposed from small or medium sized countries. and the more effective, for example, the averse we've been sanction slapped on the former yugoslavia just like on the

rock on the saddam hussein, which led to disastrous consequences. roches too big have a lot of potential in many areas. we were able to piled quickly from the last to the east. in a number of spheres. the government made some management decisions. all these factors allowed us to resist the pressure of sanctions through all the previous year with dignity, while achieving decent results. what was your role in that? could you while and how you contributed i wasn't talking about our role. i was talking about the russian federation as a whole results how the ultimate proof and the results as i said before, i'll by fall last catastrophic than will the west expected. it is entirely possible that when all calculations are made, it will turn out that these sanctions had erupt harder than russia in the medium term. on what terms do you think it would be possible to

normalize relations between russia and the west in the future? and is that even possible, given the current situation as someone who was strained as a historian, i know that crisis and conflicts soon or later come to an aunt and relations are resort to a significant degree. and attacks book on walls. history will tell you that the same will probably happen now is difficult to say was this relations will look like, but we are not going back to the study school. that's for sure. it's not going to be business as usual. it will be something else, but it's true that we were forced to reconsider some of our call attitude to the west significantly. what little trust there was is now certainly gone, but what else will change? what else can you say about the new nature of these future relation?

you know, i could probably answer your question if i had a crystal ball, but i'm afraid no one, no politician, could give you an accurate full cost. it will depend on the myriad of factors, new governments with new approaches will come to power in the west. consequently, we may have a less negative view of them. shared economic interests will come into play. but right now, all this is like trying to re tea leaves. nobody can tell you how the situation will unfold. another topic i'd like to discuss with you going back to nuclear security is their round deal, the joint comprehensive plan of action. what's the statues of the plan these days? simpler put, it looks like at that ends of the same time in the last few days, there's been signals showing that it might be possible to finalize the deal. there have been some leaks indicating that the americans resolved to run the cotton with

some proposals related to the nuclear deal, although probably incorrectly escort us foreign minister said into wrong. there are signals a synch indicate that the americans are hoping for, a direct line of communication with iran, and there have been no direct contacts between them off till now. so those something going on. but we've yet to see these develop mislead anywhere. all i can say is that there's no reasonable alternative to the joint comprehensive plan of action. all, all the options are worse, and the only difference between them is how negative they are. that's why we're in favor of completing the vienna talks, which on the whole though very successful and which essentially allowed us to come up with an agreement that only perhaps if you lines left to sort out and the deal will be ready. so that it could translate into a decision to go back to the situation. before trump's maximum pressure campaign, iran's nuclear program will develop backwards. what i mean is that from the current extremely advanced stage, it will go back to the parameters, negotiate in 2015. at the same time,

the u. s. will lifted sanctions from iran. this is the best way forward. lately us secretary of state antony blinking towards the middle east. a secretary of the treasury, janet yell and to africa were seen many high level meetings with top us officials in africa and in the least with egyptian foreign minister and so on. what do you think about the timing of that? is it an attempt to touch base and double check that all these countries are still friends of the last i guess so, but this isn't a new development. us officials have all this toward different regions. do you think it's connected to the military operation or are the tensions growing

behind the scenes? so every one has embarked on the spec toys to check on the relation certainly whole power involved in the current challenge dissertation include in washington and moscow. want to know the current state of global affairs. actually the state clearly manifests in the international organizations that include those powers. for now, i don't see anything extraordinary in what you've mentioned. this is normal operation. all foreign minister has also has the several african nations recently. africa is all major partner, and we need to maintain all ties with the continent. we're also working on that here in vienna. we partner closely with the african union and it's major members like egypt and south africa. we have good coordination and cooperation. is it about 4 african? it's resources

a race to get there 1st and make agreements to extract its reserves. do you feel it in your work or is the business as usual? and the military operation hasn't changed anything? we don't feel it in vienna. if we're talking about the media, i would agree with you where else also been to africa recently, which shows the use ready to compete for african markets as well as the us and china. china has been there for quite a while and it's enjoyed a lot of success. again, i don't see anything exceptional. the background has changed and it's definitely impacts the actions of all players. but there will no radical shifts. long term asia, africa, and latin america will be the priorities of the russian foreign agenda and the url, the u, the u. s. and canada will gradually dwindle. you also mentioned a degradation of the wes. what did you mean by that?

i meant a declaration not of the west itself, but its foreign policy. the quality has dropped dramatically is become extremely ideology driven lucifer. there has become one of its a geologist key features in the and what we have to deal with is unbelievable. it don't know whether to laugh or cry. a few days ago, finland foreign minister at high rank, an official expressed an opinion that ross was behind the burnings of currants in sweden and denmark said miss like that, delivered by a minister or anything bought smart. i'd call it something completely different. and here's an example from vienna's international institutions. it's not a secret that is approaching nuclear power plants or shell by ukrainian and not russian forces still over the last year, canada thus together with poland. and when it allowed, the board of governors with finland has 3 times adopted resolutions urging russia to and some kind of actions against nuclear facilities in ukraine. and we know that

it was ukraine, that shall, does approach nuclear power plants. it's a well known fact, even though ukraine maintains it was russia that fired at its own forces. during the board's meetings, i tried to get an explanation from our former partners about what exactly did they mean by urging us to an actions against the pol applause more than once. and they couldn't give a solid answer despite unanimously warring for those resolutions. it could have happened in the times of the cold war. the interactions were limited, but professional. there probably was some fluctuations. but what we face to thee is sometimes beyond the reach of reason. you can't make it up so how do you maintain a dialogue? if they don't listen to us, it's like we're speaking different languages quite so we all even in parallel realities. the fact that we don't have much contacts help so little i, yes, we mostly keep to ourselves,

but when we need to talk me and all vest and partners now it's in each other down. but it happens much less frequently than 12 or 18 months ago. thank you very much, mr. yaneth. thank you for your time. a ah ah, the claims of the king of the belgians leopold the 2nd to the congo were finally authorized by the leading european countries in 18. 85. in the very heart of the african continent. a state under the rule of the belgian monarch was declared since

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but also of those who were kept alive. the atrocious exploitation of the congo turned into a real genocide in only 20 years. the policy of the belgians led to the death of nearly 10000000 people alongside the holocaust, that genocide of the congo population is considered to be one of the grimmest pages in the history of mankind. ah, none of what is me spoken by the united states all by you when he is actually pu, they're fighting a war essentially to the window, the better done, the surgeon. so rushing forward once again in, in this region and saw that it was one of the, the limit i've, what is it, is it possible ah,

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