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the fighting terrorism is celia pull the luster ideas, know so when you support countries support those support when support country old people to support them in every aspect. oh for is our civil problem or anything the faith. but do i think we think what you've done here is great work because did the 1st time period 200 so could is out of the did do during the last 250 years completed. so we didn't have an a citizen that got your, your team well, ready, great and helping our team and saving many, many like that before we go and assure you this protests in front on saturday were said to have been among the largest witness in recent years. as opposition grows to a manual microns plans to raise the retirement age in the country by 2 years. ah,
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hundreds of thousands of people took to this shrieks across from says several major labor union security national strike. while pension reforms triggered the unrest. other issues like the high cost of living and the energy crisis are said to be major contributing factors. unions have warned if the reform bill isn't either removed or significantly altered, they'll put bring fronts to miss some still from march. second. will that is iraq for this news? our but stay close for more programs getting going in from the newsroom team and myself. you know, neil, good by what are you crazy? oh yes. ward the glove. i lost
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most of my friends but i was broken. i wasn't able to save anyone. i did nothing in that. i met wilson. 2030 god. what's really in my way to make me start talking to willy waiting for me to them. i'm happy that trying to find these willy little john. you can go to sleep. my mother had become my new friend. the one was love gonna die or i was, he is going to stay alive those day next to me. if
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i'm not crazy enough. i'm not gonna make it. ah ah ah, he's talking about the quote issue just and what else will she do toward coming up
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with what you books from which mutually which would allow what you see is not a simple denial for your mortgage food. echo just yeah. i just a bunch of alludes legion wise, you know, what i'm actually stuck up did it when you are so visual with just a quick missed issue with jenny william lou. lou do do is just us. oh boy at the tone please. yeah, it's no worries. no, we do, but as it will hold, you can lose this month and it still to with the clear use
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account or i notice that i can, i don't know of national garza sheet article it can you possibly can slow out nice from the local neutral teacher to me, yet the issue, especially with oh, is your media a reflection of reality in a world transformed what will make you feel i selection whole community? are you going the right way or are you being led to some with what is true. wharf is great.
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in the world corrupted, you need to descend a join us in the depths or remain in the shallows. ah, well, mister ambassador, i do wanna thank you for this great opportunity to speak with you and also extend you greetings for the day of russian diplomacy. so i will begin by asking you recently we heard that zalinski, the ukrainian leader, has said that the minsk agreement was simply to was simply a concession. that's the language he described it with. and he went on to say it cannot be implemented. we've also heard from angela merkel. she has said that it
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was simply a tactics a by time for the ukrainian army. so my question is, does that change the possibility of future negotiations and on what terms would russia be willing to engage in such talks? first of all, thank you very much for your congratulations and due to the survey means for us, this is a day remembering that the traditions will be russian soviet and the russian diplomacy and well look to remember. oh, on what you asked me. i think you already gave an answer, buckley, at least indeed we heard this citizen statements by zalinski, by i'm going medical by you a bible on the bipolar sunk himself. which simply betrayed the extra confessed that means agreement. so what a hoax to buy time for you could and besides minsk agreements, sir, is the keys of the failure in provence. because have they been implement faithfully?
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nothing. what, where would message they would be happening, but they were not meant to be implemented. so when people say this started dealing with some will, might be, will my day diversity will say you are on chronology that started 9 years ago. 9 years ago we were begging you to listen to us. nobody did. now we've heard from a number of western leaders that they think the only way this work and is with the defeat of russia. so if that is the town, is there any hope for negotiations or peace? they're not just saying that the can only end with the end of rush. they're saying they're talking now about dismembering russia. they're talking about destroying russia. they are, they are a talking talking. some of the officials, high level officials, are talking about the russian leadership. what's that where they should be,
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where it is now, some state things go beyond the beyond more just simply diplomacy, but, but serialized, civilized communication, on a possibility of negotiations, our position is very clear. we stated numerous times, we stated the goals of our, our special mil to reparation. what that is aim full. we were ready and still ready for serious negotiations which were interrupted. so see stop by. but ukrainians, or of course on the, on the order from their masters and sponsors in april last year. besides, there are numerous statements by the ukrainian high level officials on how the c, a possibility of negotiating was russia. besides, that is a law had decreed that was signed by president zalinski himself, where he and where he prohibited himself to deal with the current russian
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leadership. ah, so we do not see any seated attempts from the cleaning site to engage the negotiations and all those initiatives that we're hearing from them on, on the piece plan on very assignments. so this is frankly joke. ah, besides, we know for good the they are not calling the shots. those who kin enforce them for cities negotiations. are they lever in this country somewhere in europe or on one of the aisles across the, the english channel? if they are willing to do so, they will engage, but we don't see any willingness on the bottom of the sponsors of give to go to her negotiations with russia and do it, do it to citizen. and besides, besides, we are not negotiating with the business of all the meetings,
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but we're here now at the united nations security council, you have repeatedly pointed out that pouring more weapons and the key is not going to bring peace, it's going to prolong the suffering prolong the depths, but we hear the u. s. representative. just continue to dismiss everything you put forward about the danger of lethal aid and weapons going into care. do you think that there is any hope for waking up the last about the long term consequences and what's going to result from pouring all these weapons into ukraine? there is always a hope for waking up, but a, i'm afraid they're, they're still fast asleep on the matter. we just had the we had the security council briefing, which we requested cluster of this week in effect. only this week. hook on the i'm supposed to clean and we're visited, an enormous efforts. my me that falls into ukraine, that feeds the conflict. you know that we invited roger was so put up,
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briefing them, and there were doubts that he could be a brief on the printer, which he brought. he could have quite a, quite ably. i would say we, he was not the pro ration when he spoke his fault from what you think. we never when we invite brief us to the security council will never dictate them condition on what they should be saying, not writing scripts for them. you have what, what's happened the at the meeting. indeed. so we're so far, this is a conversation between the deaf and the blind. now, there is talk of the western countries convening some kind of war crimes tribunal against russian. and if that were to take place, would it be possible for russia to then bring things to the front and go back to 2014, talk about the atrocities that have been committed. i, you know, talk about the repression of the orthodox church and other activities going on in ukraine. would this be possibly
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a mistake where things they don't want brought into the conversation would suddenly be a topic. we've been raising these issues all his 9 along 9 years consistently . we continued to do so, but you have to recognize there is an iron wall and neither media will i would say that we are trying. we are doing our best to bring that that to the people are recently. but so far not so long ago. we held a so called a formula meeting on what is happening in don't bust then what has been happening there in not just all these years within this months, because in this months the shelling of don barza residential areas. anthony, i intensified enormously. ah, $16000.00 in the couple of last month, or if i'm not mistaken, we brought witnesses lie, witnesses who, who gave their personal accounts on what is happening. all is ignored. they
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read their monitors from the script, are not willing to listen to anything. yes, many of those who are committing crimes and the grain today on the part of the give resume should stamp trial. and we are saying about that the officially that we're noting down all the crimes that the give resume is committing against its own population basically. and against the people of don bass. ah, we will not forget it. and they will one day with another stamp trial for the cries, they committed, including on the battlefield fund. when they usa, usa civilians, as a shield, went on uses as a shoe. they do all the time when they commit crimes against the prisons of war. even those outrageous things like what happened to a couple of days ago with the killing, with arbiter kitty, the killing
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a blank shots of the russian prisons. a war is, is largely a glory ignored by the west. but the office of human rights was, was forced to recognize that it looks a geniune and that it deserves being investigated. now, when western leaders talk, they frequently referenced this rules based global order. that's the thing they constantly were speaking about. my question for you is, how is that kind of rhetoric and this talk of a rules based global global order? how is that viewed in south america, in asia, in africa? how is the world reacting to the words of us and western leaders? her we, we've been speaking about the, this settles based world or the a long time are saying that it's not international, which is a in woodard primarily in the u. injured. not many listen to our cities live the
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time. but now i think the, the opinion in those countries, the to that you mentioned sir, is changing. we just recently celebrated the 20th century verse of the, of the, of colin powell, vio him, the security council, which you may consider to be the beginning of the current face of this new rules based international order. we are saying 12 partners that what is happening today. you should look at that carefully. m m. the said that today they came after russia to morrow they will come up to any country that will be not much in june with those who seeking the on the world. and then a follow up by asking, what do you see the role in russia being in a multi polar world that is emerging. the world is much bigger than, than the so called collect to west of the world. these are africa, the world is a great the you asia,
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the world is late in america and indeed indeed the world is becoming more multi paula and multi paula perhaps or it becomes less and less multilateral when the parts of at least a certain group of countries but the role of russia, you will, you will never erase social from the world map whether somebody likes it on the russia will be, or was a major playing the world politics. okay, now let me ask about the un security council itself. how do you assess the work that they've been doing? i know there been calls for reforming the un security council and the representation on it. where does russia stand on all of this? we are not subjecting the reform of the school it cancel. ah, the process goes long time more than 20 years, and that is not the. that is not the a problem over of russia or anybody else blocking it than a such grave contradictions between the positions of groups of countries in the
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individual companies that we cannot give, or anything that could be could be construed as consensus or sometime shortly. so to see, but we are saying that we, we, we recognize that the world to do it today of the security council does not represent fully the world today that has changed since the time when the security council was established. we say that the, that such such origins as especially ethnic asia in latin america under represented there. and that should be, that should be rectified. we do not see any of that value in adding for the security council, especially as primitive members or for the companies of the so called collector west because we have enough of them already. and we don't think that they will contribute to the. busy of the security council any anyhow differently from what we're seeing today. but again, i say the processor,
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this whole goal to integrate mental negotiations on the security council reform are going on in the general assembly. but so far we're not. so somewhere we get where we can, we get when we were, where we can say we can achieve, achieve agreement. so on this reform in the, in the nearest, huge. now, earlier in our conversation, are you referenced that horrendous video of the execution of prisoners of war, and it's now verified, it's authentic, this crime was committed. what will it take for western media? it's a kind of start acknowledging the horrible things that he had is doing. do you see any possibility of widespread acknowledgement of these atrocities? i mean, is western media just not going to acknowledge these realities. perhaps they other knowledge in that search within themselves, but they're simply ignoring its own on the mass media. if you thought, perhaps,
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of course, remember her such a, such a horrible stages as you, as the so called massacre and witcher or the killing of people at the railway station parameters are on crowd those. these are unfortunate people were, were, were hit that killed by the ukraine in me, so which was on the footer. now they're not talking about that at all. but in the public opinion of it is the russian crime. nobody looks for the, for the details. what happened, how it happened, what was throwing up, so i'm not very optimistic that this to her and describes, will be brought to the western public her by the wrist media. now, recently i, you talked about how western leaders were objecting to cooperation between molly and russia and the you use the term neo colonial to describe their attitude. why is it that they seem to be so bothered about russia's growing relationship with africa?
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and can you describe that relationship for us that are the relationship between russia and africa, with african countries where many but there is growing, and that the causes jealousy on the pots of those companies who consider the that to be their back. yet, i will give you one example, i think i will not betray anything secret. now, by now, a couple of years ago, at the high level segment of the general assembly, minutes to lovegrove was meeting the current chief european diplomats was anybody who distinguished himself recently was some comment. is that the arrest conservation among the public and then the barrel was asking minister level of why are you dealing with my why molly's trying to to, to engage with you a to which minister laurel said look at this is a sovereign country. they decide was whom to do if they chose to deal with russia.
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that's their sovereign choice. to which the chief european diplomat said to him the following place. don't mess up in our book yet. can you imagine the while, while it is repeated in western media, frequently that russia is to blame for the global food crisis, that it's all russia's fault? how do people see this around the world? there was a meeting recently her as a recent, as a late january this year, o d, e e u, comedian agriculture, where they gave where they gave a quite a saba analysis of their problems in the agricultural sector. which is related to the but their, me, to inflation, to energy and food prices, to their hurrying green transition, etc. so when it comes to themselves, they are able to describe it to describe with a, probably enough while for the public,
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they blamed the current foot crisis on the intrigues by the climate. we are saying consistently that the foot crisis didn't start one year ago, that that was the result of their own policies which preceded that at least 3 or 5 years. including massive were printing over of her money by the major economies, including the existing policies on foot supplies, et cetera. so of course, this crisis is not the result of for over what was happening last year. now if you are referring to the brain deal, or rather not the grain with lisa wool agreements because there's construct, they consist of 2 parts. one is the grain deal for ukraine, and the other is memorandum on the extra russian food and fertilizers are from the russian federation. so the, the grain deal is working full steam. ah,
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it's already more than 20000000 tons of various grays that were exported from ukraine and they are not flying to the most needed countries are mostly yes, some portion but very small. one like 3 percent of those who are really struggling with hunger at the same time. not a single grain in singular and very little fertilizers were exported, sir, according to the 2nd part of the duke. yes sir. the 2nd that a gentleman that recognizes is doing his utmost to go to solve it. but he's a, he's a knocking against the wall because there are so many sanctions are they, they keep saying that the grave and put in my there's a are not on the sanctions. yes. they are not formally, but friday's insurance is, but banking and financial transactions are you named. so
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that does not also contribute to solving the food services in the world. and it main exacerbated because one thing is the full crisis and the, the, the, the, the food itself. the other thing is the future harvest, which depends a lot on the 13 lows and fertilizers are russian fertilizers, which are, which are paramount for the future. a future commercial production. right. and i believe russia at this point is being blocked from sending fertilizer to syria. and i was wondering if this is actually being addressed at the united nations. it's not that a national was blocked from sending fertilizers to cedar. it is that the operators are not willing to do so because because these fertilizers are considered user shoe products which come under the some famous caesar like by this, by the united states. yes, i that of the secretary general and asked him to help solve that problem. because
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students needed badly, especially now in this tragic times of the living through. but so far so far, no, they have not been shipped. and part of the grain deal and the negotiations was that there should be a lifting of all sanctions affecting russian agriculture. but this from what you're telling me doesn't appear to have been implementing. is there any hope for this being implemented? who was always there but with the, with the multitude of rules and regulations, so on sanctions that these countries introduced in particular you, they say they, they made some delegation delegations, but in fact, when, when it comes to the national level, it is not implemented there. secondly, there is this so called a compliance when companies are simply freights to be sanctioned themselves who are dealing with russia, even if it is in their view, legal, although it is illegal person. well, i want to thank you for your time. i know you are very busy and you've got quite a,
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a task at hand. you know, standing up to all these lies at the on security council. i wanna say it's really been an honor to speak with you and thank you very much for taking time out of your day to put thank you a ah, today and blue and never done before. we trigger the general k. that means national government can into the a little frantic voting up and yet we didn't have bad. i'm not there yet. it to us own to that at all. with my son he died in the me that no, i meant to be sick at sick with his dad, my son. he started on monday,
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but i had to do the physical for you guys to just do this. and he said, i mean so that it resets your home phone. go out of lam, i'm not sure who to she, but i'll agree to give her a soon as you read this will be to on i want to probably much a more stable going to receive a final push them, but i didn't give them the dollar last last, you know, with
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with joggers archipelago home and she goes to san diego garcia, the largest island in the archipelago is now the location of a very large u. s. military base. you get government. he's a u. s. government to make a military base and just deported or douglas and people from their country so they can return back on the island never. but we are fighting a lasting for the leg. i. c we do not consider that the right to self determination actually applies to the general sense. and on the question of self determination, the legal advice we have received is actually the chickens. we're not at all, not
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a people. for me, it's time to move on and see what we can do. a full the tumbler said committee to return back home. they acknowledged support from the nomination. high commission, african united miss. i don't care about. tigress said people with tillman be told me. focus our hiding in addition, the, i mean, you're right on my, like i said, they say that your most in place. i work with most total di donaway. so you know, this place that people come from one water course close to them and the tunnel them i use it with you last as lynn has been more in this court almost now the navy is i can madness. of course i see dulcie.

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