for the industrial revolution and in marrow cash, we cross to mark j. he is an award winning journalist and commentator for a gentleman, cross our rules, and that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. but it's got a good amount sloth, so we came see more, hers came out with his report, his investigative reporting on the ending of the north stream. pipelines ending very much like what biden said, sending next to the the german chancellor. so glen, i mean, this is supposed to be a great mystery, but it's not really much of the great of a mystery because when, after it happened, there was very little bit talk about it. and when someone like see my hearse, legendary journalist writes about it is completely dismissed and hardly reported on your thoughts. well, this is sam, a key problem or with the how media limits the debate. i mean is a good a. you can give the illusion of having a open democratic debate if you only narrow the scope of what's allowed to be discussed. so wasa draw show or was it a mystery?

as long as you have a vibrant debate within that scope a, it seems to give dilution but, but again, it should have been if they would have come as a big surprise for a, for a, for others pick. it cost us, you mentioned washington for years. you know, they tried to stop this project to condemn the germans for building it. they've been sanction dear p companies for building it, you know, in the name of protecting our energy security area. the rand report or, or to for the u. s. army say on how to weaken and extend russia and again, in terms of energy, it said the 1st step was to stop nor stream to, you know, he had the pompei you. i said, we'll do everything we can to stop it. i a desultory a new think and all it is all oh, all open source. yeah. open source in that newland as well said at the, you know, we will find the way of stopping this is, you know, tom cook news to word, we're gonna kill north stream to let it rust beneath the baltic. and of course this

is what's biden us. well said he was very opened in a standing next to the german chancellor saying if russia goes into your cranial will stop it. and no matter what and, and how are you going to do this? the journalist southwell trust us, we can do it to so it's, is it, it's a, you know, this a mountain of evidence there that they wanted to do it. and after it was blown up, you had, you know, 1st of all, the polish, for a previous foreign minister at alex who is the quotas case, or i think thank you you a say in just remove any doubt to posted a picture of the exploded pipeline. and then you had the little, anthony blink, and coming alex and me this thing, this is a tremendous honor. unity now maybe we can finally replace the russian energy and with american. and again, that only recently, victoria hulu came out once again that i'm trying to cover her back. she made it very clear that she and the united states administration were very gratified that nordstrom now was uncle metal at the bottom of the sea. so, you know, it's also open to base or, or

a trial you would have some very strong evidence say that perhaps you didn't even mention the details of the marshes article you gave all the open source here and then we have his article kind of connect. so let me go to mark martin here in front of me. it's kind of like an inverted o j. simpson case. ok oj was let off. ok fine. he didn't kill his ex wife and her boyfriend. then who did? i mean, this is the us and its allies will dismisses the medium. we'll talk about it. so if it's what see my hearse? probably one of the greatest living journalists of our time. if he's roman was who did do it, there is no interest in that either. mark just goes completely against the narrative which has been fed to the job this year. nobody wants to go there. nobody wants to deal in doing this is, and i don't know about the reference to oj, i'm worried sima was just going to end up driving across america. i'm on live tv with people chase again because i think he's, he's heading towards

a massive character assassination. i can't imagine wester's already. yeah, it's already started. it's already started. you know, don't be surprised if they find child is left already fiddle. this taxes are repeat up an ex wife or, or is enrolled in criminal gangs or anything that's possible. but the story isn't epic. peace, investor journalism, it really stunning him as well in his college, in the as just every paragraph is endorsed as various lives, but so it just throws up so many extraordinary questions. extraordinary. as a journalist has been covering a lot of these countries that are really victims of the us intervention, how oil oil pipelines just keeps on coming up again and again. and again. when you look at using sure, it's something to do with try to find for you over a cheap oil and is nearly always to do with pipelines even have guns done was actually a story about george w bush, george. so it was senior trying to nail huge energy deal for

a telephone company trying to build a pipeline right across the country and negotiating with each other in the late ninety's. it was all about oil and pipelines. and again, it's the same story with, with the ukraine. what, what this proves, the incredible piece of journals improves beyond any doubt is the americans, the by the ministration light and light and light. and everything that we see here from mainstream media is just a huge light. and it was the you talked about the reference to, to our there was a mystery. this was a new york times. this wasn't some tabloid, you haven't heard of it. you could, it wasn't new york times, the biggest jose elfaire an imprint today. so you know, android, as even today, i just refer to single article as a blog. i mean, think about that. he's rattle the establishment. you know, with this page, but he rattled them, you know, you've been rattling them since the me line massacre. ok. yes. he didn't publish his his work on some stack because he's been so discriminated against because he

annoys the be. it says, well, calling you to blog again. glenn, you're in norway. norway is implicated in his investigation. here was no, we didn't media and the government here. oh, so one of the newspapers only had one word in the title, which is nonsense. but it's kind of a, well, it is very dismissive and i think it's unfortunate because i think for media they, they really don't ask 2 questions. is this true? that's what they have to pursue. and they said of public interest. now, the truth aspect in that would require them to do some journalism and follow up on this leads and of course of a public interest. but who are the journalist no longer asked status question? rather, if you look in the reporting, the only question i seem to ask is, will this information assist nato or russia? and if it's enough that favoring the russian narrative, then suddenly it goes on the memory hold. and it's their unfortunate because i

think a lot of this journalist, they think they're doing us a favor by skewing all the reporting. but at the end of the day, you know, the lose people losing trust in me then also to taking us down the very dangerous path, you know, to source of possible nuclear war. so i don't think they, they thought this a morales through and so, so again, a lot of them are the comments were when they were people make arguments which, you know, or does matter how much fact the route in it. people assess, well, doesn't lean towards favoring russia or nato if it seems to russia, then they always go after the person that don't addressed argument. so seymour hersh, you know, how is the reporting media now, while he's a former investigative journalist, apparently not a whore, he's old. he might be senile. he's a kiss of being put in nist. and of course, the posting this in a blog and because he's seen over the hill, that is one of the most respected investigative journalists of our time. not only in revealing this massacre of me line vietnam in the sixty's,

but also the upgrade of prison scandal into 2000 the shirley. he deserves his case. the serfs to be heard and if egg and maybe he's wrong, maybe over the hill. but this, the weakness of the paper i would say was that is based on, on the, on the source which can be confirmed. on the other hand, the strength is smarter. pointed out a huge amount of details. you know, this is a lot to follow up and we don't have to take her word as gospel, but surely there's a look journalist should get all this information a lot too much on to let's see where this goes. but again, if it goes towards the point we're seeing a weakening, the nato and washing narrative, we don't want to follow this path. and again, it's, yeah, i think it's a disgrace in but martin, i'm glad that we be in the element of details brought up when i read it. i just thought this was, i mean, if this is

a fake story and he invested in norman's method, i'm an expert in making up those details there. but with martin, when it's important to understand, i think that again, we went over the open source information here. then we have this investigative journalism and they, they, they fall into each other just perfectly mean that i think both the view and our viewers were, they were reading the article, realized, oh, okay, that's it. that piece fits there. that makes sense because we knew this in advance . i mean, there's no refuting of facts. there's just refuting of him. yeah, it's become, will become intense, personalized it will be able about him. but i just, i just some googling before one and i noticed that the story is being picked up quite a lot around the world. so in this situation, at a certain point, the american journalists are almost obliged to actually follow up and actually report reported. and i think this will probably happen in the next couple of weeks . folks are using it as a way of adjusting the,

by the ministration that's supposed to be expected. i take, which i would take blends point to talk about the source. i think it was more than one source if i remember looking at again. but i think there were a couple of sources that is a gentleness, you know, we, we tend to look at the tiny details. and we notice that there is a certain resonance. and the article of bitterness from these sources who tend to seem to be on blood and science. and you know, there is a real intelligence community takes nothing more than a president who is sloppy and indiscreet with operations that are on undergoing are about to undergo. and as a few sideswiped, it was quite shocked about the statements by and made about the under secretary statements as well. you know, it was all very indiscreet. so i think that's important. but for me, their article really does throw up some incredibly important questions, isn't germany then just american? you know, that's exactly what i want to ask both of you have a glen. i mean,

i don't read your when i tell, you know, i can just jump into the russian and the german media sphere. but from what i can gather, it's been a very muted reaction by them. i mean, and they're the biggest victims. and all of this really this after sitting, suck it up when yeah, well they're taking another one on the chin. i guess i'm not saying i read golf. my german is a high school level, so i don't abraham too much about it. but, you know, from reading spiegel and all that put it into for a new section, is there pipeline, by the way. and it kind of referred to, you know, russian allegations and, you know, under their own del, too much into the, to the specific accusations. but, but again, it's a, it's, i think shorts is becoming a bit humiliated casino. you have this pipeline and everyone knows that the united states, at least has been behind this. like really it, how much more evidence do we need from? it's a officials but also it's a continuation of this tank issue where obviously us pressured them into sending the lead part tanks and the u. s. not going to save this, and abrams probably,

or at least not for another year or so, but i'm guessing it was only to pressure them so they kind of know, notice how they're being manipulated and pressured, and a lot of german officials are getting quite a thought hold that thought we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on some real new st. ah, for ah, lisa canter, russian state full narrative. i've stayed as i phone and the most landscape div us . mm hm. and i know that for me it within the 55 would be okay, so mine is 25 and speaking with we

will ban in the european union, the kremlin media machine, the state aunt, rush up to date, and school ortiz spoke neck, given our video agency roughly all band on youtube and pinterest with me. ah, the west, ah, in convincing much of the rest of the world on that particular point around you, craig and, and russia's actions in ukraine. i think one of the problems to the west is the rest of the world looks at this and says, why are you applying one standard in this conflict? and you're ignoring those standards in all the places i'm adding. palestine is very

high up there on the list of examples old way you do not apply the say stand ah ah, welcome back. are all things are considered peter? well, this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news the, the well, let's go back to martin america. let me in looking at the reaction to it or non reaction to this story. if there's a certain service that i get from the official american legacy media, is that yeah, well, so what we can do, it may be, this kind of impunity is and plus the,

they watching the germans particularly shows being humiliated. they that mission accomplished. okay. i mean, they are doing everything. glenn said he took another one on the cheek. i mean, is there any, i don't know how many takes he has, keeps getting hit over and over and over again. so, i mean, you know, the fact that the germans are being humiliated again, and it tells people to get in line, you know, where the unity has lots of bar syndrome. go ahead. again, i wonder how much immunization shoes can tell. you also wonder what actually happened in the white house, 3 weeks before nuclear war started when, when shoot visited by jan was a deal struck then by to say, look, you know, we're going to go ahead and blow up anyway, so you might as well get on board, what did he, she shows, did he, did he suggest that it was an option we might lately to look at? i mean, the interesting thing is the time life, you know, and, and, and hersch is,

is really laid out briefly. and it makes the point, again, again, again, which is going to be very hard for us, gentleness to completely ignore this, you know, by them basically prepared himself or spread the administration from almost they want momus january, 2021 to blow these pipes to charlie's pipelines, you know, was always considered, reflect, that was considered a stretch to emerge because that bill is to throw his weight around in europe. the americans are always intimidated and vexed by germany as dependency on cheap gas from russia. so the thinking was, we can't get them on board to actually go ahead with the a war in ukraine. we need to do something which actually pushes the way, relying so they have 2 choices. i think it's actually amazing. i mean, what is this, what are we actually talking about in terms of national law? we're talking about international terrorism, an active international terrorism. i think by the grace of god, the fact that 49 percent of the company which owns those pipelines,

what's your opinion? if it was 100 percent, russia, we could be looking at a world war situation and this is not an exaggeration. prudence been remarkably held back and restrained over this, but it tells me i want to address this to both of you. okay, well civilian infrastructure in international waters or in the air space is fair game. no game. so what we expect, would it be realistic? would it be reasonable to assume some sort of response from the russians? well i, i absolutely think so, and i think there's always reciprocity, but it's a symmetrical be a time and place of their choosing here. glen, in the broader scheme of things here. there are always people talking about there needs to be a ceasefire. that needs to be negotiated, end of this, but if you have an administration which, you know, the, the, the, the investigative integrity, the seem,

or her springs to this here. mean the one of the russian supposed to say meaning if you deny something that is patently obvious, all of the agree, minute process, all the things you've been depleted as every step of the way. but now you're going to be honest with us. it doesn't work that way. no, but it might have been with us matter cause i think it it, it says it doesn't happen because the de media again doesn't mention it. don't really report on that. a we have the wisdom, instrumental 7 years of sabotaging it's very openly the u. s. and u. k. especially and, and also never in reporting even when soleski was saying we're not gonna follow this anymore. there are the media still reports that while rush us to one not implementing it in the end of the texas. they're black and white so. so nonsense. and even now, after rush and they did, you have it on the israeli prime minister, going out for me for mr. bennett is actually saying, listen, if the ukrainians wanted to say the peace agreement that the russians wanted it,

this is early march or we, we, we could have done it. but the, the west said no, especially u. s. and you k, they wanted to continue this to smash potent, that if for some opportune to fight approx a war against them so you know, no matter what does matter what the ukrainians wanted. that's, that's why they put the block down. then they, they, sir ellis, i pushed out as negotiated. the turks take over the turkish foreign minister says the same thing that we were close a deal both sides wanted it. and then the west stepped in. the said no, we want to fight rashana with this ukranian so so no matter what the ukrainians want woke will continue. then the heels of this reports by the she on a hill and her colleague in, in a foreign affairs. this are people who are talking to intelligence in network and us and also democratic care in not leaders, but they are high up in the democratic party. they also wrote to foreign affairs. yeah. they were close to an agreement. and what russia most important for it wanted only for ukraine to commit the self, not to taking more nato and us weapons on the russian borders desolate russia

wanted ukraine wanted, it's territory back. so there were very close to deal. and then what's happened, the americans than them and the british steps in and offer all the weapons in the world if, if they fastened older men to the front, that's what mitch mcconnell said as well, is all nice and well. and down to this old idea of, you know, how brave ukrainians are, but this is ultimately about american interest. we have to knock out the rush. that's our goal. lindsa green saying the same thing. this is a great deal for us to. we've promised lensky would provide all the weapons in the world, and he just has to send all his men the fight to the last man. that's his word, fight down to the last ukrainian. and then all of this goes under the umbrella of we want to help them, like we have screwed over the ukrainians from day one. i'll just for the language, but we did this and then we call it helping a funny, so cynical and it's disgusting. it's horrible. well, you know, martin, i mean future historian, so maybe explain to his wife the lindsey, getting

a saying yeah, will sacrifice our people. that's really truly extorted. glen. this is absent from the media. look, you know, you have the israel, the premise or sitting there thing if word by word is no denial afterwards and the media sees it and if it is a true, yes. is it the interest of the public? yes. will publish at no cost to strengthen the russian arthur, so it disappears. and that's what i mean. the reality no longer really matters if you, if you don't want to report on anything. and so it's, it's, it's a 3rd situation. and it's very interesting. and when you get, again, you know, this propaganda machine, you know, protecting ukraine sovereignty, while the u. s. has no interest in protecting its own southern border. but that's another topic for the program. but i mean, you know, talking about, you know, ukraine's international standing an existence here. but what the destruction of the pipelines is basically telling germany you have no sovereignty,

in any sense of the word, we will determine your interests. okay. and we will act upon them, particularly when they're not in your interest mark. yeah, i'm going to go and point the thing is actually true. you know that everything is, well, the evidence that you need to look for is already there already on the net or sort of been recorded is youtube. it's there for people to see. and the journalist a just choosing not to say it wasn't just the storks in march, which, you know, seem to have gone to the 11th hour, where both sides could agree which was covered by the americans and british. it was actually worse than that. if you look at the timeline and go back to biden's and alteration just before i think in december, 2020, the russians are correct me if i'm wrong, send the document to the americans, which basically set out what they would like america or native to do which is take this concept, this idea, this notion that ukraine could be a new nature member off the table. that's all we have to do those human and we look

at it now. it doesn't seem like a big deal now because actually it's already off the table. so that gives you an idea of just how simple whoa is how life that the author was. clearly, this administration from the very, very beginning the ukraine war and it's so it's on my even goes far to say is that they actually plan to, i mean, when you know something is about to happen and you sit back and prepare yourself for it. so that you profit on every level and that's what really biden's don't. you know, he's not this idea in so long grass. it's interesting to me, if i can remember i'm using my own words. this program is it? yes, this was a trap in the russians fell for it. okay. no other choice, however, i would say glen then, but by setting this trap, nato is set a trap for itself because everything it martin is right. this is very well planned out. remember the same players were in the, and the obama administration, they just to go for here break. and then as soon as they got back into power,

they went right back with the interest them. and ukraine was one of them here. but you know, the, the, the assumption that the rest of the economy would collapse to be an uprising me. that was all part of it too. ok. that didn't happen. and i think that's the quandary that they find themselves in here. and what, what is it explicable for me? and again, i want to go back to the zelinski and volunteering their own people. ok. you know, for the us, you know, empty their storage, you know, stocks and all that. that's all nice and fine print money until the cows come home . but giving up your own people and it's truly extraordinary. go ahead land. no, it is dreadful. and i had to sir, quickly wanna add something on the german aspect. i'm in meet. imagine being a germ politician or journalist. now, you know, it does no evidence that russia blew up its own pipeline. they never made incense, and also they admitted their so evidence. and yet you have to refer to russian playbook or some propaganda. wild americans, top official mothers, atlantic sending a celebrate thing to the structure of the pipeline. you have to sit there and

pretend it. no, no, it's just propaganda thrush. it must be a horrible situation to be in and, and in the can't, you know, report on facts either. so, but no, i agree that stockholm syndrome, i mean they're, they're, they're, they're really capture, they, they did their, the politicians are captured, the media is captured. everybody knows the true. anyone is interested in the story, can figure it out pretty easily. we. yeah, i'm, i'm not a brain surgeon, but i mean all, everything that was laid out made sense to me. and i said from, you know, it's obviously who did it because who benefit from it that i can ask ahead. well, wasn't, was been very open and, you know, for past due a 1020 years about a subjective of strike to sever the russian economy from the european, especially the russian from the german. because this is something you know, made up of the undermined america's role. and i think they with through sanctions and destruction, this pipeline to be quite successful at it. but the problem is, are you with us restored? is hedge a monic role? it's blocked discipline, if you will, on in europe. know that we were all now bending to washington,

but that of the problem of this whole thing was the world is no longer western centric to suit all parts of the rest of the world. so in russia, sending us energy in a, not even to its, its allies, ohio oppose america. but even india, they were non existent, oil supplies to india only a year ago. now they're the biggest supplier of crude oil to india, 20 percent or something it is, is crazy. and now of course, how are you going to wrestle india away from russian? now they're getting closer and closer. it might be problematic to put it pushed indians against china because the interests of china in india alone has changed so much. now i think yes, the use restore had them on in europe, but they have growing multiplier than the rest of the roof. and that is the topic for another program. ok would run out of time. your fascinating discussion gentlemen, i think my guess and i'll slow ended marrakech. i want to thank our viewers for watching us here. marquee scene, next time, remember, ah,

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ah hello, welcome to wealth apart was considered the world's most davis of these railey palestinian conflict has long been overshadowed by many other hot wars, but it's still continuous influencing geo politics in barely perceptible. yes. fundamental waste is a fair resolution even possible at this point. and can these really palestinian stalemate or for any cars? one inside with the war in ukraine. want to discuss that i'm now joined from long done by daniel lee, b, a former israeli piece negotiator and president of the use middle east project. this is really be great to talk to you. thank you very much for your time. thank

you. i've done a good to be with you. now let me start with that and use your subject. daddy's israel's old new prime minister benjamin netanyahu expressing his willingness and readiness to mediate to conflict in the ukraine. if both sides agree to that. um, do you think israel or this is really government in particular have a solid piece making credentials or potential for that matter, but it's an interesting way of approaching the question on a i don't think it's prime minister netanyahu is credentials, is a peacemaker. of would possibly stand him in good stead to play a role in the ukraine crisis. he prime minister not. and you may well disagree with me and say, look, i've done amazing things between israel and certain gulf and the arab states with the so called abraham records. but these were very much stitched together by the united.