you mentioned that you spoke with about how she took on my truck visa brought the enough room for you real quick to put your logo double play. you have j posted on that. so if you could i was standing in an alley smoking a joint one day and a man came up to me and he pulled the joint from my mouth and he said, don't you know that that's what the capitalists and the jews want you to do. we are violent towards those people because we believe that we're the superior race. we're here 1st and this is our pantry, guns ammo, still tow darnell martens, tattooing violence just just prerequisite to enter or exit 3 walked off like i

could see this looking to cease about the feeder, like he feared me being part of that movement. i got to feel a sense of power. when i felt powerless, i got attention when i felt invisible and accepted when i felt that we had a strategy, we wanted to clean our image up and make our message more palatable to the masses. don't get tattoos don't shape your head. don't get arrested. go to college, joined the military. keep your head down. go mainstream the news

. ah a person i began to hear about these organizations that were trying to help guys get out of the movement because only the guys who were in the movement could really understand

what the guys who are currently getting out with feel like what life after hate is an organization that was founded by for ex skinhead, neo nazi white supremacist in the us and canada. and they found each other and they knew that they wanted to help other guys get out. so the idea is to get them out, make, keep them safe and get that kind of support that they need from other performers in order to stay out with . welcome and we were thought, yeah, well, we're pioneer. we're the 1st ones to do this. we're the 1st one and quite frankly,

probably the only ones doing it. and we're certainly the only ones driven by 100 percent formless at this point in your desire to do this is new and you don't have the experience. each of us in this room has the capability to help people where we, once we're, this isn't a path that anyone should have to do a loan. and if there are people in this room who have to do it alone in the beginning, and you understand how difficult that was and what kind of critical role we can play in the lives of someone else. mm. mm. my name is franklin richardson, philadelphia got in the movement in any ages 13 going on 14 in the movement. i got very active, especially very violent can up. somebody went to prison and i was 17. as i got out of the way, it was douglas, any bombing that made me reach out to people to help the picture of the fireman right down the street. that, that little girl is something that will always stick with me. ended up going to

prison for about 4 years, and i got involved with there's meaning behind the color of the tattoo. like if it's a solid black tattoo. a person committed a murder and got away with hulu. i do some serious things that are not thankful i get that covered up. i'll have to look at it in a more went to treatment last year. and when i graduated, my reach out to white pastor, i hadn't been involved with them doing stuff. hire portland, trying to reach out and help other people that are struggling to come out of the movement. i was involved with the white area resisted skin has, and emerson has in san diego for 13 or 14 years. we would do gay bashing runs and we would attack people just for the color of their skin. i have left people laying there that i don't know if they lived or not. i was

involved in the skin that seen from the mid eighty's all the way to the, to the mid ninety's. for 7 or 8 years i went through a disengagement, but i'd left the movement at the movement and left me. it was the birth of my, my daughter. you know, i get enough little girl and the delivery room and my son was born 15 months later, they saw the magnificence of me when i couldn't see it. and they gave me that gift that allowed me to we humanized i became a gang member spence, probably about 18 years and started that kind of lifestyle in prison. june holmes to after surviving a race. right. became pretty violent and aggressive and started started manifest as a towards why it's as a result of that race. right? because of my role in the riot, i quickly grew within the game one of the highest ranking duty members in my state . i had made a vow that if i was going to rob steele kelly or whatever it was going to be white,

can we start to feel special and what we're going through here and in it is special, but it's not as unique as you might think. it's really a humanistic play. it's the same story. it's the same feeling the human experience and hate no matter what. what flag you fight under has a very similar approach this inaugural gathering. performers think it's incredibly important. you know, we were able to get and so far it just says volunteers working together as a team and being able to handle the load that that's not possible anymore. there's countries in too far crisis. the

truth is that we are being ethnically own nation. we've got a right to keep this nation the nation that are for product. envision that's what we're fighting for here. everyone together now saying before the words, i want to secure the existence of the white race in the future for white children. that's what this is all about. is about stopping white genocide solving multiculturalism american white working classes, angry. they've been medically ignored by both major parties for decades. now, i'm looking at these extreme white nationalist flights premise, se nazis. these guys were active in the stream, right to very, very end of a continuous because i want to know how they went from the center and drifted off there and ended up so far from what i consider to be the mainstream. because i

think they can tell us a lot about what's going on in the mainstream as well. why would this group that seem so privileged? feel themselves to be such victims? these guys are furious, and in many cases they're kind of right to be furious. they've been delta bad and you can understand the sense of, of this range without understanding the sense of entitlement that it's founded on. so when i say that their anger is real, it's because they feel like they've been dispossess something's taken from them. the the the language that they use it's all a language of retrieving restoring, reclaiming your masculinity because you had it, they took it away. now you've got to get it back. the

the, the the the, the way that i would ever back down such a little like may or signer that i would ever back down when the governor of the state declared a bit of or just if they thought they don't understand why they don't understand the all right, they don't understand this entire movie. hey

randy. hey, sammy, i just wanted to check in with you see how you're doing before we come over? can be so good to meet you, brother? yeah. okay, great. our brother will be there in a few minutes. all right, it's the hardest thing i have ever made a good time. and my young 1900 years, was to get out of this. i was going on 20 is. i'm now going to lose family members that are in mentalism. when all is, every friends i've just had for the last 6 years old and they're all going to go are so just kind of recap and fresh out fresh on like, i think you just like one day to the next as still questions, things. yeah. but he, he went, he didn't go through a period of questioning his membership. he went from being in to be in like, almost instantaneous, same day kind of thing. you know,

he was got turned at the raleigh, the the getting beat up. he was getting beat up through protester side of things. people were kicking house and people have to know that it's really ramp it in. the people are getting out to turn to other things, alcohol, drugs, other addictions. and so, you know, it's, it's, you know, it's this make this clean break and it's, it's, there's going to be a whole $180.00 on a lifestyle. ah, my situation when i got out it was like, i'm alone out here. like i'm completely isolated. i'm alone. and i would try to tell people what my experience was like, but no one could we leave, you know, and it sounds like this guy that we're seeing right now is what i'm hearing a loan,

uncertain cutoff. i think happy to know there are others out here to understand what it's like to be in the movement. to understand what it's like to get out of the movement. to understand what is post change is possible, there is a way out there is life after have me think russia in the 21st century has taken several opportunities to try to see if there would be interested in the west to create new boundaries to create a new relationship and as you mentioned, time and time and time again, it would get flatly rejected because we have sort of pushed russia into this corner, ideologically attitude, way to say you're the adversary. you're the, we may not be in a formal bipolar ideological cold war anymore. but we're not going to allow a new relationship to develop the

may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries, the united states of america is different. wherever people long to be free, they will find a friend in the united states. ah, with you little bit about it all ready? basie. so the city, if you draw, you look at the book, they incentive somebody to figure a few. color revolutions is one among several means to reach the goal of conquering foreign lands and bringing them onto the help of u. s. western economic interest. people in sadie,

i didn't that needed to go back to get them. okay. yeah, yeah. you training class. so no, we just say low their soft power. i'm a cat. and the final goal of these thing revolutions is to ensure that there are no independent players in the world anymore. oh, the or ask you like the racial and you always have been a little racist. yeah. yeah, yeah. and this kind of fell into except, and you know, was in your like, in your family with your community, it's every other everywhere normal for you then? yeah, yeah. well, and i was afraid to be open about every come grace ones or go personal prism every person around with you know they got

the walking already had i didn't, i need to know what i felt what i believed. felt right. love. most guys, when they get out, they don't keep with it. i know if i, if i have a good person, that's what i have to do to click back. oh, so how long over the whole course your life are you involved like actively as like a white supremacist? i'd want michelle john. sure. it's all, it's all. we always make new ones. you know, make them more fashionable. usually. i know if i just one big was the only for i know i michael i was like was mccullen. so was off now to can i don't buy the boat, had it pointed up. 40 from magnum, you know, long, barely, you know, it's gonna take everything inside. it kicked down. it came back, clean, clean, sharp. how long you've been clean. now. let's see. when

ever you left a couple of years ago or for 3 years, you know, she know she met me all day long into life. was doing this unless it's why it's called nazi. no, it's a lot of change is getting thrown at you right now. you know, yeah, yeah, a lot, a lot, you know, not using drugs, you know, familiar and he's gone and the racing was all correct if you will. you guys have been lifeline. irreplaceable. you know, you're reaching out though, man. you know, you didn't, didn't, didn't do william the person, you know, god coming to hit me and now there wasn't, wasn't that guy. you know, god, you not fearful, as you know, when you called in today we're gonna, we're definitely gonna be down there. they've got real got real quick. i can't imagine what, what, what the future holds. sure, ma'am, but if it's anything like what we're seeing up the glove, you know,

one of the most that you're struggling to keep going through, you know, scares hell. but you're joining that, that, that group of men and women men who are facing the same, changed your face, right? i can't tell you how many hundreds of people who don't believe in the ideology of loss while they're in the movement are too afraid to leave. or to afraid to leave for safety purposes. but they're also afraid to start over. they don't want to abandon that identity that they have or that community. and they stay in because they have nothing to go back to. because they walked away from everything, when they joined up at the top. what do you think about a nation or political order that is racially richard? what do you think of israel of have some coffee?

let's talk the like lego. hey, nice to meet. you know, what form or show us is that you can, you can think as, as low as human beings can think in some ways you can do horrible things and you can come out the other side. you should have been so badly broken that there's no way you could come back from this. if you did so can have that right. so can you, if you are going to pretend that this is simply an intellectual exercise and you don't speak to the visceral experience that these guys have in the movement, you won't be able to reach that violence was fairly new to me. i know at the beginning i certainly enjoyed the adrenalin rush and the ability to instill fear in people that was like water to some of the wandering, the desert correlated factor,

and someone joining about when the extremist group with childhood trauma abuse could be coming from a broken home and drugs and alcohol, my case of it was abandonment, growing out the foster care my whole life. and being physically abused as a kid by my an uncle and my cousins and stuff and science since i was a kid, you know, and i grew up in the streets. i know my father loved us very much, but i didn't get to see him a whole lot. when i was 10 walked in on him with another woman and then bang. when the god fell off the pedestal, resorted to act out at school and to go down this rabbit hole of, of defiance and anger and confuse i was very confused. my dad used to be me like another guy being another guy. and barbara. awesome. that's no line i walk in and you know, it's not basically knocked me out with a punch. i'm out fade the black. they form very unhealthy identity about

themselves. they're not good enough. they're not smart enough. they're not pretty enough. they're on level. they're less than all my friends in the gang as a young kid, as a young man as an older man. we all have very similar experiences. nobody use words like trauma or abuse or child abuse abandoned man. my father wasn't there for me. no one could talk about that. it was just like we, we stuff it was depress it. the shame was, i think, compiled with humiliation. if you couldn't put it away and you couldn't be violent, we live our lives. and until we heal that shame in reaction to in another way is to adopt an ideology which tells you you're greater that that's what i did feel like other people think they're not. and here's a group that comes along and says, we think you're something that we think you're better, your special it was my family. it was my identity,

it became the person who i was for 8 years. i found comfort and mostly because i was angry at myself and my parents and being a part of a hate movement, gave me an excuse to kind of remove my own pain and put it on other people so that i could project that and not feel it myself, it's sometimes hard to, to really look inward and see that maybe the cause of your problem isn't the other . the ideology as secondary. and i'm talking about every type of extreme, whether it's fundamental religious ideology or hateful or racist ideology. that's something that is just a layer on top of that pretty fast here. and most when i got in

prison in mississippi, the reverse racism is so hard core. i got everything from my home, from a number that always goes behind here. so i figured the best statement i can make, i can join the most vicious thing i can think of and let them know if you touch me again, i'm going to kill you and nothing said that message better than the brother. much easier to recruit in southern it is easy to exploit. you know, you have that person 247 around you. you know, it's not like outside where they can go home, get a break and maybe make a difference then you want to do. and there is perfect, i guess you see i just was here on around one. and then i never covered, you know, hidden in all my touches. so i used to be the guy with

a swastika all down the street and people would pull the kids literally. i've seen people pull their kids away from me and i say this. yeah. so yeah, i get that reaction to somebody who's looking down and like, live down there. so not sure as much as possible. thank you. that out of you wanted me to be able to get some of this remote covered up. i wouldn't be live changing because i could never see that it doesn't come without me talk them 1st. when you come from nothing. you really have gotten them a little bit power. you know, it's nice and you know, those good to think you're in control of something one does the whole thing about the power of power, power power. so yeah, it's hard to leave that. it's hard to give it up, you know? okay. i will say with all that, but i've shared harry thing, i've also taken on the bruise. i've had everything, all the stress, i've been through all years of torture for them to say, okay,

that was for nothing. i'm gonna leave it alone and go over here and be a nobody. i don't think there is a single group in the united states that i know of that can be accurately described as white supremacist. they white supremacist is presumably someone who wants to rule over people of other races. that's a term from the history books. yeah. in terms of living in african climate it's still lot easier. that's why they're, they're different. like foods falling off the trees. yeah. black and white, have you looked at the victim service? i've looked at a lot of victim server. ok. you're looking at how many male on black female rates were there. and the last 10 years, i don't know, approaching them 0. okay. okay, so like there are huge discrepancies in terms of crime. and that's our fax. but you think that they're more predisposed to being criminals?

yes. africans. yes. or do you think it's this is what it is. i don't blame you. don't think that you don't think of a product of our systemic failures and law enforcement and justice system and, and schooling system. and the fact that up until very recently, very recently in our history where parents were alive, they weren't allowed to have the same access that africans. i, i think a lot of conservatives with sale africa will destroy by the welfare states. i don't really buy that. i think there was a certain, i think they were destroyed by slavery. howard immigrants affecting you right now. here in whitefish white fish is deeply segregated. do you think we need to bring in more serious stuff? no, i don't think we need to bring in anybody, but i also don't think we need to exclude anybody if they wish to come in. right. how do you feel about that? well, i would ultimately exclude people. yeah. but i'm willing to say, i'm willing to say it, like i'm willing to defend the community. and most people don't recognize that i'm doing everything i can to protect my people in civilization. i went on

a path and like you, i was passionate. i was willing to die for it. i was willing to do what it took to to, to make the vision come through a reality. i think your last, like i was for 8 years, and i want to know what you down that path. i higher ideal of what the right white race can be and i actually have a superhuman ideal. i'm not caught up in, you know, justice or security or comfort. so white people are just, they're so good in so nice. it once me, it makes me want to puke they, they, they, they really are accepting towards the other. they want to trust people. but you also need people like me who are guardians of these nice people. we live in a country that's written by it's, it's diverse and added to the only way it's gonna, it's gonna become that weighs if it comes down to a civil war, i think there will be a terrible presentation. i don't know when it's going to happen. it might happen tomorrow, it might happen in 50 years or so on, but this thing can go on,

what do you think you're really going to accomplish and already accomplish so much like what identity syrian is on the. all right, and i mean not to be good to go, but my name are now household to rooms with me. i mean what, endo, to create a more beautiful world. that's exclusive of everybody. but why people, lou ah, ah, what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy even foundation, let it be an arms race is on offense. very dramatic development. only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very critical of time, time to sit down and talk with

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