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so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms. race is often very dramatic, development only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful is very critical. i'm time to sit down and talk with you know, there was no program when i left i kind of and all of us at life, esther hate kind of stumbled our way through it. and then we can take the lessons that we've learned from that and shrink the timeframe down. so there's less was less wandering in the wilderness, so to speak. when i was in the move in the last 2 years, before i left i was struggling with do i want to leave?

i like part of me want to leave. another part has been battle with us. if i leave adolescent fall back on, i have not been positive. do i have nobody to go to? you know me and lived around last 7 years. i have nothing. sometimes it's hard. if they've got a swastika tattooed on their neck, it's hard for them. but just to say, i don't do that anymore, it's kind of a long process. it's not like you just leave it one day and you're like, well, i'm glad that's over. i had been out of that movement before i got connected with these guys, but i was on my own and didn't talk about it and had a lot of buried shame and guilt. and then i met these guys and i saw, you know, frankly talking arnold talk, it helped me get past that barrier of feeling like i had to hide this from world. that opening up has really just taken my, my viewing process and my level lucian, to a whole other level. really, you've got to find a way to find an affirmation and every discussion, no matter how bad it feels, it is going. you've just got to be organized like takes guts to do that. try to

help them discover the abilities that they have. this is why we don't want to foster dependency. this is why the intervention can't rely on my christmas. they go from being untrusted hateful, spiteful, distant, to begging for more interaction. another phone call. another meeting in tell me poor, and don't be surprised when they say that's the best conversation i've had in a long time. that is something that's very routine that comes out of people just want to be listened to. and we're trying to teach you how to listen to them. well, we hold a mirror up so the person can see their humanity reflected back of them through our eyes. but when we treat them as human beings treat them for the suffering person that they are, and they, on the receiving end of that, they get to see that, hey, there is, there is a human insights. and that's the, i think, the incredible power of compassion. it was very impactful. when someone finally came along with no fear, no judgement, she heard my story,

did nothing to challenge it but validated the soon as i started talking about, my mother tears came up. i just spilled my guts about everything she had done to me . letting her brother raised me and my sister denied the rape happened making the school back around. how many times had she tried to kill me, broken bones, bruises the starvation, the sleep deprivation, the humiliation making me swallow my own. my brothers and sisters watching is turning my brother against me. keep my sister away from me like i had never had a chance to just unleash solid. and i probably went on like an hour of just the stuff she did to me. and he says, well, i want to ask another question. have you ever done this to anyone else? it just in that moment it was like i'm just like my mother

me. what really changed me was receiving compassion from the people that i least deserved from when i least deserved. people knew who i was, it was a small town. they knew what i was capable of and what i'd been doing for 8 years. and they didn't attack me. they didn't break the windows of my store, and then argue ideologically with me. they came in and they were empathetic towards me. and they treated me with compassion, despite the horrible person that i was at the time the

body might offer me a job carrying in antique furniture at cherry hall, new jersey mall for weekend 3 days, 100 bucks a day. and i told him, i said i take the job, he is going to tell you, before you say yes, the guy who owns this company is do. and i so i don't care, i want to talk to him. do i want to work for his name at 6 months? still think it was in the nazi shift would fit a re, jewish stereotype. religious wearing alligators and i don't bring them right or you know, say where i broke the marble top table and i was like, i'm so stupid. i'm so sorry. 7 bears for him. so i so hours a day or right for the customer, but he spot it off of very jo,

me home. i was waiting for him to fire me. so actually, you know, and i remember only not too much on that day, and i kept my boots on a little seat of his trunk delivery and you couldn't really put them any further than i were. and my knees were hurting so bad because it's trying to hold him up there. so for the whole right own swastikas looks at him every day because normally when i see when i just want to see my boots tenuous, improvement for me, they dropped me off and they were full pay anything on my paying monday. i was told i just can wait for 10 things on my feet. everyone back. i'm not scared, i don't want it and i'm done with it. i'm fluid. if it was 2 parts to getting out of a violin extremist group, the 1st part is disengagement,

which is where you leave the social group. you leave the behavior you leave, but you probably still have the ideology. you've been given this nice recipe for how the world works and you take that away from somebody and then what do they have, right? they, they were looking for an analysis and you've taken away their analysis. so, you know, what's left drugs, i mean there all kinds of things that they can just sort of fall into. so you have to be very careful about it. and when you're bringing them out, you will alert them to the risks. this isn't going to be easy and they're going to be people that are angry that do this because they've lost someone, they've invested the time and energy and we do debriefing. you're going to, if you're going to be on the outside, we need to know everything. you know about how it works on the inside cuz you're not going back in. so we're, since we're going to burn those help you burn those bridges. so you can't go back and take everything away that was associated with that world. we take away your white laces, we take away your nazi fly because it's too easy to go back into. the next part is d. radicalization where the belief systems in the audiology are removed. you can go

to go get an anti metal from the cobra for a couple weeks. may get the rates at the same time. it's a bit bigger. that's how they do it. we are like the anti vent on man because we have, we had that many minutes so we not as spirit and we know how to also make it into anti mental and we had the answer. so i do believe the secret sauce is coming from a loving place. you can't hate this person and expect to communicate any of that. you can't judge this person and expect to calmer, that with empathy before you got out what was what was pushing you to want to get off. i wrote jackson, you know, before and after president, you know, most of my best friends, but it's like, ok in prison. you know, like, you know how you have to be. so you tend to be it. and after a while, before you realize it in a scary is you actually become that image. you were just trying to, i had myself every day for getting myself locked up. so when i looked at it,

what made anybody else more special than me? so i hate and so where does that shift come from? how come you one you went from? not thinking about that to really saying i need to start making some changes is watch, watch much longer of both harvard and every time i leave it. honestly, i live on the, on the family because i can be out there. the brothers didn't like that when they found for, because i mean, they could just let me know. and it's been a big deal. said they, you know, try to kill me. why now? i get shot, go off the road and i'm, you know, i'm going to come to his car breaks the brakes. and i remember slicing child car to like i said, yes, this is good. you need to is mad a lot across. and then we inside the school and open this up. i'm trying to get out

. and just to get me if there was one thing, then someone stuck in that it was someone in that life who may not be aware that there is a way out. what would you say they go all the have that have ruins used, poisons. you're very solemn and i left him a lot of human since really, during the summer, in 2016, we started to see a significant consistent increase in the number of incidents reported to our office . we saw between 20152016. the number of anti muslim hate groups tripled. tonight the f b, i walking into whether have crime charges will be filed against an alleged white

supremacists and accused of stabbing to good samaritans to death on a commuter train. in portland, the guy who did that was someone who had been in the fringes of the all right, movement, the enemies up on their way. this country are great on their page so that we hear that all the time. go back to where you came from and he just amped up that rhetoric that he wants to take his country back. and so that's that, that's the theme that runs through that. and we're not going to let people come into our country destroyer. i saw this guy running for president doing the exact same thing and i couldn't believe that i was hearing it, but i knew that it would work. and that was the frightening thing because i've seen it work on klan rally and stone mountain georgia. i saw that kind of rhetoric where people are yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. what do we do about their culture? i don't want to know about their culture. if you want your body,

you could just go back to much, much because it was a bucket of gasoline. was kicked over and lit up, all those little sparks that already existed into a large forest buyer. part of donald trump's huge appeal was that although he does not think in terms of race, the way i do, he at least thinks in terms of nation, he recognized that the united states is a nation with a particular people. and that not everybody belongs. this is a great relief to millions of people who have seen their nation transformed in the name of diversity diversity that always comes at the expense of white. we spoke to some of the things that angry white male wants to hear. we're going to put a wall on the border. we're going to make the mexicans pay forward. we're going to bring manufacturing jobs backs as

a kind of populous message. white males combined with racism that was found to be very attractive and every wench premises like that idea one does not tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of them that have an intellectual curiosity and an understanding of national socialism that no skin had ever had. there was a price you paid if you were a public with your big tree or anti semitic and it didn't serve you well in your career. your friends in your neighborhood, really burnt, excited to hang out with. your kids might be embarrassed of you. your parents would be really upsetting you and people learned that those attitudes were not going to be beneficial to their life. i think what we're concerned about now is that blanket and that we put over it is being pulled back. that is going to be really hard to put that back where it was, ah,

i mean with i think russia in the 21st century has taken several opportunities to try to see if there would be interested in the west to create new boundaries to create a new relationship and as you mentioned, time and time and time again,

it would get flatly rejected because we have sort of pushed russia into this corner, ideologically attitude, way to say you're the adversary. you're the, we may not be in a formal bipolar ideological cold war anymore. but we're not going to allow a new relationship to develop with ah, there was a state of emergency in florida. it's a white nationalist. was about to take stage 3 our day. yeah, we're here. florida is bracing for potential violence today at a speech by white national leader. richard spencer. ok, well do the protesters gathering out? so i just signed up with my son yesterday, but i will say that back to you. all right. and read the notion that they really

were that way to find a stage spencer trying to speak to the noise for the kids with

that stuff. so you know how to check with these guy is grad going to get killed that here. so my, i got, i got this guy color this, hey people who say, oh love we hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, low please. same people to have happened a hey, when i approach randy, you know, i came home. i don't want to talk to you, you know, understand you. he was cool. no problem the whole time. we couldn't really have

a discussion because the camera, you know, you people, question. i don't get tell me what was it was go find more of a sudden, you know, i don't know if i'm talking to you like really and i guess our intimate setting was force known as we were both keep out. so we encounter some police officers. they were treat and randy, how they would treat me on a regular day, you know, just are for what they perceive by his our parents end up one arrest is yeah. and i wanted to say right, this made you got beat on and spin are usually the sped on the back is it usually is, mom was what is he doing wrong? why you haven't been, sit on the ground, do this type of stuff. so we actually started walking and talking and we find out we have things in common, you know, ice and his views about certain bay. it was certain style i'm girl and both. yeah. he was telling me he got involved with his teenage years in the area nation and

asked him how a lot of my friends, the different people get involved and a blow to cripps and different games they join that was around you. so what i was around you and your friends may be involved with whatever happens your mindset is going to be on that. so for me, i just saw the similarities of what my culture would deal with just in a little different way. there's no, there's nothing new up under the sun is was just a different route. they angry white man angry back mer to differently. the angry black man is angry because he has no home. has no vision. yeah, no way to provide angry white people specially low income cause they have so many mental enrollment that you can just turn on the tv and see success. i mean, now i would be proud to have down at the bottom with people when they got to reason . i mean, you know, i'm white. what am i know? it is a d c that you'll see that in your own. and you know,

when you're talking to the doctor, i need you to know what better way to focus setting or that these people have a different color. i say that white man because he's angry because he doesn't really understand what question. and i know that he doesn't even say you got the way out for the blessed wait until the 1st is back. i mean, everybody. that's why it in america has benefited. give me answer that call or suppose they mr. mr. busy right now, give me help me. i got somebody to understand that just massive what my culture as a whole and look it differently just because of my individual encounter. we talk every week, man, 5 to 3 times and we lease that lease due till time your phone calls, you know,

our phone goldhill. we thought it was ours. me. i mean, when you think about what you've done, just in the last month, the turnaround correction, what you've abandoned and what you adopted it's most people can't even lose 10 pounds. they want to lose much less make an entire mental, emotional lifestyle change to humanize town, which allowed them to humanize like that. that's not rocket science, but yeah, it's, it's evading. the majority of the country right now, there's a lot, i could, i could never look at anybody and eric eric umbrella who the nation. anybody got a lot of on the same lack of free and that was part of his narrative and changes his narrative. not that we agree with anything that comes out of the far right. is that we don't ever forget that there are people inside that most people. but you know that there's a human being inside of this person,

right. and we just choose not to forget that you don't really see x, not fina vitamin, you know, have a lot of dialogue as we do. but i mean, i can consider him a friend. i was glad that i could have that effect on randy to open his eyes up to see then you know something different. a c, whatever may have been introduced to him or told him was proven to be a laugh every day in madison. but i think we often think about this and terms of the ways in which they are failing us. they are bad men, they are floating away from us. they are deviant. and i think we need to ask the

other question. also, we need to ask the question and how we are failing them. what kind of ways can we keep them in the center? and part of my answer to that is we have to find ways to keep them validated as men . it's really amazing. when people feel more whole quickly and easily ideology of hate falls away and if you can reconnect them to the people that they thought they hated, it helps know that i'm doing these and they realize that they're actually a part of the solution rather than contributing the problem, the 1st time i've ever felt accepted any shape or form from anybody is actually with y after have another p 5 met just recently. i feel if it's degraded so i want everybody to know the human being here instead of like

a mission. but i have person and to be able to have different cultures and different people here. it's really, it's good to be able to close this to be able to interact because it teaches me that no, we're, you know, all in this together. this is a part of our lucian. farmers are, are evolving into a powerful force and justice, quality, love, peace, compassion. we are operating as human beings from one of 2 places. here allows me to choose which one that is or what happened in the days following happened. it was such a turn out and just seemed that according to support for countering that narrative of white supremacy, it really flooded me with hope. i am proud that i can be

a voice against what i used stamps or i feel like i have i have something to bring to the table among the bigger and better things. while i'm still mindful of what i owe to society. but no one's better served by my guilty machine at this point, including me. me . i fired a r, christine, and a glock at this time said one suspects wrong about molly and you need to die. we're communicating with them and they've got an automatic

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