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i imagine returned z and welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from dubai in the united arab emirates, a country that's pleasure, a $100000000.00 of aid to syria. and turkey devastated this week by earthquakes that have killed thousands. but his office of aid around the world to both nations come in. how is war torn syria responding to help from the very countries that have been heavily sanctioning and bombing it for years, the united states accused of killing innocent. so the syrian civilians has pledged aid to syria this week while refusing to even acknowledge the country's president. but our law said after years spent trying to overthrow him. we'll hear to talk straight, talk to me straight from the of quaker hit syrian capital damascus. he's dr. bettina siobhan. political and meet your advisor to president boucher. i said thank you very much dr. sharon, for coming on. i better just ask 1st of all, what is the situation in syria, a donation mainstream media saying they can't get to syria, which is why they're focusing on turkey. thank you very much. ash in for asking us

the situation and sit in truly bad and particularly, and i little i'm let back on, come on the blade is as badly stricken by this week and what made it worse if that city has been fighting for 12 years. again, this horrible, better store that has been imposed on us and then what is make it 3 times worse is the american and european sanctions. again, a city which prevent us from dating our a means and, and ways of helping the people hard job. and while they last is talking that they allow the limited in assistance which is absolutely not true. unfortunately, action they, they were only talks about governments as if they don't see people and syria. and if you compare between b s p,

when they had that was immediately dispatched to death, he would, they had that law this back to see i, you see that there is no here, minute did and consideration. i told that with countries they only put that political, a bomb, and humanitarian. i'm 30 to what they claim on the time will nation media says they are very humanitarian. these nato powers and the showing us on repeats the only footage they have from syria of the white helmets as the main rescue is. and as you know, ned price, the us state department spokesman said no way to syria, be quite ironic, given all counterproductive for the usa to reach out to a government that is brutalized, its people over the course of a dozen years. i suppose quite one thing from them, not giving a to syria and preventing others from giving aid. is that what the united states is doing?

and docking and docking in there about these 2 clients. i think they liked it, states absolutely, and omitting a crime again, a city out by preventing any country from dealing with syria. when you have people chopped and that other grains and below those has become humanitarian aid because these are the ones that come to move that over. and in order to save people from undergrad until now did he has saved people from and that that avenue because if you see or, and the aid it needs from day west and the from, you know, i just, i for delight helen miss option i from following the media, i feel as if the west has taken the a portion of deals the of the adequate in order to have the light helmet do. researches again as there, and they call it to humanitarian. and it is

a better is the organization and all the documents to prove that the elements were working, hand in hand with isis, and syria against the c, n p. one. well be able to watch our interview with the boss of the white helmets on our rumble. channel, it was a band from rural gusta, in britain, shortly before we found her, which apparently committed suicide. well, as you know, the department of state in the united states as a different view, it's tweeting out to the arab world in response to inaccurate breast reports about the us sanctions. we would like to clarify the u. s. sanctions and could exceptions that do not prevent the delivery of humanitarian medical food and other aid to the syrian people. we will not prevent any country from providing such aid. for our part, we will continue to provide assistance to the syrian people. this unnamed individual that was tweeted out by the u. s. spokespersons media office to the arab world. what did you make of this tweet? i, i really believe that, that, you know,

they should know that the statement that given by the, as speaking in arabic from they react to things is, is, don't deli at 11. it's so it's so full, it has nothing to do with that through they not. this is sanctions, again, syria ad preventing any means of flies, of survival, of saving a human lives and syria. and what, what she said, i feel has statement in a speaking on behalf of the u. s. has not playing with anything at all. it is a magnitude to other preventing any country from offering re enhance that would it truly save lives and syria? what this proves option is that they really do not care about human lives and all

their claims about human darien issues and the human issues are absolutely false. narrative that has nothing to do with reality. we no longer believe anything this they say about unity or he'll never get an issue because it is totally untrue. so on the same day that the zalinski of kevin ukraine visited london, they were talking about across the media. the britain was also helping the syrian people is britain helping the syrian people. no another, don't notice then countries had been defeated and people at dawn. you know, the problem is that i'm glad that you are there option and out the is there so that people can see and he has some of the through the what the going on? because honestly, well then, that day and you know, full of life that have nothing to do with reality not and neither rhythm nor germany, nor they lead. not only that action. now i say through your channel,

i challenge them to i now and the city and person anywhere in europe, or they you as to transfer money to syria city and expect it to out and you know, and they, and i did say i'd chimed in at most just to send money to transfer money that badly affected area. and no one of them was able to transfer any money at all to syria because of american and european sanction linden len. this is because they and i to say it's come out and say, i didn't want to send the money to syria would be allowed. no one would be prevented from sending money to syria. i would then believe that they care about you money, that initial and about people. and you had to come out and say that will the earthquake, of course affect the 2 countries, turkey and syria. did it, did that fact?

and the epicenter so close to the north of syria border means that there is now a chance of cross border cooperation between turkey and syria. many people who may not know about the syrian civil war. no, the turkey was involved in turkey, obviously as a nature member as well. any chance of the earthquake could foster better relations? i know that already the countries that have given aid the you a, russia, iran, saudi arabia, china, kuwait, jordan, of some of these countries are not always predisposed to the us government. could the earthquake mean a greater rapprochement between syria and the outside world? i really, i didn't know how me to answer this was to later but the start by saying if you count the come to here not have sent a to dead, he would see the difference. you k u. s. italy in spain, austria, poland, degrees,

romania on all these countries in japan. sounds good here. all of them, centuries skewers, dumb machines to dirty, but they did not send anything. presidio. so there are people in duke and people in syria. i've shopped under the level and they're to quick affected both countries. the least thing these companies can do is to we have on humanitarian bases and to send rescuers and dogs and machines to both countries, especially that syria has been typed in your war against terrorism for 12 years. why did he hasn't been doing that? asked for that up, rush, my option between turkey and syria, there are efforts exerted by russia and now probably will be just don't fight it on in order to try and make that 2 countries too. but i do know, did he occupies part of our country in the north west of syria,

and therefore any thought would have to restore our rights 1st before we can establish normal relations with the country. well, apologies for 12 years for technical issues, a serial may be historically one of the foundations of civilization would. obviously it is under sanctions or the one was clear on the 5th of january saying that he might sit down with us or to foster a piece of there's no active negotiation about having that meeting with the other one of tokyo well, and the meeting should the how they people should have a time if their target is to solve the issues and to try and, and find a solution for terrorist organizations that their key is. gardening is guys gardening,

in syria and to restore their sovereignty to theory integrity and then to establish relations. because as you know, most of that there is came to syria through their fish borders. but now if ours are under way, especially by inertia, and as i said, it might be john by it on, in order to make the stokes possible. but of course, there should be an agenda. there should be a preface from the stove. and unless we know where, where it had been, we can start off without knowing what is the point? do we want to get to from the stalls? you said russia maybe trying to facilitate that. syria is supporting rushes campaign in ukraine. it's been a week of news about that, which hasn't been arguably covered much in the nato nation media after the great report as i hush, who exposed abu ghraib and the my lai massacre claim that his sources show that the biden administration blew up the nod stream. pipeline,

and thus was in effect involved in a terrorist set act widest syria support. the putin government over ukraine. well, because that british and government, there had been men agreements and the guy, it's best for 6 for 8 years in order to solve problems. but it was the american and new to p n who did not want to solve the problem. and anyway, that but what acted it. chauncey letter did money, medical shed lose that blood, that asians were saying about the nutrition deal. i'm pretty mentoring. the agreement was absolutely right, and if the west has the will in order to solve the problem with russia, they would have sold the problem. we believe that the russia is fighting

a war in order to preserve it's sovereignty, its integrity. and then nate will, of course, is fighting this war again, especially with money and not moments. it's not a war on the, on by ukraine and russia is really the nato who is fighting most truly fighting this war in order to p unit polar word. while russia and china, i'm city on to it, on an india, we are all calling for a multi polar war 2. and with this weapon he company over our we're dr. potential run. i'll stop you. the more from the syrian president bush are lots of political media advisor off to this break. ah

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with ah, welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with syrian president bashar la suds, political and media advisor, dr. bettina shavon, in the nato nation media landscape, not in the global south. the main report to come from syria apart from the o. b c, w, which i will get into this was on the guardian, cbs news b, b, s, france, 24 will street journal news week daily beast. a p news which lied about a russian missile on poland. 40000 syrians, apparently fighting in ukraine. and they saw this to the syrian observatory of human rights, which i know are ti, the channel, the going on. the ground that goes out on the showed was just a house in coventry, is all the news in the west biased about syria and the,

or all that $40000.00 syrians fighting in ukraine. you know, i and why don't they put some of the see it ends on tv and show us that there are city and sniping in your plane. honestly, action sometimes i feel bad because then additive in the less than media i so far removed from the truth. sometimes you feel it's not planning on telling because it has nothing to do with that. he ality with what's going on. i don't know how, how they allow themselves to indent stories and then to say, create them like one day and claimed about yeah, with the oak, the c w a y, the people that the expense who were sent to syria said that i let the pores wow, what would thrown i way back in and you were informed that has nothing to do with the way that has been done on the gown. so how could they be moving around

it? oh so now i do that, that totally removed from reality. i don't know what to start to answer them really well. the russians acclaim that there's also a culture war. i know last time you spoke to us about the feeling that nato in the west had a culture war on ancient syria. as regards the so called civil war regarding the busy w at the un security council, the u. k said there is undeniable evidence of the syrian state use chemical weapons to murder its own citizens. this from the i t, which is a type of got an offshoot of the oprah c w that's been created, which i know china rejects at that meeting. and obviously russia, the u. e said, on the other hand, we emphasize the importance of the findings of this team in the next council session, referring to an assessment team that's been there. and as for the u. s. the biden administration, they just when you know it's an indisputable asada regime killed,

43 men, women, and children. what did you make of this, o, p. c, w, conclusive report, as it's been reported in the west of chemical weapons use in no undeniable in dispute of it is the adjective that they put what, what they do on what they presented is disputable is denied when i, even the expert who came to see leanne 2 way on the ground, the all the see that a new report is absolutely critical targeting or nothing to do that to get off the little i let them now extend to hand the people hard top and that i believe it was human lives on what the less does, it has been proven is according to its political agenda. it has no human consideration whatsoever. so do you think fernando arise, the boss of the p. c, w is basically a what and they do agent that i, that i, and many people,

many experience who are preparing that a for the showed out there of the c, w is publishing is absolute nonsense that has nothing to do with reality. i'm going the option, let us ask the question, can you imagine any government on earth, the start it back in the morning of the at and i a few and dean does check. gimme get it back in. can little. i mean, it doesn't, it doesn't make sense at all. yes, there were many, they were many experts who, if you did these reports and who said that, then he had important that we would wear wished aside. and they all busy w, invented data and invented ideas and put them discernible that has nothing to do with what we discover on the ground. and yet they don't listen except to what

they're writing and saying is this the chosen method of nato nations? it was interesting that it was the russian ambassador to the un with the syrian envoy speaking in new york. obviously, there was a screwball attack in britain using a type of chemical weapon, russia seeming to warn that any day. now we may have a false flag, chemical attack in ukraine. do you believe that the p c. w is actually more important than ever? i think, i think probably this is what they're trying to do. daddy diving bell, b. c, w, at a port and you know, things are connected in order to act. you is in the shop using chemical again. if you play, i'd say dad, what is happening in the ukraine between dish on a bill is extremely connected to what is it also said related about india when i looked in on or as an issue? well, as i say,

the united states and britain and the u. s. is arguable vessel states in europe all agree with the o. b, c, w reports, the final i t report while this earthquake was going on, some people may be surprised to find out. the syrian government is accusing the by the administration of stealing 66000 barrels of oil maybe every day. how much does the, by the administration know the syrian government, the syrian foreign minister fights will make the claiming, honored in $1000000000.00, owed currently. so the, the american administration is occupying and stealing your oil. yeah, of course there occupying the north east though steady. i would. oh no. all at all and well, the odd way i would what i would i learned guy and then you know, we can, everybody can see jobs, american truck, the stealing,

the city and all. and across the border are probably $250.00. and the question is, how can a country and the size and the importance of the united states who claims to be teaching humanity, morales and, and ethics. how can the new, the oil of the syrian people and me know, i'm under the sun, i believe it or they can see them. so i, yes, i think bad losing out on that engaging for partition of studio and getting some elements and city up paying them money in order that to constitute a kind of independent entity in order that to partition sylvia. and then they claim to be fighting terrorism. if they did nothing that he lou have defeated on that terrace. and celia, the only in that is when we had

a ballot to completely and that are, is i'm in syria. and so they, they, they've provided a cover for isis until that interest and based of syria. of course, they did to continue to deny that will deny so much the oil f f, as the earthquake affected the oil theft that you allege. and there have been some reports in recent months of syrian soldiers stuck in america vehicles. it, it's mainly and then the at the quick as many in the northwest and they have orders those steady and if people are putting in a lab and they said it did not get to the north east city. meanwhile, of course, while all this is happening and related perhaps to the multi polar world, you speak of that china has been saying that a fang be out of the chinese ambassador, syria, that the inclusion of syria and the belgian road english to provides the greatest contribution to the economic reconstruction and social development of syria,

do you not think the nature powers we watching this in will one to again start up the war on syria. i know that war plain to be narrowly bombarding syria over the past few weeks armed by britain. the united states and european union nations where you mean, what about that? all of china had been syria. yes. that's what i'm asking. well, we are actually counting on the eyes of china and russia on that breaks on the shanghai. we are also something in requested to be of there, but in shanghai, the way it is definitely changing and where we definitely are in the right hand side of history by standing with dish on china because it is a human need. now the multiplan word is a human need because what does it go?

many now really is typing an existent child war because they know that, that child for pressure on the east and come in this war would mean wanting an end to watch them. he'd go many and that's why they are hiding up to what to do to locks in that china sea in africa, in the middle east to do in order to preserve that here go many and leading that is looking that is sources of the people i am sorry, you say that, and yet the war planes will be over damascus. perhaps tonight. what's it like in damascus? and is there nothing that syria can do to stop the israeli war plan bombing your country? why less than one plan? do you know that the only thing i can please for from dishonest entity which is not a member of cent gong. and it is mandated by the united states to create

problems in syria and iran, and any country from inside the country. and that's why they are intent on weakening studio are trying to we can syria, but i would like to say to you option if you see now what the city and people are doing, how they are from on programs is from one villages from one walks a flight letting everything they can to had left and, and the poor to had the people, you know, the secret of the strength of this country and why it lasted for thousands of years . because it's people who behave as one person. there is so much love so much mercy, so much solidity among the people. and i hope we will overcome all difficulties and who'd be able to overcome this crisis, even without the help of the i just finally all condolences of course,

from the going underground team for the people of syria affected by the earthquake and, and turkey. if as you argued, britain, the united states, france were wrong to bomb syria, to help in the destruction of syria, will they ever be brought to justice for what they did to syria over 10 years, 11 years, i said the name i sent them to hope so but now with this it guy says i see if they and i did state, i'm due to leave the dead humana claims you money dead and claim bet. denise doing be can do is to lift the sanctions. now all the syrian people are and to stop talking about government, they are imposing a collective punishment against all this year and people all in children, all duty and men and women. they are not imposing sanctions against government. they are targeting issues and people and they're protecting at time again, as they stated and people are, it's b o, b, b,

as they claim. the 1st thing they should do now is to lift the sanctions of syria. dr. bettina siobhan. thank you, and that's it for the show. our condolences from the whole team here are going underground to those bereaved by the earthquakes will be back next, saturday, would comedian and presented jimmy door ahead of the rage against the wall machine demonstration in washington dc. but until then, keep in touch my role as social media, if it's not sensitive in your country and you can always had to watch on going underground tv on rumbled com to watch new and old episodes going underground. see very soon. ah ah ah

ah ah ukrainian nationalist use multiple launch or rocket system against civilians. the once again here, in my case, one of the shells is still stuck here in this house or not. we report from russia. i don't yet, script public web, multiple civilians are wounded and made. ukraine's latest artillery attack destroyed the homes of local residence. there is always a copay for waking up, but i'm afraid that there's 2 of us to sleep so far. this is a conversation between the different aussie here from russia's ambassador to the un