it is not to be trustworthy, neither is nittany al to be trustworthy. and he had proven to be a liar to the americans into devout sin than now to even it on people they really are against is lies. so i dont trustees really they don't think anybody can trust h radio ad. there is no political process or in the horizon unless it's ready to really mean what they say the stop the settlements. the 2 state solution is based on a palestinian state that the sovereign and if you are building settlements, you're actually not in favor of it. palestinian state that is sovereign. those are some of the new stories, the shape, the we care on archie international form on any of them as well as all the latest updates to check us our website to all t dot com. i'm peter scott, on the back again at the top of the hour. thanks for watching.

with you know, there was no program when i left i kind of and all of us at life esther hate kind of stumbled our way through it. and then we can take the lessons that we've learned from that and shrink the time frame down. so there's less was less wandering in the wilderness, so to speak. when i was in the move in the last 2 years, before i left, i was struggling with do i want to leave? i like part of me want to leave another part in it's been battle with us. if i leave adolescence to fall back on, i have that deposit to do or have nobody to go to. you know mean it hasn't lived around the last 7 years. i have nothing sometimes it's hard if they've got a swastika tattooed on their neck, it's hard for them, but just to say, i don't do that anymore. it's kind of a long process. it's not like you just leave it one day and you're like, well, i'm glad that's over. i had been out of the movement before i got connected with

these guys, but i was on my own and didn't talk about it and had a lot of buried shame and guilt. and then i met these guys and i saw, you know, friends, you talking arnold, talk it, help me get past that barrier of feeling like i had to hide this from world that opening up has really just taken my, my viewing process and my allusion to a whole other level really, you've gotta find a way to find an affirmation that every discussion, no matter how bad it feels, it is going. you've just got to be able to acknowledge like takes guts to do that. try to help them discover the abilities that they have. this is why we don't want to foster dependency. this is why the intervention can't rely on my car is more. they go from being untrusting, hateful, spiteful, distant to begging for more interaction. another phone call. another meeting, you know, tell me poor and don't be surprised when they say that's the best conversation i've had in a long time. that is something that's very routine that comes out of people just

want to be listened to. and we're trying to teach you how to listen to them. well, we hold a mirror up so the person can see their humanity reflected back at them through our when we treat them as human beings treat them for the suffering person that they are. and they, on the receiving end of that, they get to see that, hey there's, there is a human insights. and that's the, i think, the incredible power of compassion. it was very impactful. when someone finally came along with no fear, no judgement. she heard my story did nothing to challenge it, but validated the soon as i started talking about, my mother tears came out. i just spilled my guts about everything she had done to me. letting her brother raised me and my sister denied the rape happened making us go back around. how many times she she tried to kill me, broken bones, bruises the starvation, the sleep, deprivation and humiliation making me swallow my own. my brothers and sisters

watching is turning my brother against me. keep my sister away from me like i had never had a chance to just unleash all it. and i probably went on like an hour of just the stuff she did to me. and he says, well, i wanna ask another question. sorry. have you ever done this to anyone else? just in that moment it was like i'm just like my mother me. what really changed me was receiving compassion from the people that i least deserved from when i least deserved. people knew who i was, it was a small town,

they knew what i was capable of and what i'd been doing for years and they didn't attack me. they didn't break the windows of my star, then argue ideologically with me. they came in and they were empathetic towards me, and they treated me with compassion despite the horrible person that i was at the time. the body might offer me a job carrying antique furniture at cherry hall, new jersey mall for a week, free days, 100 bucks a day. and i told him, i said, i take the job. he is going to tell you before you say yes, the guy who owns this company is due and i said, i don't care about talk to him. do i want to work for his name at 6 months? i still think it was in the nazi shift would fit every jewish stereotype,

religious and wearing alligators, and i don't bring them right the same way. i broke the marble top table and i was like, i'm so stupid. i'm so sorry. 7 bears for me. so i some hours a day or right for the customer, but he spot it off of very drove me home. i was waiting for him to fire me. so actually, you know, but i remember only not too much on that day, and i kept my boots under the seat of his trunk delivery and you couldn't really put them any further than i were. and my knees were hurting so bad because it's china up there. so for the whole right, swastikas looks at him every day. like he has no money or nazi. and i just wanted to see my boots. i knew him boots man, for me. they dropped me off and they were full pay me on my pay monday

and i was told and i just can wake up my faint things or feed me back. i'm not scared, i don't want it and i'm done with it. i'm fluid. if it was 2 parts to getting out of a violent extremist group, the 1st part is disengagement, which is where you leave the social group. you leave the behavior you leave, but you probably still have the ideology. you've been given this nice recipe for how the world works and you take that away from somebody and then what do they have, right? they, they were looking for an analysis and you've taken away their analysis. so, you know, what's left drugs, i mean there all kinds of things that they can just sort of fall into. so you have to be very careful about it. and when you're bringing them out, you will alert them to the risks. this isn't going to be easy and they're going to

be people that are angry that do this because they've lost someone, they've invested the time and energy and we do debriefing. you're going to, if you're going to be on the outside, we need to know everything. you know about how it works on the inside cuz you're not going back in. so we're, since we're going to burn those help you burn those bridges. so you can't go back and take everything away that was associated with that world. we take away your white laces, we take away your nazi fly because it's too easy to go back. and then the next part is de radicalization where it be belief systems in the audiology are removed or you can go to go get an anti metal from the cobra for a couple weeks. may get your rates at the same time, it's a bit bigger. that's how they do it. we're like the anti event on the main because we have, we had that many minutes so we know how to spew it and we know how to also make it an anti mental and we had the answer. so i do believe the secret sauce is coming from a loving place. you can't hate this person and expect to communicate any of that.

you can't judge this person and expect to counter that with empathy before you got out what was what was pushing you to want to get off. i wrote jackson me, you know, before and after present, you know, most of my best friends, but it's like, ok in prison. you know, like, you know how you have to be. so you tend to be it. and after a while, before you realize it in a scary is you actually become that image. you were just training. i had myself every day for getting myself locked up. so when i looked at it, what made anybody else more special than me? so i hate and so where did that shift come from? how come in one day you went from not thinking about that to really saying i need to start making some changes is watch, watch much longer up but it's hard. and every time i leave it, honestly, i live with the family because i can't be out there. the brothers didn't like that

when they found only because they could just let me know they do, said they you know, try to kill. why now? i get shot. go off the road and you know, i'm going to come to the car, breaks the brakes and i remember slicing a child's car. right. like if i said yes, this is good. you need to is mad right across. and then we inside the school and open this up. i'm trying to get out and just to get it because one thing someone stuck in that life, someone in that life who may not be aware that there is a way out. what would you say? i go all the have that, hey,

ruins you poisons you're very solemn and i learned in the falls on a lot of since really during the summer in 2016, we started to see a significant consistent increase in the number of incidents reported to our office we saw between 20152016. the number of anti muslim hate groups tripled. tonight the f. b i walking into whether have crime charges will be filed against him. alleged white supremacists accused of stabbing to good samaritans to death on a commuter train. in portland, the guy who did that was someone who had been in the fringes of the all right, movement, the enemies up on their way. this country are great on there. so that we hear that all the time go back to where you came from. and he just amped up that

rhetoric that he wants to take his country back. and so that's that, that's the theme that runs through that. and we're not going to let people come into our country. it's troy. i saw this guy running for president doing the exact same thing and i couldn't believe that i was hearing it, but i knew that it would work. and that was the frightening thing because i've seen it work on a plan rally and stone mountain georgia. i saw that kind of rhetoric where people are yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. what do we do about it? their culture. i don't want to know about their culture in your body. you could just go back to much, much bucket of gasoline was kicked over and lit up. all those little sparks that already existed into a large forest buyer. part of donald trump's huge appeal was that although he does not think in terms of race, the way i do, he at least thinks in terms of nation,

he recognizes that the united states is a nation with a particular people. and that not everybody belongs. this is a great, a leave. 2 millions of white people who have seen their nation transformed the name of diversity. diversity that always comes at the expense of white. he spoke to some, you know, some of the things that, that angry white male wants to hear. we're gonna put a wall on the border. we're going to make the mexicans pay ford. we're going to bring manufacturing jobs back as a kind of populous messaged white males, combined with racism, that was found to be very attractive and everyone's premises like that idea as well . there's not thousands, tens of thousands, there's hundreds of thousands of them that have an intellectual curiosity in an understanding of national socialism that no skin had ever had. there was a price you paid if you were a public with you or being a tree or anti semitism. it didn't serve you well in your career. your friends in

your neighborhood, really burnt, excited to hang out with. your kids might be embarrassed of you. your parents would be really upsetting you and people learned that those attitudes were not going to be beneficial to their life. i think what we're concerned about now is that blanket and that we put over it is being pulled back. that it's going to be really hard to put that back where it was. i think russia in the 21st century has taken several opportunities to try to see if there would be interested in the west to create new boundaries to create a new relationship. and as you mentioned, time and time and time again, it would get flatly rejected because we have sort of pushed russia into this corner, ideologically attitude, way to say you're the adversary. you're the, we may not be in a formal bipolar ideological cold war anymore. but we're not going to allow

a new relationship to develop with some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities. in other countries, the united states of america is different wherever people long to be free. they will find a friend in the united states. ah, with me you will have it out by the body of the bolts. everybody basie. so the city, if you draw, you look at the book, they incentives that needs to get a few color. rebel notions is one among several means to reach the goal of conquering foreign lands and bringing them onto the help of u. s. western economic interests. people in sadie,

i don't know if it's what i go by the democrats. yeah. during the training class. so no, we just say a softball m a cat. the final goal of these thing revolutions is to ensure that there are no independent players in the world anymore. ah, there was a state of emergency in florida. it's a white nationalist, was about to take stage b our day. yeah, we're here florida. is grayson for potential violence today at a speech by white national liter richard spencer, who the food gestures gathering out. so i decided the only reason my mother to say, but i will say that back to you all right. and read the notion that they really were the way to find a stage spencer,

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that stuff. so, you know, i always check with his guy guys, gonna get killed that here. so my, i got, i got this guy coming and people who say, oh, we have the hey, hey hey, love please. same people had a hate when i was randy, you know, i came home. i don't want to talk to you, you know, understand you. he will cool. no problem the whole time. we couldn't really have a discussion because these camera, you know, you people pushy,

i don't get down was go find more. really intimate said neil, i don't know if i'm talking to you. like really? and i guess our intimate setting was force known as we were both keep out. so we encountered some police officers, they were treat and randy, how they would treat me on a regular day. you know, just are for what they perceive by his our parents end up one, arrest in. yeah, i right, this made you got beat on spin. all you see the sped on the back. is this mound was what is he doing wrong? why you haven't been, sit on the ground, do this type of stuff. so we actually started walking and talking and we found out we have things in common. you know, i some, his views about certain bay. it was certain style i'm girl and both. yeah. he was telling me he got involved in his teenage years in the air you nation. and i said, how a lot of my friends and different people get involved, and the blow to crimps in different games. they join. that's what's around you. so

whatever is around you and your friends may be involved with whatever happens your, my state is going to be on that. so for me, i just saw the similarities of what my culture would deal with just in a little different way. there's no, there's nothing new up on it. a son. his was just a different route. they angry white man, angry back to different. angry black man is angry because he has no home. has no vision. yeah, no way to provide angry white people, especially in a lower income cause they have so many mental and role models that you can just turn on the tv and see success. i mean, now i will be deprived to it. down at the bottom would be black people when they got to really bad. you know, i'm white or i'm or no, it isn't easy to see the thing around. and you know, no one you're gonna, dr. any, you know, what, better way to focus at anger that they don't these people, people are different,

you know, color, i can say ignorant white man because he's angry because he doesn't really understand was listening. oh, it, it, america. he doesn't even say he got to wait events. you know, i'll go to bless with my ancestors back. i mean, everybody that white in america has benefited all of them. if tell me, answer that color response to your name is i miss, you know, busy right now. given the help i got somebody to understand not just myself, but my culture as a whole and look it differently just because of my individual encounter. and we talk every week, man, bother to 3 times a week, at least. others that yeah, at least do couple times. you know, your phone calls, you know, our phone calls hill. and we don't wanna route with

you. think about what you've done just in the last month that the turnaround correction done what you've abandoned and what you adopted. it's most people can't even lose 10 pounds. they want to lose much less make an entire mental, emotional in lifestyle, change to humanize town, which allowed him to humanize your like that. that's not rocket science, but yeah, it's, it's evading. the majority of the country right now, there's a lot, i could, i could never look at anybody and eric eric and brotherhood a nation. anybody on the same lack of free in that that was part of his narrative and changes his narrative. not that we agree with anything that comes out of the far right. so we don't ever forget that there are people inside and most people will, you know that there's a human being inside of this person. right. and we just choose not to forget that

you don't really see x, not seeing vitamin, you know, have a lot of dialogue. as we do. i mean, i can consider him a friend. i was glad that i could have that effect on randy to open his eyes up to see then you know something a c whatever may have been introduced to him or told him was proven to be a last day me madison. but i think we often think about this and terms of the ways in which they are failing us. they are bad men, they are floating away from us. they are deviant. and i think we need to ask the other question. also,

we need to ask the question and how we are failing them. what kind of ways can we keep them in the center? and part of my answer to that is we have to find ways to keep them validated as men . it's really amazing. when people feel more whole quickly and easily ideology of hey, falls away. and if you can reconnect them to the people that they thought they hated . it helps build that in the so that they realize that there are actually a part of the solution rather than contributing the problem. the 1st time i've ever felt accepted in any shape or form from anybody is actually with why after have another p 5 med just recently. i feel if those 2 grades, so i want everybody to know the human being year instead of like a mission. but i have person to be able to have their different cultures and the

different people here. it really is to be able to close this to be able to interact because it teaches me that, you know, we're all in this together. this is a part of our emotion. farmers are, are evolving into a powerful force. me and justice quality, love, peace, compassion. we are operating as human beings from one of 2 places, year or last. i mean get to choose which one that is or will happen. and in the days following boston happened, it was such a turn out and seen that support for countering that narrative of white supremacy. it really flooded me with hope. i am proud that i can be a voice against what i used to stamps, or i thought i

have something to bring to the team among the bigger and better things. while i'm still mindful of what i owe to society. but no one's better served by my guilty shame at this point, including me. me i fart, karen and a r christine and a glock at this time. so sex long about molly and you need to communicate with them and he's got an automatic weapon is running

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