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nato naval drills in the baltic sea to cover that tracks all of this month after the terrorist attack and sabotage of the north stream type theory. an arab red crescent says sanctions imposed on syria a preventing vital age deliveries and coming to the country. often devastating earthquakes leave at least 1600 people dead in syria. also in the program, the u. s. house financial services committee says washington is devoted to pre market at the same time branding china risk to america's economic leadership with . and so what's foster into a busy and enlightening day here at auto international. it's great to have your company. we do start this out with breaking years as an american award winning journalist out of seymour hersh has revealed

a u. s. norwegian operation to attack russian gas pipelines while planning the attack. as we understand, for 9 months since 2021 by this decision to sabotage the pipelines came after more than 9 months of highly secret back and forth debate inside washington's national security community. about how to best achieve that goal. for much of that time, the issue wasn't whether to do the mission, but how to get it done with no overt clue as to who was responsible. so i was done more now with a spray. can you story or not international were in a cause or ever joining me here in the studio or this? i mean, this is big marino. just if you would just bring us the details of what you know so far. it seems i'm ceylon covering the details and trying to track as well, with some of the things that were reported on earlier regarding how they used it. so ah, let's start. how did the usa do it? according to seymour hersh again,

so they used the u. s. as navies diving and salvage center, so they use a highly skilled, ah, deep water divers who are then assigned on to military assignments. and the reason they did that was because if they use the navy according to seymour hersh than they don't wanna have to report it to congress, they don't have to inform other officials. so they can keep this in a really hush hush operation. so then comes the question, how to do it. there were apparently lots of meetings back and forth and done. what happened was, why did they do it? first of all, so they're really what they wanted to do is make sure that there is no, there wanted to get hold on to their western dominance that them want russia deliver. and she gas to germany, they didn't want germany to feel like it. it depends on russia and with nordstrom to germany would receive even more gas and there would be cheaper gas. so they wanted that eliminated so that there were discussing how to do that. and joe biden, according to seymour hersh, i actually authorized jake sullivan,

the national secretary, advisor of the united states to create an inch for agency, a group that would find a way how to eliminate those pipelines. so that group would meet up and there are details there, of course, small hearse. he says that he spoke to as source with direct knowledge of the operational planning. so i assumed this is someone who was in those meetings and some of the details we have are incredible, like for example, where there were meeting where these are top secret places meetings will take place . so all these extra extra information does make us think that this is legitimate, aside from the fact that who seem or her says which will get in in a minute. but again, how did they do it? they used a high skill divers are from this sensor that didn't have to report it to congress . ah, they agreed that they would blow them up, but how to do it. and it's interesting because you read about some of the options that they had. and so, for example, the air force disgusted,

dropping bombs with delayed fuses that could be set off remotely. apparently the c, i a argue that whatever was done, it had to be covert. so be careful. because everyone understood that if this comes out, this means war. interesting, what will happen after this is so kind of scary, but moving all out, regardless of that, there were even doubts. some people within the cia said guys were worried, according to seymour hersh. if this gets out that we will be in trouble here. but nonetheless, it continued, and then we have in early 2020 to the c i, a working group reported back to sullivan's interagency group and they said, we have a way to blow up. ah, blow up the pipelines ah, let's have our lesson. so when it comes to, when they decided to do it, what they took advantage of and how nato is involved, the norwegians had a solution to the crucial question of when the operation should take place. every

june, for the past 21 years, the american 6 fleet whose flagship is based in gaiety, italy, south of rome, has sponsored a major nato exercise in the baltic sea in rome, scores of allied sheeps throughout the region. the current exercise held in june would be known as baltic operations, $22.00. then there we just proposed these would be the ideal cover to plant the mines. and then of course, we also know that look for a new lens and we even had jo blythe and discussing about getting rid of the north stream one n. nordstrom to pipelines. and we seen saw some of those messages, but apparently within that group they said, hold on a 2nd. what are you doing? why are you making this public where discussion is behind the scenes and after your statements. then it will be harder for us than to say, well, it was in us when we were out there. you said you're talking about when victoria newland basically said in one way or another,

these pipelines will be stopped in an unblinking called a tremendous opportunity. biden has also, he had similar things to say that they were grateful in the wake of the sabotage of the north stream pipeline. yes. of all that there were, but the thing is that there were involved in the planning of it, which is why the group said after was when they saw victoria newland the discuss. let's adolescence what look for a newland actually said. i am and i think administration is very gratified to know that nord stream too, is now as you like to say, a hunk of metal at the bottom of the c. so i asked that they heard that and said, what are you doing afterwards? i obviously, after would blow it up, it will be a little bit harder for us to then say, well, it wasn't not when you're out there discussing the spots. but the inter agency group took this and actually said, well, joe biden. busy says, well, if russia invades well, then we'll find a way to get rid of annoyed string. after that's was publicized. apparently they

said, well, does that mean the entry and the group said, does that mean that we'll get the go ahead and the cia director at the time a who is, was a former ambassador to russia by the way? bill burns, according to seymour hersh, he's the one that said yes, let's do it. marina, let's, let's just for a moment here, but this is all big stuff and it's one revelation or for another. but who is this seymour hersh? the man who is come out with all of this now, seymour hersh is a former new york times writer. he's a pulitzer prize winning journalist. he's a legendary journalist, really, who's always had contempt for the american media in general. when that, when the official u. s. government narrative came out about the death of osama bin laden, seymour hersh called b. s. he said that's one big lie. regarding osama bin loudon on the 2003 american invasion of iraq. seymour hersh called b. s on the whole w. m. d. sadam. hussein thread, the bush junior, kept flagging on and on and on again. so this guy, seymour hersh,

he typically goes against the mainstream narratives. but in this situation, considering all the geo politics and the world, the moving and shaking marina, do we think seymour hersh can be trusted? his track record definitely indicates that he is someone that should be trusted, especially from what was seen from his work before. but here again, these are not his words. once again, he says that he's quoting as source that was familiar and with then the o peroration, all organization of this and the amount of details you provide. and again. a when they met how they met the options they discussed, who was saying was and how it's becoming harder to say that this does sound legitimate and the aftermath, the consequences that will come from that. like i said before, the, the i said it reportedly itself, guys, if this comes out we'll be in a lot of trouble. but that didn't stop them from going ahead and fulfilling their

plan. well, i guess we'll, you know, we'll see if this, this revelation. but by seymour hersh, we'll see if it gets any attention in the west and press marine cause a river. thank here. and while the u. s. has adamantly denied the allegations, as naval forces were involved in attacking the north stream. pipeline and investigation will be incident conducted by some european states does, can chin you. let's take this further. now. crossing life to archie, contributor rachel marston. so what are these states that are actually doing their investigation and russia was blocked from this rachel, ever since the pipelines were bombed, can we expect an unbiased pro do thing? well, a couple of things are really striking with respect to this report by seymour hersh, who, by the way, has one pretty much every western journalism award known to man was going to be

really interesting to see how the, at least the american media manages to ignore all this and it turns out that all of this planning occurred prior to the conflict in ukraine going red hot. and the report dates back to see more hers is report dates back even to the 6th or 7th of february when german chancellor, all of schultz was in washington. and it sounds like he was on board with all of this plodding. and even though it said in her says report that it 1st it was a little complicated. so that's interesting, given germany's role with respect to nord stream one and 2 and particularly the impact it's had on all of this is how to germany in its energy security. i'm also remember that just a few days ago, norway said that you sanctions prevented from helping with the investigation into the north stream explosions. last october, sweden, denmark and norway obstructed examination of the damage to the pipelines. and now

this further confirmation that russia wasn't really involved in boeing up its own infrastructure, just as the ceo of nord stream previously said. he also hinted at who the perpetrator might be, and he made it clear that it's not russia, have a listen warning, says he doesn't believe that russia is responsible for the attack. the russians know who else and nato country warning note silently. england is all speculation, but think about it. okay, so this report that we're now getting from seymour hearse basically backs up what that c e o was saying. and now there were also alleges that norway was washington's partner and blowing up nord stream. wanted to norway in secret services selected the placement allegedly of these explosives, norway hated russia according to hershey report and wanted to sell its own gas to

europe, which is essentially what's happening now. and russian gas was preventing that. so it, there were hearing about a motive. now the u. s. had expanded its military presence in norway over the past while, and it even had a listing radar into russia in norway voted last november to give the us legal system jurisdiction in some parts of norway over american soldiers based there when they were on base. norway also allegedly ran interference for washington with neighboring sweden and denmark over this whole plan to blow up the nord stream pipelines. so that sweden, denmark didn't get too suspicious when they saw navy divers, or if they saw a navy divers in the area. but according to hers, these countries were not told by norway, exactly what those divers would be doing there. they were just told that, hey, you might see divers around, so don't panic if you do. they're not up to

a thing suspicious. so now it remains to be seen how the e u will respond to its best friend and ally, washington allegedly colluding with one of its own members. states to blow up a critical infrastructure and national security and economic lifeline and data. the other day blower blurring up the true energy backbone of european industry ought to contribute to rachel mawson. thank you. that's more now of course unlocked irena ross 1st the vice president of the alternative germany party in bavaria. a very warm welcome to you. so straight off the top of your head, what do you think? are you surprised by these revelations here? no, i'm not at all surprised. i mean, i'm, if you put a political analyst and i saw the situation just as, as it has been confirmed all by say more hers. i was not sure which of the western allies of germany were behind it. but it doesn't surprise me at all. i mean,

the situation according to the interests involved in the north stream pipeline was clear beforehand and the little engagement of germany in really analyzing the yeah, the background of the blowing up of not been to showed us that the germany itself felt obliged to what you were the background of our nation and ultimately for germany had asked in the german parliament for further information and they have been told it's to secret that even the parliamentarian can be informed about it. so this shows that it's something that needed to be disguised. it was just unclear what were that is the exact details behind it. but the idea was, the idea was, as biden had said many months ago, he said,

if prudent invades ukraine one way or another, no stream, what will cease to exist. but that was actually the planning for the staff. a thought was long before any conflict in ukraine actually started. so my question to you right now is who benefits? so the end of the day from sabotaging the north stream pipeline. i mean, it's clear, i guess, to all of our spectators that there is an overall geopolitical pattern that must be addressed when we talk about the east west conflict in europe. it involves not only the ukraine war which is going on since 2014 in the walls now also the blowing up of north stream to it is the overall setting offer rivalry between the united states and on the other side, russia also china at large the brick countries the cheese 7 against the bricks,

countries, so it's a competition between 2 major powers of our route which try to shape the new world order and the one site, the usa. he wants to keep up hedge money and the new rivals. they want to set up a motive, coal, our work order, and not stream. it was just a good for binding europe above all, the industrial motor and engine of europe, germany further to russia and to deepen those ties meant also the threat that the multi pooler world would emerge involving, also europe involving, also germany. and this has been stopped all the major development in eastern europe of the past one or 2 decatur. it can be explained only considering this pattern. and this means also that also in the ukraine war. also,

when we talk about the delivery of the heavy weapon to the ukranian army by germany, we have to take into consideration that the german government, more or less, have been height checked by those powers who seek to drive germany to the one side to the right who are these? who are those powers? who are those? was you just mentioned that have hijacked germany? yeah, i mean, it's not the american, as we would think. the american people, of course, are not well informed about what is going on there. it's not the trump group of republicans who were following the strategy of focusing their forces stronger on the united states themselves. make america great again and not try to over stretch us power in the world. but

with the return of bite and that your political strategy of trying to dominate the new world order has come back on on the surface has reappeared. and it was clear to me that with the coming back of this group of power in washington, it would mean through the wars to stabilize us. here's your money. and therefore also, if we look at this re revelation of say more hers. we can be pretty sure that it will be covered up in the european media in the american media. that will be a little talk about it, but no real dramatic g will be the develop. there'll be no admission of guilt or right now. i think that's the day there'll be no admission of guilt from american officials on the, on the completed western press will do everything i can to just brush it under the

rug, rain and rough us. i wish we had time to talk about this, but we will see you again soon. geopolitical analyst are joining us here on our team to national. thank you very much. thank you. thank you. ah, well, it is good to have your company today just about 20 minutes past 6 here in the russian capital. so the syrian arab red crescent has demanded sanctions to be lifted off syria. it says the hampering vide holds humanitarian aid, being sent to the country and the aftermath of the devastating earthquakes that have taken at least 1600 lives in syria. i hear as if you cannot make sanctions imposed on our country is the main obstacle to get a needed equipment. with this, we demand for the legion of economic sanctions and the siege in order to allow a deliveries and humanitarian actions to be implemented. i was talking just a bit earlier through about them, a dollar, a political list from syria, who says that the us is playing political games with humanitarian aid to damascus.

there is no u u. n. sanctions against syria. there is u. s. united states and e u sanctions against this is fair. everyone would know that for humanitarian aid, these sanctions should be listed in spite of that united hill lion. yesterday. mister please can of our representative of u. s. department, samantha power, the director of us a say that we will, we will a held that north east of here. you either in that you're trying to divide the city and people to divide your graphically your request has been denied. that's the message from china who rejected to take a call from the us defense minister. immediately after taking action to down the p

. r. c. balloon. the department of defense submitted a request for a secure call between secretary austin and p. r. c, minister of national defense. unfortunately, the p r c has declined our request. our commitment to open lines of communication will continue with their direction, comes off to the chinese balloon, traverse usa a space at the end of january, and was eventually shot down by use for us fighter jet on saturday. that was just off the coast of carolina. i washington claims it was a surveillance device, while beijing says the balloon was used for collecting weather data, and it's simply got blown off course. well, let's learn more getting details. now this from the vice president of the center for china and globalization, vic, the gal. now joining us here, one r t international, a very will welcome to use a how would you comment on that rejection? why do you think china acted in that way? i think the united states should not believe that it is the spoil, the child on the block because shoot down the harmless airship because china

called all balloon as the u. s. is called batch. and then they have the guts to request for a meeting between the sexes else they take out the fires of the united states and also, and the chinese defense minister from a chinese perspective. this shooting doll of an innocent, harmless ship, all the balloon of china by the us military use one of its best. airplanes, for example, is an affront to china is damage to the china us ah, understanding with each other and is all over reaction to watch to a balloon wake up. therefore, i think it's absolutely legitimate for charlotte. the refuse to have any paul call phone call or meeting with the secretary of defense for what the guy, what i do apologize. so, but i wanted to ask you, you know, if

a chinese balloon in american space or even just above it and america shoots it down, wouldn't this then give the right to china to shoot down any number of american assets, the violated space nearly every single day absolutely, i think for the recall the china has been condemn in the united states again and again and again, not just for days or weeks or months or years old. the fragrant violation of channel sovereignty and territorial integrity, while violating the one china policy, etc. so it's charla would do exactly like what the u. s. military did a few days ago by shooting down an innocent, ominous as the u. s. military characterized this issue, ah airship, for example, from the air. then china will be fully justified to shoot and shoot and shoot again

and again and again. but what, what the consequences, china in the united states will be on the wall with each other, who will benefit neither the chinese people nor the american but america keep them cool about in the china and he's local, it keeps talking about that. we just had this, this american military guy, a mini hand is commander just a week or so ago who addressed his troops in america and said, get ready for war with china by 2025. so i le, admittedly, i understand it when i speak the chinese officials, they always say we're not a threat. we're not a threat to america. but american officials are constantly saying china is a threat to america. and i just briefly, mr. gout, just briefly bear with me here that the whole spy balloon going over america. i mean, he was really turned into a hollywood production on the see on the see an in network and fox news. i mean, they turn this into like an nfl football game about who's gonna stripe 1st and who's going to get to the, you know, did it at, at, at, at, at the end of the day,

if china wanted to do a secrets surveillance mission over america, china has the satellites, it's got very powerful satellite. it doesn't need to use a balloon. so why do you think america blue this whole story up into such a hollywood gambit? exactly. this is what i guess the chinese government and the chinese people are the child has the fact that it really loves the right to use the same method. i guess the u. s. target going forward. now, i think why your child has been claiming that this is an innocent civilian boy, age by asha, are getting out of control on the false mature, the united states will use this incident to kill china exercising espionage. however, i think the united states government military completely forgot one fundamental

point from this hello, isn't it? that is china and the united states are living in the same world. and china and this page share the same atmosphere. and the united states is not on another land inch, for example, completely a beyond trying those reach. so if this is a, then, should i taught the americas anything? it is china, the united states are within range of each other. and neither can you still think about using military beings against each other because a wall of the direct confrontation militarily between these 2 countries will cause i'm a gather immediately. this should be reason for the us military to de escalate, rather than escalate and both china, the united states, really need to talk about peace rather than war mongering. as that general you mentioned in the military active service, 5 to declare war on china,

declaring war on china will mean america sell destruction period. check out the vice president of the center for china and globalization. really appreciate your time. thank you very much for joining us. thank you. thank you very much for having me. good to have your company for this program here. what are you into national so an overreaching theme of the house financial services committees, hearing this tuesday, the quote chinese threat. this does american law makers particularly focused on the risks beijing poses to americas global economic leadership. while at the very same time emphasizing the u. s. commitment to the so called free mock. we must double down on our commitment to free people and free markets. the juxtaposition between the u. s and china could not be more clear. they are centralized, we are decentralized, they are close, we are open, they suppress free speech and human dignity. we embrace it. these are the american

values that produce the economic strength that has led to the highest living standard and greatest military power in human history. chinese not an ally or strategic partner. they are a competitor and pose the single greatest threat to american global standing. let's discuss the u. s. perception of china we joined now in the studio with arctic interpret a chris ems. always good to see you. chris. thanks for coming in on such a busy day. lots of breaking news. tell you a lot of that big heavy hitting stories for our audience today here on our tea look . you know, it just doesn't stop really between washington and beijing, washington just keeps on. i would say provoking and antagonizing if you want to go back to nancy pelosi trip to taiwan or anything that's hollywood story with his big balloon going over the country though we were seeing a lot of remarks here. fine back and forth between essentially 2 of the biggest players on the blog. what do we need to know, chris? what's going on the heightened rhetoric? yeah, i think that's exactly what it is really, but i think it's going to pretty a little more of a sinister sort of angle to it. so if we look today at this,

this hearing from the finance committee, so 1st of all they, they, they say they have committed to freeing people in free markets. but if anyone knows anything about history and understand that the chinese companies body has put more people from poverty than any other political force in history. i mean, let's go to the us now. we'll go meet some people on the property line and ask them what they think about that. i think they'll have a very different opinion, but probably my sinister thing is what they did is they got every single member of this committee to put that hand up and say, do you agree that we should raise the debt ceiling? now that's the biggest problem that biding currently has, right, is he needs to raise the debt ceiling because he's in so much that will the u. s. is he needs to raise that in order to keep or more money so that you can pick the u . s. out of this massive whole it said now this pretext of this, this what looks to me like, like a balloon. you'd have a birthday party, doesn't pick the front thing to be, didn't like it with armed with anything. this balloon is created this pre.