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is visiting the african state and said efforts will be made to diversify trade and ties between the 2 countries. it is a, one of those numerous stops across the african continent in the past 2 weeks with all the details. now here's our teaser. we had a golf on the thursday, just the russians took it to the middle east, african american for the, for the 1st visit by the head of russian diploma. victor martinez, establishment of diplomatic relations with 90 to gillibrand, met. he will return your call to them, as well as the head of state of the stomach republic mohammed with that she has a hearing. today's talks with my friend ministers, her lover of us, we discussed in detail all the aspects of our own lateral relations. we touched upon certain issues in the bilateral relations that we have some avenues where we can be more active for mutual interests. we also discussed some aspects of
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the international agenda. we placed a special emphasis on those aspects that are of prayer in transform, murray, tanya, at the heart of the talks, not only bilateral relations and the strengthening of political dialogue, but also key issues on the regional agenda such as the situation, africa and the questions related to these issues such as the settlement of the conflict between syria and other subjects. business and you do bring our relations to a new level. we pay special attention to the trade and economy. the flagship project of our partnership is maritime facing russian fishing vassals annually they come to the marie tanius exclusive economic zone and we are grateful for giving them they is privileged conditions in accordance with the premium that we have. and we have agreed on additional matters to make this work as efficient as possible,
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as comfortable as possible. apart from fishing, we don't have a lot to brag about. so we are going to focus our efforts on diversification of our trade and economic ties on looking for new avenues of corporation. after his watching visit to mercedes, again, the rough settles to sit on to meet his counterpart ali acidic. like it's a quick reminder for aubrey can use this. our hero, naughty, legendary journalist seymour hersh says the us and norway were behind the terrorist bombing of rushers north stream pipelines in september of last year. as my colleague union o'neill will be here at the desk shortly. you can expect more analysis and debate throughout the evening. live from the city that never sleeps. mm
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go to the authorities, results in last friendships and in some cases, threats to their jobs. but in some extreme cases, whistleblower pays with his or her life. that's right. sometimes the person engaged in corruption will stop at nothing to silence the truth teller, including resorting to murder. i'm john harry. aku. and you're watching the whistle blowers. 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 today we're discussing the case of bet, be dead dale koran in south africa, but beat a dare koran was an official in johannesburg. then visa hospital, she stumbled across what appeared to be 850000000 rand, worth of suspicious payments. that's about $47000000.00 and she went to authorities as a result in august 2021. she was targeted by a hit team of 6 men and ambushed in front of her home. she had told her superior
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and the police that she feared for safety, and she asked for police protection. but it wasn't forthcoming. the 6 killers have been arrested and had been charged with murder, attempted murder, and illegal possession of firearms and ammunition. the alleged mastermind of the plot has not yet been arrested. the 6 killers should already have gone to trial, but that trial has been delayed several times for legal technicalities. we're joined by renowned greek south african whistleblower ari. denique us are, is an official with blue print for free speech, the australia based and geo that recently honored the memory of beat dale koran and which posthumously awarded her it's international whistle blowing. special recognition award ari. welcome back to the show ari the story of but beat up they'll cut on is one that did not get wide coverage in the western media. in fact, it didn't get any coverage in the west at all yet it's a critically important case. tell us 1st how this whole thing began. who was but
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beat a dale cut on what exactly did she reveal? john, but we did. the koran was a government official. so wasn't fox, they'd director for finances are full the department of health in south africa. and it was, it was doing a routine, you know, chick on, you know, figures and accounts and she came across sir said than dodgy. don't see transactions in particular was seen a hospital and she flogged nearly 850 millions in very dubious payments on a weekly pay run analysis. and am, there were a few of us came up so that it was suspicious that she actually start
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investigating further and see stop the payment on over a $100.00 and full 1000000 ah, rent on, on her payments. i'm when she discovered those are, you know, incidence. she actually did what any whistle blow does you know that didn't internal arm disclosure and to see when to his ceo and report. and she findings now ah, hopping around there, august 2021 on the 17th offer. oh gost. she actually sent an email to her ceo with all the information, you know the details and she thought that there were not 2 hadn't sitting on millions worth of expenses on a hospital, which was one of the smallest in the area. ah,
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she discovered that that particular hospital had erase arise on kit, on expenses. 25 percent more than son. lot sir. mexican, i got the mic hospital which is 4 times the size of his most people. so there was a lot of board. it's you know, everything to the department, c. c, a fall and coal for an immediate investigation. and as i said, has stopped payment worth of hadn't for 1000000. now the seo oxley started to proceed with the payments and bobby dodson, except that she wrote on the 17th of august and me mill at $1042.00. actually, we actually have e mail and a week later on the 23rd, she was gant down at the house entry sr. check our after c hot joked she had daughter to the school. my glasses, a story of bob beat, a decorum. what was the immediate reaction to her revelations,
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why was it that the authorities didn't seem to take her seriously? why didn't they launch an immediate investigation? shook. ah, i believe that day a special investigating unit was allocated to was thus to investigate that ah, story! siegel was actually a witness full, then a national prosecution afforded to south africa. she was going to testify. so says fear for your life and her after spoken to your family. i was told that she had actually since various e mails, you know, saying look, i'm bit concerned and under protection than ever happened. so i'm very concerned about the feller of a system in south africa, of protection weaknesses,
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and whistleblowers at the time was if you remember there was this on the commission, you know, inquiring. blaze thought it was investigating the am state capture in south africa. so that was was off talk about the whistleblowers unfortunately, but better the system didn't work for better. no, no, it seems that it didn't. once that investigation began, she did tell the police that she feared for her safety and she asked for protection . that protection never came. was she being threatened or was she just worried? and can you explain to us the connection between this, this taxi industry person that has appeared in the press and the hospital where been beat. busy reported on on corruption. this seems to be something of a, of a conspiracy. i dont sink said is
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a taxi person falls on may be that particular person house move on. then a tiny business, but there are ah speculations that that is a prominent a and c o. petition who is actually i, you know, she's a treasure dresser, a general of the aim cease, it can q lenny of region. and he also companies garzon projects, knuckle hot hall medical supplies. and while i'm not a security i'm, she got a 2800000, con trucking, 2919 than 4200000 in 2020. and in 2010, you one, it should up to 7.5, millions. so now if you look at the portfolio of this particular application, you know, you'll make up your mind, but it's shocking. and it will states that the, this, this person's company sold such a variety of goods to the hospital,
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including clean material of supplies and even groceries oval. they're, one of the companies was listed thus an event here. so here you have an event firm selling medical material to equipment due to a hospital. it's crazy. and what but beka and discovered it was given a, an idea for plastic waste a rubbish beads was sold for 15000 runt. i mean, dollars us valuable water to cease thousands, 0 follows. it's ridiculous. we've seen in the south african press r e that the trial of the 6 alleged killers has been repeatedly delayed. the most recent excuse coming from the south african police is that they haven't received all of the forensic test results back yet, but this murder happened more than a year ago. why are there these repeated delays?
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that 2 possibilities here. one is okay. iraq. now, the judiciary and softer guides kowalcik, it's pre election, you know, times ah, the current government is extremely corrupted. so you know that the 3 don't want the laundry, the dirty laundry to come out. so they delaying justice. okay . and the 2nd issue is that, ah, the feresi department of africa at the moment, it's under working there and employed to so there are many, actually the thousands of criminal case spending due to forensic records. ah, what puzzles me is out. but as they're m a poser, you know, spoke about her, but beat up and she, you know, i'm, she was a dim and thought whistleblowers only be protect eats. and sir, you know,
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the need to be the, has to be some safety mechanisms. and was supposed to so important for south africa . so if i was a president, you know, to some buttons and try to get resolved. so i've got a problem will thoughts? i think the problem is political and they just don't want this case to be to be untangled. ah, thanks sorry. say with us because we're going to take a short break and we'll come right back with. 2
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a a says at the end of the reason why you're bored via by that with my mom that on the global, those are let me know. it is only be feasible mentioned on from the yet could be a study sports took over the summer. you may, you could put a business. yeah. the z as in wednesday continue to be in the middle. but this equation was in the would go this week was to go with . 2 welcome back to the whistle blowers.
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i'm john kerry, aka, where speak with greek south african whistleblower ari denique us about the case of south african whistleblower beat. a dale koran who blew the lid off of a $47000000.00 corruption scandal at johannesburg hospital and was murdered for her revelations. or he didn't. august is a well known south african whistleblower in his own right. he blew the whistle on police death squads that were using apartheid era interrogation methods on black suspects, including torture and extra judicial killings on people suspected of minor crimes like auto theft. ari was more fortunate than the beat. it was. he and his wife escaped south africa with their lives. welcome back ari. this reminds me to tell you the truth, a little bit about your own case with the south african police and your own, your own whistle blowing. i can see a pattern connecting your case and but beat us at the time that you and your wife were fleeing south africa,
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you said that your lives were in danger. the south african police mocked you and they urged you repeatedly to return. well, but beat also said that her life was in danger. the police pretended that everything was fine, and now she's dead. tell us about your own experience here. why were you so certain that you were in danger? what was it that made you decide to leave south africa quickly told me my case going, but 2000 or 41 a was a volunteer. a peace officer for the soft police service are served with an authority skit amana units, and i start watching atrocities committed by mcculloch's. i was torture at the offices, i would say, you know, extra judicial killings. the unique term was collecting a lot of trophy, faultless off. did african saw speaks, and us again experience to realize that there's a decrease pa turned on on far less of human rights. now what i did
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was in 2004, i saw secretly filmed city short videos with one of my smartphones, with the had a camera inside. so i think 3 videos of actually a torture, often african suspect, the offices. so indeed, what bobby did the guaranteed and decided to do any tunnel bob, disclosure of us all i knew of saw it went to my senior commanding officer who was also supposed friend a dying and operated to stay evidence. and i said he looked as a promo here, postcards are the races, the going around, you know, violating human rights. and they also, you know, i'm, they don't follow the constitution south africa. so instead of i'm dealing with sate than investigating the, you know, she fully smiled commanding officer of the unit. he actually laugh about it. he said, well that's how my boys get the results. get rid of you don't speak to anybody. so
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there was a very 1st issue hobbs i'm when i actually i'm report is wrong doing after that the software installation that wasn't allowed to go to the office. i was searched my son, the funds was collected and put into buckets. and for the next 4 years that he meant to force i've witnessed further about this, which also documented eventually i went public with them. and the very next day i, you know, a bunch of bullshit came to my home. and they tried to intimidate me and tried to give me a verbal suspension to threaten me. my house had been burglars of the same dom offer of the of the month. i mar, soap had been shot that drive by shooting. i was beaten up my store. i talked so many incidents and i knew i had experience after 10 years in the police force to
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see them would've warranty and what will happen to me. and i end up, you know, taking my was leave everything behind me and virtually all smuggled out of the country. my friends, it was the only way, unfortunately, era, you safety. and unfortunately, i was lucky. no such fortune was lucky. i had a jewel, still zip. i double passports and i could leave the country, but better the koran been how the sanction there was an investigation into the allegations that you and others in south africa made. and you even went to the south african embassy in athens to make a formal statement. what ended up happening in your case, you were able to provide authorities with, with this actual video that you took. and i've seen it myself. these, these illegal police interrogations led to the deaths of people. the videos were very graphic. was anybody ever brought to justice?
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john austin. i went to next. all i tried to do bit mulash. yes. from scratch. i've lost everything. so, you know, i wanted to put it behind me, but i didn't because i thought to myself that i got into something about it. i cannot leave all this africans right behind me, the oldest dead, tortured the families. it's all about closer. so about accountability. so i'll send various emails through various, you know, networks, media networks. gov and organizations. laugh happened. so then i took everything i loaded on youtube and a channel, and i said i'd enough. i've done enough, almo mulash. then in 2011 an activist, contact me through my youtube john all the time and told me, are you aware that there is a criminal investigation or the cut them on a unit? says, no, i'm not. she. that's interesting. and then that the activists suggest that she get
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me to contact with ya, 3rd distance of africa. and example ladia sir. oh wow, that's got we'll you know, so after that i start talking to you a v, a national precision authority in the police detectives of south africa. and didn't visit me 3000 since applica from 2012 to 2016 up with my laugh into hold. and i cooperated. i guess my evidence i'm, i've tried to explain the situation. however, there was a dog cheese that were very corrupted and constant i'm. they tried everything to get me to fly me back to south africa and i mean, i couldn't bark. go by soft can biggest a. the so much corruption was in the unit. i mean, i know the guys and you have the operating, but my life was in danger. i mean, i had a new born at the time. i was a father for the 1st on malice and asked was of no,
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i will actually you need to guarantee the protection you need to put in a witness protection. you know, program you need to secure the thought that muma family are protect my dentist covered and, and then it will justify from a nother placed outside or south africa. we agree to that. and then, then every game of protections they came back. they asked me again to go box africa . i refused. and what did he say was very interesting to the saddle they did, they took my notes, my draft notes, know the ones we talk about thing, right. dawn who went bucked court with thought my knowledge and my approval was a lie, the courts and the produce my draft notes. i saw enough david, the fake my freak, my signature myself a font. i found this from the, from the newspaper and eventually they put in jeopardy the case the case was destroyed than if you buck to south africa. degrees of asked me again to help them
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with a mutual legal agreement. and a get us a guess. i'll help you, but you need to apologize. me 1st. a, you need to give me some sort of a, you know, witness protection, the lighting again, and assigned them mutual legal agreement statement. the lesson will no protection. and from 2016, 2019. where find out that the case had been dropped and find out by the media. that was a story by the media. getting back to bobby to his case, i know that you've been in touch with her family. i know that her daughter has spoken to the south african media. what are they saying? how are they preparing for? what eventually will be a a very difficult trial. sh. i'm i speaking to
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tony who is a pastor and they are brother and laura phillip but be ducks. an awesome said a few questions cuz i wanted to hear from the family and the told me that the devastated they told me that they had no feedback from the investigating authorities that told me that they are suspecting that the politicians through the inside they and she are not involved and they delaying the procedure. and they also told me that the door must face on the system. i thought the sods, they're frustrated. i mean this year gone by and this ramp was pointed out of the other. so there are exclusive strength than hurt. the system has let them down. the system has let them down. what did these cases say about the system in south africa, about the law enforcement and judicial systems at blueprint for free speech? the n g o, where are you follow these issues quickly?
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they have opinions, certainly on the south african system. are things moving in the right direction? or are they regressing in south africa? well, my slogan is sandrica. stop killing your whistle blows, some same foot arisen while in all this currently carrying so much corruption at political level in south africa. that there's no chance things will get better. the judiciary, the police, the courts are controlled by corrupted political party that is acting like a mafia family. throughout weaponized, the security forces and especially the police force inorder to silence whistleblowers. i mean, i'm hunting, nash. no, i'm handling a little forcibly for south africa. and an advocate for them and to come to me in order to support them and they don't. the dos of corruption was seeing the government and afford your shocking. with alexis, close by the garden. politicians are offered themselves and for the takings, the made down the traffic and especially the underprivileged africans are living
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poverty. the crime rates out of control, infrastructures and existing and the wealth as well as prom, blonde is still a nickel distributed engine of africa. i'm afraid that will get catastrophically orse before he gets better. greek, south african whistleblower ari denique. as thank you so much for joining us. before we go, i'd like to urge our viewers to take a look at our e denique as his website go to kato, manor death squad, dot com. that's c a t o manor death squad dot com for the full story. we like to thank our uniqueness for joining us and thank you. are viewers for joining us. i'm john kerry up who and this has been the whistleblowers. we'll see you next time. 2 ah,
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