tv Documentary RT February 10, 2023 10:30am-11:01am EST
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and to achieve something though, they just get off the stage already, ditch the script and prepared lines that suggest an interest in perpetuating this conflict. and instead focus on the more important but difficult work of securing actual peace. how to contribute a ritual martin, thank you. or russia, demands and assessment from the organization for security and cooperation in europe about the alleged use of chemical weapons by ukrainian forces in the don't yet. square public officials say as a result of key actions russian service men have been chemically burned and poisoned authorities. and on ice republic say ukrainian forces, if you're drones to deploy chemicals on the russian positions and they open the door and are chums. a russian investigative committee also is probing the incidence saying it's not an isolated case or the russian and basset to the united nation says that western countries will actually turn a blind eye to these incidents. our former western partners beat their chests and
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declared that they would not allow the use of chemical weapons by any one will have no doubt that they will ignore the additional war crime of this alaska regime. these are the double standards of today's west. let's learn more now of course, live down to the head of the russian delegation on arms control talks in vienna. mr . constantine got real of joining us here live on our t international. so are very welcome to thank you for joining us here on fi. we are getting more reports from the front lines about the alleged use of chemical weapons by key of troops. i in fact have seen footage on various telegram channels of drones dropping canisters and then you see russian soldiers essentially going into convulsions. are you expecting any reaction from countries that belong to the o. s. c e? i know they all seated this terrible
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picture when they really use some toxic chemicals or in our statement um from last wednesday. we clearly just always see a so called partners to come this terrible act as a use of chemical weapons. and you know, immediately after the a look with silence was a clear response to these. we'll see what happens next meeting we have next, next the wednesday. but i don't expect, i personally don't expect from my european colleagues, any reaction they my opinion can justify all atrocities can be done by ukrainians in their life front line,
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their rational groups and it's very, very saudi consequences. consequences can be absolutely different. a investigating russia, all these incidents and establishing parts and who perpetrated this will be punished, but no, you carry carefully. russian military look green, and it's clearly said when it's used. now most of the structural what can be done, it's up to, to superior said to the side on this, but it's a dangerous situation in we want to put it in. no reaction. i stated, we haven't received this is very said mister vale of i know you've seen the reports
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that over the past 8 years, the united states and other players ever been developing biological laboratories in ukraine. now we understand that many of these bio labs had been moved from ukraine to poland and baltic states. can you give us any details about that, please? no. during her last the last year, when the special military operation started, minister of defense reported many times on the discoveries of what they do, what they have found in the so called lumber. it is on the territory of liberated terri reese in are you creating? and it's clearly indicated that a lot of that's a lot of a lot of groups that they were developing very contagious diseases and making experiments on the people. and it was a hayden,
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by the government that was hidden from the government. and it was very dangerous for the population of ukraine and why they're doing these are moving the territories because they upgrade that new train and they can be more discovered. it can be more capture, so i think the phrase involved to, to prevent such developments. but today they had, it was clearly described by our representative in the new conference, another meeting. so biological weapons convention that the process is etc. samples are given and requested action against these, but it's still now. there is no positive moment rating committee to investigate
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this, etc, etc, etc. reluctance is everywhere, but nevertheless, it's not making safer for the world, it's dangerous. so there are a lot of laps all around the territory of russia in different states in the borders . and it's leslie baker. a such are illegal acts over the years government this? well then i'll saying is one thing with the governor's office when you've got the western media that really picks and choose what, what it wants to report a lot of these atrocities, essentially i just being ignored. i wanted to ask you, sir, if i may, getting back to the allegations of ukrainian troops using chemical weapons in this conflict, essentially dropping toxic canisters from drones. is there anything that russia can do to prevent, to stole, to stop, or even to respond to this?
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i think that is born to can be developed in the how it's not in my comb with this, you know, but i know this is a bad thing. i absolutely sure that my thought is, my son is seriously thinking how to respond. this is up to them to decide on this and i throw them up. so what about the landscape latest our trip to europe, mr. gov? real off? he's been going to london, paris, brussels. he's essentially being welcomed into town like the beatles or, or even elvis presley. and he's essentially asking for time because he's asking for a fighter jets and turn into a huge p r event. but how would you expect his tour right now to affect the crisis in ukraine? i think nothing will ever he's a mouthpiece or he's out them john. maybe he's the michael jackson. i don't know if he, accustomed to make shows in the world and doing the same thing now going call
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around with give me a minute. give me a, give me money, give me on the same story and i think you were given us getting tied on. and it's so much consuming economy that i look up a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, i don't think it will change the situation, sending more tags. so it's so problematic banks at banks and they can be billed for and converted into the items for the same like it's done. now, if you remember minutes, the story goes in one month in january,
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we destroyed 341 and then can what if europe, when the u. s. and more tanks, the 1st of all, they really sample how these are invincible, european medical times will be destroyed. it's very good commercial for the military industrial companies. i don't think they like it very much in our t a n t. 90. not so may need to see we have are they more superior than this one? adams and red flags. and they seem like the $72.00 mother lies. nothing more. our is they have skills they have experience is the most important in the comb with activities i speaking with the head of the russian delegation on arms control, talk in vienna, costa, think of real off joining us life or on auto international. a great pleasure having
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you on the program, so thank you very much for your time. thank you to thank you. meanwhile, the head of the wagner group says, company has stopped recruiting from russian correctional facilities. replying to a request from cnn on what could be the reason for that, he said that the group has all the applicants it would ever need from america. after we released the wagner pmc advertisement for the american audience, we received more than 10000000 applications from us citizens wishing to join us to fight against nato. at the moment we are considering about 1000000 american citizens for employment. therefore, we temporarily suspended the recruitment of volunteers from russian prisons. however, if there is a corresponding request from the us state department, we will recruit from american ones. and while the bargaining group remains on the front lines and the conflict in ukraine, it's been branded
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a criminal organization by washington. we had a chance to speak with one of its soldiers, who just recently completed his contract with the group that pick up the story right now. with ortiz, steve sweeney were in russia's north western city of st. petersburg meeting with spartak, a former convict, and wagner fi to whose recently return from the front line in ukraine. can you tell us how you came to join the army for us? was that 1st went to serve in the security force in chechnya in 2002. there were many issues to deal with in the motherland. i served until 2005 and was wounded in a special operation. there were many special operations in chechnya and we were defending a city in the va density region. we had shootouts with arab mercenaries. that's where i was wounded. but in general, there were many what's the difference between the all me back then and today i'm i was shamal abra shudders. we had to rely on ourselves. the army wasn't that strong back then. now we have a strong army. why did you decide to join cutter of forces?
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but someone was you be with me? my father served i loved my republic and i am proud to be a chechen. i have brothers sisters, my father, and my mother there. oh my family. how could i not join when i was called up? what did you do after you were wounded robert dollars that miss sarah? i worked here in their study to become a construction worker, to be honest. i haven't managed to find myself, but now i've matured became wiser. i began to break the law and got locked up. sure . and how did you end up in prison? rome of this dish, but i really don't know how to explain what happened. i was caught with a weapon after the war. i was young, maybe mentally unstable. maybe i didn't understand something in my own reality. i guess it just happened. do you have family and if so, how did i react to your decision to join wagner and head to the front lines to fight that bill? i have a child, a father, a mother, a brother, sisters. we have
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a big family. my son is 6 years old. of course, they were worried. that's our mentality. but what could be done? they understand our families, very patriotic. they love their motherland. all my brothers, my sister has 3 kids. her husband was killed in ukraine, but this is our country. we must love it and protect it. and how did you end up joining wagner? and it almost there was maria. i didn't think i would end up in wagner. i signed the papers to go and here i am. the boss came to our prison. he just made an offer and told everything how it was, the war is brutal. it's not the chechen war. someone decided to go and someone didn't. i decided instantly. i wasn't even thinking about the amnesty. yes, of course amnesty is great and my term is long. i had other motives, my relatives died there and i was ready to serve the motherland if needed at any
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time. what did the inmate think about these special military operation? what was their perception of what was happening in ukraine? but fellows, because when we found a chance will, i will say patriotism, there is much stronger than in civilian life. we were all watching and felt for our country, whatever it may be, we were born. our country is a great country. right now, some people are running away across the border. every one is different, some r i t specialists, some are storm troopers like me, but in my opinion, you must serve the country and make yourself useful. what is the process of joining wagner? how did that happen? the through the 30th the federal penal service communicate speaks to us. if you want to go, if you're ready, if you understand in 2 to 3 days he came back, then begins the paperwork, all the bureaucratic issues. i don't know the details. i haven't delved into it deeply. we talked and he took me away as he promised. he said he'd come and he did
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. and we flew there by playing then by helicopter. and then we arrived at the training base. what's going through your mind when you sign the contract, you are aware that you're going to the front line and as heavy fighting that you might die. what do you think when you put in pen to paper, joe? a shimmy. i did. i didn't think about anything for a single day to tell you the truth. i didn't make any further plans for the time after the contract. it's not that i lived one day at a time. i was thinking about to morrow. about the guys, the group. i was thinking about the performance of the assault group. it was like a fellowship. however, i didn't think of coming back to civilian life. we thought about the job and served as faithfully as we could. we tried to be useful. how did you become a commander doctor? yeah. well, i've served in chechnya. i didn't get the position right away. they look at your performance. it just happened by itself or more. there's no difference if you're
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a former colonel or an ex convict. what really matters is that you must know how to work and just work hard and efficiently. what training do you have? what? what was it like that i thought it did in rust of we got completely equipped to ammunition. clothing. we got everything. then we flew to the training base, we trained learned to shoot the 1st ones who went were the guys who served in the army. we had physical training there, shooting lessons. how hard was it worth their permit? as it should be? the guys can see for themselves what condition they are in. they realized that they had muscular atrophy. the training sessions were hard core until you're ready, they won't let you out to fight. and what did you have in terms of equipment and support or the adequate did you have everything that you needed? what a formal which for we're given 2 pairs of the best, uniformly rations for the last 4 months. we have been a couple meters away from ukrainians. yet we still drank energy drinks and 8. we
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have good, timely deliveries. well, what happened off the or last fight where we must very not a storm troopers also rotate. you need to swim, check your health. go through medical checks. we do it once a month. how long is the contract half a year? how he wound it? well, we had our 1st battle. we were trying to capture pill boxes. there were mercenaries . there are 1st battle with mercenaries. there were different ones, swedes, norwegians, poles, many others in a shoot out. 3 of us, 3 died. 10 people came in. we fought with dignity, shot every one. the task was completed in full and we left. how many foreign fighters are there? orchard logo. okay, a lot of we whacked around 40 in the 1st battle. right now, it's mostly mercenaries fighting. they're fighting. well, you are you. but after 30 minutes of contact with us,
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they run and that's all poor guys. they throw ukrainian soldiers at us. we whack them and catch them. they are also very ideological guys. like zombies, leave a lot of propaganda there. they think that they will soon take moscow, but they are afraid of wagner. why? version of that report? well, you see, that's how we were presented. i captured this one ukrainian or why torture him propaganda tells him fairy tales. nonsense food. did they change their minds off? they meet you alone with those more good. if i think many guys are ready to serve with us because they start seeing the reality, even though there's information on the internet, they're still heavily zombified thinking they're winning the ward and that we are orks. do you know progression? how is communication between him and the wagner fighters? yes, i talked to him many times. let me tell you, he's a simple russian man,
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a patriot of his country. yes, wagner is a private company, but it's not about the money. his soul is in it. he talks to us like a real lat, upstairs. western media portray, wagner is terrorists. what do you make of that lazopoulos for western countries? it is surprising that a person goes directly to the battlefield. they will all talk, but we're not interested at all. if we respond every time, then things will be very bad for us. we must have our own idea. it's important to educate young people to love their country, hooligan or not. everyone should know that their motherland is russia and that they have to be ready to stand up for it. lust laura chechnya is developing, doing well in russia. i would be surprised even upset if the chechens did not stand up 1st. chechen russian, there is no difference of wagner. this is my family,
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my brothers. i can call them sit down to talk, drink tea, go somewhere, help out. if needed, they have their own brotherhood. the main thing is for them to do their job. what was your heaviest fight, thus the fish will not tough because every battle is tough in its own way. but the 1st battle was the most emotional. there was a lot of adrenalin. i got a wound because i was in a hurry. i could have avoided that. do you get used to it? did you get used to the fighting? the good. yeah. when there is shelling, you know, roughly where it's going to land. if you've survived a month, it is easier to survive from than on. does it start to feel a bit like an everyday job? yes, of course. daily assaults shelling of both sides serious shelling. i couldn't even imagine that it could be like that. those who served in chechnya guys who also served in uganda, syria, they say it doesn't look like any other war. it's
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a brutal war. what is the atmosphere like on the frontline of kaiser? we try to treated lightly. war means war. the guys are very spirited. it's like they don't even think that someone can be killed. we drink tea in the evening. there is no talk of potentially someone being gone to morrow though. the. how do you feel being part of such a notorious group or through i'm proud in general that i served that i met the boss . i'm proud that i shook his hand. he taught me a lot, gave a lot to me, a moral or role. the conflict will end one day. what does the future hold for you but also full wagner group? oh yeah, i don't know. i'm ready to help somewhere to work. and wagner has a great future. in addition to ukraine, it operates in africa, protects russian interests. there are many jobs around the world if she were for of wood them at the ministry of defense. the national guard who all treat us with
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respect. advances on the ground have been impressive. wagner fighters were crucial in the operations. so russia take control of solid on why, why do you think that is? why do you think these achievements are so impressive? the most thought of because we're fighting there, there was fighting, but the results. so logistics tactics, morale, the boys are working. it's hard, it's winter, the ukrainian said that works will freeze in the winter. but you can see the results of our work. there is no difference whether it's winter or summer or russian. people are used to everything. if it must be done, it will get done. is there any interaction on the ground between the regular armed forces and, and wagner and how do you communicate with each other and, and reach a consensus? there was them of, we are on our own, our own tanks,
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a platoon of 425 people. 16 to 17 age yes. 5 mortars tank and a p c and a t g m. we have everything. we have our own planes right now. sometimes we ask our units for artillery back up and they don't stop until we say that we're going in the door. they cover us with mortars the supporters. then we go it lawyer, the sometimes there are no survivors. illness, how heavy are ukraine's losses. worship though the but huge or so they say they're missing. they dumped the bodies. we walked through the forest, there were a lot of corpses here. right now there are urban battles, but there were maybe 10 missing that end up being under a house with the bureau. what is hard fighting in the towns in the cities? oh, or in the forest? obama got a bourbon. combat is tough. the war itself is hard, tough, you know we, we are fighting a special operation. 42 countries support and then i myself wrote down what they
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are provided. well, when i took trophy, sort of the weather is body armor or a sleeping bag. a little bit of everything on technology weapons, chicks. it's a computer war l. a. quad copters. i couldn't even imagine that boy should let you love rulers. 42 countries be able to help you cry. go to believe they will stop from poland. levia will remain, but the big countries will peel away from this dirt. little by little. why are they on? i was out why ukrainian forces retreating? what, what went wrong with their lay of the peer? here's an example. you take a mercenary prisoner. he receives 2800 euros a day in salary payments. he thought it was going to be a safari, but they also realized that this is not of ghana. stan, not syria, right? there is no spirit, but we are guys with a spirit, an idea of whoever you are though. it's hard to go into battle when you think you
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may die. but when you know that it's for people and that your country depends on you, it's different. i never, not even once thought that we would lose despite the whole world wishing it. rubbish. who is russia fighting? is it ukraine? the 3rd through the we are at war with almost the entire civilized world. europe, america, all the weapons are there. it's not ukraine. poor ukraine. many there are also being forced. they have the i dar battalion mercenaries and ideological western ukrainians are also fighting their zombified. a ukrainian will sit in captivity for a week and totally changes when you do people on the front line, understand what they're fighting for, even though we'll get is our war. this is a holy war on our land, almost a civil war. these are our people and how was it not our war?
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i don't understand. who are we? if this isn't our war, your contract is over. have you been officially pond and the ball? yes. officially and state awards and p. m. c. awards and a letter of thanks from the head of guns. all is clear. so what are your plans now for the the coming day? the coming month. will you attend to the front line? yes, the luggable if necessary. yes. if i'm ordered to yes. in the meantime, it's family affairs health. my plans for the future is to get some medical treatment. remove of fragments about the wagner takes in, makes like yourself, i from prison. do you feel that you have redeemed yourself and is it an opportunity, vol. other prisoners to do the same. the yes, greater redemption only comes from god. i personally saw death 10 to 15 times in front of my eyes. there it was. i left the trench for
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a 2nd and my friend was killed. i believe i ever deemed myself, and all of those who work in the swore, every citizen must be ready for not necessarily stormtrooper. of course, there are computer scientists. there are poets. every one should do what they can. but you have only one motherland, and you must love it. ah, ah ah .
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who is the aggressor today? i'm authorizing additional strong sanctions. today russia is the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. a number that's constantly growing up in your future unless of course it's becoming believe you mostly mind the we're, we're sure we're banding all in ports of russian oil and gas to new g. i. g 's with joe biden, imposing the sanctions on russia has destroyed the american economy. so there's your boomerang
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ah, disturbing images on the headlines here when i say, as russia has slammed international organizations on the west for silo. so he has alleged more crimes. as more footage, mergers online showing the execution of russian soldiers apply ukrainians with 2 killed, including a 6 year old child is a comp clowes into a bus station in jerusalem is ready, police are treating it as a terror attack from un peacekeeping forces kill 8 civilians, and wound nearly 30 more in the democratic republic of congo of the protest erupted over the lack of progress in combating regional terrorists. also, india has discovered a record amount of lithium deposits, giving hope.
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