tv Going Underground RT February 18, 2023 12:30pm-1:01pm EST
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[000:00:00;00] ah, [000:00:00;00] ah, i'm african or t as in, welcome back to going underground. broadcasting all around the world from dubai in the united arab emirates opposition is growing in nato nations to the u. s. war on russia through ukraine a year on from russia, responding to the shelling of don bass washington dcs. lincoln memorial to morrow, hosts rage against the war machine. calling for an end to you as interference in ukraine and the end of any us plans for war with china. one of those joining former
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u. s. presidential contenders in congress. people is legendary. comedian and host of his eponymous show jimmy door. he joins me from los angeles. thank you so much, jimmy fur coming on. just tell me 1st about the lincoln memorial march demonstration rally. i haven't really heard much from the opposition in your country as to what's been happening regarding the massive multi 1000000000 dollar aiming elements for ukraine, that alone, either shooting down of the infamous balloon from china. so again, what's happening in the united states is that the people in the united states have no idea what's going on in ukraine or what's going on with china. and what's even worse is they have no idea that they have no idea what's going on. and so they're fed war propaganda. 247 from there talking heads on the corporate media that's owned by people who want war. so the war machine is going strong and the anti war movement has been debt in the united states because a rock, obama profitable,
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almost completely for a war e took us from to war to 7. he dropped more bombs than george bush. the war machine is out of control in the united states. i get on stage in comedy clubs and in america. and i see, you know, we said $100000000000.00 to ukraine. i just wish we'd send a 100000000000 dollars to the united states and people cheer because they see what's happening. they see that the people living under every braves we can solve homelessness and america 3 times over with the money we send to the war machine for you brain. so what we're trying to do is, if you are against these wars which are completely wor, economic wars, that's what this is, right? the united states is trying to do a proxy war on russia, because we're afraid of russia in germany coming together. what we really bear in the united states is the economies of russia in germany, coming together the band power and the natural resources of russia and the capitalism is acknowledged of germany. and this has been a concern for the united states for years and years. and so what are we doing?
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we're doing the proxy war new brain and try to damage that, which is why we blew up their ne pipeline. and i've read. and so what we're doing tomorrow at the lincoln memorial is anybody who's against these war, it's time to start an anti war movement again in the united states. and so i don't care how you feel about any other issue. i don't care how you feel about cough, i don't care how you feel about from or joe biden. i don't care how you feel about to hear the or medicare, if you're against this wars, and you want to stop this war change, then you should show up tomorrow at the lincoln memorial in washington, d. c. because we've got to unite people who are against these wars, you don't stop wars by aligning with people who agree with you on other things than what gives an anti war movement. its power is that you align with people who you disagree with that almost everything else, but you can come together on this one thing. so if you're against the war, i don't care what your feelings are about anything else. if new gingrich is against
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a war, i want new king, which on that stage, if donald trump is against the war, i want him on that stage. i don't care who's against the war. i want you to be at the lincoln memorial tomorrow in washington, d. c. and let the war machine know that we're coming together to stop there. ah, but on theory leads that are able to divide this cross party ambition that you have . i mean, just on nord stream, sy hersh the great reporter, expose the my lai massacre, the abu ghraib. so many different stories. people can look up a, his interview on going underground on our rumble channel at you. you said there was an act of fir, sabotage that somehow, if you agree with hersh biden was very clear about the nord stream pipeline. the energy reserves for the european union, the word destroyed. and i should say, mainstream nato media claimed it could be russia destroying their own pipeline debate and said it was a deliberate act of sabotage. the russians are pumping out this information lies. and at the appropriate moment, when things come down,
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we are going to be sending divers down to find exactly what happened. isn't that the problem? people think you're a putin puppet, you're the one spreading out russian. this information here, joe biden himself said they were going to stop the north st pipeline. i didn't make that up, he said, and now sy hersh is revealed exactly in a detailed way exactly how they did it. we all knew they did it. russia, that's a cash cow for russia that pipeline. why would they blow up their own cash cow? of course it makes no sense. and of course, you know, i'm old enough to remember the iraq war, and that was sold it to you. american people on a pack allies and anybody who pushed up against it and said that saddam hussein was not a threat to the united states. saddam hussein didn't do 911. and saddam hussein doesn't have any weapons of mass destruction. you are called a sit out, do you recall apologise for saddam saying they're doing that. it's the same thing over and over. if i oppose the libyan war, they said the same thing about gadhafi, the syrian war, they called me in the scientist. i was right about the gas attacks. i was right
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about libya. i was right about iraq. and of course it's not. he doesn't take a genius to see what's going on. the united states are doing a proxy warn you. great. now they're ramping up their saber rattling with china. why? it's all about economics. we've had 400 military bases surrounding china since the korean war that are the chinese military bases surrounding america. and they don't exist. the united states is the world's terrorists. and i don't know why europe is going along with europe is being punished, they're the ones who are paying higher for higher gas prices, higher energy prices, they're the ones whose economy is hurting because of this while they're going along with the hedge on that is the united states is beyond me, pollutant is asked about this, who is wondered when is the when under european leaders going to stand up? you know, myrtle wouldn't. she's the one who pushed for those pipeline. she pushed back against the american hegemony. but now that's all over the all that, okay, blow up our pipelines, we hear more about this military industrial complex project, which is a proxy or do you great, then they care about their own people in germany. i don't understand what's going
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on, but maybe the people in europe will rise up against this military industrial complex . this hand, jamante, the imperial, is them of the united states. i hope they do because if they don't, it's going to rec, them in his wrecking them right. now, this is about the united states that more natural gas and selling more energy to europe, russia, so 40 percent provide 20 percent of the energy to europe in the united states or companies. they want some of that money. and so who owns the government in the united states? the corporations run the government. this is a fascist stage that there's no make no mistake about it. if what lou selena called fascism, meaning the marriage of passion, a state and corporations against their own people, that's what we're living in in the united states, which is why you can take the richest country that the face of the earth has ever seen. and half the people are poor, a low income, 80 percent of workers live paycheck to paycheck. 50 percent of wage earners are $30000.00 or less in the richest country. the face of the earth is never seen. we
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live in a failed system. we're not regular corrupt people think that the united states is corrupt, like? well, joe biden gave his kid a no show job at the ukraine energy board or, or trump did the same thing with his kid. that's not, that's not that corruption. we're looking at, we're looking at unbelievable corruption, entire wars being waged on complete corruption. iraq was complete, corruption, libya, syria, now you brain and they're trying to do the same thing in china. i don't know what's going to happen. this is how all empires and by the way, we have a 1000 military bases, the united states, as a 1000 military bases, we just added 4 more, i think in the philippines. and we still have people living under every bridge in the united states. we are a complete corrupt country. we are the world's terrorists, and i and the word they're, the terrorists have bought the media and that's why people don't know what's going on. and so that's why they have to suppress people like us. and they have to discredit anti war rallies like we're doing tomorrow at the lincoln mall. i'll just
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say the u. s. administration denies all of that. and those claims, and i got to say, you're right, there are constituencies on the right. on the left you're saying all you want of the masses, you don't sir. care where you are from. the important thing is not ward. i know you talk on your program about just being a comedian and yet investigating these issues. ironically. and also the paramount aim seems to be not to want world war 3. why is it then that the people to morrow there are important congress people, former congresspeople, former presidential candidates. you can get the sports and show business popular pop culture. people that really speak to the wider demographics out there or how, how is the media so disciplined about it? and how are the showbiz stores? so you're, you're speaking to me from l. a. you're a comedian, or the golden globes. all these award ceremonies you see zalinski speaking at the oscars coming up. why? why does no one else?
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why did the celebrities not go with your line of questioning and your questioning as to whether we may be on a precipice them of no return? it is the complete control of the narrative and the message through the corporate media. people, i don't know if they know in the united states, we used to have 50 giant media companies in this country and, and they'll have a big companies. and then in 1996 bill clinton passed the telecommunications act, which took us from 50 giant media companies down to just 6. so just a handful of billionaires control all the messaging and all the narrative in the united. but i talking about the celebrities that are on in still, you know, the be, they seem to talk to the young, but they don't know that they're just so mary, not just shawn hand. so the parent, it's john penn is a c i a asset. and what, and he's the biggest tool i've ever seen, he thinks he's james dean and elvis presley. and what, what he really is, is just a pop in of the military industrial complex and why. and it's because the united states is the most propagandized country in the world. they have no idea that they
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are. and so the message can never get through. and now they even have a sensor on youtube. and as you know, in places like that were, if you go against again, it just who you're not allowed to criticizes the ones who rule over you. i wasn't allowed to tell the truth about the coven narrative on you too, because a big farmer runs our corporate, our corporate media. and i wasn't logged true about ukraine, syria, lydia, you're not allowed to tell the truth about these things or you'll get censored. so that's why i think the people in hollywood, they have no idea that they're propagandized. they think that they're being good boys. and the cia is on the side of democracy. that's what they really think. so that's the problem with hollywood hollywood are the, the most easily corruptible tools in the world. well, i mean, did the chinese balloon surprises even you answer the blank and saying we're confident that there was a surveillance balloon, the presence of the surveillance balloon. and us as basically a violation of us sovereignty and international law. did that surprise even you as
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a comedian, regardless of what you claim to be totally, terry and cultural control by the military industrial complex. so whatever they're saying, whatever the government of the united states is saying about that chinese balloon, i would believe the opposite. no matter what they're saying, it's a lot. so united states is probably using that balloon for to saber rattling china. that's exactly what this is all about. they need to convince the american people that some are china is a threat to the united states that needed to convince the american people that russia is a threat to the united states and how they are over throwing our elections. really, russia is controlling our elections. that's weird, that they didn't get donald trump elected again. they just didn't one time that where it's weird, they wouldn't do it all the time. right. so the chinese has a balloon. so why would they send a balloon over the united states to spy and us when they already have satellites that can do the exact same thing. so again,
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they're using this to keep the american people scared. so they can go ahead and do their gemini and imperialism all around the world. that's all. this is about the military, industrial complex as a strangle hold on our government and our media. i'm not making that up. that's not i'd per belief. that's why what's going on is going on. we have a bunch of criminals. the united states is a, might be a state, nato, is a, might be a state. nato is not a defensive organization. nato is now offensive organization creating wars and implemented economic gemini. that's exact, what does natal there? it's just to guarantee energy transfer and guarantee shipping lanes. and you know, like all of which green pipeline, you know. yeah. and so, but it doesn't say that jimmy, i'll stop you that more from the comedian anti war activists and host of jimmy doors after this.
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ah, ah, what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms race is on offense. very dramatic development. only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very critical time time to sit down and talk ah, but pity the youngsters of today's because there's a lot of censorship on many topics in school that started just a migration topic to my impression it went on with the climate change tom back, it went on and i'm a how you see it. i mean, there was no, there was no real debate. it was either or, but never as and, and now it's about russia and it's about, yes,
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we have to fight russia and russia has to be taken off the map with ah, welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the comedian host, with jimmy door show jimmy dore himself. here. you're talking about these people going to the lincoln memorial to morrow in washington, d. c. and you mentioned the fact that trump, where was discarded by the military industrial complex given that they could have brought down trump, these sorts of powers within the democrat party within the military, within the cia they are rumored to have had their part in this fascinating president of the united states. how can rage against the war machine do what even sail on musk seems to be a bit scared about in terms of reforming twitter. as regards freedom of speech in the 1st amendment,
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what do you think makes them so scared that you aren't scared about? oh well i, it's not an eye mask. i know that as soon as we become a real threat that they'll do things. they've only done things they've already writing hit pieces about meter already writing hit. they had their corporate media writing hit pieces about this rally. what they're doing now is trying to say, i'm a right wing maniac, and that i'm not what i appear to be, which is a lefty who's anti war and pro workers. and they tried to spread at me just like they did the julian assad, right. they try to say, i mean a scientist working with russia. of course he wasn't. and they try all julie besides is doing is revealing the secret war crimes of the powerful. so you know what i am afraid of the c i. e c i. of course they kill people. that's how they get things done. they blew up in their stream pipeline. they've, they did a coup in ukraine in 2014, to overturn the democratically elected president. so get to see, i will kill you if you get in the way. no problem, and i, if that's the way you know, i want to become a threat to them right now. i'm not,
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that's why i'm allowed to do this. i'm allowed to do the same group. i'm trying to maybe this war rally. this anti war rally will wake people up. that's the whole point of doing rallies is to alert the public to what's actually happening and get people on board. and the only way we're going to end this more machine and get any kind of control back of our government is people getting in the streets. that's the only way. we're not going to do it at the ballot box because joe biden serves the same people, just like the republican serve the exact same military industrial complex. as ralph nader taught us, the only difference between a democrat and republican is the speed at which there need it's the floor one of donor enters the room. and so that's why american politics is so corrupted. politicians need money. we're on a campaign and they don't get it from the government. like in other countries, the government finances, their campaigns, we have corporations sponsor our campaign. so now we have completely corporate corrupted government, which leads to endless war in my lifetime. we're so you know, that the united states had
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a thing called the project for the new american century. i might be mangling those words. and but the idea though, so general wesley clark revealed this, that after $911.00, he went to the pentagon and he was shown the plan that had panic. got an already and drawn, drawn up to go and invade libya, to invade syria, to invade iraq, to invade afghanistan, to invade us, to death. they're the ones who have these plans all along the united states is the merit is the world's terrorist. and people need to wake up to that. well, what about if you're an average american worker? actually at that sir, that's a complicated question because of the media vision of an average american worker and her a real one that you might hear from intellectual and jose who doesn't have enough to feed themselves to night. what are they would to say? but you see what you're doing is hastening the end of us empire, only to have russia and china take their place. a. so americans,
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empire is built on the petro dollar, which people don't understand. so what the potential dollar is, is that saudi arabia is the world's largest exporter of oil, right? so when people come to buy their oil, there's an agreement between the united states and saudi arabia, that saudi arabia will make people and other countries convert their currency into u. s. dollars, and then purchase their oil and us dollars. and what does that do for the united states? it makes our dollar be the reserve currency of the world, which i artificially props up to dollars and our economy. so once that goes away, so now every other country keeps lots of american dollars and to reserve. and so they use that for all to trade other stuff too. so now as soon as the petro dollar goes away, meaning, so now saudi arabia, starting to sell oil in other denominations, like to china, right. and they're not using american dollars. so as soon as the actual dollar goes away, the u. s. dollar being the reserve currency around the world goes away,
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our economy completely fresh is and we lose our ability to print endless money. and so that's coming right now. so what's, what's happening in the united states, we, this is the end of empire, and this is the way, this is the way empires and we over extend militarily, and we don't take care of our own country. it's exactly happening. we don't have a living wage in america. half the country's poor, low income, got people living under every bridge. as we just built for more military base is a tough in philippines. it knocks what's going on and this is the end of our empire . that's not hyperbole. either okay, so what do you say when you do your stand up shows? i know you're touring and you've been touring, interspersed with the tv and the live costs are through the internet. when you get heckler's saying that you're an apologist for putin or she did bring or, or do they all basically come then knowing the kind of the line, the angle, about the end of us empire. well, every once in a while, i do get a heckler,
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i just thank him for the $30.00 for the ticket price, and that he was paying $30.00 to come yell at me. i appreciate it. no people come to my shows, are pretty on board. they get it already. that's why they buy a ticket to my show. i'm not showing up on, announced that comedy clubs and people don't know who the comedian is. they know it's me so they come on purpose and my audience gets it. and by the way, my audience is a cross section of america, my audience has hippies and it has right wingers in it and has union members. it has trump voters, it has rochel by brock obama voters, barry sanders and border libertarians. it has a complete cross section of the united states because people are sick and tired of it. and what we, what they want to do is that what they're, when i, when i say they, i mean the oligarchy, which is what america is. we're not a democracy. anymore, that's been proven by a princeton study that the peoples with the will of the people is never expressed and is never expressed in legislation. and that's why i know we live in an
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oligarchy. i mean, why is it so important as well? and why so critical critically important that you criticize the, the pho left, the so called left in your country that the major newspapers on the coasts of the united states claim a somebody left wing. why do you find it so important to, to criticize those who claim to be socialists when, in fact you allege and sometimes a provide evidence for the fact that they're actually nothing of the kind. so the reason why there's a bernie sanders or there's an a o c elected to government in the united states, is the key people thinking that there is someone in government fighting for you and there isn't. and so it's to keep you inside the system. so what bernie sanders did to election cycles in a row was he took there, there's a lot of people who are sick and tired of the system and they have given up on the
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system, which is what you need for a revolution. but what bernie sanders and a o c and people like them are there to do is to keep you believing in the system. and so to keep you, not protesting, bernie sanders and ac is not once ever, ever asked their people to get into the street to protest the establishment and the oligarchy about anything. and they never will. and so that's why i concentrate my criticism on people like that because those are the people that are keeping people who with a revolutionary energy inside of pro or anti worker party and a system. they're the ones that keep people thinking, we can vote our way out of this. the only way to get out of this is for people like bernie sanders and aol. see, and, and people like me to tell our followers to get into the streets and shut stuff down. that's the only way by coming together now there's a guy named christian smalls who organized a union at amazon, the 1st unit, amazon united states. he did it on staten island, which is
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a suburb of new york city. not i know people know, but staten island isn't made up of black and brown. people who are lefties. it's made up of white working class. people who loaded for trump. he had to now unionize those people and organize them together. and the way you do that is you say that we have things in common. we have to, we have an oppressor, we have a common enemy, we need to come together. and that is what scares the establishment and the oligarchy, the most people from the left and the right, coming together to fight them. because we realize we have a common enemy so that the only thing the establishment has now is narrative control and the narrative control. that's a divide the left and the right. they car, people who on the right they call everybody fascists. the democratic party just get implemented fascism when they broke a union strike by the railroad workers. the railroad workers are the glue that holds our economy together. they don't get sick pay in america. think about that. we have a 1000 military bases. we spend a trillion dollars a year on war, the people who are the glue for our economy in the united states,
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the railroad workers don't even get sick page. they were going to go on strike and they were going to get it because they would break this economy if they want to strike the democrats, joe biden crush, their strike took away their ability, organized and implemented. a b s a contracted they had to it sat ok boy. now his party is implementing fascism. ok, well they deny that we go neo c advisor on will deny. did i all of that in the abs? we're saunders and they will see both say they've organized little demonstrations in their constituencies just in a couple of minutes. then if someone was to say, i'm not going to go to your demonstration tomorrow because you're basically a fascist yourself. i kind of not see because rusher is like hitler somehow, and that we've got to defend that ukraine and plucky zalinski and send him war plants and jets and weapons, and cluster bombs. yeah, what they're doing. so they're unwittingly using the american. the people of ukraine has cannon fodder, and
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a proxy and economic proxy war. what we did was provoke this invasion, and the german chancellor just admitted that we provoked this invasion in 2014 the united states over through the democratically elected government of ukraine. why did they do that be? and then they had the mint agreement, which was a peace agreement. what was that? that mean? the government of the ukraine would stop bombing the russian speaking ukrainians in the don bass, the eastern part of ukraine and the german chancellor. just admitted the reason why they got that piece agreement was still that ukraine would have enough time to build up their military. so when you brain actually did start bombing the don bass again and provoked russia's invasion to protect those people, that the ukraine would have a more powerful military to fight. and this is again, all about economic. the cat is out of the bag, but the people who say that i'm aiding russia somehow, i've been propagandized. they don't know the history of what's happened. they don't know. nieto is an offensive force natal provoke this invasion ukrainians. their own citizens. you bring government was killing and bombing them. people don't know this
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. they don't know the history because when the corporate media in the united states still tells the story of you brain, they started from pollutants invasion. they don't know why to invaded. they don't know that the ukrainian government was bombing those people for 8 straight years and slaughtering them. they don't know that there been with nazis literal nazis, which is why when a zalinski campaign he campaigned on bringing people together. he campaigned on peace. and then as soon as he got elected, he gets the threat from nato to get to threat from the nazis and ukraine. that if he does bring peace, they're going to kill them. and so that's why we're in this position we are in today, and people have no idea that that's what happened. so you can call me anything you want. there's only one way to end this war. it. everyone knows that the you bring war is going to end with the negotiation. so we have to get people have been negotiating table right now. nato doesn't want joe biden does want to negotiation. he wants to keep this going on. he wants to keep people being killed in you. great . so we can bleed russia economically and that plan isn't working. what we're doing
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is russia is now becoming closer and closer with china, and they're going to become the new center of economics in the world. them big economic force and petro dollar is going away, which means the american currency being the currency of the world, is going away. it's a disaster for the west and nato and bring europe, which is why i don't understand why the people will wake up to this. because, but the reason why they will wake up to this is because they don't get to see shows like this, or hear voices like me. they only hear voices from the pro war military industrial complex bought media. well, biden, you're right, doesn't one negotiations right now, but the cia denies all your allegations that came back to us once was so irritated by us, continually asking them about allegations against them. but that they didn't that your allegations, as does of course, mr. zelinski kiev. jimmy door, the demons to r, thank you very much. that's it for the show. but remember, if you're watching this on saturday, you can join jimmy at the lincoln memorial in washington dc. tomorrow, sunday,
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