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the who's, what happens when you've been wronged in the workplace? what do you do? let's say you're one of the top performing employees. you have met all of the criteria for promotion, and you speak very difficult, foreign languages that you use at work literally every single day, but you're still past over for promotion. and when you challenge it, you're told right to your faith that you are being transferred to a less desirable position just because of the color of your skin. you file a complaint with human resources after all, this kind of discrimination is patently illegal. but you've made trouble for the leadership and this isn't just the leadership of some random company. this is the leadership of the central intelligence agency. what happens next? not only are you not promoted, not only are you not given the assignment that you would originally been given,

but you're charged with multiple counts of espionage, and you face the prospect of spending the rest of your life in prison. i'm john curiosity and you're watching the whistleblowers ah. 2 2 2 today we're going to tell you about the story of one of the most heroic whistleblowers in the american intelligence community. this is the story of jeffrey sterling, an accomplished ca, operations officer, an expert on iranian affairs. jeffrey also happens to be african american. he joined the cia in 1993 and after going through operational and farsi language training, he was sent overseas to work on hard targets. he handled some of the most difficult cases in the near eastern operations division, but in 2000 he was passed over for a promotion. and his supervisor intimated the jeffrey could not have

a plumb assignment that he had already been given. simply because he was black. he filed the racial discrimination lawsuit against the cia, but instead of giving him his original assignment apologizing or trying to settle things quietly, the cia used it's nuclear option. we'll walk you through that story and tell you about one of the most resilient whistleblowers we know. jeffrey sterling, welcome to the show and thanks so much for joining us. thank you for having me, jeffrey. you and i were at the cia at the same time. in that period in the 1990 s, the agency spent a great deal of time, energy and money focusing on the iranian nuclear program. you were trained in iran operations and you even learned to speak farsi. you had success overseas and you were involved in an operation that the ca ended up blowing. you returned to ca headquarters and you were up for both a promotion and for a plumb assignment. tell us what happened then. why did you not go back overseas?

well, with regard to the iranian operation, but i was involved in corp merlin, and it was designed to work around a nuclear program by giving them plan, given the iranians plans to a nuclear weapon. but the plan would have a flaw. so if your audience use the plans to make a nuclear weapon, it wouldn't work. and the theory being that it would set that program back a number of years. well, i was given assurances that the plans would not the floor plans would not be detected by anyone they were worked on by one of our national last year in the us. so i was given all sorts of assurance that this was a safe program and it wouldn't help the iranians get weapons. well, we were going through and getting close to launch the individual who i was working with to approach the iranian with the plans. when he 1st saw the plan,

immediately detected the law. so far as being what it is, anybody sees a claw, they're going to try to fix it and made it maybe even better than it would have been before. so when the individual was able to apply immediately, all sorts of alarm bells and whistles went off in my head that this isn't going to help you for a year. it's actually going to help them develop a nuclear weapon. so i made my concerns known to my supervisors even all the way up through other channels within the ca. and the response basically was, as i was told at the meeting, where we learned about that the individual could see the flaw was to show i took my concerns to the senate intelligence committee with really no attention on really no care. it was a ration and as long as it's family approval,

no one care. my goodness, i want to ask you also about your racial discrimination lawsuit. what happened? there is a problem for every intelligence community employee who's been wronged. you had a legitimate lawsuit, but it was dismissed by the district court after the ca invoked the state secrets privilege. you appealed to the federal court of appeals, but that court upheld the dismissal, saying, quote, there is no way for sterling to prove employment discrimination without exposing at least some classified details of the covered employment that gives context to his claim. on quote, what this clearly means is that you may have been discriminated against you probably were discriminated against, but to allow you to have your day in court like every other american would have, might expose secrets that has to be colossally frustrating. you never got your day in court. what happened next?

absolutely. well, even just add a little more context on that. i mean, i'm a lawyer. i went to law school, i knew the law. i knew what my options were and knew what protections i should have had under the constitution. i'm for a court one for the say to invoke stacy was privileged to hi there discrimination. they weren't saying it wasn't discriminated. yes. they were saying that they didn't want to have to expose it or have a fall under scrutiny for an appeals court to uphold bad decision. it basically said, and it is through everything i learned last to lock the door that a black man fighting for civil rights fighting for his civil rights is a threat to the national security of the century. oh, it's strong. this still us things because us on the front to the very nature of the constitution, i did not sign onto the cia with the thought that i'm giving up my civil rights. and that was also important to understand is there was no argument about the merits

of my discrimination case against the cia or they just did not want to have their discrimination expose under the light of justice. and so i, it was tossed aside. oh, without even getting to the mirrors of another thing that was happening in the background throughout this time was that the cia was intercepting emails that you were exchanging with. then new york times journalist james rising, rising was covering the story of your discrimination suit. but the cia alleged without offering any proof that you were passing rise in secrets about iran. the cia never offered any proof that this was happening. in fact, there were disgruntled former c, i officers who otherwise would have been prime suspects. but they hadn't embarrassed the cia by accusing them of racial discrimination. you didn't know, of course, that you were being investigated under the espionage act. and by the time you found

out the deck was already stacked against you. you were finally charged with multiple counts of espionage in the notorious eastern district of virginia. a disclaimer, i was also charged with multiple counts of espionage in the eastern district of virginia at about the same time. and like you, i hadn't committed espionage and the charges against me were eventually dropped. but you were tougher than i was you decided to fight them. that was an incredibly courageous move. tell us what that was like, what, what did it feel like as you were going through that experience? well, the, the initial shock was that i was trying to, i was the only purpose i had in mind joining in exposing a flawed program was i was trying to serve my country satellite if you will. but then to be accused of violating the espionage act, essentially is looking at the face of spying or providing any secrets,

providing our country secrets to an enemy, to be charged with that after trying to stand up for my rights as a citizen trying to work for the cia and to be shown the door essentially by being accused of being a spy was a horrible experience. made me question everything about how my country viewed me. but i was the totally that i wasn't going to bow down to any sort of aggression like this. i knew i was never going to plead guilty to something that i did not do . and that certainly was the case here. i did not provide any one any secret with regards to anything that i worked on for with the ca. yes, in the throes of being fired. because as a result of my discrimination and having the nerve to stand up to them, they,

i know there is a feeling that they had of retaliation. there is no vengeance like a vengeance runs deep and it runs law and any opportunity that they have to go after anyone perceived as an enemy, they're going to take it. they took that opportunity with me. yeah. i, you know, again, having my legal background, i knew what i was facing yet. i had a belief in truth that the truth will come out and, and that the criminal justice system would work the way it's supposed to do. it did not. i have no regrets about standing up for myself. i will never have any regrets . i think i regret how the system treated me and then really overall, how it treats whistleblowers in general. i think that is the crime here. agreed you underwent something of a show trial jeffrey, even former secretary of state condo. liza rice came out to testify against you,

but the ca had to admit that he had had no actual evidence that you had committed a crime. they had some metadata showing that you were in touch with rise and which you were clear about. but you argued that the 2 of you were talking about your racial discrimination lawsuit. nonetheless, you were convicted on a whole bunch of counts. this, of course, being the eastern district of virginia, after all. and even though you faced more than a 100 years in prison, you got 3 and a half. that in and of itself to me is evidence of your innocence. there is evidence that the c, i was upset with a sentence. the federal bureau of prisons claims that it tries to keep prisoners as close his family. sorry as close as possible to their families. but you were sent all the way across the country to a prison in colorado, and it was from this prison that you launched your appeal. tell us about those experiences. well, one thing i want to say it was about the eastern district virginia. i mean,

that is also the same court had decided i as a black man had no civil rights to be standing up for myself was a threat to national security. so it was a revolving door going to the same place that had no regard for me as a citizen of this country. but going through that trial, you're absolutely right. it was nothing more than a show for the see. i had absolutely no evidence to present. they had to admit that they didn't investigate anyone else other than me, even in the face of damning evidence against others. we had an individual on the stand who was part of the senate intelligence committee or the group that i spoke to my concerns about operation, maryland. that individual, shortly after the interview with me when i was using the proper channel channels to complain about classified operations that individuals fired for leasing information classified information from the senate intelligence committee reporter

. and by the way, that reporter happened to be the same one that i was accused of leaking information too. and yet that individual wasn't question wasn't investigated at all. yet, as you said, they collected every email that could possibly come from any computer i use as well as rise as well as others. but i was the only focus of their investigation. so going through that show trial was a little joke, if you will. the prosecution tried every move, every measure that they could try to keep me from looking at evidence. one of the only clear valid talks the judge has was that they couldn't prevent me from seeing classified information that i had already had access to. so that through their case, out of the window a little bit, but what they really ended up, really, the only thing that that court proved beyond a reasonable doubt was that i was black. was that i was an african american. there

was a whole parade of ca, officers white officers paraded on the stand to say, yes, i see a officer. no, i did not. i did not. li, classified information, not a bit of evidence about anything that i had done supposedly no support for any of their allegations, yet they were able to prove to that i was a black american and as we unfortunately know in this country sometime, that's all that is needed we're going to take a short break and return for the 2nd half of our conversation with theme ca whistleblower, jeffrey sterling. you're watching the whistleblowers stay tune the. 2 2 2 ah ah,

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rushes un envoy is now speaking of the general assembly, which is currently mulling over a new resolution on ukraine, less listen in life. the western sponsors convene the 11th a emergency special session of the general assembly and the time many of the united nations members of the states. we're disoriented and the you did to the collective request, which was claiming that nothing more terrible had happened in the history of human kind of why the reaction to what was being done by russia was to be unprecedented. since that many of you have better understood the reasons for what happened and what is happening now. and it's become much more difficult for the western academy to mobilize members of the un and support all their crusade against russia. and this is also shown in the emptied out draft resolution

that we have, which are the less remains anti russia and harmful. and i will revert to this topic later. it's just the, the chance of us getting support for something more substantive, given the member say, is a much better informed now are far, far fewer and our opponents, what they need 1st and foremost now on numbers of invoices. so let me sum up and talk about what is the member says, have found out about western thinking and how our world has changed over time. well, 1st of all, became obvious that the, the main element of anti russia propaganda campaign conducted by our former western partners consists of accusing rochelle, the unprovoked aggression against its neighborhood. which is a result of for imperial ambitions under desire to take hold of foreign territory. and destroy as the ukraine, as such,

i'm leaving of these absurd cheese is only possible you forget about the 8 years which preceded our special military operations. and this is how long the criminal nationalist regime which arrived to live as a result of announced additional who supported by the west. and that's how long they kept a waging bloody war against the people in dunbar. and their own crime was there. they wanted to remain russia and they wanted to see their children as russian too. they wanted to honor the memory all their ancestors and did not want want a glorified nazis in their acolytes starting history. on the 24th or 2022 in with knowing everything that came before is an intentional attempt by the collective western confuse people and hide the real reasons for the conflict, whereas they are key for understanding the prospects for its peaceful settlement.

thanks to a very well known confession, confessional number of retired to western leaders, and no one has any doubt to day that the west used the cover of the misc agreement approved by the security council. whereas in actual fact the that have the goal to prepare a ukraine for war against our country, worldly, condoning, and participation of americans and europeans in kia ford is a formation and the armament over truly. although rhetoric returned despotic regime, which kept destroying all of its opposition or anything that could be in any way connected to russia in a country when we are a russian is a native tongue. for most people, men, which for many centuries was culturally united with our country, pursuing a policy like this meant destroying the foundations of society and installing an artifact. a paradigm of ukraine is anti russia. so odd all of these years,

the key of regime continued in human shelly, all the peaceful towns and donnette scandal, hans people's republic, where people, peaceful civilians were dying, including children. and we regularly informed the security council in general assembly about that we conducted was meetings and sessions within the when in which people from don bos themselves participated. and they had the opportunity there to describe their tragedy. and those who followed those meetings understand very well that we had no other option, no option or other than defending the people on balance and ensuring the safety and security of our country. and using military means. in other words, we started the special military operation. so as to stop the 8 the year long in war can bye bye bye key if against the people in don erica logan. so we had warned that

is unacceptable to have the military presence of collective west in the territory of neighbor newton it neighbor neighborly ukraine. this was a direct threat to our national security above the west has on many times, brazenly ignored our reserves and continued bringing the military infrastructure of nato, closer and closer to our borders. the statements made by number of countries that russia is guilty of destroying regional global security systems are hypocritical. our western colleagues now prefer not to recall that bod. at the end of 2021, russia put forth a whole number of specific initiatives on the d escalation and strengthening confidence. in europe, the atlanta area would propose that the u. s. a. nato assign a secure to guarantees. treaties were, therefore, were thus giving diplomacy a chance, but this chance was arrogantly spurned to by the united states and their allies.

the outrage refused or even discussed. our initiatives with, if they had been realised, would have enabled us to avoid what we're witnessing today. and we understand now why that was the case. when we suggested that we reach an agreement on a secure way to guarantee you the west at the time was already going full steam ahead to return ukraine to, into a fully fledged military platform. immediately next to our borders. now remembering that, do we have any reason to trust the statements being made by western representative today when they say that they want to piece, i think are today one year after the active stage of the reagan crisis, crisis began very few doubt about it's not ukraine blue that is fighting russia because your brain basically spent all of its military potential in the 1st week. so they are special military operation. but rather it is

a collective west in the person of the united states, nato in european union allies. not only do they provide t f with weapons and ammunition, they also provide the unfortunate of ukraine with the challenges, information and coordinate a missile strikes at the same time, west that used to tell us tall tales about partnership and corporation has now fully shown it's true colors all decorum ascent aside, and the goal is now is to arm your brain and thus inflict a strategic defeat on my country to dismember and destroy it. such schemes are being openly discussed in a number of eastern european capitals and the european what parliament and slogans to this effect are being promoted in a european can just by european american politicians. for this goal. the west is closing his eyes to the researching, new naziism and ukraine until the glorification of nazi criminals. it's becoming

very clear that the ukrainian cries, if i only become a catalyst for the visceral russ, a phobia to come to the surface. it has now contaminated the american and european elite, so they are competing against each other and the number of anchors sanctions than impose on my country. whereas these france sanctions in actual fact, i'm hitting a developing world hardest in this desire of theirs to defeat russia in any way possible. they can sacrifice not just ukraine. they're ready to plunge the world entire into the abyss of war. what is at stake after all escaping the united state and his allies had germany. they don't want to have any one come to the level of governing the planet. they think it's their turf answer mister burrell stated, they are a one in a wonderful garden and the rest it just the jungle. now the appeals to stop by the

very word developing states is something that the collective west does not react to any piece plan. one in quotes in which she is being introduced by other key affords. western sponsors is an actual fact can boil down to the same self. same thing the capitulation of russia. it has become obvious to everyone a long time ago. and the real attitude of the key approaching to negotiations is shown by the law passed by either ukrainian president in september last year. the law benz negotiating with the russian leadership thanks to the revelations of the former israeli prime minister, natalie bennett. no one doubts so that in the march of last year, when our special military operation wasn't it very early stages with zalinski regime under pressure from its western masters, withdrew their own ideas on long term peace with russia under pressure

from west. and this would have enabled us to remove the reasons which made us starved. the special military operation wanting to london brussels did not arm and strengthen the key of regime made your brain into on to russia so, so russia and ukraine can, once again, leave peace and security. this is the logic of the colonized on pitting neighbors against each other. as well now to our african and asian partners, there's nothing you and the western arsenal that appears since then. so, what can we see today as a result of all of this? what we see is the ukrainian crisis, which isn't conflagration, is being fueled by, by live the west, through their weaponry. they are conducting a hybrid until the war down to the elastic brain. and behind is not just the politicians where they have fantasies about division russian on the battlefield. but rather the greedy, greedy weapons law, me, they're getting their super profits and

a perfect place to test. they are ammunitions and weapons in military conditions. but the involvement, the west and in conflict from indirect is becoming more and more direct, had with noticeable consequences. i know that it ranges from the food energy crisis, which was provoked by the western sanctions to undermining the north stream, for which of course, the perpetrator will have to be held accountable. what we also have is these suffering people over your brain because they are being used by the cave regime as cannon fodder for the purpose of western geopolitical go. those of the ukrainians who end up in the west become a service without any rights and they in the service of their western masters. they are subjected to violence and exploitation and he will. and that is why the most of them, despite the rabbit russell phobic propaganda, saving themselves from the,

from hostilities in russia where the cranium, people are loved and respected. as regards my country to we consider all of that as our war with russia for survival, for the future of our country, our children, and our identity. this is a war which was also the case 80 years ago was ma'am, in which a treacherous and powerful enemies in fault who wants to take over our land and subjugate ours and the rest of phobia, the appeals to dismember. oh country, the german tanks. once again, going to kill russians of the goals to put red stars on the weapons of those who do not wanting to give up on the russian identity. only strength of this impression and this is the plan i came into implement tension, not now but already in 2014. where on our borders we had a regime which was hostile to us and it was being strengthened and ukraine in all of this is nothing more than just upon.