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very basic causes of death that are you know, easily alleviated and should not even be occurring at all. and if you plead and total failure by the prisons and jails that hold people, and mister price is casey, starved to death over a more than one year period. and it's critical to note that even if he starved to death, even as he wasted away before the eyes of his captors, they were checking on him every day and claiming and filling out reports, saying that he was fine even as he died in front of them. on the european union could ban are t arabic broadcasts on its territory as part of a new package of anti russians sanctions. the restrictive measure may be introduced by the end of february. this decision comes as another blow in a series of crackdowns against russian media agencies. earlier in january are 2 francis bank accounts were frozen, leaving the channel struggling to broadcast. and last year,
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the european union band, the signal and content distribution of european r t channels, as well as the news agency. amid the ukranian crisis, we spoke to a political science professor at cambridge university who says western countries imposed bands as a fear growing influence of the russian media. ellen, dick gustavo sam, the routine union, and they to want to gain total control of the news flow that they need news that they themselves create and distribute so that no one can say anything against their version within their framework of complete control. and they are near colonialism in many hot that's a world conflicts. right now, a campaign in ukraine is been unleashed against the russian federation. russia has had success with the help of channels like r t, which brought costs in many languages, gaining the attention of the world community in many places, specifically in europe. the new ban indicates that the native strategy has failed
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in many areas of the confrontation with moscow undoubtedly had failed on the information france as well. and now it is looking for any ways to impose sanctions on moscow and block it's media. that's right. on the top stories, this is our for more up to the minute updates head over to r t dot com. and don't forget to follow us on odyssey rumble, and thanks for joining us. we'll see you back at the top, the hour. the news . mm. the news ah, hello, i'm manila chan. you are tuned. in the modus operandi this week, nato's expansionist dreams may have
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a rude awakening. after altercations outside of the turkish embassy and sweden are taken as hate speech. so is the 2 for one sweetheart deal between sweden and finland expired? we'll discuss. all right, let's get into the m l. me . sir. kia was an early adopter of nato, joining the block way back in 1952. within the alliance, the turks have the 2nd largest military only behind the united states. as you can see here, their location is one of utmost importance, at least as seen by the us, struggling europe and asia to its east and west russia just a few hours north, the african continent, just a few hours south. it's no wonder turkey, as leadership has had to play there geopolitical cards carefully for decades. and
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no surprise as to why when the nato block was formed by the us, that the americans wanted to keep this country within its orbit tortillas in, sir, like, and con, your air bases had proven keyed some of nato's most recent operations across the region. but in recent months, following russia's military intervention in ukraine to new members sought to join the block, finland, and sweden, their accession would mark the 15th and 16th times. the alliance has expanded since the fall of the soviet union. but membership requires a unanimous vote by existing member states as a now turkey a stand in their way. so joining us to discuss why are key as refusing to go along with the program is geopolitical expert and editor at large and t. r t world. mr. uses aram. now 1st use of can you address for us
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president are the ones exchange with the swedish p, where he said and quote, if you want nato accession you have to extradite these terrorists. we gave them a list of $120.00 people without extra guiding these terrorists. it won't happen and quote, now the swedes have repeatedly said they won't turn over anyone to turkey. or what does that mean then for their nato application? ok, well 1st of all, inside the memorandum of understanding back was signed that the madrid summit last year, nato's important gathering of all 30 member states. there was an agreement between sweden, ed to get that opened the door for the accession process to begin. now as part of that memorandum of understanding, part of it was speaking about extradition, that sweden will take a look at the extradition requests and according to their laws, and according to the evidence provided by to get extra,
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the necessary individuals that were at large to get now, the search president has requested the extradition of $120.00 individuals and it seems that sweden is saying that none of these individuals will be extradited out without giving it a fair look, without even sitting down in swedish courts. looking at the evidence provided by to get telling you that none of these individuals are going to be expedited, it definitely doesn't look like there's any due process being done, looking into the criminal activities of these individuals that your kids alleging that are basically corresponds with the crime of terrorism, so the turkish president wants to see these individuals extradited their individuals that have broken search laws. the church justice system has provided the necessary evidence to sweden. and this is one of the red lines for it
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to give regarding sweden nieto at nieto accession. now do all 120 of these individuals need to be extra aided while in the past and trying to spread it. i said that if some of the conditions in the memorandum of understanding are met. but if sweeting shows good wills and sincerity in the accession process, he said that certain things could be overlooked. so i don't think that we should get hung up on the number 120, but i think we should look closely and observe the sincerity and the effort that sweetens putting into process these request. i think 0 out of 120. that's definitely not sincerity. that stuff is not going to win any type of favor or understanding with entre at all. so if it continues to go like this, there's already been tensions regarding the protests, up the p, k, k u. s e o, and designate their group and sweden, the crime. burning was the icing on the cake. and if none of these terrorists are
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extradited, the ones that turkey is alleging our tires, if none of these are expedited to face, start is just the saw. i don't see any would shape way, shape or form out sweet. i'm going to become a member of nato. alright, so not too much good faith effort shown on their part. so previously the finish and the swedish have said they were to, for one offer, that one would not go to nato without the other. now that turkey has made their requirements clear to the swedes. where does this leave the fins? well, unfortunately, it seems like finland, it's becoming collateral damage in the tensions between sweden and to get out about 2 to 2 months ago, i had an opportunity to interview the swedish prime minister and i had actually ask him the question, do you feel a responsibility to steadily with your own countries, nato progress basically stalling or almost becoming stacked in. and it said that
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the same thing that it's a 2 for one deal that there's tremendous solidarity between both countries. in that day, i've had each other's backs for a very long time, but lazy. we're seeing the swedish nato accession process. habit 0 to swim chance of success at least this year. and we have recently in the finish, foreign minister say that it needs to consider the possibility that sweden might not be approved anytime in the near future by just so this was kind of a signal that the finish for ministry might be entertaining. a solo nato accession did. now. the day after that comment, the turkish turkish president said that i sent a message regarding ben lind that suite him with the shop. now, reading between the lines, this is basically saying that to get with most likely be approving finland's bit,
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that if it came solo to turkish parliament, the turkish war administered the very next day reiterated what the charges president said and said that it's unjust, that finland needs to wait for its own nato membership because up sweden not being able to meet the conditions required in the memorandum of understanding the day after that the finish for minister is original comments about considering sweden not being able to become a native member. i kind of walk that back a little, but it also had a meeting with nato secretary general. you installed some burge, i believe, thursday or friday. or i believe later this week i should say, i don't know the exact day that the finish and sweetest prime ministers are going to be meeting. so that's going to be an important meeting. and as we can see that there is, there is a lot of dialogue behind the scenes. and i think it's going to come to a point where the things really need to consider their own self interest,
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their own national security. and they're probably going to have to walk this road along because it doesn't look like sweden is going to become a nato member. any thanks to now, many in the west are throwing around the idea of kicking turkey out of nato. so let's be clear about a couple of things here. there are only 14 articles in the nato charter. article 10 requires all sitting members to be unanimous in accession of a new member. article 13 states that only the member state can choose to exit the alliance. there is no article to boot a member but, but could this be a double edged sword where they can add a new article to support expulsion of a member state? i mean, does president or one worry about this? first of all, the whole argument, the whole narrative, the whole, say, take 2 out of nato. it's ridiculous, it's a logical,
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it completely goes against the understanding, the essence of what nato is, is not a possibility. and i think seeing that there is no mechanism to kick, to get outside of nato. i think that's the simplest dancer i think there's much better answer. the better explain why it's not a possibility. now, 1st of all, we have to look at what nato is. nato is the security lines. more importantly, it's more about the governance of nato. nato is a consensus decision making. apparatus is governed by consensus decision making. there is never a boat inside of nato because there's always consultations. consensus is reached and any nato resolution. any nato statement represents the collective will of all members, unless everyone agrees, nato does not release a statement. that's why there's no voting inside nato. there is vito's inside nato
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. there needs to be unanimous union and maybe inside of nato, but anything that you hear coming from a nato summit, a needle meeting means that every single member has agreed upon every single word in that statement. now, let's say for example, a mechanism is created to kick a member outside of nato. first of all, a we pack it that mechanism. you would have to had nobody fetal, it, it would have to be a unanimous decision to create a mechanism to kick someone out. and then let's say that mechanism is created, let's say inside of that mechanism is a 2nd mechanism saying, the country that is going to be kicked out doesn't get a vote. that would still require all 29 other states to unanimously agree. i'm taking that other member state out. so as you can see a, the probability, the possibility of all this happening is 0 to none. and if it does happen,
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the essence of nato being a consensus building. a consensus decision making alliance is defeated and nato ceases to be nato. it's now something different. one of the reasons why nato is so attractive as an alliance is that every member feels secure, that it's concerns regarding the decision in nato will become part of that collect that will, nobody can be overlooked when a statement is being made, nobody can be overlooked. when a decision is made being made, it's always unanimous. it's always collective. and that's the understanding. that's the s is that? so it makes nato nate out. that's why you can't get to the outside of data. that's why you can't get another country outside of data. because everything always needs to be unanimous, that's why only someone can leave. because if someone wants sleep, that is their own free will to leave. and again, as i'm safe, there being no mechanism is only the simplest answer. i believe this is
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a much more deeper understanding that shows what the essence of nato is and how the whole understanding of even being able to check someone out. even the process i'm trying to get someone out is the most anti native thing the most ante natal thought one can. one can come up with coming up next. pressure mounts on nato members to arm ukraine. will president earth one cave into western pressure will have more with use of aram when we return the m. o will be right back . i blue. look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings,
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nato. meanwhile, many turks are lashing out at swedish protesters who burn the koran outside of their embassy labeling. this hate speech and use of aram is back with us. so use of . currently, u. s. lead nato is under pressure to present a united front against moscow. there was a stalemate among nations of who would supply what to kiev. washington broke that deadlock when president biden announced the us would give kiev $31.00 of these and one abrams tanks. so as a result, germany said they would send some leopard to a 6 tanks. they approved poland requests to send some of their stock of leopards as well. france so far has tabled the idea of sending any main battle tanks to kia. they haven't ruled it out, but so far it sounds unlikely, based on the conditions that they've laid out, the checks flat out. no. where does her kid stand on that can you foresee or the
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one caving into western pressure to further arm kiev? well, when we look at turkish foreign policy in turkey, polity towards both russia and ukraine since february 24th thirty's main policy is to continue the relationship as it was before the war ever started to get was supplying drones to ukraine before the war started is continuing to supply drones during the war 2 days in doing business with russia before the war started bought, as for hundreds is continuing its projects such as the nuclear power plant in korea and several other partnerships and gauge with. and it's continuing them while the wards, while the worst can ongoing. so as, as i said, it's continuous business as if there is no war. is bilateral relationships with each country now supplying a tank, supplying
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a fighter jet to you create the piece that understanding that that's a, that's something that it was not supplying to ukraine before the war started. so that would, that would change the balance, i think, change the understanding and change to gets position towards each of the actors. i think elkins to continue to sell drones, but i don't think that it would supply tanks. i don't think they would supply at 6 teams. i don't think that would supply at boards or any other fighter jets and squeak, because this is not military sale or not a military dialogue that it had with ukraine before the war started. it would show that this was done out of necessity of the war in that 2 days now taking a position now breaking the balance that is in holding. so i think that position is something that the target expressing great be values. i think that he has seen much benefit whether it be the black sea green initiative being broken because of that
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position. the prisoner swap being broker at the lateral between who labor lab, rob, and till we show the non and most likely future meetings that we're going to see as well. so i highly doubt that it will change its position on the type of weapons that it has supplied ukraine. i don't think that we'll see any made battle tanks or fighter jets being supplied from the turkey side. now, recently, there were protests outside of the turkish embassy and sweden. we saw a controversial burning of the koran. there some even burnt effigies of president earth one. what is the sentiment that group is trying to project here? is it one that's anti turk? is it anti muslim eyes that just anger over nato? i mean, how did you read these protests? first of all, i think what's being expressed very simply as hate. we're seeing a perfect storm up anti turkey, anti turkish positions. target phobia,
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zen oppo, be islamic phobia. these are all obstacles against nato. i. i always tell my swedish counterparts that church is not the one placing an obstacle in front of nato. it's the p g, a protest that are placing the obstacle in front of nato for swedish succession. and at the end, the day, what we hear, the argument coming back is this is freedom of expression. while when we look at freedom of expression, i think the best way miss has is to say what is being express what's being expressed when you're burning across. what's being expressed besides intolerance and hey, there are swedish laws, i believe it's chapter 16, article 8. if you have time google it, it's very complex and it took me very long time to sit down and understand. sweden's understanding of freedom of expression is very, very, actually, actually a very different than the american understanding. i see the american understanding
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of freedom of expression is much more logical, more implementable, more understanding towards minorities, especially religious or regarding race. but i see many times sweet saying why it's freedom of expression. there's nothing we can do about. of course there's something you can do about it. if someone's burning a holy book. and that is appending to 1000000000 people across the and we're talking about 25 percent the global population. i think there's something i think there's some freedoms that some people can do without. and i think that's far from expressing anything of value. it's expressing, hey, this is how the turks understand it. there is most recent polls show a 92 percent negative sentiment now towards sweden, nato accession bid. i think that's a tremendous, overwhelming amount of the turkish population showing a negative sediment towards sweden succession. be that this is
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a quite unprecedented because normally we would never see this many everyday turks care about another country's nato accession bit, but at the end of the day, 92 percent. that's an astounding number. the turkish parliament to not ratify something that 92 percent of the public does not want. the target president cannot push something through parliament that 92 percent of his public does not want to get a democracy. 92 percent that people they don't want it in any democracy that will not pass that will not pass. and that will not pass in sweden that will not pass in any nato member countries. so i don't know why people are trying, expecting you to be able to push this through. for the record sweden has previously punish someone for miss gendering a trans person online calling that hate speech. so by comparison, it's hard not to agree that the koran burning isn't also a form of hate. how about examining the u. s. trickier relationship?
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a few years back, we saw some scuffles outside of the turkish embassy right here in washington. d. c . turkey has requested that the u. s. extradite for tele glen. the u. s. has refused. we saw tensions or over turkey or buying russian made s 400 air defense systems, or in syria, where the u. s. was backing the y p g, which is the syrian arm of the p k. hey, which turkey has designated a terror organization? there seems to be some fundamental differences between this coupling. where do you see this relationship going in the next few years? right now, i think the relationships going to be on hold for a little while. and when i mean on old is it seems that divided administration is waiting for church selections to be completed until any theories diplomacy is going to be undertaken. and the sad part is after turkish elections, whoever is in government, whoever's in power will probably wait for the us elections to finish before they
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undertake some series diplomacy as well. so we're probably going to lose a year with both countries waiting and seeing who's going to be in power. come 202420232024. so we're going to lose a little time. but right now, the major issues as sixteen's 2 has been waiting a very long time for a sale that should normally be a formality between the united states in any major nato member country. we're seeing a lot of pressure inside congress holding up this deal. frankly, i don't think it's a do or die sale or to get it. turkey doesn't get the 16th. it's probably a blessing in disguise. i think there's very good other options that to take a look at. i think that you should begin looking at europe wider typhoon talking more to the bridge. there's a couple other options on the market as well. she is also developing its own fighter aircraft that's going to be ready towards the end of this decade. so it's
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going to need a stop gap for it's aging air lead now to is made some modernization kits for at 16, so it can modernize some of its up aging fleet. so it's not the end of the world if it happen is great. if it doesn't happen, it's just another nail in the coffin of the u. s. relationship. it's the relationship that she wants to save. i think the united states, the value in the relationship still regardless. but these flash points, they're just getting more frequent. they're getting bigger and frank be right now we need to see cooler heads prevail in the u. s. turkey front. i don't know how that's going to happen. i don't know how these flash points are going to be solved because many of them are very engraved, ending american support for the y p g really require a complete overall of us engagement in syria, which is so late in the game. i don't know how they're going to do it. they just fell into a complete y p g swap right now i don't even think the americans know their
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strategy right now in syria. i think us 10 american officials about what their end game is and sir, i think you'd probably get 10 different answers because they don't know jazz are very specific game in syria. it's creating a 30 mile, but presuming they're 25 mile, but present that has a very specific strategy on what it wants to do in the region as well. but again, is america shifting to the pacific? is it going to continue the same level of engagement in the middle east? we're seeing different statements, different actions. we're seeing a lot of double standards against to, again, as long as narratives are prevailing in congress without some type of strategic direction. regarding to the, i don't think the relationship is going to get better anytime soon. use of aram. appreciate your time and analysis. thank you so much for that. and that's going to do it for this weeks episode of modus operandi. the show that digs deep into foreign policy. i'm your host manila chan. thank you for tuning in. we'll see you
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again next week to figure out the m. o. ah ah with oh well it shows the wrong one all through. just don't hold any new world yet to see proud disdain becomes the attitude. an engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart,
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