ah, it seems these days to me anyway, like there's every day another group of countries who are for gina coalition to see if there really is strength in numbers, right? you know what they're finding, what, what they're finding is there really is strength the numbers. it used to be that the superpowers had to invite you to be part of one of these groupings, like, for example, and my part of the world b, o, a and the organization of american states, you know, which is really controlled by the united states, right? most would argue, still is, or the organization i'm not ally nations that ended up being kind of on the align side, not the non aligned side. today though, and this is important because this gives us a sense of where we are and where things are heading. there seem to be more a lot more there. you know, obviously the big ones are, you know,

there's also bricks. there's nafta, there's co mesa, which interestingly enough brings together all of the countries in eastern and southern africa. that specific. and then there's that one that we want to focus on today because this is really the breakout one, right? it's called off eod, not asian asi on a s e a. it's the association of southeast asian nations. and the grouping by the way, regional countries, once again, they include brunei, cambodia, indonesia, louse, malaysia, me and mar, the philippines. second port thailand and you know, vietnam. they have a population of almost 3 quarters of a 1000000000 people. and a g d, p of $3.00 trillion dollars. that's the big the reason that these countries are so important is because together,

they're now so powerful enough to matter, especially economically that all recent reports seem to show that, well, our economy here in the united states where we are in our nation's capital. i'm a block from the white house, from where i speak to you. and in fact, other western nations, you know, europe, for example, economies in the next year, possibly the next year to we're going to be stagnant, meaning it will actually contract throughout the year while. and here's the payoff, right? the economies of these i see on countries these aussie on nations are going to hit record growth levels according to many adults. i mean, talk about a, you're gonna yeah, right? now we don't know what's actually going to happen, but that's what a lot of economists are predicting them, predicting that there's going to be a real big difference. what that gives them, by the way, is essentially a vaulted position one they're using now to assert themselves. and push

back against, for example, western rules and convention. in fact, it's appearing. and this is, i think, kind of key. all the countries are moving toward an alliance. now, not just geographically because they always have because they're in that region. but more of a real alliance with china. why? well, because what it, what it seems that they're looking for is a very interesting word that really comes into play these days. when you look at the global picture, it's called pragmatism. i san community was finally launched on 31st december 2015. the is point the region to be a politically cohesive, economically integrated, and socially responsible community. currently, it is proud to be one of the fastest growing consumer markets and biggest economy

in the world. and what do we mean by the word pragmatism? what i say that? well, i guess we have to start by looking at ourselves, right? the, my country, our country from where we are now, the u. s. has long been and still is the big dog in the race when it comes to global leadership. there's no question, however, of late because of economic conditions out of you from many countries that we too often lead with a clenched fist. especially when it comes to the use of our military and our need to solve military weapons. infrastructure can loosen that edge kind of losing that edge. china, on the other hand, is leading with infrastructure, key infrastructure. it goes in the countries with the aim of building mega infrastructure projects in every country, in every region that it can touch with these deals with these nations,

like ozzy on these regional groupings. in most cases, by the way, that is money that they then lend to those countries. so it's not like they're doing it for free or anything. don't get me wrong. so far though, this, this plan, this, this thing they're doing well, it seems to be working. you know, what's interesting about all of this, it's interesting that this is happening, this whole thing with r c on, despite the fact that the u. s. has been courting countries, president biden himself leading the reception. you might remember this mean, do the asi on countries respect the u. s. as vaulted position, as you see them, they're playing, follow the leader as president biden brings them all out in this ceremony they had at the white house, this reception. well, of course they do, of course, nobody saying that they don't respect the united states,

that they're not going to be working with the united states. this is going to continue, but what they also know is that the us is no longer the only game in town. no longer the only game in town. in fact, the same could be said these days about many of these regional blocks all the way from the middle east through africa. and of course, my backyard, latin america. joining us now to talk about this is a former foreign minister of austria. koreen can, isaac is a political and list to serve as austria as foreign minister from 2017 to 2019. and she's good enough to join us now because she is really smart when it comes to this stuff. so we're so glad that we have her here, dr. can i so thanks so much for, for joining us. it's, it's really nice to have you here why com? thank you very much for the invitation. ready let's start with aussie and i find that grouping fascinating, because the more i read about them,

the more that i realize they're a well pardon my ignorance perhaps. but one of those regional groupings that i never paid a lot of attention to, but lately they've been coming up a lot and they've been becoming very, very important. and they're getting the attention of a lot of countries, including, as you saw in that video from president biden. what is it about them that's putting them in this, in this voltage space? if i, if i can use that term. well, as i keep saying for at least 20 years or pipelines and airlines are moving east, the music is playing in the east, not in the west, and there are many voices. so i pointed to the fact that to the 21st century istation century and going his engage jojo with, say, china, us, china is so close to giants, but that is so co tiger states as we used to call them actor already back in the late 19 eighties, i give them an amazing country by itself. amazing society. i had the privilege to

teach once upon a time in what you mean city for months i gone then. so was one of my most impressive i experienced this was a young academia because at dad they're just curious debt, eager to learn the uncertainty in every respect. and this is something that, that i'm interesting in many western universities. sandra, it goes from academia to companies, to the corporate world. i used to ega, i, instance thirsty, i, you're ready to, to renounce on something in order to, to advance. and that this is definitely more the case in many societies, was in ozzy and then was in the european union for instance, do you think that come, you mentioned vietnam? so, i mean, that's a big, powerful economy right now, binding some 1000000 people and an economy that compares to some of the biggest in the world these days. oh, do you think a country like vietnam throw in malaysia, throw in all the other countries in the asi regional grouping?

do they understand now that they're togetherness? and then add to that on association with china. makes a much more powerful than if and here's the interesting part of my question than if they had avoided china or maybe not avoided them, but not necessarily relied on so much. relied with them so much and stayed. busy more with the united states have they have that clicked? do you think in their heads was, this is a topic that has been under debate for, for quite some time. i mean, we have to catch word of decoupling from china when it comes to united states, which is also forcing other countries into taking a distance from china and not being too dependent. not being too interconnected on a new form of the globalization. and for the other countries which shows through

that your graphic, proximity, history, demographic bonds are much more connected to the people's republic of china. then come to small to the west and they are in a court my of course because decoupling is, is inaugural for them. for many, many reasons. i mean, it starts with chinese investments of whether it's fired about and wrote initiative . it goes to soft power of china, wire deed tourism, a sports industry. you name it, you have it where there's a deep interconnectedness a connection between china and, and those tighter states. and of course you also have japan, which is the kind of arrival in that and you have india. mm. as the decoupling process that washington wants to see is a shadow hanging over that visit the current situation at all. for many of

those are in states, it's question where to turn to but i'm pretty sure data geography, which is always the constant fact of history will have a decisive role in that doctor. stay when you are. i'm going to come back to you in just a minute. i want to continue the conversation. but by the way, i do invite you to check out my podcast. it's called the rick sanchez podcast. katcha. it's global and you can find it wherever you get your podcasts. and when we come back to saudis, what, what their sudden fascination with president g, like his elders, probably right. black blue, blue, blue,

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ah ah ah, talk about this as direct impact. i'm rick sanchez. so recently i don't know if you've noticed or not, but there has been a almost a brome, hence, of sorts between the saudi arabia and china. more specifically, between prince mohammad been solomon and the president g. a. 1 there gatherings, their conversations have been quite public, and it's become very clear that saudi arabia wants to continue to do deals with china. they are collaborating on trade. ah, economic military agreements. i mean to the tune of tens of billions of dollars by the way. which for the saudis, i guess is not that much product you put in fact, as we peruse some of the images of the meetings that we've seen between these 2

countries, between these 2 leaders, these 2 men, what we see is a lot of pomp and a lot of circumstance, right, lot of pomp and circumstance. but when president biden back when president biden went to react, right, not president g, but president button the reception was actually kind of dry. it was in fact referred to as a no frills reception. so one can't help but ask them this goes against historic, right, what is the signal that the saudis are trying to send with this? and joining us now to talk about this is a dr canal, who is the former foreign minister of austria. knows a lot about this particular topic because she is a very keen on the middle east in particular. so let's talk about saudi arabia. i am always fascinated by saudi review, what they do and what they don't do. but i was very fascinated by making this

comparison, which is why don't why i wanted to show this video. i'm almost thinking they trade they treated or have been treating president g as if he were a u. s. president. if you know what i mean? yes, yes. well everybody of us remember, so maybe the pictures back in 2018, was it when? uh, president trump made his 1st visit abroad, not to canada, not to mexico. no, he went sold to saudi arabia and, and did they do it was quite there. a warm, cordial atmosphere, dancing and, and swinging, and, and, and cheering, and it had its, its results. but, oh, you, you, you reminded us of the rather cool reception that our president biden received a few months ago. and the, what is, what happened now this time in terms of

a drew state were said by president she is the following, the, the chinese her belong in my assessment with a very few who still take time for with it. i know there the westerners have just kind of instant meetings, very short, very awe, very concise, and it did of who doesn't leave space and time to really have a profound conversation and to build something like trust. now president, she came to saudi arabia for full 3 days. i think that white was, it was, was a few hours, not, not even a day. i'm president, she does is another story came, for instance, to serbia, which is her small 1000 eastern country in, in, in europe. he, he was there for 5 days. you know, most of a european officials talk a lot about the importance of serbia for the european union, but the never spend more than an hour dubia. ah,

so the chinese will take time for their wizards. also when they receive guests. and it's not only about protocol, but it's really about building trust. and this is a good old school diplomacy which can, is it's resolved center. so this is read, they was, it was rich and every, regardless, not only upon before to call, it was not only about ceremonial decor that, that's a leaf, it's traces and the perception, no, no the, the and that now a genuine strategic partnership. and i know that the word strategic partnership pests has become inflationary. it sits over used, but in that sense, we can really call it as strategic partnership. it's about $30000000000.00 investment is about investment in artificial intelligence, high tech nuclear, and it's cheaper that also was already on the agenda back in 2016 when she came for

the 1st time. and what i would say um for my personal assessment is, is the one thing that really changed the road to day little bit is that rather than she suggested in this china or up grade forum, which was attended by about 30 half of states from the arab world and to used to shanghai, treat a stock exchange market for and, and she agreements and to have the you on introduced in there and she agreements. so i knew at all it sort of commodities which we use for an a t. what it's, i gas lease young. everything is traded in u. s. dollar u. s. dollar is commodity trade currency. and there have been changes over the years. i wrote about that 15 years ago. i was always keen into the topic. will i be traded one day in and why i knew basket will betrays maybe even in goldhill. so

no, this is we up, this is, i gotta stop you here cuz this is fascinating. what you are, what, what you just said. i mean on it's almost as if, if i was sitting at the white house right now or at the state department or maybe more the us treasury. and i was watching these conversations that have been taking place between gee and other countries. but more specifically the saudis, i mean they're the mat daddy's a while money. i would think these conversations would make me think of 2 things. swift possibly coming to some kind of roll down or, and even, and the dollarization actually being something that could start to happen more in earnest despite the fact that everybody talks about it with these 2 guys talking about that thing that you just said, am i wrong? yeah, well it's, it's a topic dentist has been around for quite some time

a few months ago. even the financial times carried an article on his so everybody had paid attention to it. i even the f t is talking about the dollarization in a very serious way. but when we break it down to the figures, of course the figures for the time being still there was a different story. the dollar covers about 42 percent of world trade, the u on the chinese, a currency is in charge of something like 3.6 percent before trade. i think 35 percent go to to the euro, but things can change very quickly because a currency, it's built on trust. it's all about trust. otherwise it's colored money. it's colored paper and the so what is the back up of that currency and what, what is the basis of the trust and is a currency backed up by a sal, potential of,

of economic activity of commodities, or like, is the case of for, for, for the russian currency, rubel that is backed up by commodities. and, and what does this mean for the future financial system? i wrote an article a few months ago in which i claim that that bottom line of my text was you can print money. look at quantitative easing a, everything that has been happening ever since they're abandoning of the dollar standards in the seventy's in the u. s. but you cannot print energy. and i think some people world have understood that. so you managed to swift and which is a very powerful tool we have seen it was the reason sanctions. and so what we are in currently is the power of the financial market of insurance market not to be forgot one week because it is sanctions couldn't happen the way to happen if there

hadn't been also the role of insurance companies and most of them have their company seeds in london, in frankfort in switzerland. so it's a, it's a lot of western hemisphere monopoly insurance market if you want. and we have on the other hand, at the region that has space, it's wells on commodities, but wants to go beyond that. and then in the middle east or west asia, whatever we want to call it, let's call it more west asia because we are turning into a new period. and those are the notion of middle east as i was claim it's, it's a very euro centric perception because from a london perspective, it was the middle east from a john perspective, post them year, easter, the nato, austin, and from a she from a very, a proper geographic perception, it's part of age. it's west asia. sh and say,

here we have to asian powerhouse china, and we have for the west asian commodity producers. so all saw the arab gulf states . so i and you chapter has opened the last 3 days and it's also interesting to put that into the lodge. a picture of china and iran and iraq and saudi arabia because, but their enemy, robert albert but, but they are mortal enemies. how in the world is that going to work out? how can china straddle that line up? well, it didn't, they, they do it, and this is dest. this is the very interesting part about it, because, unfortunately, u. s. diploma saved freedom, he put it down to inverted comma gene. i was always about either with us or against us and it's either or but really lemme see successful diplomacy. it's not either org with inclusive and yeah, it's inclusive. it, it has, it has to be inclusive,

it has to be, we, you know, if i'm doing a business deal with you, a doctor, i would say to you, i want you to hear out my competition and see what they offer you and come back and i'm going to try and beat that. i'm going to try and make you happier than they can make you happy, and if they make you happier them, you know, maybe in the future will do business. it's not either you do business with me or i'm never going to talk to you again with the vendors, but it's, it's like what you mentioned earlier. i happen to be latino. so i come from latin america in our world. if you come to do business with me, you better get you better spend some time with me. you're going to be my, my wife and my mother and my family and my kids. and i'm going to meet yours. it's not about just sitting down and wrapping things out. so in that sense there, there is almost even a cultural tie to some of the things that you have been telling us. we are out of time professor doctor, this is been a really important conversation. thanks so much for joining us. you are a delight to talk to him. we'll certainly know your field as to love his stuff. he

well meant that he wanted me to reach out as yes ah, i want to take this a moment now to remind you of our mission here on this show, it's simple really what we want to do is kind of de silo the world. it's colleague what we were just talking about a moment ago with the good doctor. you gotta stop living in these little boxes that we create for ourselves cuz truth don't live in boxes. they're everywhere. memory sanchez, and we're looking for you again right here, where i hope to provide a direct impact. ah

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