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there is no doubt pop culture has a major effect on society. over the past 70 years, there has been a significant rise in tv shows and films which included crime, the 34 year old killer. you young shouldered women, working in massage parlors to his home, killed them, would have blood weapons, mutilated their bodies and buried them in the mountains. and so these are the things the tell tale sign of somebody that's going to become a serial killer. thousands of films have been made in the last 15 years, about fictional and non fictional serial killers. in back the term, a serial killer itself. come from hollywood as a prior to the 1970. there were just known as mass murderers. i guess serial killer did better with focus groups or did the term do a better job of dehumanizing and ever present yet rare threat. thus making an

audience not think they are loved. one could ever be a victim dislike. they probably won't meet an alien or a deadly monster from the underworld. but that can be considered a very false sense of security. now, according to the f, b i, there are 25 to 50 active, a serial killer cases ongoing. at any moment in the usa and the u. s. leads of the race with more than $3000.00 and serial killers throughout us history. this is by far the largest number with great bit britain coming in 2nd, with 166 killers recorded. so considering the largest amount of media and hollywood attention comes from the united states, could this have a direct correlation on the large amount of serial killers in the country? to help us look at the media's portrayal of serial killers and what they're getting wrong, we want to bring in michael and lin matthews. now michael lynn produce a documentary on sex crimes and abuse in the military entitled justice denied

michael himself as a survivor of sexual assault in the military. welcome to you both. now michael, you produce a documentary on sexual assault in the military. tell us about your work. okay, well, you know, i was raped in the military when i was 19 and i didn't tell anybody for 30 years. and when i finally came forward in a counseling session, then having some problems. i realize that this is a big issue then then then just myself, i always thought it was just me, you know. and then loom got lost. so my husband came forward that his rate in the military and he's going through some counseling and some challenges and struggles. and i said, you know, we're going to get through this, you know, with support and education. we'll figure out how to go forward separately and together. and in that process, my husband made a suggestion about making

a documentary we were up at sundance film festival. while working with other filmmaker kirby dick and reduce it easier with the documentary, the invisible war. and when michael was hospitalized suddenly in utah during sundance, he said, oh, i think wishing me ill and i thought let the morphine talking. um and i said yeah, he sure will make a film the problem. we get home back to new mexico from you all. and i thought of that it for that a day, and i said, we're going to do this. we're gonna make a film. i had no film experience, it's probably better that i didn't know what i was doing while might not have attempted it at all. and so i contacted someone in the film community here which we had a large community and i reached out to michael l. miller. he is the director and i am the co director and i said we want to do this film. and as it turns out, michael l. miller. oh, the director had made documentary before and so i thought he could assist us

in it getting, you know, the a, the conversation and just the other parts that needed to happen. so anyway, we net was michael and i provided the subjects. and before i knew it, we were producing a documentary. and it's, it's a little rough looking. we had a small budget, but, and it made it all the way to amazon. so if you look at distribution, so your distribution on it made its way around. we went to a lot of film festivals with it and it was an interesting process was for novice at the time. oh, but you know, the, the most of the biggest thing was, was old. although, although like that will ruin in the united states armed forces by rape and murder. it regarding the subjects in the documentary, i was lucky enough to come across to men that were in the military that were

survivors of jeffrey dahmer. and i was quite interesting. it gave us an insight into serial killers and how they are in all facets of society. including the military and how sometimes people can really stay under the radar for a really long time. say, well actually yeah. um and, and i was instrumental in bringing them on board because they were very sketchy. they had a lot of people approached and being that they will buy jeffrey down and, you know, took a lot of talking on the phone and being a survivor myself. you know, they trusted me more than they trusted the directors and movie producers. so, you know, that got us that got, i got their feet went into that aspect of it. why are so many serial killers also sexual abusers? i think i was linear black, wasn't she better qual, court? why are so many serial killers, sexual abusers, etc. this is

a very good question. when you look at nature versus nurture, sometimes you can look back to the history of a particular person and you can see how they were raised to they have a good attachment to their caregivers were, were they isolated by jeffrey dahmer? for example, my understanding is that he had a mother that had depression and that also was not able to nurture him and hold him . and she didn't want anyone else touching him either. so you know, that can really wear on someone physically and mentally that's, that's a very poor attachment. and also jeffrey dahmer, my understanding is that when he became an adolescent he was also having questions about sexuality. and so he had issues around that. and i think his father was probably very unhappy with the road he was taking and basically encouraged him to join the army. and as far as sexual assaults,

if you look back up regarding people that are abused, not everybody becomes a serial till it's been sexually abused. and or physically, is it any other way? i think it's probably a multitude of factors. you have to also look at the psychological aspects of an individual. do they have a personality disorder on? is there uh, is there familial environment, some type of disarray? do they have any type of brain damage? no, there's a lot of other factors that bigger and she, why someone might become a serial killer. it's not that black and white. so in your view, do you think united states produces more serial killers than any other countries per capita? or is this really a global phenomenon from the reading said, i have john and speaking to other people in law enforcement as well. it seems to me that there are serial killers, you know, all over the world, not just in western countries. i think we have a lot of access to, to media. she could, you know, all kinds of media computers, radio,

television podcast. so if you hear more about things like this, and also it seems as though at least american society, if it bleeds, it leads people love the sensationalism. they love freddy krueger and they love dexter. and any other names of the old ones i can't well, but they're installed with, you know, the touching characters. i mean, people glorify dexter. it's like, wow, this guy is a hero. he's like robin hood, he's killing serial killers. and he and his and in his role he plays a police officer. so it's, you know, it's kind of an interesting juxtaposition. and then there's another show called berry, that's on netflix. and you've got on a veteran that comes back from either iraq or afghanistan. and he wants to be an actor, so he goes on to hollywood and takes a class and, but on his time off, he's a serial killer. so he so hate cereal killer. who's out on, you know, like i said, we tend to glorify things. there is murder obelia on e bay and on

a lot of other sites you can buy, you know, artwork drawn by, you know, john wayne gacy or manson. i mean, so people are sort of in thrall to mean, you know, look at holly, people are glued to their t, v sets, you know, watching, you know, horror of the day. you young movies, you know, it is kind of crazy, but it's kind of saying, because i believe probably that there is a lot of copycats in a lot of the stuff of the serial killing. you know, just like on the mass murders, i don't know if they consider the mass murders people, serial killers, although they kill more than one, but more than 3 people, which is the qualification. but you know, this goes on and on and, and a lot of these people love problems, watch, decently, wanna emulate these of me. for example, when you look at something like, you know, the holocaust, is that the serial killer, you know, that's debatable. if you look at the school shootings, look at parkland parkland high school,

and the killer was given life in prison because he had some type of neurological issues. then you look at, i'm trying to think um, bear with me a 2nd. oh, in new mexico. here we have the, the west mesa killer. it seems to be our prostitutes that they were finding in grades mostly. and then you go to new york and you've got the yoga beach killer, which was very similar to the west mesa killer in new mexico. where you have prostitutes again, that were buried, but in, along the ideals, the end of the dunes in the swap ears. where is it a sign of a sick society that we both produce so many serial killers and almost seem to idolize them in a weird sort of way. i don't know which sick i, you know, more as it is. as a fascination to white people do something. i mean, uh, we go back when i was a kid, i remember the movie, the bosses wrangler, played by tony curtis. i mean, you know,

i think we would just fascinated by why another human being would kill so many people. you know. i don't know. what do you think, lynn? yeah, i definitely think there is a fascination with gore. just like people want us when you're driving along the freeway as a car crash, you know, people are breaking. they're looking why they look at, you know, just keep going. but most people, with the exception of myself will, you know, want to look. there is some kind of fascination with, like i said, blood and gore and guts. ah, why that is i, i really don't know. we have been thinking with michael and lin matthews, producers of a documentary film justice denied. now stick around when we come back. we will continue the conversation on a serial killer obsession. i'm kind of using the 360, ah huh. ah ah,

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we're going to be discussing the phenomenon of a serial killer obsessions. we're joined by a couple of pretty se documentary on sexual abuse in the military and their insights into the world of serial rapists and murderers. welcome back, michael and matthews. you know, for the survivors of sexual assault and i've attempted murders. how does healing happen? well, i can speak to myself as the wife of mister bayver, i got my own counseling. i reached out to support groups online. there was some female, better in groups that were very welcoming to me. and as a clinician myself, i think there are a lot more resources now than there used to be with her sexual assault per se, whether it's the great crisis center or groups online. you don't even have to leave your house if you just zoom just like we're doing right now. so there are a lot more resources for people. and i think that's the 1st step to healing, which is being able to tell another person that suddenly happen to you that you need help. and very often with survivors of sexual assault, it can take 10 years,

5018 years, 20 years for someone to feel safe enough to come forward to someone that they trust and share that they are hurting and that they need help. and that's an opportunity at that point to share resources or to a system and finding resources. i myself was the in counseling at the v a in new york at the time. it was after $911.00. we went back and my wife was working with new york city fire department doing counseling, and it was a lot of issues for me. i had pdf steel did know at the tfc and i was going to the v a for counseling. and the counselor one day she just looked at me. she was want to tell me better rate in the middle of a session. and then with told her anything about that impulse, anybody my tire tire, 30 years afterwards. and i just broke down and i told her everything. i don't know why. and i asked the lady what, why, why did you wanna ask me questions that i tell you she was no, but you were just talking and everything wasn't fitting. and i've seen so many men

that were raped in the military. that, you know, i just figured i'd throw it out there and see what you do and don't. that's the reason i came out in them. i came home one day, there worked on a counseling for a few sessions and eric alma tell my wife, who was also a counselor. so i was in a say she was like, and i never knew. well, i didn't know that there was underline, depression and anxiety. i was aware of that, as far as annual courage will go to class and i said, what was going on like, what's bothering you? and he, he didn't verbalize anything specific. so i said, no, you had this benefit at the be a, you know, why don't you use it? so he sent me off from work one evening and he said, hi, i want to talk to you. and that's not something i can usually say, no, i don't have it in the pharaoh or something. right. well, i am sitting in the car and thinking i said to him, you know, are you sick like kid? yeah. cancer. no. did you do something legal? no. ah, do you have a girl french? no. do you have a boyfriend?

no. i think i went to like every question in my own mind. and i was like, oh, okay, great. you know it's something serious. and emily, we got hung, he sat down and shared with me what had happened. and in some strange way, i was almost relieved to know that there was something that we hadn't talked it out together for that was 20 years into our marriage a time. and i will, i wasn't crazy. and that now there was an opportunity to go forward with some healing. do you think things found the documentaries are cathartic or they're actually triggering, why does the universe keep doing this to me? lisa, continuing to investigate a 2nd letter. my belief in rich killer, i talked to one of the victims of jeffrey dahmer. ah, the survivors and i. e. e. he was quite annoyed actually because they don't betray correctly. you know, um he,

he tell some wild interesting stuff about it that we didn't use in the movie that the jeffrey dahmer used to call him. when the, when, when this guy went home back to arkansas, billy capture, he used to get 2 phone calls from, from jeffrey, down when he's travel across the country. and he actually told the billy capture that he killed the um, what was the kids name wash adam wall? adam walsh yet he killed a he called him from florida and said he just killed adam wash in hollywood, florida. and you know, that it really, really bizarre stuff that you know, went on and he would torment billy, went before he was captured, isa, called 1000000000 torment him all the time on the telephone. it's kind of her interesting stuff there. you know, it, it's like they really enjoy the are the tormenting the victims. and actually jeffrey dahmer was planning on killing ah, the,

to his 2 victims in germany. and he told that it to the milwaukee police and the, the i to the documents that he mentioned that he rate them. so it's not, it's not the, it wasn't a make believe or it wasn't supposedly she did this. he did this and you know, he actually admitted to it and you know, we're actually there's a on the, i don't, i know billy capture was visited by the, or the german police and inner poll. want to know more about jeffrey cuz they believed that he had raped and killed some young men in germany when he was there. what it is like this can't articulate the way that i wish i could. what it felt like to be told because you were raped in your sleep, you are not worthy of dying for the united states of america. are these cathartic experiences, cent, oftentimes, victims and family members

a don't get to talk about what happened to them. well i know one thing i know it was to me it was okay, but i went to a lot of counseling, lot of prolong exposure. you know, it became very easy for me to talk about what happened to me as, as a rape survivor. i know i for billy kappa shaw's after he did the movie and then came forward more. and now he's don't other other a speaking engagement, it's becoming easier for him. so yeah, i probably discuss cathartic. but i let linda evolve more of that for myself as a clinician and as the staff a survivor. and i'm fairly comfortable talking about trauma and traumatic events, i think for survivors in general, whether it's the towers falling $911.00, whether it's jeffrey dahmer, i think the more that survivors have an opportunity to share their feelings and tell their story. there is a d sensitization that takes place where it becomes easier over time,

emotionally to share about this. yeah, if you think about what we do as a society and how we, how we relate to these are these rapist and then eventually a lot of become killers, is that, that we let them fly under the radar. select the military, let jeffrey dahmer go. and they had him, they put him in jail, it 12 people would still be alive today from that. and if you go off into the, the college campuses and in the boy scouts and the catholic church, you know, if they just would do something about it, it would, it would make a big difference. thank you so much, michael and lynn matthews. are you are, should be sure to check out your documentary justice denied, exposing a rapid sexual abuse, united states armed forces and the case of a serial killers. there are 3 point of views to examine with the victim, often being given the least amount of attention. most of your killers are able to

commit their horrendous acts because part of their 1st victim, they were labeled outcast. therefore, their crime is not hurting anyone or anything they care about. serial killers, look to the media and hollywood to give them the attention. the in boost their own self esteem, something their prior life before killing offered. now the public has an attraction to these stories, mainly because they want to find an answer or reason behind the killers madness. rarely are those answers found and even more fascination endures. where there is demand supply as quickly produce, which produces a high profit. however, it's not just those seeking answers consuming and hoping for more material. rather, it could also be those serial killers who are looking themselves to become a household name. i'm going to hughes, and this has been your 360 view of the news affecting you. thanks for watching.

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