this reporting, i know you're aware of it here has been a lot of commentary on all sides involved with the exception of ukraine, which we'll talk about have denied this, which give some credence to me that some someone in the, by the ministration is i'm, i'm applying some kind of trial balloon, not the chinese weather balloon, but a trial balloon. your thoughts is it doesn't mean anything. well, unfortunately, i don't think it does. i then to think that the biden administration is just set on the par and, and there's nothing that's really stopping it because the american foreign policy stablish man is step on the spot. so if we look at the latest issue of foreign affairs magazine published by the council of foreign relations, a, the big in house, mag of the foreign bond establishment. there's an article by michael book full, the former us ambassador,

russia calling for total victory of russia. there's an article by gallery caspar was, is that a victory to the day on conditional surrender boots in an article by alexander denman saying the same thing. so they all bang using drug and we have bars johnson in washington this week. again, let's say we need to go victory. what about the process of nuclear war? 2 against bluffing, and then you know, and that's and they are, they will just repeating is so unfortunate. they, for the you like a stage. this long as, as seen at the moment is a godson basically europe as being eliminated as any kind of a force in the world. nato is consolidated on the american leadership. the military industrial complex is coming very nicely because essentially european defense in the civil now just vanish. it will be replaced by american equipment and russia they, they continually debilitating russia. and so i wish that there was some serious

negotiations towards peace. unfortunately, i don't say the ma, your thoughts here because everything that george said can be perfectly valid. but at the same time, there could be some kind of sniffing around and seeing what the attitudes are. you know, how far the russians are going to go, or the even open to any kind of negotiations. and again, i want to stress, you know, your brain as a player and all this was not mentioned. ok, so nothing about your grade without ukraine doesn't seem to be in play. but everything that george said could be possibly very valid, which i tend to agree with them. i just wonder why the story was flooded. it came from swift media, go ahead. it came from lloyd newspaper, in the midst of what you base in switzerland, switzerland as a neutral country can. it's why you show them the one on the great, you know, isn't it against. and they just, and most of the lawyer wants of the specialist in that one said, know if we're

a new country, we supply weapons ukraine, then according to the all principal or you're also supplying pressure. so basically, the question is, you will have such an open head what russia, except, i mean, just the last 3 weeks, 2 weeks we saw an avalanche or confessions. marco said, that means to be mintz over just to give you some all on sale. basically the thing no worries, joseph said it was the, i call it a diplomatic invitation. so i mean that if you know whom you want, shame on me. sorry, shame when you for me, why, when me is russia except some kind of a compromise that comes from somebody like burns. so, you know, the other people basically were pretty much just granted that, you know,

i mean they like so. so this is the big question. however, i think everyone understands and everyone expects that the, the stable tragedy and with some current agreement, the problem is that the west is not paid. it was actually be, i mean look, this huge my boys, asian pants, or what were you were up? you know, they want to get reasonable, which tradition has been brand, russia, they want to get them all the countries and bolt. and they all understand is danger . you know, i basically we see the same kind of you know, the united states and make some crandall or very well was there such a why doc in 2000, 132014 for example russia the 1st price when the european politicians are open, the open the cheerleading problem, i thought it was the case and look at their speech. even just russia. you're also

the, anyone that except a liberal form, a member job party, monday. when you came in the last 2 days, you know, so you basically did not have any so rush wages made it, and then you know, the grade me in, stuart stuck. so it is the same, but on the west volks, you know, russia tries not just then russia reacts them before they move to another stage or another level. and the west is starting. there is more than one provoked escalation. russia, you have been, can russia before crimea for many years and dispatching the last 5 months or no. what's happened? you know, before the decision on every 22nd, 2000 and sorting everything to 4022. remember, there were 5 months only when she should and there were last all presentations from

your grade. so all of us are the same. yeah, george is saying the that the, the this reporting from source media to when you percent, which is kind of curious because they're saying it's almost as if the west is believing its own propaganda. because if you think about what birds apparently allegedly was offering is 20 percent of the size of the dumbass, crimea wasn't mentioned at all as far as i understand. but ukraine kid did not have control over that 20 percent of the day before the conflict started. so, i mean, people like burns think that the russians are willing to accept chump change after all this, then you really battling, if you can explain it, if they actually believe their own propaganda loma around, no ammunition running out of missiles, you know, all this stuff which is never been proven, there's no empirical evidence to back up your thoughts?

no, i, i think so and, but i also skeptical, i think that if there were a serious often made to russia, i don't think the americans would use william burns. you know, you do it, i mean, i think that, you know, why the director of a c. i mean, i know you've been an ambassador before the so director of the c, i is also a person to, to send the message. i mean, if one thinks about how this might conclude, it could actually be concluded, you know, they keep saying, well, at the end of the process they'll be some negotiation. but maybe that they'll be longer go show at the end of the process, then just simply be, you know, thus far, no farther. and essentially, as you know, some sort of a, an armistice on russia takes whatever it takes. and there is a remnant of ukraine, that remains, but it'll be totally on the american tutelage, it probably will be inducted into nato. and then you have essentially frozen

counseling, which can last, if you think about as a career, a pros and cons that gets lost in 70 years. i mean, because sometimes they don't last, but it may be because it's hard to see at the moment how they can be any kind of negotiation the most wanted are very well. you know, the russians have been fooled and betrayed time and time again going all the way back to go. a bunch of and james baker is not wanting to lease. i mean, this is the one with russia. sit down and believe any promises at all made by the united states and in particular jayma. i mean there's something that george and i, on the gaggle of talked about animals on a daily basis, is that even the very idea of an arm, a sister ceasefire? well, that will just, you know, it does take a time out to load up your brain with more and more weapons within nato being

involved in it. that doesn't resolve and see the problem with the west in the way they, they try to understand or misunderstand rushes position is that it wants security guarantees in the european land mass. ok, that's never addressed by the west. ok. and, and that's what russia, but this is the origins of it. you can talk about unprovoked all you want to cares, but we have demands and you don't even gain to recognize that we have these demand schema. oh yeah, absolutely. right. and also remember the west, most of the west had all the opportunity just to make the rose and all play for 8 years. i mean, point that there was an example of my daughter there was a day will be delta dental, just anxious to the rational troops who basically separate nice troops. and then for me, for 30 years, there was not a single person killed. you know,

there is a sudden then sometimes you know, there are people on the 2 sides of the story where they say radio rose. the problem with the dog was that it has never been bolted since the 1014. and it was always an open. well, i mean, the western media did not report it. at least in detail. don't have to be all, almost every week, sometimes more often seen in black and blockaded. no medicines, no pensions paid nothing. i mean, this is never reported in western media. they don't remind people that the means to be careful or rational does the means. i mean, read them in just re of the pages of the goals that they kept, the best been rush with. you know that you're bringing over the last the last point,

you know, on the be in the pages. and there were there once about m. c. for people who participated in 2014, not fulfilled by your grade. there was that was about special status. well that, there it is for people to be crushed. marriage, no reaction from grace, you know, walk a, trying to believe that. nothing. let me go to george before we go to the break here, a georgia and i am scarf that you know that the very thought it's returned to the main surprises as essentially what this report is saying. go ahead. 30. yeah, that's, that's exactly right. it's like the western pals is a yeah, yeah, this means agreement that we never took seriously. never did anything to implement . yeah. that will be, that will be a good framework for an agreement that russians are going to take as an agreement, something that you are not the slightest intention of implementing last time. yeah . and, and obviously the level of trust is that 0 or i gentlemen,

i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion. we'll need to stay with our k o. oh, when this conflict ends and it will end, it must at there will be again, commercial relationships. they'll be social relationships. they'll be family relationships. it's going to take some time. but it's natural and there isn't going to be a great wall built between ukraine and the russian federation. ah ah, needs to come to the russian state. little narrative. i've studied those. unfortunately. no san steve asked me, i'm not getting all sun set up for

a week within 55 when. okay, so mine is 2000 speedy. when else calls with we will van in the european union, the kremlin. yup. machines, the state on russia for date and split marquee spoke neck, given our video agency, roughly all band to on you to finish said, we put what did you think even close with me? oh, well, the back to crossed out were all things are considered. i'm peter bell. this is the home addition to remind you were discussing some real news ah,

with friends go back to the me here in moscow deem of the again one of the subjects in the, in that is not really touched upon because they're all kind of focused on rushes losing ukraine is winning zalinski is a new churchill and all of this, which is this lot of nonsense. it's a lot of white air because it doesn't really tell us anything about what's most important. and what is most important is when this military conflict comes to an end, which it will come to an end. i personally think russia will unilaterally determine that, but that's something down the road. but what about the, the post conflict environment here? because we have it, we were told that europe in nato are very much united, but they're very much not ok. we have the french and the germans talking about security guarantees. the eastern european saying rush is a war criminal. there's no need to talk to them. i mean, because and all, while ukraine is really kind of low on the totem pole,

the board is here. ok. it's really about the relationship that rush will have in european security structures, if it all. and if it does not, that will make sure that will determine that europe is a very unstable place for a long time. because you'll definitely have elements in ukraine, whatever size or shape and form it is, will be looking for revenge and a undoing of the settlement. that russia, in my opinion, will unilaterally impose this is one of the things that needs to be talked about, the more. well this year russia does not remain, is the european diction. if you walk in general, i mean the last week we have 2 or 4 or 4 articles. one was in europe on a particular, you know, the full or foreign minister on who is now a member of parliament. but she basically wrote ok, sorry, scholarship is for sure, which is russia, they're all the same. this is the same problem. we just banned on the expansion

isn't which needs needs to be basically destroyed, not physically as an entity. she writes, there should be no such thing as russian one, the other, well mark, your oil, oil that, you know focus is so, i mean, how can russia remain in the framework over, you know, european jurisdiction this graduated? and the problem is that it was one of those damn russians doing with our oil. that's good to me. exactly. exactly, and this is no, this is no exception. this is the main stream on it least in the northeast of europe. and, and know we're told that the center piece, you know, the central european union is moving to the north. now it's on the boat east, eastern europe was playing a. that's ideologically. ok. in no other sense. ok.

or it's just the relative weakness of the most western part of the continent, which is really kind of pathetic, but probably expected george, you know, if russia and expansion is rush, i mean, in, in the last 30 years, it's only nato that has been expanding, not russia well, there's a defensive alliance. i mean everything. i was defensive. no, that's right. there was a problem with the i say is that it has very weak leadership at the moment. what you would need somebody in the west who could just take the situation by the scruff of the neck, so to speak, and just bring it on. and you know, you need somebody was just going to say this policy is not. we have to bring this to an end. it makes no sense. it's not advancing. our interest is just leading to disaster. but there's no one around, you know, we have, you know, sergeant schultz and the german johnson who's constantly just the say no,

i don't want to do that and then you know, 10 minutes late to get your mind. so now we're not, we're not sending any fight the jets. we are drawing the line, you know, like the jack. so that, you know, yeah, like the just going to be going all the way macros as well. we must impose a piece on, on russia that's humiliated, but in the meantime, i'm going to go on sending them whatever. so, and apparently apparently george, one of the reasons why and the crowns are still in contact with me because he's doing a personal papers last week. we will not talk to them, but then he kind of, you know, meekly called macro that. can you give me a call for me? i mean, this is how big the lack of leaders and this is the kind of leadership we have in europe. ok. we have a panhandle calling the shots, telling the president of france to call the russian as it is. it's extraordinary. right? but that's the thing that's they've because you've got these very weak leaders. there is this great danger that we could drift to

a real actual war between nato, when i was the united states and russia, if you had a strongly, strongly to what have just simply brought this to an end. but because of the back of leadership is just those are the graduate drift to the point where i think it's very fast to see how it can be avoided because there's nobody in the west and trunk, you know, best, who won't be in power for another couple of years, but that's of best and there's, nobody was just saying this has the stuff, you know, we have to just work out some sort of agreement and big, which is an hour. there's no and i change something akin to eisenhower telling the british and french to knock it off and see what not. yeah, that's it. but if you get the money, you know, you know, ever since the conflicts started back in february of last year. so it's almost a year now i've it, i've done almost every single program on the topic,

and it's been talking about russia. but can you tell our audience, what is the thought? i mean, i don't know what the average russians actually articulated. most people don't think about politics, we're kind of fanatics. we think about it all the time, but no rush is 300 year. dance you will with the west is coming to an end and this time is quite definitive, i think. okay. because at the end of the 2nd world war, the famous phrase, the iron curtain is going up all across europe. but it's the, it's the west, it's created the iron curtain. now, how does that, how does that do you think impact how russians think about the future of their country? well, what do you really cold? well, the best it was, this is human nature. and in fact, the situation present deteriorate almost almost everything. so people are not to be they think that this is just their temporary problem. you

know that there is just another breezy i know. and g as in golf, lex and the, here i was george. he will call if he comes to the ball, will you be able to change the by and i mean, we saw how he was incapacity. he was the former, the, the president of the united states when she was not all the american out of syria. you know, because the defense just, you know, change the immigration rules because they found some walk, you know, district court, which incapacitated. so unfortunately, it's something more serious to change just the guy from the white house we see in the palace. basically the besides of all across, you know, he did the san lanes he just said the night, the state waynes. and if you know, we have these dogs with russia,

we job brain and which will, did google some good reviews for security. he was immediate in go to guarantee for this war there. and most of the european stepped. yes. yeah. but you're the in the change. but but we're, we're in a very, very sad place. george, this is also kind of like thinking about the aftermath of $945.00 to outside power is russia in the united states determining the fate of europe. but the europeans, a lot of this time. ok, was it because they didn't have the capacity it's, you know, they have the e as a larger population, a larger g, d p, the united states, but it is acting in such a placid manner. ok, i mean, and i think 45 years was bank which it was destroyed. but this is just a lack of leadership and foresight in a god. awful ideology. george. yes, that's right. i mean the, the europeans have been talking since the 1980s about how they're going to develop

a european security and defense identity. and that would be. and then in the ninety's, i talked to start talking about the european of foreign policy. and then when those the yugoslav crisis, i was the hour of your european leaders proclaimed, but it never happened. time went on and your of is become even more subordinate to the united states. then it was during the call you, during the cold war, you had a real european leaders to start off to washington like the goal of really bronze that hell, which meant there's nothing that, i mean, it's total subordination. when that doesn't seem to be any real need for it, i mean there's no security threat of the might have been during the cold war. it's they, they find this very convenient arrangement. and so now here they know european people know european politicians know that this is an absolute disaster, but your it will only home europe that the longer this goes on. but they are

incapable of taking any sort of the lead and standing of them and say in october you know, to the united states that this is something that, you know, pro, there was never any need for this. with so many opportunities down the road to have brought this to a conclusion, but there's no one. and that doesn't seem to anybody as to who, who said, well it's, it's very interesting demon because there are members of nato, particularly on what they call the eastern flying. so they're more distrustful of berlin and parents and they are washington, i mean, you know, i think this is a catastrophe that should have been avoided, could have easily been avoided. we've been saying this on this program for a year now, but i have to agree with george many times now is that the americans are pretty much getting everything they want. i mean, this is a booth for them. well, i think it's a

losing, you know, losing a lot, but, you know, talking about them. i mean, what kind of european, well, half east cancer shoulds when he was asked, i'm going to stand. thank you. so if the united states and then i will also say it's like a, you know, what would you kill people? well, personally being, i think, you know, but, you know, not to states to people. i will also. so this is the kind of european barrett you know, they look up to their next stage, even though they just doing something, they're going to pull the seat. you know, nowadays with rush the war we will be with the day of the world. i don't know what you know, they may even, it's difficult understandable there of course, because the only for the people who are politically incorrect, you know, it will be for some kind over a or

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