tv Documentary RT February 25, 2023 9:00pm-9:31pm EST
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ah, a i was standing in an alley smoking a joint one day and a man came up to me and pulled the joint from my mouth and he said, don't you know that that's what the capitalists and the jews want you to do. we are violent towards those people because we believe that we're the superior race. we're here 1st and this is our pantry, guns, ammo, steel, tow. doc martens, tattooing violence. just just prerequisite to enter or exit 3 walked off. like i
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give you this looking to cease about the fear, like he fear me, being part of that movement, i got to feel a sense of power. when i felt powerless, i got attention when i felt invisible and accepted when i felt that level we had a strategy, we wanted to clean our image up and make our message more palatable to the masses. don't get tattoos don't shape your head. don't get arrested. go to college, joined the military, keep your head down, go mainstream the news
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what life after hate is an organization that was founded by for ex skinhead neo nazi white supremacist in the us and canada. and they found each other and they knew that they wanted to help other guys get out . so the idea is to get them out, make, keep them safe and get that kind of support that they need from other performers in order to stay out with . welcome. and we were thought, yeah, well, we're pioneer is where the 1st one is to do this. we're the 1st one. and quite
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frankly, probably the only ones doing it. and we're certainly the only ones driven by 100 percent formless at this point in your desire to do this is new and you don't have the experience. each of us in this room has the capability to help people where we, once we're, this isn't a path and anyone should have to do a loan. and if there are people in this room who had to do it alone in the beginning and you understand how difficult that was and what kind of critical role we can play in the lives of someone else. mm. mm. my name is frank leverage. i can show it off it got in the movement at any age, 13 or 14. in the movement i got very active, especially very violent. kidnap somebody went to prison and i was 17. as i got out of them was oklahoma city bombing that made me reach out to people to help the picture of the fireman right down the street. that, that little girl is something that will always stick with me. ended up going to
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prison for about 4 years, and i got all the skin and movement. there's meaning behind the color of the tattoo, like if it's a solid black tattoo person committed a murder and got away with hulu. i do some serious things are not safe. i get that covered up. i have to look at it. no more. went to treatment last year and when i graduate, my reached out to my pastor hadn't been involved with them doing stuff. hire portland, trying to reach out and help other people that are struggling to come out of the movement. i was involved with winery resistance, skinheads, and emerson has in san diego for 13 or 14 years. we would do gay bashing runs and we would attack people just for the color of their skin. i have left people laying there that i don't know if they lived or not. i was
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involved in the skin that seen from the mid eighty's all the way to the, to the mid ninety's. for 7 or 8 years i went through a disengagement, but i'd left the movement of the movement and left me. it was the birth of my, my daughter. you know, i get enough little girl and the delivery room and my son was born 15 months later, they saw the magnificence of me when i couldn't see it. and they gave me that gift that allowed me to, we humanized i became a gang member, spends probably about 18 years and started that kind of lifestyle in prison. june home still after surviving a race. right. became pretty violent and aggressive and started started manifesting those who towards whites as a result of that race, right? because of my role in the riot, i quickly grew within the game one of the highest ranking members in my state. i had even made a vow that if i was going to rob steele,
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pillage whatever it was going to be weiss and we start to feel special and what we're going through here and it is special, but it's not as unique as you might think. it's really a humanistic play. it's the same story. it's the same feelings. it's to human experience and hate no matter what. what flag you fly it under has a very similar approach. this inaugural gathering. performers think it's incredibly important. you know, we were able to get and so far, with just us as volunteers working together as a team and being able to handle the load that's not possible anymore. as countries in to far crisis, the we
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are being ethnically, we'd like to preserve her right to jeep this nation. the nation that are for product envision that's what we're fighting for here. everyone together. now the thing is, before the words, i want to secure the existence of the white race and the future for white children . that's what this is all about. is about stopping white genocide sobbing, multiculturalism american white working classes angry. they, they've been system magically. ignore bob. those major parties for decades. now, i'm looking at these extreme white nationalist, white supremacy or not see these guys were active in the stream, right? the very, very end of a continuum because i want to know how they went from the center and drifted off there. and ended up so far from what i consider to be the mainstream because i
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think they can tell us a lot about what's going on in the mainstream as well. why with this group that seems so privileged, feel themselves to be such victims. these guys are furious, and in many cases they're kind of right to be furious. they've been delta bad and you can understand the sense of this range without understanding the sense of entitlement that it's founded on. when i say that their anger is real, it's because they feel like they've been dispossess. something's been taken from them. a new in the language that they use. it's all a language of retrieving restoring, reclaiming your masculinity because you had it, they took it away. now you've got to get back a
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with the idea that i would ever back down to such a little creek like mayor signer that i would ever back down when the governor of the state to players say to think if they think that they don't understand what's in my heart they don't understand the all right, they don't understand this entire moving way.
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randy a sammy lane. i just wanted to check in with you see how you're doing before we come over can be so good to meet you, brother? yeah. okay. all right, great. brother will be there in a few minutes. all right. it's the hardest thing i have ever made a good time. my young 900 years was to get out of this. i was 20 is i'm now going to lose family members. mentalism, when i was every friends i've just had for the last 6 years old and they're all going to go are so just kind of recap and fresh out fresh on like i think just like he one day to the next is still questions things. but he, like he went, he didn't go through a period of questioning, has membership. he went from being in to be in all like almost instantaneous the
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same day. kind of thing. you know, he was got turned at the rally, the getting beat up. he was getting beat up through protester side of things. people were kicking him in the house and people seem to know that it's really ramp it in. the people are getting out to turn to other things, alcohol, drug, other addictions. and so, you know, it's, it's, you know, this make this clean break and it's, it's, there's going to be issues that a whole $180.00 on a lifestyle my situation when i got out it was like, i'm alone out here. like i'm completely isolated. i'm alone. and i would try to tell people what my experience was like, but no one could. we leave, you know, and it sounds like this guy that we're seeing right now is what i'm hearing is loan
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uncertainty. you know, cut off, i think happy than all the others are here. to understand what it's like to be in the movement. to understand what us like to get out of the movement. to understand what is like post change as possible. there's a way out there is life after, hey, you know, with he's got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy. even foundation, let it be an arms race is on a fence. very dramatic development. only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very difficult time time to sit down and talk with
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come grace one's a good person. the prism number still that person you know, the other mishawaka already had it not and i need you to know what i felt what i believed. felt right. love most guys in the get out. they don't keep with it. i know if i, if i have a good person, that's what i have to do to click back. oh, so how long over the whole course your life are you involved like actively as like a white supremacist michelle time? sure. it's all the time. we always make new ones, you know, make them more fashionable. usually. i know. so just one big was the on the friday . no. i, michael, i was like was becoming so was off now to kind of both had pointed up, you know, 40 from magnum, you know, long, barely, you know, it's going to take it everything inside. it kicked down. it came back, clean,
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clean shop. all you been clean now let's see what every couple years are for 3 years. you know, she know she met me all day long into life. was this unless it's why it's called nazi. know a lot of change is getting thrown at you right now. you know, yeah, yeah, a lot. look, you know, not using drugs, you know, familiarities gone and the racing was all correct if you will. when you guys been lifeline. irreplaceable. you know, you're reaching out the man, you know, you didn't, didn't, didn't do williams in the past. you know, god coming to hit me and now there wasn't, wasn't that guy. you know, god, you oh, no, not fair balls. and you know, when you called in today, we are definitely gonna be down there. they got real. got real quick. i can't
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imagine what, what, what the future holds. sure, ma'am, but if it's anything like what we're seeing up. so, you know, one of the most struggle to keep going through, you know, scares hell, but you're joining that, that, that group of men and women men who are facing the same, changed your face. right? i can't tell you how many hundreds of people who don't believe in the ideology of loss while they're in the movement are too afraid to leave or to afraid to leave for safety purposes. but they're also afraid to start over. they don't want to abandon that identity that they have or that community. and they stay in because they have nothing to go back to because they walked away from everything. when they joined up at the top. what do you think about
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a nation or political order that is racially, they are richard the what do you think of have some coffee? let's talk. okay. mike michael. hey, nice to meet me. oh no, no, no. what former show us is that you can, you can think as, as low as human beings can think in some ways you can do horrible things and you can come out the other side. you should have been so badly broken that there's no way you could come back from this. if you did so can have that right. so can you, if you are going to pretend that this is simply an intellectual exercise, and you don't speak to the visceral experience that these guys have in the movement, you won't be able to reach that violence was fairly new to me. i know at the beginning i certainly enjoyed the adrenalin rush and the ability to instill fear in
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people that was like the water to some of the wandering, the desert correlated factor, and someone joining about when the extremist group with child trauma abuse could be coming from a broken home and drugs and alcohol. my case of it was abandonment. going out the foster care my whole life and being physically abused as a kid by my an uncle and my cousins and stuff. and i was fighting since i was a kid, you know. and i grew up in the streets. i know my father loved us very much, but i didn't get to see him a whole lot when i was 10 walked in on him with another woman. and then bang, that's when the god fell off the pedestal. we started to act out at school and to go down this rabbit whole of, of defiance and anger and confuse i was very confused in my dad. you know, i used to be like another guy being another guy. and barbara, know,
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i walk in and you know, it's not in basically knocked me out with a punch. i'm out fade, the black. they form very unhealthy identity about themselves. they're not good enough. they're not smart enough. they're not pretty enough. they're on level. they're less than all my friends in the gang as a young kid, as a young man as an older man. we all have very similar experiences. nobody use words like trauma or abuse or child abuse abandoned man. my father wasn't there for me. no one could talk about that. it was just like we, we stuff it, we suppress it. the shame was, i think, compiled with humiliation. if you couldn't put it away and you couldn't be violent, we live our lives. and until we heal that shame in reaction to in another way is to adopt an ideology which tells you you're greater that that's what i did feel like other people think they're not. and here's
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a group that comes along to we think you are something that we think you're better, your special it was my family. it was my identity, it became the person who i was for 8 years. i found comfort and mostly because i was angry at myself and my parents and being a part of a hate movement, gave me an excuse to kind of remove my own pain and put it on other people so that i could project that and not feel it myself, it's sometimes hard to, to really look inward and see that maybe the cause of your problem isn't the other . the ideology is secondary and i'm talking about every type of extreme, whether it's fundamental religious ideology or hateful or racist ideology. that's something that is just a layer on top of
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that profess here and most when i got in prison in mississippi, the reverse racism is so hard core. i got everything from home, from a number. you know, so i always go behind here. so i figured the best statement i can make, i can join the most vicious thing i can think of and let them know if you touch me again, i'm going to kill you. and nothing said that message is better than the brother. much easier to recruit in southern and again, it is easy to exploit. you know, you have that person 247 around you. you know, it's not like outside where they can go home, get a break and maybe pick a different then you want to do. and there is perfect, i just used to be here on around one and then i never covered, you know,
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hidden in all my touches. so i used to be the guy with a swastika, all my neck down the street, and people would pull the kids or me literally. i've seen people for their kids away from and i say this so yeah, i get that reaction to somebody who's looking down and like live down there. so now i try to, you know, teachers like, you know, most of the possible. thank you, that out of you wanted me to be able to get some of this remote covered up and you know, i wouldn't be live changing because i could never see that made them judgment. call without me putting verse. when you come from nothing you really have gotten up and a little bit power. you know, it's nice and you know, those good to think you're in control of something one does the whole things about who's the power of how, of how power so yeah, it's hard to leave that. it's hard to give it up. you go. okay. i will say with all
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that, but i've shared everything i've also taken on the bruises. i've had everything, all the stress, i've been through all years of torture for them to say, okay, that was for nothing. i'm gonna leave it alone and go over here and be a nobody. i don't think there is a single group in the united states that i know of that can be accurately described as white supremacist. they white supremacist is presumably someone who wants to rule over people of other races. that's a term from the history books. yeah. in terms of living and african climate, it's still ladies here. that's why they're, they're different. like foods falling off the trees. yeah. black and white, have you looked at the victim service? i've looked at a lot of victim server. ok. you're looking at how many male on black female rates were there. and the last 10 years, i don't know, approaching the euro. okay. okay, so like there are huge discrepancies in terms of crime. and that's our fax. but you
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think that they're more predisposed to to being criminals? yes. africans. yes. or do you think it's just what it is? i don't blame them. you don't think it's a, you don't think of a product of our systemic failures and law enforcement and justice system and, and schooling system. and the fact that up until very recently, very recently in our history where parents were alive, they weren't allowed to have the same actually, what happens i, i think a lot of conservatives with sale africans will destroy by the welfare states. i don't really buy that. i think there was a certain, i think they were destroyed by slavery. howard immigrants affecting you right now. here in whitefish white fish is deeply segregated. do you think we need to bring in more syrian right? no, i don't think we need to bring in anybody, but i also don't think we need to exclude anybody if they wish to come in. right. how do you feel about that? well, i would ultimately exclude people. yeah. but i'm willing to say,
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i'm willing to say it, like i'm willing to defend the community. and most people, i don't know, i'm doing everything i can to protect my people in civilization. i went on a path and like you, i was passionate. i was willing to die for it. i was willing to do what it took to to, to make the vision come through a reality. i think your last, like i was for 8 years, and i want to know what you down the path. i have the higher ideal of what the right white race can be. and i actually have a super human ideal. i'm not caught up in, you know, justice or security or comfort. so white people are just, they're so good in so nice. it once me, it makes me want to puke they, they, they, they really are accepting towards the other. they want to trust people. but you also need people like me who are the guardians of these nice people. we live in a country that's rich by it's, it's diverse and headed to the only way it's going to, it's going to become that way. and if it comes down to a civil war,
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i think there will be a terrible presentation. i don't know when it's gonna happen. it might happen tomorrow. it might happen in 50 years or so on. but this thing can go on, what do you think you're really going to accomplish? and we've already accomplished so much like what identity and his own the all right . and i mean not to be good to go, but my name are now household to rooms to meet me. what endo, to create a more beautiful world. that's exclusive of everybody away from the ah ah,
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in the year of 1954, the united states of america engaged in warfare against the people of vietnam. the white house supported the corrupt puppet government of southern vietnam. in 1965 americans began their invasion following the aim to defeat the forces of vietnamese patriots. the pentagon was confident that the victory would be on the american side due to its military superiority. however, the vietnamese turn this war into a total hell for the occupants. unable to cope with the guerrillas, the american army started blanket bombing alongside using chemical weapons and napalm which burnt all alive. the village of my lay wearing 969 american soldiers killed 504 civilians, including 210 children,
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became a tragic symbol of this war. all in all, during the whole period of this conflict, the usa dropped on vietnam more than $6000000.00 tons of bombs, which is 2 and a half times as much as on germany during the 2nd world war. in 1973, the american army under the pressure of the rebels, withdrew from vietnam. and only 2 years later did the puppet regime in saigon fall . however, the vietnamese paid a high price for their freedom. more than 1000000 vietnamese people became the victims of american aggressors. ah, i think russia in the 21st century has taken several opportunities to try to see if they would be interested in the west to create new boundaries to create a new relationship. and as you mentioned, time and time and time again, it would get flatly rejected because we have sort of pushed russia into this corner,
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ideologically attitude only to say, you're the adversary. you're the, we may not be in a formal bipolar ideological cold war anymore. but we're not going to allow a new relationship to develop with you know, there was no program when i left i kind of and all of us at life after hate, kind of stumbled our way through it. and then we can take the lessons that we've learned from that and shrink a time frame down. so there's less walk, less wandering in the wilderness, so to speak. when i was in the move in the last 2 years before i left, i was struggling with do i want to leave? i like, pardon me, wanting to leave another part. it was been battle with ice. if i leave, i had nothing to fall back on.
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