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crane, the smaller ukraine becomes all the wes money. sanctions and military aid appear to change nothing. this is why the situation is now so very good. ah, protest from the streets of iran on the name of women's rights. i'm scott hughes. and on, at this episode, at $360.00 view, we're going to look at what is driving to protest and what effect outside countries are having. let's get started. ah, the death of an iranian women in police custody has now had a ripple effect leading to more violence, threatening the crucial oil industry, and sparky protest across the globe. our international course, martina solano, is here to tell us how it all started. scotty,
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these all begun. when on the run, a woman massa armine, was arrested for improperly wearing a huge up just face after being taken into custody. she died. her family says there were ruth, this all over her body suggests and she had been beaten to death. however, police are claiming, i mean, he died of a heart attack. this led to under robson of protest throughout the country. workers for iran, oil and natural gas production began processing over the death of the 22 year old woman. the demonstrations mark the 1st time down rest are on the death of masa. i mean, he threatened the crucial industry on september 24th. iranian state television suggested at least 41 people have been killed in process for me. however, iran government has not given an update. 40 days after her death houses were taking
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process theme as her great site celebrations under 40 a may of morning. as a cultural significance for iranian, they begun saudi heard this then will be the graveyard of faces and woman life freedom. protestors their claim officers fire at least 5 rounds into the crowd dispensing tear gas. this lead to a need through national movement, for example, process in germany in france. mamie all over london, england. i'm on the streets up to on to canada. and in the united states during the marine corps marathon in washington, d. c. people began protesting that death police reaction to massa, i mean, is there, now, there is a turban gain going to run. iran were school age. children are taking videos of themselves wrong in iran. nothing turbans of main industries as
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a way to protest. i mean this, this one human rights group in iran has estimated 185 people have been killed in iran during the protest. joining us now for more on this is professor at the university, ron mohammed muradi. welcome, dr. mirandi, your doctor and your view were the protest in iran concerning the tragic death of a young woman entirely artificial, or do they hit on some discontent within iranian society? apart from western attempts to stoke regime change, we have to remember that the united states hasn't, has been imposing maximum pressure sanctions on ordinary iranians for years. and they've been doing this to create misery and suffering so that people rise up in desperation. and excuse has been the iranian people make their program and the
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united states and europe is a constant. we've been saying that there's an imminent threat because of the runs nuclear program. but the last few months, negotiations have stopped and no one in the west is screaming or yelling about the dangers of iranian iranian nuclear program. what does that tell you? it means that their priority shifted. there really wasn't a threat. they were trying to focus on iran, put pressure on iran, but now they claimed as china, so their focus elsewhere. so they were lying all along. but in any case, the piece on their program any ron was an excuse to put pressure on it. because the united states dislikes the final public iran because it's independent now in the case of this young woman died, the important thing is that when use came out and she passed, it was western persian language media based in london. and in the united states
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that spread the news that she was battered and tortured to death. and even i thought that there must have been some sort of police brutality and ball that she died because they were screaming and yelling about it, day and night. then the footage comes out and it shows her leaving a police fan. she's not hancock, she just shows no sign of pain. she goes into a hall, sit there after a while, talks to someone and then suddenly collapses. there is no sign of any entreaty. she's not holding her head or anything like that. then there's the autopsy and 19 very senior physicians check all her documents, they checked the body and they say that she was never physically harmed. you know, it's really interesting because the parallels between what you just described as the timeline of events in iraq almost mimic the event time mind of the george ford
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situation, which happened here in the usa. what was the iranian people actually told about the racial protest in the united states? and by what main media outlet use in iran was largely, i think, influenced by, ironically by cnn. and probably the new york times more than anyone else. and this is one of the unfortunate things in general that the global south has to really view it. and that is that a lot of our information, not only about the west, but about other parts of the global sounds come from mansion, western sources. and of course, therefore, our understanding of, let's say brazil, my understanding and tara, of brazil, when it's influenced by western narratives. then it's based upon an understanding that the, that western needs want to lee you believed whether it's objective or not.
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so whether it's us internal politics, i think disproportionately american media, mainstream america, media, influential in iran. and even when it's not the united states, when it's other parts of the global south western media, that's an influence that is this proportionate you know, i have learned that wherever there is a fire, a small spark or smoke has to exist in the beginning. therefore, what do you think is the average iranian woman's view of the public morality loss? that's a very difficult question to answer because iran has a population of roughly 85000000. without it out there, 40000000 points of view, among iranian women. and another 40 son is marlin minutes,
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according to polls are regularly count carried out in iran, y western institutions and run in institutions. overwhelmingly, iranian women believe in the head job because their muslim, smaller majority believe that there must be some sort of dress code for public when how to enforce it. and how far it should go is something that is debated. and then there is a minority, and i don't recall how large that minority is. that believes that there shouldn't be any real strict enforcement of a dress code. but again, that is subject to what, what is meant. but the point that is important is that iran is in iran, the use towards women. and the notion of commodification and
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objectification here are different and the believe not that having a more conservative dress code in iran is to control women. right? that it is to prevent them from being objectified and commodified. now someone may severely do disagree with that perspective. but the point is that the fact is that women in iran or taxi drivers, their bus drivers, their pilots, helicopter pilots, their university professors, the empties and parliament. one of my colleagues, the university of ron university of ron medical sciences for medical sciences.
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she was the minister come under for 4 years if i'm not mistaken. diminished your health is the 2nd largest government ministry in the country. probably the most complex because it has medical education university professor students and has health care and has the hospital network across the country under warranty. so it's a very complex and complicated ministry. it was a woman. so the idea that somehow in iran, women don't like it. so the radio or taken on or, or somewhere else is, is complete. nonsense. is iran some utopia for women? no. know, you know, he knew tokyo's from in iran is not the abnormal or i think society that the american american government and american needs or european at least was mike or people. so how fair is it to compare the past history of iran all to the
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present under the shop? there was virtually no freedom and it was a shock or is in control and his family. and he had very negative news towards women. yes, a very famous interview where he's actually sitting beside his 3rd wife and dismissing women, i think, with a famous american interviewer, women, a woman interviewer. i don't remember the name, i think one of the 3 major news channels back sen. cs advocate, dc. easy to look it up and back then the majority of iranian women actually didn't even go to school after the revolution. we had the reversal education, both women and. 5 right now the majority of university students in iran are women. and in my,
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i work in 2 different departments. the last 2 people hire in the american space department. but i work or women. i think the last person we hired in the english department, which also were terrorism. i think so, but in any case we have with professors we had because i said, dina, i called the woman and the status of women in society is far higher than what it was during the shop or any measure. but women are they dress more conservatively, some of them probably don't want. definitely don't want to dress in such way in the public sphere. it many accepted, but the regulations are not strictly horse at all. you see women in the
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north run for a long time, especially in north carolina. don't worry. but they, so where long charlie trousers and they're usually more coverage than european societies. but it is not at all what the image is not at all like what you would think of if you were reading the new york times, the washington post for the watch. cnn fascinating conversation. what thank you so much dr. mirandi for joining us all the way from terrace. now, after the break, we're going to give you another view of the iranian protests. and what the end result could be. stay tuned for more. ah, ah
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ah, we're discussing the recent iranian protest. julius, now for more on this topic is e. michael jones. he's a widely published author and communicator on social, political, and religious topics. welcome, dr. jones. thank you for joining us. thank you for having me. so let's talk about the protests that are happening at this present moment. why are they happening? okay, 1st of all, you've got a situation that has been festering for a long time, which is the crisis over the his job in 2009 the see i got involved in a ran and tried to overthrow the government by using women as their main proxy
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warriors, that situation hasn't changed, the situation didn't get resolved, then the revolution got squelch, it got put down. but the resentment in char resentments are, are still there. and they go back all the way to the of the, and, or the death of the ayatollah khomeini. in 1989, this is 10 years after the revolution, the revolution effectively ended at that point, but with his death. but the new supreme leader decide to continue it, which was bad enough. but then he made a really bad decision by introducing birth control into the population of iran. he did this because the birth rate at that point, after the revolution was 7 to 8 children, he felt that they couldn't sustain that population. so here to do birth control and brought about the biggest drop in fertility history, a, in
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a birth control history. well, this led to a, basically a demographic collapse. and it also led to as a disruption that we're seeing right now the, the supreme leader. apologize for this in 2010 said it was the biggest mistake he had ever made and he begged a law for forgiveness. but at this point, the genie was out of the bottle and you would create a he, he, a create a basic is a revolutionary situation that we have right now was interesting that you give the history to that says, you know, obviously the president biden under the west was also vice president brock obama. it tried this during the administration and trying it again. i do have to one of those. there was always this idea that the west got along with the ryan go with the iranian nuclear deal that came out of the volume ministration. obviously, president trump's administration tore that to pieces that it was out the window. it makes you wonder, does the bite administration actually like this regime?
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that's an office right now. and if they don't, who do they think would replace it if they are successful and over throwing? or will they, we, this is the, the playbook began in iran in 1953 the playbook meeting, the c, i age plan for overthrowing governments throughout the world. it came to be known as color revolution. that's what it was in 2000 i but in 1953 the united states over through the most or dag administration and put the shy and into place. so the shaw rained for about 29 years. he brought about a policy, a westernization, that created repugnance among the islamic population, and then the ayatollah came, came in and replaced it with an islam mac republic. so the problem here is that iran is a constant pendulum swing between westernization as and where they bring in the shaw to islamic reaction, which is where the ayatollah shows up. so given that history,
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obviously the next example was going to be by the pendulum will swing back to westernization. and this is what the cia is counting on. and there they think us going, they think is going to work. well, it's interesting because all on top of this is the environment of iran being when them a sanctioned countries and the world did, they've been doing that to kind of trap the pressure on the people on the government. do you feel the sanctions effect the leadership or the common people more at this stage after so many years of be in existence? they always affect the common people more than than the leadership. but the uh, the untold story about sanctions is that they are another word for tariffs and terrace. as the united states found out after lay separated from england can be used to protect project manufacturing. so to sanctions, before the iranian people were many ways a blessing in disguise because it promoted the rise of a into industrialization of iran, rather than simply living from mel oil revenues. was interesting because now you
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bring it to where we are in the present. once again, this is straight out a playbook from 2009, using women's rights i say using which there still might be a justification for it to kind of garner this unrest. so what are the main goals of this current protest? what do they hoping to accomplish? this protest went from simply being a protest against a job. in other words, let's up, let's make they're wearing that his job voluntary. that's how it started out and then escalated into basically an attempt to overthrow the government. that's what it is. now they are saying that the islamic republic has to go. we can no longer havner's lomberg republic. that is, i think part of the contribution that the c i is making here behind the scenes was the, was a protest get big. they reach a certain point that the, the cia and these people, they're going to go for the whole thing. they're going to overthrow the government
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that has called wars the draconian reaction on the part of the government they per, they correctly perceive it as an attempt to overthrow the government. and now they're just coming, attacking the people gunning the people down in the streets in a way that is going to be counter productive. what i find to be interesting as a shot is a part of the religious aspect of their faith, of the muslim play. some go with a somewhat don't, it's not necessarily a government mandate is in a government that just says you, you have to wear and you don't. they said they're taking a religious issue and using it to try to cause change within the government. can that actually happen, though, with how the current government is in the leadership and control? are they going to have to give any on this issue? they cannot. they cannot because it's been weaponized into an attack on the government. so the government is backed into a corner and out they cannot back down or they have job issue it because it's an existential issue. right now it's not just closing,
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it's an existential issue about the future of the islamic republic. so my feeling is that at a moment of crisis like this, the only solution is for the ayatollah that for the supreme leader to abdicate, it's got to be something that radical. i think that they should bring president oc medina. job back into power. he's a strong leader, he's a persian nationalist. he resonates with the entire spectrum of persian to islamic . and he should come in and say, ok, the revolution is over. it should have ended and a died. it's over now. we're going to have a new constitution. we're going to have a new republic, but we are going to save the persian people from this cia attack that is absolutely non negotiable. we will not allow the cia to take over our government and destroy our culture, which is what their intent is. we're going to take control of our own destiny, and we're going to do a step by step away into a new republic, a new era,
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which will not be as lama republic. he keep mentioning, obviously this is from the outside, the ca, what i fell 54 as do you think the women that are in the streets and we are seeing obviously some clashes that are happening, some of them not ending so well that it's their grass roots do they, do you think that these women realize that they potentially could be just basically being tools for a bigger picture that has nothing to do with women's rights? the place of women in iranian society? yes. look, we're, if you're talking about the women who are taking off the job, that's all the one segment of the population. there's a large segment of the population who are still wearing that his job there approached. i think that doesn't make the news over here. okay, there, protesting, i think from my conversations with the iranians, i know they want to preserve the independence of iran. they don't want that. they're, they're unhappy with both sides. they understand that they're being faced with
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a choice of either anarchy or tyranny. and they're both bad choices. i have a friend who just told me says there's a saying and varsity now i hope it's not too crude for. i have to tell it what it is, but it says i've got a saw my ass and it hurts. going in and it's kurtz coming out. that's the, that's the dilemma that these people are faced with right now. they're constantly be confronted by 2 equally repugnant alternatives. and they're having difficulty finding the mean, the middle ground that would allow the unification of the country. well, it's very interesting on that side of it and ultimately it, this isn't going to be anything that in any time soon, you know, i just have to, you know, one last question before we go and my produce was wonderful. she's kind of commenting on your interviews, you're giving it a, do you think that in the end, the turbans right now have been the new way for the men to be able to actually act out for the men to kind of get involved in this. and you've got kids doing it,
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but they're, you know, like i said, it is all ages, teenagers, kids, all of them. do you think that's going to have an effect with this idea of now knocking off people's turbans at the religious sector as they're walking down the street just out in public? that's an expansion. that's an escalation of the revolutionary movement. it shows that the, the contempt that they have for the leadership, it shows also that there's contempt for the religious authority. there were local religious authority. the religious leaders have overplay their hand. ok, they've gotten to involved in the political process. the classic example was when they prohibited oc medina, job for running for president. they never should have done that. he is a man of the people he might have solve this problem before it got started. so that turbo, again, it's exactly right. it's exactly the same thing as taking off the job, but it's a much more aggressive gesture, obviously, because you're knocking it off of someone else's head. and it's only going to
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harden the islamic side. the, the molars are going to become now even more determined to resist. when what should happen is that bo shy should now take a deep breath and come together and let's have a conversation about the future of iran, where everyone can take part. yeah, thank you. so much for joining us. cafe as you're inside author accommodate her. dr . e. michael jones. thank you. thank you from the you know, times have changed for various demographics and many societies. and those changes don't often come sadly without chaos and to see. however, you're naive if you don't think the geo politics of the west are not playing a role as a timing of these protests happening. as do our lives are being drawn by the west is not just a coincidence. a different religions and cultures have their own ideologies. it is bad when they are addressed within their own circles. as observations from the
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outside can often be seeming while on the surface, their calls for peace. this will only be accomplished with either the religious regulations were made subjective or there was a regime change. both would have long term effects to a very established body and what happens next would be unpredictable. as a major changes either to the government or the religion would be guaranteed to follow. no r protestors against the regime called the world to show how much it loves women and values freedom. the road is shown time and time again. their actions don't always match the conviction of their words and when it becomes inconvenient, or if the conflict no longer present opportunities, and at that time it usually does on the ground who are left all alone. i'm sky now hughes and thank you for watching this addition of 360 view until next time. ah, i
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