on the us invasion graham anniversary. ah, blue a protest in the streets of iran on the name of women's rights. i'm guy know hughes, and on this episode, at 360 view, we're going to look at what is driving the protest and what effect outside countries are having. let's get started with the death of an iranian women in police. custody has now had

a ripple effect leading to more violence. threatening the crucial oil industry is barking protest across the globe. our international course mart roxy to florida is here to tell us how it all started. scotty, these all begun. when on the run in woman massa armine was arrested for improperly wearing a huge up just face after being taken into custody. she died. her family says there were bruce, as all over her body suggests, and she had been beaten to death. however, police are claiming a me need died of a heart attack. this led to under robson of protest throughout the country. workers for iran, oil and natural gas production began processing over the death of the 22 year old woman. that demonstration mark the 1st time. don't rest her on the death of masa a meaning threatened the crucial industry. on september 24th. iranian state

television suggested at least 41 people have been killed in process for. i mean, however, iran government has not given an update. 40 days after her death house and we're taking process seam, i've heard great site celebrations on the 40th they morning. that's a cultural significance for iranian they begun. saudi heard this then will be the graveyard of faces and woman. life freedom process stores their claim. officers fire at least 5 rounds into the crowd dispensing theory guy this led to a need through national movement, for example, process in germany in france, made me all over london, england. i'm on the streets up to on to canada. and in the united states, during the marine corps marathon in washington, d. c. people began processing that death and police reaction to massa. i mean is

there, now there's a turban gain going to run. iran were school age. children are taking videos up themselves wrong in the run, nothing turbans of men industry as a way to protest. i mean, is this one human rights group in iran has s the made it 185 people have been killed in iran during the protest? joining us now for more on this is professor at the university of toronto mohammed muradi. welcome, dr. mirandi, your doctor in your view, were the protest in iran concerning the tragic death of a young woman entirely artificial or do they hit on from discontent within iranian society? apart from western attempts to stoke regime change. first, we have to remember that the united states hasn't, has been imposing maximum pressure sanctions on ordinary iranians for years. and

they've been doing this to create misery and suffering so that people rise up in desperation. and excuse has been, the iranian is one of their program and the united states and europe is constantly been saying that there is an imminent threat because of iran's nuclear program. but the last few months, negotiations have stopped and no one in the west is screaming or yelling about the dangers of iranian the running nuclear program. what does that tell you? is that their priorities that shifted there really wasn't a threat. they were trying to focus on the want, put pressure on iran, but now they claim that china, so their focus is elsewhere. so they were lying all along. but in any case, the peaceful nuclear program in a run wasn't excused to put pressure on it. because the united states dislikes the sonic republic of iraq because it's independent now in the case of this young woman

died. the important thing is that when use came out and she passed, it was western persian language, media base and london. and in the united states that spread the news that she was pattern and tortured to death. and even i thought that there must have been some sort of police brutality involved that she died because they were screaming and yelling about it, day and night. then the footage comes out and it shows her leaving a police fan. she's not hancock, she does shows no sign of pain. she goes into a hall, sit there after a while, talks to someone and then suddenly collapses. there is no sign of any entreaty. she's not holding her head or anything like that. then there's the autopsy and 19 barre senior physicians check all her documents,

they check the body and they say that she was never physically harmed. you know, it's really interesting because the parallels between what you just described as the timeline of events in iraq almost mimic the event time mind of the george ford situation, which happened here in the usa. what was the iranian people actually told about the racial protest in the united states? and by what main media outlet use in iran was largely, i think, influenced by, ironically by cnn. and probably the new york times more than anyone else. and this is one of the unfortunate things in general that the global south has to really view it. and that is that a lot of our information, not only about the west, but about other parts of the global south come from mansion western sources. and of course, therefore, our understanding of, let's say brazil,

my understanding and tara, of brazil, when it's influenced by western narratives. then it's based upon an understanding that the, that western needs want to lee you believed whether it's objective or not. so whether it's us internal politics, i think disproportionately american media, mainstream america, media, influential in iran. and even when it's not the united states, when it's other parts of the global south western media, an influence that is this proportionate, you know, i have learned that wherever there is a fire, a small spark or smoke has to exist in the beginning. therefore, what do you think is the average iranian woman's view of the public morality loss? that's a very difficult question answer because the wrong kind of a population of roughly 85000000. without it out

there, 40000000000 points of view, among iranian women. and another 40 some years while i'm writing mess according to polls that are regularly count, carried out in iran. i, western institutions and run in institutions. overwhelmingly, iranian women believe in the job because their muslim, smaller majority believe that there must be some sort of dress code for public when how tim will enforce it and how far it should go is something that is debated. and then there is a minority, and i don't recall how large that minority is. that believes that there shouldn't be any real strict enforcement of at their desk. but again,

that is subjective what, what is meant. but the point that is important is that you run is in iran the use towards women. and the notion of commodification and objectification here are different and the belief not that having a more conservative dress code in iran is to control women. right? that it is to prevent them from being objectified and commodified. now someone may severely do disagree with that perspective. but the point is that the fact is that women in iran or taxi drivers, their bus drivers, their pilots, helicopter pilots, their university professors,

the empties and parliament. one of my colleagues that the sister university of ron university of several medical sciences for medical sciences. she was the minister of health under for, for 4 years, if i'm not mistaken. administrative health is the 2nd largest government ministry in the country. probably the most complex because it has medical education university professor students and has health care. it has the hospital network across the country, under warranties for to be complex and complicated ministry. it was a woman. so the idea that somehow iran women like it so the radio or taken on or, or somewhere else like that is it is, is complete. nonsense is iran, some utopia for women? no, i know you. utopia is from iran is not the abnormal

horrific society that the americans, the american government and american needs, or european at least was like, or people. so how fair is it to compare the past history of iran all to the present under the shop? there was virtually no freedom and it was the shores of control and his family. and he had very negative news towards women. yes, a very famous interview where he's actually sitting beside his 3rd wife and dismissing women. i think her famous american interviewer women, a woman interviewer, i don't remember the name, i think one of the 3 major news channels back, sen, cbs, nbc, abc, easy to look it up and back. then the majority of iranian women actually didn't

even go to school after the revolution. we had new versus education, both for women. and right now the majority of university students in iran are women. and in my, i work in 2 different departments. the last 2 people hire in the american space department, but i work or women. i think the last person we hired in the english department, which also worked at it is i think so. but in any case, we have with professors, we have, as i said, my faculty woman and the status of women in iran in society is far higher than what it was during the shop by any measure. but women, ours, they dress more conservatively, some of them probably don't want,

definitely don't want to dress in such way in the public sphere and many accepted. but the regulations are not strictly enforced at all. you see women in the north run for a long time, especially in north carolina who don't headstart, but they still wear long traveling trousers and they're usually more covered european societies. but it is not at all what the image is not at all like what you would think of if you were reading the new york times, the washington post for the white. you fast saying conversation you had. thank you so much, dr. miranda for joining us all the way from tehran? ah! now after the break, we're going to give you another view of the iranian protests,

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a widely published author and communicator on a social, political, and religious topics. welcome, dr. jones. thank you for joining us. thank you for having me. so let's talk about the protest are happening at this present moment. why are they happening? okay, 1st of all, you've got a situation that has been festering for a long time, which is the crisis over the his job in 2009 to see i got involved in a ran and tried to overthrow the government by using women as their main proxy warriors, that situation hasn't changed, the situation didn't get resolved, then the revolution got squelch, it got put down. but the resent within char resentments are, are still there, and they go back all the way to the of the, and or the death of the ayatollah khomeini. in 1989, this is 10 years after the revolution, the revolution effectively ended at that point. ah,

but that with his dad. but the new supreme leader decide to continue it, which was bad enough, but that he made a really bad decision by introducing birth control into the population of iraq. he did this because the birth rate at that point after the revolution was 7 to 8 children. he felt that they couldn't sustain that population. so here to do the birth control and brought about the biggest drop in fertility history in birth control history. wow. this led to a, basically a demographic collapse. and it also led to the disruption that we're seeing right now, the supreme leader apologize, rich in 2010 said it was the biggest mistake he had ever made. and he begged a law for forgiveness. but at this point, the genie was out of the bottle and you would create a he, he had created basic is the revolutionary situation that we have right now was

interesting that you give the history that this is, you know, obviously president biden under the west was also, vice president brock obama. he tried this during the administration now they're trying it again. i do have one of those. there was always this idea that the west, the got along with the iranian girl with the iranian nuclear dealer, came out of the roman ministration. obviously, president trump's administration tore that to pieces that it was out the window. it makes you wonder, does the bite administration actually like this regime? that's an office right now. and if they don't, who do they think would replace it if they are successful over throwing? i was, i with this is the, the playbook began in iran in 1953 the playbook meeting, the c i a's plan for overthrowing governments. throughout the world. it came to be known as color revolution, sax, what it was in 2000, i bought in 1953 the united states over through the most or dag administration and put the shy and into place. so the shaw range for about 29 years. he brought about

a policy, a westernization, that created repugnance among the islamic population, and then the ayatollah came, came in and replaced it with an islamic republic. so the problem here is that iran is a constant pendulum swing between westernization as and where they bring in the shaw to islamic reaction, which is when the ayatollah shows up. so given that history, obviously, the next example is going to be bad. the pendulum will swing back to westernization, and this is what the cia is counting on and they're, they think it's going, they think it's going to work. well, it's interesting because all on top of that is the environment of iran being when them a sanctioned countries and the world did, they've been doing that to kind of trap the pressure on the people on the government. you feel the sanctions effect, the leadership, or the common people more at this stage after so many years of being in existence. they always affect the common people more than than the leadership. but the uh,

the untold story about sanctions is that they are another word for tariffs and terrace. as the united states found out after lay separated from england can be used to protect project manufacturing. so to sanctions, before the iranian people were many ways a blessing in disguise because they promoted the rise of a into industrialization of iran, rather than simply living for a mel oil revenues. was interesting because now you bring it to where we are in the present. once again, this is straight out of the playbook from 2009, using women's rights i say using which there still might be a justification for it to kind of garner this unrest. so what are the main goals of this current protest? what are they hoping to accomplish? this protest went from simply being a protest against a job. in other words, let's up, let's make they're wearing the,

his job voluntary. that's how it started out and then it escalated into basically an attempt to overthrow the government. that's what it is. now they are saying that the islamic republic has to go. we can no longer have in his lomberg republic. that is, i think, part of the contribution that the c i is making here here behind the scenes was the, was a protest get big. they reached a certain point that the, the cia and these people, they're going to go for the whole thing. they're going to overthrow the government that has called wars the draconian reaction on the part of the government they per, they correctly perceive it as an attempt to oversaw the government. and now they're just coming, attacking the people gunning the people down in the streets in a way that is going to be counter productive. what i find to be interesting is their job as a part of the religious aspect of their faith, of the muslim play. some go with it somewhat don't, it's not necessarily a government mandate is in a government that just says you, you have to wear and you don't. they said they're taking

a religious issue and using it to try to cause change within the government. can that actually happen, though, with how the current government is in the leadership control? are they going to have give any on this issue? they cannot. they cannot because it's been weaponized into an attack on the government. so the government is backed into a corner and out they cannot back down or they have job issue it because it's an existential issue. right now it's not just clothing, it's an existential issue about the future of the islamic republic. so my feeling is that at a moment of crisis like this, the only solution is for the ayatollah that for the supreme leader to abdicate, it's gotta be something that radical. i think that they should bring president oc medina. job back into power. he's a strong leader, he's a persian nationalist. he resonates with the entire spectrum of persian to islamic . and he should come in and say, ok,

the revolution is over. it should have ended and 80 died. it's over now. we're going to have a new constitution. we're going to have a new republic, but we are going to save the persian people from this cia attack that is absolutely non negotiable. we will not allow the cia to take over our government and destroy our culture, which is what their intent is. we're going to take control of our own destiny and we're going to do it step by step away into a new republic, a new era which will not be in islam of republic. and did he keep mentioning, obviously this is from the outside, the ca, what i fell 54 as do you think the women that are in the streets and we are seeing obviously some clashes that are happening, some of them not ending so well that in their grass roots, do they, do you think that these women realize that they potentially could be just basically being tools for a bigger picture that has nothing to do with women's rights? the place of women in iranian society?

yes, look, we're, if you're talking about the women who are taking off the job, that's all the one segment of the population. there is a large segment of the population who are still wearing the job there approached i think that doesn't make the news over here. ok there, protesting, i think from my conversations with the rainy, as i know, they want to preserve the independence of iran. they don't want that. they're, they're unhappy with both sides. they understand that they're being faced with a choice of either anarchy or tyranny. and they're both bad choices. i have a friend who just told me says there's a saying in varsity. now i hope it's not too crude for. i have to tell it what it is, but he says, i've got a saw my ass and it hurts. going in and it's kurt coming out. that's the, that's the dilemma that these people are faced with right now. they're constantly being confronted by 2 equally repugnant alternatives. and they're having difficulty finding the mean, the middle ground that would allow the unification of the country. well,

it's very interesting on that side of it and ultimately i, it, this isn't going to be anything that in any time soon, you know, i just have to, you know, one last question before we go. and my produce was wonderful. she was kind of commenting on your interview as you are giving it a. do you think that in the end, the turbans right now have been the new way for the men to be able to actually act out for the men to kind of get involved in this. and you've got kids doing it, but they're, you know, like i said, it is all ages, teenagers, kids, all of them. do you think that's going to have an effect with of this idea of now knocking off people's turbans at the religious sector as they're walking down the street just out in public? that's an expansion. that's an escalation of the revolutionary movement. it shows that the contempt that they have for the leadership. it shows also that there's contempt for the religious authority. there were local religious authority. the religious leaders have overplay their hand. ok,

they've gotten to involved in the political process. the classic example was when they prohibited oc medina, job for running for president. they never should have done that. he is a man of the people he might have solve this problem before it got started. so that turbo, again, it's exactly you're right. it's exactly the same thing is taking off the job, but it's a much more aggressive gesture, obviously, because you're knocking it off of someone else's head. and it's only going to harden the islamic side. the, the mullers are going to become now even more determined to resist. when what should happen is that bo shy should now take a deep breath and come together. and let's have a conversation about the future of iran, where everyone can take part. thank you so much for joining us. cafe as you're inside author and commentator dr. e. michael jones. thank you. thank you. ron. mm

times have changed for various demographics in many societies. and those changes don't often come sadly without chaos and to see, however, you're naive if you don't think of the geo politics of the west are not playing a role. as the timing of these protests happening as new allies are being drawn by the west is not just a coincidence. a different religions and cultures have their own ideologies. and it is best when they are addressed within their own circles. as observations from the outside can often be receiving now on the surface, their calls for peace, this would only be accomplished with either the religious regulations were made subjective or there was a regime change. both would have long term effects to a very established body and what happens next would be predictable. as a major changes either to the government or the religion would be guaranteed to follow. you know, our protestors against the regime called the world to show how much it loves women and values freedom. the road has shown time and time again. their actions don't

always match the conviction of their words. and when it becomes inconvenient or at the conflict, no longer present opportunities. and at that time it's usually does on the ground. so are left all alone. i'm sky know hughes and thank you for watching this addition of 360 view. until next time. ah, i a with water is thrown in the old order, but when the snow falls about scheduling, this comes with our dealers. we sprung from dijani's got on them to do it in b. c. dish and you could give away in the pals teacher skills other than

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