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food and medicine in supplies and fleet with ah, everybody. i'm rick sanchez. you know, after covering news all over the world founding a $1000000000.00 company, i'm here to tell you, well, as much as i possibly can tell it like it is. so welcome to what we call direct impact. it seems these days to me anyway, like there's every day another group of countries who are forging a coalition to see if there really is strength in numbers, right? you know what they're finding, what they're finding is there really is strike the numbers. is it used to be with

the superpowers had to invite you to be part of one of these groupings, like, for example, and my part of the world, the yo and the organization of american states. you know, which is really controlled by the united states, right? most would argue, still is, or the organization of not ally nations that ended up being kind of on the align side, not them on a line side. today though, and this is important because this gives us a sense of where we are and where things are heading. there seem to be more a lot more there. you know, obviously the big ones. there's a, you know, there's also bricks. there's nasa, there's coll mesa, which interestingly enough brings together all of the countries in eastern and southern africa. that specific. and then there's that one that we want to focus on today because this is really the breakout one, right? it's called off, eod, not asian asi on a s e a n. it's the association of southeast asian nations. this grouping,

by the way, regional countries, once again, they include brunei, cambodia, indonesia, louse, malaysia, me and mar the philippines. second for thailand and you know, the now they have a population of almost 3 quarters of a 1000000000 people and a g d p of 3.2 trillion dollars. that's the big the reason that these countries are so important is because together, they're now so powerful enough to matter, especially economically that all reset reports seem to show that while our economy here in the united states where we are in our nation's capital law, i'm a block from the white house, from where i speak to you. and in fact, other western nations, you know, europe, for example, economies in the next year,

possibly the next year to are going to be stagnant, meaning it will actually contract throughout the year while. and here's the payoff, right, the economies of these i see on countries, these asi on nations. i'm going to hit record growth levels. according to many adults, i mean, talk about a yank right? now we don't know what's actually going to happen, but that's what a lot of economists are prediction predicting that there's going to be a real big difference. what that gives them, by the way, is essentially a vaulted position one they're using now to assert themselves and push back against, for example, western rules and conventions. in fact, it's appearing. and this is, i think kind of key asi on countries are moving toward on alliance. now, not just geographically cuz they always have cars or in that region. but more of a real alliance with china. why?

well, because what it, what it seems that they're looking for is a very interesting word that really comes into play these days. when you look at the global picture, it's called pragmatism. i. san community was finally launched on 31st december 2015. the is point the region to be politically cohesive economy, cli integrated and socially responsible community. currently, it is proud to be one of the fastest growing consumer markets and biggest economy in the world. and what do we mean by the word pragmatism? what i say that? well, i guess we have to start by looking at ourselves, right? the, my country, our country from where we are now, the u. s. has long been and still is the big dog in the race when it comes to global leadership. there's no question, however,

of late because of economic conditions and of you from many countries that we too often lead with a clenched fist. especially when it comes to the use of our military and our need to solve military weapons and infrastructure. kind of losing that edge, kind of losing that edge. china, on the other hand, is leading with infrastructure, key infrastructure. it goes in the countries with the aim of building mag, i infrastructure projects in every country in every region that it can touch with these deals with these nations, like ozzy on these regional groupings in most cases, by the way, that is money that they then lend to those countries, so it's not like they're doing it for free or anything. don't get me wrong. so far though this, this plan, this, this thing they're doing well. it seems to be working you know, what's interesting about all of this, it's interesting that this is happening. this whole thing with our fee on,

despite the fact that the u. s. has been courting countries, president biden himself leading the reception. you might remember this mean, do the aussie on countries respect the u. s. as vaulted position, as you see them, they're playing follow the leader as president biden brings them all out in this ceremony they had at the white house this reception. well, of course they do, of course, nobody saying that they don't respect the united states, that they're not going to be working with the united states. this is going to continue, but what they also know is that the us is no longer the only game in town, no longer the only game in town. in fact, the same could be said these days about many of these regional blocks all the way from the middle east through africa. and of course, my backyard, latin america. joining us now to talk about this is

a former foreign minister of austria. koreen can, isaac is a political and list to serve as austria as foreign minister from 2017 to 2019. and she's good enough to join us now because she is really smart when it comes to this stuff. so we're so glad that we have her here, dr. can i so thanks so much for, for joining us. it's, it's really nice to have you her why com? thank you very much for the invitation. let's start with aussie and i find that grouping fascinating, because the more i read about them, the more that i realize they're well, pardon my ignorance perhaps. but one of those regional groupings that i never paid a lot of attention to. but lately they've been coming up a lot and they've been becoming very, very important. and they're getting the attention of a lot of countries, including, as you saw in that video from president biden, what is it about them that's putting them in this, in this voltage space? if i, if i can use that term well,

as i keep saying for at least 20 years or pipelines and airlines and moving east, that music is playing in the east, not in the west. and there are many voices. so i pointed to the fact that to the 21st century istation century angling has engage jojo with say, china, us, china is seth cost giant. but that is so co tag and states as we used to call them actor, already back in the late 19 eighties. i give them an amazing country by itself. amazing society. i had the privilege to teach once upon a time in what you mean city from us. i gone then. so was one of my most impressive i experienced with was a young academia, bukosa and dad. they're just curious, debt, eager to learn their thirsty in every respect. and this is something that, that i'm interesting in many western universities. sandra, it goes from academia to companies, to the corporate world. i used to iga i austin,

sir, city i, you're ready to, to renounce on something in order to, to advance. and this is definitely more the case in many societies. was in avi and then was in the european union for instance, do you think that come, you mentioned vietnam? so, i mean, that's a big, powerful economy right now. mine been some 1000000 people and an economy that compares to some of the biggest in the world. these days, oh, do you think a country like vietnam throw in malaysia, throw in all the other countries in the oxy regional grouping? do they understand now that they're togetherness? and then add to that on association with china makes a much more powerful than if, and here's the interesting part of my question than if they had avoided china or maybe not avoided them, but not necessarily relied on so much. relied with them so much and stayed. busy

more with the united states have, have they have that clicked? do you think in their heads was, this is a topic that has been under debate for, for quite some time. i mean, we have to catch word of decoupling from china when it comes to united states, which is also forcing other countries into taking a distance from china and not being too dependent. not being too interconnected on a new form of the globalization. and for the other countries which shows through that your graphic, proximity, history, demographic bonds are much more connected to the people's republic of china. then come to small to the west and they are in a court my of course because decoupling is, is inaugural for them. for many, many reasons. i mean, it starts with chinese investments of whether it's fired about and wrote initiative . it goes to soft power of china, wire deed tourism,

and sports industry. you name it, you have it where there's a deep interconnectedness a connection between china and, and those tighter states. and of course you also have japan, which is the kind of arrival in that and you have india. mm. as the decoupling process that washing wants to see is a shadow hanging over the if, if the current situation that of many of those on states it's question where to turn to but i'm pretty sure data geography, which is always the cost effective history, will have a decisive role in that doctor stay. when you are, i'm going to come back to you in just a minute. i want to continue the conversation. by the way, i do invite you to check out my podcast. it's called the rick sanchez podcast.

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gatherings and rallies with your colleagues, and perhaps also your friends think you're guilty because you don't russia you much and i are the bomb. so what my doom was ma'am, it's all that detail. glad to with these b u t. a minute. so let conceptually bite you from the citric service on the consent. talk about this as direct impact. i'm rick sanchez. so recently, i don't know if you've noticed or not, but there has been a almost a brome, pets of sorts between the saudi arabia and china. more specifically,

between prince mohammad been solomon and the president g o there gatherings. their conversations have been quite public and it's become very clear that saudi arabia wants to continue to do deals with the china. they are collaborating on trade economic military agreements. i mean to the tune of tens of billions of dollars by the way, which for the saudis, i guess is not that much product you put. in fact, as we peruse some of the images of the meetings that we've seen between these 2 countries, between these 2 leaders, these 2 ma'am, what we see is a lot of pomp and a lot of circumstance, right, lot of pomp and circumstance. but when president biden back when president biden went to react, right, not president g, but president button, the reception was actually kind of dry. it was in fact referred to as a no frills reception. so one can't help but ask ben,

this goes against historic, right? what is the signal that the saudis are trying to send with this? and joining us now to talk about this is dr. canario, who is the former foreign minister of austria, knows a lot about this particular topic because she has a very keen on the middle east in particular. so let's talk saudi arabia. i am always fascinated by saudi arabia and what they do and what they don't do, but i was very fascinated by making this comparison, which is why don't why i wanted to show this video. i'm almost thinking they trade they treated or have been treating president g as if he were. are you as president? if you to what i mean? yes. yes. well, everybody of us remember, maybe the pictures back in 2018 was it when a president trump made his 1st visit abroad, not to canada, not to mexico? no, he went still to saudi arabia and, and did they do it was quite there. a warm,

cordial atmosphere, dancing and, and swinging, and, and, and cheering, and it had its, its results. but, oh, you, you reminded us of the rather cool reception that president biden received a few months ago. and the, what is, what happened now this time in terms of a drew state were said by president she is the following, the, the chinese a belong in my assessment with a very few who still take time for visits. and oh, there the westerners have this kind of instant meetings, very short, very awe, very concise. and it did often doesn't leave space and time to really have a profound conversation and to build something like trust. now president,

she came to saudi arabia for full 3 days. i think why it was, it was, was issue hours, not, not even a day. i'm president, she does is another story came, for instance, to serbia, which is her small 1000 eastern country in, in, in europe. he, he was there for 5 days, you know, most of a european officials talk a lot about the importance of serbia for the european union, but the never spend more than an hour rubia. ah, so the chinese really take time for the wizards or the when they receive guests, and it's not only about protocol, but it's really about building trust. and this is a good old school diplomacy which can is its resolves and so, so the st. they was, it was rich and every regard, it was not on a pod for to call. it was not only about ceremonial ah decor, that, that's a leaf. it's trace isn't the perception, no, the, the, the, and that now

a general strategic partnership. and i know that the word strategic partnership pests has become inflationary it's, it's over used. but in that sense, we can really call it a strategic partnership. it's about $30000000000.00 investment is about investment in artificial intelligence, high tech, nuclear, and achieve that all the was already on the agenda back in 2016 when she came for the 1st time. and what i would say um, for my personal assessment is if, if the one thing that really changed the road to day little bit is that rather than she suggested in this china or up grade forum, which was attended by about sir, t hat's of state from the arab world and to used to shanghai, treat a stock exchange market for anne and she agreements and to have the you on introduced in their energy agreements. so at all the thought of

commodities which we use for energy, what it's i gas lease young. everything is traded in us dollars. yeah. you asked all like the commodity trade currency and the have been changes over the years. i wrote about that 15 years ago. i was always keen into the topic her will oil betrayed it one day, him and why i knew basket will, it betrays maybe even in gold til so no, this is we up, this is i gotta stop you here cuz this is fascinating. what you are, what, what you just said. i mean on it's almost as if, if i was sitting at the white house right now or at the state department, or maybe more the us treasury. and i was watching these conversations that have been taking place between gee and other countries, but more specifically the saudis, i mean, they're the mat daddy's a while money. i would think these conversations would make me think of 2 things.

swift possibly coming to some kind of roll down or, and even, and the dollarization actually being something that could start to happen more in earnest despite the fact that everybody talks about it with these 2 guys talking about that thing that you just said, am i wrong? yeah, well it's, it's a topic dentist has been around for quite some time a few months ago. even the financial times carried an article on his so everybody had paid attention to it. i even the f t is talking about the dollarization in a very serious way. but when we break it down to the figures, of course the figures for the time being still there was a different story. the dollar covers about 42 percent of world trade, the u on the chinese, a currency is in charge of something like 3.6 percent for trade. i think

35 percent go to the euro, but things can change very quickly because a currency, it's built on trust. it's all about trust. otherwise it's colored money. it's colored paper and the so what is the back up of that currency and what, what is the basis of the trust and is a currency backed up by a sal, potential of, of economic activity of commodities, or like, is the case of for, for, for the russian currency, rubel that is backed up by commodities. and, and what does this mean for the future financial system? i wrote an article a few months ago in which i claim that the bottom line of my text was you can print money. look at quantitative easing a, everything that has been happening ever since they're abandoning of the dollar

standards in the seventy's in the us. but you cannot print energy. and i think some people world have understood that. so you managed to swift and which is a very powerful tool we have seen it was the reason sanctions. and so what we are in currently is the power of the financial market of insurance market not to be forgot one week because it is sanctions couldn't happen the way to happen if there hadn't been also the role of insurance companies and most of them have their company seeds in london, in frankfort in switzerland. so it's a, it's a north western hemisphere, monopoly insurance market if you want. and we have on the other hand, at the region that has space, it's wells on commodities, but wants to go beyond that. and then in the middle east or west asia, whatever we want to call it, let's call it more west asia because we are turning into

a new period. and those are the notion of middle east as i was claim it's, it's a very euro centric perception because from a london perspective, it was the middle east, from a john perspective for the new easter than i house. and from a she from a very proper geographic perception. it's part of asia, it's west asia. sh and say, here we have to asians, powerhouse china. and we have the west asia, commodity producers, so all saw the out gulf states. so i and you chapter has opened the last 3 days. and it's also interesting to book that the intro to launch a picture of china and iran and iraq and saudi arabia because, but their enemy, robert albert but, but they are mortal enemies. how in the world is that going to work out? how can china straddle that line up?

well, it didn't, they, they do it and it isn't. there is the very interesting part about it, because unfortunately, us diploma safe freedom. he put it down to inverted comma gene. i was always about either with us or against us and it's either or, but really good. lemme see, successful diplomacy. it's not either org with inclusive and yeah, it's inclusive, it, it has, it has to be inclusive, it has to be, we, you know, if i'm doing a business deal with you, a doctor, i would say to you, i want you to hear out my competition and see what they offer you and come back and i'm going to try and beat that. i'm going to try and make you happier than they can make you happy, and they make you happier them, you know, maybe in the future will do business. it's not either you do business with me or i'm never going to talk to you again with the vendors that it's, it's like what you mentioned earlier. i happen to be latino. so i come from latin

america in our world. if you come to do business with me, you better get you better spend some time with me. you're going to be my, my wife and my mother and my family and my kids. and i'm going to meet yours. it's not about just sitting down and wrapping things out. so in that sense there, there is almost even a cultural tie to some of the things that you have been telling us. we are out of time professor doctor, this is been a really important conversation. thanks so much for joining us. you are a delight to talk to him. we'll certainly know your field. i love you. i mean to you want to does yes. i want to take this moment now to remind you of our mission here on this show. it's simple, really what we want to do is kind of be silo the world. it's kind of like what we were just talking about a moment ago with the good doctor. you know, we've got to stop living in these little boxes that we create for ourselves because just don't live in boxes. they're everywhere. some exemptions are we looking for you again right here, where i hope to provide

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