all the annual celebrations always end with the burning of massive effigies an ancient pagan tradition, which is the test of time. the ritual symbolizes the end of winter and the beginning of a new period of life. on monday, millions of all folks, christian believers will begin their $48.00, they lent restricting their menus and lifestyles ahead of them. with many thanks for joining the international web back in 30 minutes with more of the very latest. ah. you know, there was no program when i left i kind of and all of us at life after hate, kind of stumbled our way through it. and then we can take the lessons that we've learned from that and shrink the time frame down. so there's less was less

wandering in the wilderness, so to speak. when i was in the move in the last 2 years, before i left, i was struggling with do i want to leave? i like, pardon me, want to leave another part in it has been battle with us. if i leave, i have nothing to fall back on. i have that deposit to do. i have nobody to go to your meetings as i live around last 7 years. i have nothing sometimes it's hard if they've got a swastika tattooed on their neck, it's hard for them, but just to say, i don't do that anymore. it's kind of a long process. it's not like you just leave it one day and you're like, well, i'm glad that's over. i had been out of the movement before i got connected with these guys, but i was on my own and didn't talk about it and had a lot of buried shame and guilt. and then i met these guys and i saw, you know, friends talking arnold dog, it helped me get past that barrier of feeling like i had to hide this from world. that opening up has really just take my, my viewing process and my solution to

a whole nother level. really, you've got to find a way to find an affirmation that every discussion, no matter how bad it feels, it is going. you've just got to be organized like takes guts to do that. try to help them discover the abilities that they have. this is why we don't want to foster dependency. this is why the intervention can't rely on my car is more. they go from being untrusting, hateful, spiteful, distant, to begging for more interaction. another phone call. another meeting, you know, tell me poor and don't be surprised when they say that's the best conversation i've had in a long time. that is something that's very routine that comes out of the people just want to be listened to. and we're trying to teach you how to listen to them. well, we hold a mirror up so the person can see their humanity reflected back at them through our eyes. but when we treat them as human beings treat them for the suffering person that they are. and they, on the receiving end of that, they get to see that, hey there's, there is a human insights. and lastly,

i think the incredible power of compassion, it was very impactful. when someone finally came along with no fear, no judgement, she heard my story did nothing to challenge it but validated the soon as i started talking about, my mother tears came out. i just spilled my guts about everything she had done to me and letting her brother rate me and my sister denied the rape happened making us go back around. how many times she she tried to kill me, broken bones, bruises the starvation, the sleep, deprivation and humiliation making me swallow my own. my brothers and sisters watching is turning my brother against me. keep my sister away from you, like i had never had a chance to just unleash all that. and i probably went on like an hour of just the stuff she did to me. and he says, well, i want to ask another question. have you ever done this to anyone else?

just in that moment it was like i'm just like my mother me. what really changed me was receiving compassion from the people that i least deserved it from when i least deserved that people knew who i was. it was a small town. they knew what i was capable of and what i'd been doing for years and they didn't attack me. they didn't break the windows of my star, then argue ideologically with me. they came in and they were empathetic towards me . and they treated me with compassion, despite the horrible person that i was at the time

the body might offer me a job carrying in antique furniture at cherry hall, new jersey mall for a weekend, 3 days 100 bucks a day. and i told him, i said i take the job, he is going to tell you, before you say yes, the guy who owns this company is do. and i said, i don't care about talk to him. do i want to work for his name? 6 months still think i was in the are not chief would fit every jewish stereotyping religious right now like i don't bring them right or you know say where a marble top table and i was like, i'm so stupid. i'm so sorry. 7 bears frame me

who so i so hours a day or right for the customer, but he spotted off of very drove me home. i was waiting for him to fire me. so actually, you know, i remember him not to bridge on that day. and i just kept my boots under the seat of his trunk that you couldn't really put them any further than they were. and my knees were hurting so bad because it's trying to hold him up there. so for the whole right old swastikas looks at him every day, like he does normally nazi and i just want him to see my boots with him and what he did for me, they dropped me off and they were full pay. take anything i pay monday. and i was told and i just can wait for things on my feet. everyone back. i'm not scared. i wanted him. i'm done with it. i'm fluid. if it was

2 parts to getting out of a violin extremist group, the 1st part is disengagement, which is where you leave the social group. you leave the behavior you leave, but you probably still have the ideology. you've been given this nice recipe for how the world works and you take that away from somebody and then what do they have, right? they, they were looking for an analysis and you've taken away their analysis. so, you know, what's left drugs, i mean there all kinds of things that they can just sort of fall into. so you have to be very careful about it. and when you're bringing them out, you will learn them to the risks. this isn't going to be easy and are going to be people that are angry that do this because they've lost someone, they've invested the time and energy and we do debriefing. you're going to, if you're going to be on the outside, we need to know everything you know about how it works on the inside, cuz you're not going back in. so we're, since we're going to burn those help you burn those bridges. so you can't go back and take everything away that was associated with that world. we take away your

white laces. we take away your nazi fly because it's too easy to go back into. the next part is d. radicalization where the belief systems in the audiology are removed. you can't go to go get an anti mental from the cobra for a couple weeks. may get the rates at the same time, it's made that big. that's how they do it. we are at the anti event on demand because we have, we had that many in our so we know how to spew it and we know how to also make it an anti mental and we had the answer. so i do believe the secret sauce is coming from a loving place. you can't hate this person and expect to communicate any of that. you can't judge this person and expect to counter that with empathy before you got out what was what was pushing you to want to get up. jackson, you know, before and after prison, you know, most of my best friends, but it's like, ok in prison. you know, like, you know how you have to be so you can be it. and after a while,

before you realize that it's scary, is you actually become that image. you were just training. i had myself every day for getting myself locked up. so when i looked at it, what made anybody else more special than others? where did that shift come from? how come you? you went from not thinking about that to really saying i need to start making some changes. is watch, watch much longer, up and visit. but it's hard and every time i leave, you know, i'm saying live on the, on the family because i can be out there. the brothers didn't like that when they found out because they could just let me know when they do, said they, you know, try to kill me. why now? i get shot. go off the road. and i'm, you know, i'm going to come to the race car breaks the brakes. and

i remember slicing the child's car. right. like i said, yes, good. you need to is mad, lot across. and then we inside the school and open this up. i'm trying to get out and just to get on time if there was one thing, then someone's talking to someone in that life who may not be aware that there is a way out. what would you say? go all the have that have ruins. you poisoned your very own and i was on a lot of human since really during the summer in 2016, we started to see a significant consistent increase in the number of incidents reported to our office

. we saw between 20152016. the number of anti muslim, hey groups tripled tonight, the every i walking into whether have crime charges will be filed against an alleged white supremacists, accused of stabbing to good samaritans to death on a commuter train. in portland, the guy who did that was someone who had been in the fringes of the all right, movement the day and he's up on their way. the country are great on there that we hear that all the time. go back to where you came from and he just amped up that rhetoric that he wants to take his country back. and so that's that, that's the theme that runs through that. and we're not going to let people come into our country destroy. i saw this guy running for president doing the exact same thing and i couldn't believe that i was hearing it, but i knew that it would work. and that was the frightening thing because i've seen it work on a plan rally and stone mountain georgia. i saw that kind of rhetoric where people

are yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. what do we do about their culture? i don't want to know about their culture. if you want your body, you could just go home. you know where to go. what was the bucket of gasoline was kicked over and lit up. all those little sparks that already existed into a large forest buyer. part of donald trump's huge appeal was that although he does not think in terms of race, the way i do, he at least thinks in terms of nation, he recognized that the united states is a nation with a particular people. and that not everybody belongs here. this is a great relief to millions of people who have seen their nation transformed in the name of diverse with diversity that always comes at the expense of white. we spoke

to some of the things that, that angry white male wants to hear. we're going to put a wall on the border. we're going to make the mexicans pay for it. if we're going to bring manufacturing jobs backs as a kind of populous message, white males combined with racism that was found to be very attractive and everyone's promises like that idea. there's not insur tens of thousands, there's hundreds of thousands of them that have an intellectual curiosity. and on the understanding of national socialism that no skin had ever had, there was a price you paid if you were public with your big tree or anti semitism. and he didn't serve you well in your career. your friends in your neighborhood really burnt, excited to hang out with you. your kids might be embarrassed of you. your parents would be really upsetting. you and people learned that those attitudes were not going to be beneficial to their life. i think what we're concerned about now is that blanket and then we put over it, is being pulled back. that it's going to be really hard to put that back where it

was, ah needs to come to the russian state to never. i've status on the northland scheme, davis with within the $50000.00. okay, so 925 and speed you went home with we will van in the european union, the kremlin. yup. machines. the state on russia today and spoke ortiz spoke next. even our video agency, roughly all bands on youtube with me. i

think russia in the 21st century has taken several opportunities to try to see if there would be interested in the west to create new boundaries to create a new relationship. and as you mentioned, time and time and time again, it would get flatly rejected because we have sort of pushed russia into this corner, ideologically attitude way to say you're the adversary. you're the, we may not be in a formal bipolar ideological cold war anymore. but we're not going to allow a new relationship to develop the ah, there was a state of emergency in florida. it's a white nationalist, was about to take stage 3. our day university of florida is breaking for

potential violence. they had a speech by white nationalists later richard spencer, who do the protesters gathering outside the site of the, the only reason my mother yesterday. but i will say that back to you. all right. read the notion that they really were the way to find a stage spencer, trying to speak to the noise or the chip with

. so you know how to check? who's with this guy is grad going to get killed that here somebody got to help this guy color the hey people who say, oh is all love we hey, hey, hey, hey, love please. same people to had a

message, a hate when i post randy, you know, i came on i don't want to talk to you, you know, understand you. he was cool. no problem the whole time. we couldn't really have a discussion because the camera, you know, you people, question, i don't get tell me what was it was go find more of a sudden, you know, i don't know if i'm talking to you can be like really and i guess our intimate setting was force known as we were both keep out. so we encountered some police officers. they were treat randy, how they would treat me on a regular day, you know, just awful what they perceive by his our parents end up one arrest is. yeah. and i wanted to say right, this made you got veto and spin. are usually the sped on the back. is it usually his mouth, but what is he doing wrong?

why you actually sit on the ground, do this type of stuff. so we actually started walking and talking and we find out we have things in common. you know, i some his views about certain bay. it was certain i'm girl and both. yeah. he was telling me he got involved in his teenage years in the area nation. and that's just how a lot of my friends, the different people get involved in the boys to cripps in different games they joined. that's what's around you. so what i was around you and your friends may be involved or whatever happens, your mindset is going to be on that. so for me, i just saw the similarities of what my culture would deal with just in a little different way. there's no, there's nothing new up on it assign. it was just a different route. they angry white man, angry or 2 different. the angry black man is angry because he has no home has no vision. yeah, no way to provide angry white people, especially in a lower income because they have so many mental role models that you can just turn on the tv and see success. i mean, that would be deprived too if you know,

down at the bottom with black people when they got to reason, i mean, you know, i'm white. what am i know? is it easy to see the thing around and you know, you know, you know, when you're talking to you, you know, better way to focus at anger that these people have different color. i can say that why? because he's angry because he doesn't really understand was questioning. oh no, that america he doesn't even say i got the way out for the blessed waiting 3 of the 1st back. i mean everybody. that's why it in america has benefited on give me answer that color or suppose they miss or mr. given me or help me. i got somebody to understand that just maximize

my culture as a whole and look it differently just because of my individual encounter. every weakness and $23.00 times a week that the least to kill time phone calls, you know, hours of phone calls. and we thought was ours, me when you think about what you've done, just in the last month, the turnaround, the correction, the what you've abandoned and what you would opted it's, most people can't even lose 10 pounds. they want to lose much less make an entire mental, emotional and lifestyle change to humanize town, which allowed them to humanize your like that, that's not rocket science, but yeah, it's, it's evading. the majority of the country right now, there's a lot, i could, i could never look at anybody and eric eric umbrella, who nation,

anybody law about legally saying why i got free and that was part of his narrative and changes his narrative's. not that we agree with anything that comes out of the far right is that we don't ever forget that there are people inside of those people . but you know that there's a human being inside of this person, right. and we just choose not to forget that you don't really see x, not vienna vitamin you know, have a lot of dialogue as we do. but i mean, i can consider him a friend. i was glad i could have that effect on randy to open his eyes up to see then you know something a c. whatever may have been introduced to him or told him was proven to be a last day in

madison. but i think we often think about this and terms of the ways in which they are failing us. they are bad men, they are floating away from us. they are deviant. and i think we need to ask the other question. also, we need to ask the question and how we are failing them. what kind of ways can we keep them in the center? and part of my answer to that is we have to find ways to keep them validated as men . it's really amazing. when people feel more whole quickly and easily ideology of hate falls away. and if you can reconnect them to the people that they thought they hated. that helps build that. i'm them these that they realize that they're actually a part of the solution rather than contributing to the problem the 1st time i've

ever felt excepted any shape or form from anybody is actually with the wife after have another p 5 med just recently. i feel as if those grades so i want everybody to know the human been year instead of like i miss it. but i have person to be able to have the different cultures and different people here. it is really good to be able to be able to interact because it teaches me that no, we're all in this together. this is a part of our solution. warmers are, are evolving into a powerful force. good justice, quality, love, piece, compassion. we are operating as human beings from one of 2 places. here are, let me get to choose which one that is still

happening in the days following boston happened. it was such a turn out and just seemed that a mortgage support for countering that narrative of white supremacy. it really flooded me with hope. i am proud that i can be a voice against what i use to stamps or i feel like i have i have something to bring to the table among the bigger and better things. while i'm still mindful of what i owe to society. but no one's better served by my guilt or shame at this point, including me me . ready

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you, little bit about it all ready? basie slowly, city and draw. you look at the incentives of each cigna. a few color revolutions is one among several meetings to reach the goal of conquering foreign lands and bringing them onto the help of u. s. western economic interest. people inside it, i didn't that needed to everybody did them last year during the training course. so no, we just say low their soft power to the final goal of the same revolutions to ensure that there are no independent players in the world anymore. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy, even foundation, let it be an arms race is on a very dramatic development. only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how

that strategy will be successfully, very difficult time. time to sit down and talk with step down those to intimidation my of the presidential and parliamentary elections in africa. largest nation like jerry up. he was right. these are killed in a drive by shooting in the west bank at these. wally and palestinian authorities meeting jordan for security. also ahead. read them in peace is only possible if the germans, because independently from america, were not an instrument to break out yet another war. america has already twice like war begin from german soil and it's another name, a weapon, c. u cray. not one of the messages of crowds protest downside round database in germany.