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the result of scientists research and gain of function and opening up hand or a box. as the world is recovering from coven 19. there are still a lot of questions concerning the origin of the virus and the role of us tax hair funded research in china. i'm christy. you're watching the cost of everything we're today. we're going to be taking a look at both sides of the gain of function debate. ah, the dana function research or g a that involves experimentation that aims to increase the transmitter ability and virulence of pathogens. this research is meant to help improve the understanding of diseases and their potential to cause pandemic key word potential . the ultimate objective of this research is to have better preparedness at 1st and

develop counter measures. now, despite their altruistic goals, geo of research can be very dangerous when it comes to bio security and bio safety . there is also the question of ethics, does the benefit of this research outweigh the risks? and all particular concern is that the advances and biotech may enable the development and use of a new generation of biological weapons of mass destruction. a top and i h official has admitted that us taxpayers funded g of as research on bad corona virus, and han and that eco health alliance was v u. s. non profit that funded the hon. institute of urology ego health received $3700000.00 over 6 years from the n i h and distributed nearly $600000.00 of that total to china's hon. lab eco held. the lions has been bundling us taxpayer money to the hon. institute of

urology for risky g o s research. that was in clear violation of us laws, but rather than being punished for this, there are still continuing to receive grants from the national institute of health even to this very day. the an age has repeatedly requested information from eco health allies to provide original lab notebooks and electronic files related to the research under investigation as the cause of the pen demik. but those records were never provided. the lack of specific lab records pinpointing a specific incident, or mutation that led to the emergence of the corona virus has been used as evidence to discount the possibility of a lab origin. but without access to those records in question, such evidence is unattainable. so to summarize, eagle health alliance has violated its grant agreement, spend billions of us taxpayer dollars on elicit research,

and delayed notifying the and i age of dangerous research for over 2 years. at the same time, it has refused to provide the and i with basic documents about the research, eagle health broke federal laws withheld evidence and conducted dangerous research in unsafe conditions. but now instead of being the funded, the national science foundation recently awarded it an additional $1000000.00 grant eco health for predictive intelligence for pandemic prevention. and i h announce a 5 year grant to conduct more studies on corona virus from bats. so it's quite a disturbing pattern that additional funding continues to be awarded for the same higher risk research that may have caused the current pandemic before. there has been even any national investigation of the origin of the pandemic. the grands to ego health continues rewarding. a proven bad actor. now let's dive deeper with dr.

john the brow sky medical doctor at the washington pain center. so what countries are permitting gain of function research and who is leading this field? to great question, i think we're going to learn a lot more about that with the new house that are now in the republican hands in a function for a controversial. it's been all the way back, the obama administration. we were doing it here in the united states and actually the obama administration. i bought it because i thought it was too risky. place that we do know that are doing it as china is doing this in the lab. who's doing it? also there's one to reach that came out in the news. it's up in boston, i think it was a boss university. was doing can a function as well. there are places, there's a place down in houston, texas does, does it as well as north carolina. so there are a lot of places in the united states. there might be other places that i don't know about the ones that are making the news or here in nice faces ross, china. maybe they're doing that united kingdom or other parts of the comment of

europe. i don't know. now, gain a function. we start was paused in 2014, but then the band was lifted. why did the u. s. ban in the 1st place? the, the bandit because he thought it was quite risky. they did not want to have federal dollars going to something that could be, you know, very lethal or certainly problematic if anything was too bad to happen. that's why they banned federal funding for and you know, why, what happened with during the trump administration? i guess there were some sort of bill that was passed and money. unknowingly went back to this and a lot of it to not go to directly to universities for gain of function, but they want to carve out like equal health alliance or other kind of shell organizations that would do basically what was outlawed, gain a function, but they called it a different name in an age funded this other entity to them, you know, do, do what they were actually forbidden to do. and how much federal funding is

currently going to gain a function research. and i don't know, i'm sure it's public knowledge, but again, it is kind of hard to find out because you need to start connecting the dots. i mean, because they didn't really put down in a budgetary item, you know, $10000000000.00 or again, a function. they didn't do that, so they, you know, they probably sent money to a organization. no, no, no one has called equal health alliance or the university of the down in north carolina. again, name is ralph eric, and another fellow was done in houston, texas. and there might have been a university to do something but, but really it was for gain of function. so it says one line item on probably on a budgetary matter. but then we can not, it really is for jenna function research or, or that area of study and how much money is going to research on gain a function outside of the u. s. and does research conducted in other countries, pose a risk given that other nations can steal the research or co opted for their own

purposes. of course, and actually some of these funding that we had. we said we couldn't do it here in the united states, as i said, we're doing it in north carolina, boston and houston, texas. but then we would say, well, we can't do it here, but we can fund it over there and over there might be want china ram, no biology. so i'm in my and god knows there might have been other place that i am not aware of, but perhaps, or other places that we as a governments, that money to saying that, well, we can't do it here. but if you do it over there, that's, that's their business. and your quote is incredibly well taken. this is a great area of research in terms of also protecting us against viruses are being repaired viruses. but the other side of it is it could be used as a biologic wrap it and that's, and that's one of these things you in, in the industry here in the united states is called dual use. so in other words, i might sell you something that's completely innocuous for medical experimentation,

but you can often turn around and use that medical equipment to make a nuclear weapon because it's, it's radiologic activity, you know, radiologic activity. so it's called dual use. so, you know, it's got this purpose that's intended, but maybe you could turn to be something different that could be, you know, incredibly harmful, you know, for us as a country doctor john brozowski, thank you so much for your time. and when we return, is there any economical or scientific benefits to investing in dana function research? well, discuss that after the re ah, look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except where such order to conflict with the 1st law of the patient. we should be

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a little bit hole mark on that. so what are the benefits of gain of function research? are there any while some re surgery, claim that g of up experiments can help test scientific theories develop new technologies and find treatments for infectious diseases. the purpose is to focus on pandemic pathogens to be prepared for a response and develop counter measures. so for example, when the original sars outbreak happened, researchers developed a method to grow the virus in mice. so they could study it. and this work led to a model for researching the buyers and testing potential vaccines and treatments which benefited the medical community greatly. all their benefits included, creating more salt and drought resistance plans or modifying disease factors to produce mosquitoes that are resistant to transmitting dang,

gay fever. g of s is also useful for modifying e call i so that it can convert plastic waste into a valuable commodity. however, these experiences come with a high degree of risk. some potential outcomes of this research may include the creation of pathogens that are more transmissible or more virulent than the original. other examples include engineering organisms that can evade current detection methods and available treatments or bro. in other parts of an organisms or even have the ability to cross the blood brain barrier. now in the wake of the coven, 1900 pandemic countries are now planning to build more than 40 high level bio safety labs around the world, including in india, philippines, and singapore. but what other costs associated with maintaining these bio safety level? 3 and 4 facilities. now,

roughly 10 percent of the labs budget actually goes towards the experiments. the other staggering 90 percent of the budget is spent on checking, maintaining, and repairing the facility. when instruments break, they cost a lot to fix and everything going in and out has very strict safety protocols. a b s l for facility in texas receive close to 12000000 dollars a year from the national institute of allergy and factious diseases just for maintenance and operations alone. $2000000.00 of which is spent on 24 hours security. another 2000000 is required to power the ventilation, heating ac and negative air pressure and portions of the lab. and these facilities can become like giant white elephants when it's not used and as a very big money thing. and while building in developing nations like manila or the philippines can be much cheaper than building the same facility in the u. s. there is

a big problem with the education and training. these labs handle high risk contaminants, and scientists often struggle to find well trained lab staff to run high contaminant facilities. a survey of lab practices in the philippines found that bio safety officers had only a weak understanding of bio safety. doctor john brozowski medical doctor at the washington pain center is joining us again to discuss the benefits or not again of function research. so dr. are there any benefits to gain a function research, or is it only a tool to developing weapons? and can this type of research lead to any medical breakthroughs? well, yeah, i mean, but everything is a double edged sword. you know, whether it's on any sort of medications that there can be good, but they could also be used to kill people. and same with this, you know, technology, technology is always where we always learn about things. we always do learning, we can compare, you know, prepare for the future of what,

what might happen. but again, if you want to have someone that areas to then change something, you know genetically in the code of a virus and then release it. will that great idea can also be used as a weapon. it really depends whose hand and it's in. and what is the overall intent as a country or as a scientist? and that's why it's very, you know, it's very controversial. and we need tremendous oversight in this field of study. and what is the social and political cost of this type of research? well, social cost might be the coven $19.00, or the source code b to virus, because it was thought that perhaps this was not something that naturally occurring out of a bad cave out. and you know, thailand, you know, a wet market, you know, usually when you have viruses that were, do not, that means comes from an animal or usually a by a human. and then there's a human host and then pass on to other humans. that's never been found. there's no

human host that's been found where they'll jump from the bat to the sweat market. and that's where they kept talking about. but you know, in the went market, i think it was like maybe 40 or maybe 100 meters away was a p for that's a high grade ology lab that was looking at gain a function. and what were they looking at? they were looking at that corona viruses. so maybe that's just a coincidence. i don't know, but it's something that probably should be looked at to, to make sure you know, what are we doing and, and so that, you know, you saw what happened in the past 18 months. what happened to society at large? basically the plant stopped no commerce, no travel, no socialization, isolation, tremendous effects on you know, human psyche. the individual won't. importantly, economically, i mean, it, trillions of dollars have been loss. businesses have been lost, et cetera. so i mean that that is a tremendous social experiment that happened,

that we can actually look x if something does go live as a potential. now, in the past decade, the u. s. has developed oversight for research that could be directly misused for nefarious purposes. does a system like that work and what happens when there are bad actors like eco help who conceal their actual research and misuse funds and ways that goes against what it was intended for? well, that's what we have oversight. and at the end, the day we need to hold people accountable, we just can't say are well, now like next time, oh shucks i made a mistake and then move on. we cannot move on. i mean, this are very dangerous pathogens that we're dealing with. other jobs or viruses or anything. and if something is done it for a nefarious reason, those individuals like company must be held not only liable in terms of financial, but also perhaps jail time. you know,

because there's got to be some sort of penalty for doing this. i mean, look what happened to the planet related to gain a function and whether it wasn't intended. but we did this and we didn't mean that to happen. but again, we have to be incredibly cautious and we have to start having these, you know, time conversations because we need to bring it to other people's attention that this was really serious. less understand, was this truly a natural occurring virus? things happen. ok, fine. we can learn from that was the something that we actually funded and funding that we did this to our own, you know, economy. we did this to the planets and world economy. and to this, to this many people and how many people, billions of people are killed by vaccinations and all that. that is a big question that should be investigated. and let's see where it goes. and finally, do you think gain a function? research should continue and how should it be regulated and monitored so that it is actually beneficial? lucille,

it's tina functions you're taking in innocuous virus changing and genetic genetically to soup it up to make it more pathogenic. more deadly. like the bad corona buyers had really no way of getting into human or sticking to the human cells and things like that. they had ha, change the genetic code to make a spike, poke protein to then make it lethal and see where we got it. so again, i think the whole idea is where we're going to do these to viruses, to see what happens and then we can be prepared. i think that's a good story. i'm not sure if that's, you know, well intended and perhaps it should just be outlawed because there's more harm than good. i'm just like with, with a thing like, you know, genetic changing of genes for a baby. what we want to prevent down syndrome. what else does that lead to always? blue eyed babies are born on, you know, male babies are born or things like that. just to be really cautious when we deal with genetic material, because we cannot plague god and these matters. and again, if it's natur occurring, we can deal with that,

and there's no reason to soup up these viruses that could be incredibly lethal, that we may not have an answer for very quickly because it could change the world on a dime, as we've seen. thank you so much, dr. browse k for your insight. are there any real winners here when it comes to gain a function research? well, the consumer would be winning if g o that research led to any medical breakthroughs . but in the meantime, the biggest winners either by our researchers who are now in a position to receive additional funding as investments and bio safety, lots often follow major epidemics. now the other big winner here is of course, the pharmaceuticals who are swooping in with the cure to save everybody from these virulent diseases. pfizer report a 92 percent operational growth in revenue to $81000000000.00 for 2021. madana brought in $18000000000.00 in revenue for the company in 2021, and

a total of nearly $1000000000.00 of us taxpayer money was poured into research for vaccines. so unfortunately, it seems i, when it comes to bio security research, the agencies involved are not very transparent. there are now calls for more oversight and for the risks and benefits of the funded experiments to be shared. openly. projects must be fully disclosed and evaluated for their risks, and this would go a long way into improving public trust and science and the, and i age, which has been declining during the pandemic. i'm christy, i thanks for watching and we'll see you right back here next time on the cost of everything. ah ah, in the 1950s, the u. s. used former nazis against the soviet union in the 21st century. they

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