so important for going into iraq. d ready thing. oil. was that important for going in know in the year 2000 there were 7 countries who did not join the us central bank and look 2001 afghan us then 2003, iraq, 2011. libya and syria. then off of that. yeah, he just, you know, just makes me think that is a motive for invading a country. you mentioned these countries here who essentially got invaded over the past 20 odd years. general wesley clark knew forced our general that he, he came out. he actually started talking publicly about this didn't he said i, i came up, a commander came into my office one day through a stack of papers on my table and said, we're going to meet evading 5 countries and 7 years or something like that, wasn't it right? so you know the story as well. i briefly but it's interesting for me because 911 happened. we knew it was osama bin laden and al qaeda in

afghanistan. we started in afghanistan, 2001, and then we switch to iraq. that's a big question that i believe americans, citizens who live in nato allied countries. you know, we need to start asking questions. why? yeah, if you have any more questions about that, you can watch our special coverage about the anniversary throughout the day. here are naughty international of course, a job ledger on our website r t dot com. ah was fast on into a busy monday here on the international. so good to have your company today. one of the stories, if you just in case you missed that you can catch up on line a germany leading on india to cut its ties with russia and stop cooperating with moscow. and instead in force, the west sanctions, more details for you at

r t e dot com. oh, you know, there was no program when i left i kind of and all of us at life esther hate kind of stumbled our way through it. and then we can take the lessons that we've learned from that and shrink the time frame down. so there's less was less wandering in the wilderness, so to speak. when i was in the move in the last 2 years, before i left, i was struggling with do i want to leave? i like, pardon me, want to leave another part in it has been battle with us. if i leave, i have nothing to fall back on. i have that deposit. do i have nobody to go to? you know me know because i don't live around the last 7 years. i have nothing and sometimes it's hard if they've got a swastika tattooed on their neck. it's hard for them, but just to say, i don't do that anymore. it's kind of a long process. it's not like you just leave it one day and you're like, well,

i'm glad that's over. i had been out of the movement before i got connected with these guys, but i was on my own and didn't talk about it and had a lot of buried shame and guilt. and then i met these guys and i saw, you know, frankly talking arnold dog, it helped me get past that barrier of feeling like i had to hide this from world. that opening up has really just taken my, my viewing process and my solution to a whole other level. really, you've got to find a way to find an affirmation that every discussion, no matter how bad it feels, it is going. you've just got to be able to and i was like, takes guts to do that. try to help them discover the abilities that they have. this is why we don't want to foster dependency. this is why the intervention can't rely on my car is more. they go from being untrusting, hateful, spiteful, distant, to begging for more interaction. another phone call. another meeting, you know, tell me poor and don't be surprised when they say that's the best conversation i've

had in a long time. that is something that's very routine that comes out of people just want to be listened to. and we're trying to teach you how to listen to them. well, we hold a mirror up so the person can see their humanity reflected back at them through our and the one we treat them as human beings treat them for the suffering person that they are. and they, on the receiving end of that, they get to see that, hey there's, there is a human insights. and lastly, i think the incredible power of compassion, it was very impactful. when someone finally came along with no fear, no judgement. she heard my story did nothing to challenge it, but validated. soon as i started talking about, my mother tears came off. i just spilled my guts about everything she had done to me letting her brother rate me and my sister denied the rape happened making us go back around. how many times she she tried to kill me, broken bones,

bruises the starvation, the sleep deprivation, the humiliation making me swallow my own. my brothers and sisters watching is turning my brother against me. keep my sister away from you, like i had never had a chance to just unleash all that. and i probably went on like an hour of just the stuff she did to me. and he says, well, i want to ask you another question. have you ever done this to anyone else? just in that moment it was like i'm just like my mother me. what really changed me was receiving compassion from the people that i least deserved it from

when i least deserved. people knew who i was, it was a small town, they knew what i was capable of and what i'd been doing for years and they didn't attack me. they didn't break the windows of my star, then argue ideologically with me. they came in and they were empathetic towards me, and they treated me with compassion despite the horrible person that i was at the time. the body might offer me a job carrying in antique furniture at cherry hall in jersey mall for weekend 3 days, 100 bucks a day. and i told him, i said i take the job. he was going to tell you, before you say yes, the guy who owns this company is do. and i said, i don't care and i've talked to him, do i want to work for 6 months? still thing i was in the nazi chief would fit every jewish stereotype religious

wearing alligators. i don't bring them right. or you know say where i broke the marble top table and i was like, keith, i'm so stupid. i'm so sorry. 7 bowers frame. who so i so hours a day for the customer, but he just bought it off of very drove me home. i was waiting for him to fire me. so actually, you know, and i remember him not too much on that day, and i just kept my boots on a little seat of his trunk that you couldn't really put them any further than i were. and my knees were hurting so bad because its trying to hold him up there. so for the whole ride home swastikas looks at him every day. like he doesn't normally nazi. and i just wanted to see my boots with him boots and what they did for me.

they dropped me off and they were full pay and take anything on my pay monday. and i was told and i just can wait for 2 things on my feet. everyone back, i'm not scared, i wanted him. i'm done with it. i'm fluid. if it was 2 parts to getting out of a violent extremist group, the 1st part is disengagement, which is where you leave the social group. you leave the behavior you leave, but you probably still have the ideology. you've been given this nice recipe for how the world works and you take that away from somebody and then what do they have, right? they, they were looking for an analysis and you've taken away their analysis. so, you know, what's left drugs. i mean there all kinds of things that they can just sort of fall into. so you have to be very careful about it. and when you're bringing them out,

you will learn them to the risks. this isn't going to be easy and are going to be people that are angry that do this because they've lost someone, they've been better at the time and energy and we do debriefing. you know, if you're going to be on the outside, we need to know everything you know about how it works on the inside cuz you're not going back in. so we're, since we're going to burn those help you burn those bridges. so you can't go back and take everything away that was associated with that world. we take away your white laces. we take away your nazi fly because it's too easy to go back into. the next part is d. radicalization where the belief systems in the ideology are removed . you can't go to go get an anti mental from the cobra. for a cup may get the rates at the same time, it's made that big. that's how they do it, right? we're at the anti event on the end because we have, we had that many in our so we not spew it and we know how to also make it in the anti mental and we had the answer. so i do believe the secret sauce is coming from

a loving place. you can't hate this person and expect to communicate any of that. you can't charge this person and expect to counter that with empathy before you got out what was what was pushing you to want to get out. i wrote jackson, you know, before and after prison or you know, most of my best friends, but it's like, ok in prison. you know, like, you know, you have to be so you pretend to be it. and after a while, before you realize it in a scary is you actually become that image. you were just training. i had myself every day for getting myself locked up. so when i looked at it, what made anybody else more special than me? so i have others. where does that shift come from? how come you? you went from not thinking about that to really saying i need to start making some changes is watch, watch. my son grew up in the heart range and every time watching the family, you know, saying live on the,

on the family because i can be out there. the brothers didn't like that when they found out because they could just let me know. and it's been a big deal, said they, you know, try to kill me. why now? i get shot. go off the road and you know, i'm going to come to the car, breaks the brakes. and i remember slicing child car design. i said yes, good. you need to is mad right across and then we inside my school and opened it up and i was trying to get out. and just to get on time if there was one thing, then someone's talking to someone in that life who may not be aware that there's a way out just saying they go all the have that hey ruins

you poisoned your very soul man. and i left him a lot of human nature since really during the summer in 2016, we started to see a significant consistent increase in the number of incidents reported to our office . we saw between 20152016. the number of anti muslim hate groups tripled an id. every i looking into whether have crime charges will be filed against an alleged white supremacists, accused of stabbing to good samaritans to death on a commuter train. in portland, the guy who did that was someone's had been in the fringes of the all right, movement, the day and he's up on erica lee. the country are great on there that we hear that all the time go back to where you came from and he just amped up that

rhetoric that he wants to take his country back. and so that's that, that's the theme that runs through that. and we're not going to let people come into our country destroy. i saw this guy running for president doing the exact same thing and i couldn't believe that i was hearing it, but i knew that it would work. and that was the frightening thing. because i've seen it work on klan rally and stone mountain georgia. i saw that kind of rhetoric where people were yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. what do we do about their culture? i don't want to know about their culture. if you want your body, you just don't know where to go. what the bucket of gasoline was kicked over and lit up. all those little sparks that already existed into a large forest buyer. part of donald trump's huge appeal was that although he does

not think in terms of race, the way i do, he at least thinks in terms of nation, he recognized that the united states is a nation with a particular people. and that not everybody belongs. this is a great relief to millions of people who have seen their nation transformed in the name of diversity diversity that always comes at the expense of white people. he spoke to some of the things that, that angry white male wants to hear. we're going to put a wall on the border. we're going to make the mexicans pay forward. we're going to bring manufacturing jobs back. so it's a kind of populous messaged white males, combined with racism that was found to be very attractive. and everyone's promises like that idea. well, there's not tens of thousands this hundreds of thousands of them that have an intellectual curiosity and an understanding of national socialism that no skin had ever had. there was a price you paid if you were a public with your big tree,

you're anti semitism. it didn't serve you well in your career. your friends in your neighborhood, really born, excited to hang out with your kids might be embarrassed of you. your parents would be really upsetting you and people learned that those attitudes were not going to be beneficial to their life. i think what we're concerned about now is that blanket and that we put over it, is being pulled back. that it's going to be really hard to put that back where it was ah ah

ah ah, there was a state of emergency in florida. it's a white nationalist, was about to take stage in the free and day. university of florida is bracing for potential violence today of a speech by white national leader, richard spencer, who the protestors gathering outside the site of the the only reason my to say, but i would say that back to you. all right. read the notion that they really were that way to find a stage spencer trying to speak to the noise the

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. so you know how to check with this guy is grad going to get killed that here. so my, i gotta go, he's got color the hey people who say, oh love we hey, hey hey, hey, hey, hey, love piece. same people said happened a message with when i post randy, you know, i came on i don't want to talk to you, you know, understand you. he will cool. no problem the whole time. we couldn't really have a discussion because the camera, you know, you people, question, i don't get down with what was it was go find more of a sudden, you know,

i don't know if i'm talking to you like really and i guess our intimate setting was force known as we were both keep out. so we encountered some police officers. they were treat randy, how they would treat me on a regular day, you know, just awful what they perceive by his our parents end up one arrest in. yeah. and i wanted to say right, this magic got beat on spin. are usually the sped on the back. is it usually it mouth, but what is he doing wrong? why hasn't been sit on the ground, do this type of stuff. so we actually started walking and talking and we find out we have things in common. you know, i some his views about certain bay. it was certain i'm agree on both. yeah. he was telling me he got involved in his teenage years in the area nation. and that's just how a lot of my friends, the different people get involved and obliged to cripps in different games they joined. that's what's around you. so what i was around you and your friends may be involved or whatever happens, your mindset is going to be on that. so for me,

i just saw the similarities of what my culture would deal with just in a little different way. there's no, there's nothing new up on it assign. it was just a different route. they angry, white man, angry or 2 different angry black man is angry because he has no home, has no vision, no way to provide angry white people, especially in a low income cause they have so many mental role models that you can just turn on the tv and see success. i mean, now i would be proud to have down at the bottom with black people and they've got a reason to be you know, i'm white. what am i know? is it easy to see the thing around? and you know, you know, you know, when you're talking to you, you know, what, better way to focus at anger that these people have different color. i just say that white man,

because he's angry because he doesn't really understand was know that america, he doesn't even say you got the way out for the blessed waiting. 3 of the 1st is back. i mean everybody. that's why it in america has benefited on give me answer that color or suppose amos are missing. busy right now giving me or help me. i got somebody to understand not just muscle. me what my culture as a whole and look it differently just because of my individual encounter. every weakness and $23.00 times we lease that lease to kill time phone calls. you know, ours are full goals and we thought was ours me . i mean, when you think about what you've done, just in the last month,

the turn around the correction, the what you've abandoned and what you would opted it's most people can't even lose 10 pounds. they want to lose much less make an entire mental, emotional and lifestyle change to humanize town, which allowed them to humanize your like that, that's not rocket science, but yeah, it's, it's evading. the majority of the country right now, there's a lot, i could, i could never look at anybody in engineering umbrella who nation, anybody who got a lot of on the same lack of free and that was part of his narrative and changes his narrative's. not that we agree with anything that comes out of the far right is that we don't ever forget that there are people inside of those people. you know that there's a human being inside of this person, right. and we just choose not to forget that you don't really see x not seeing blackman, you know, have

a lot of dialogue as we do. but i mean, i can consider him a friend. i was glad i could have that effect on randy to open his eyes up to see then you know something a c. whatever may have been introduced to him or told him was proven to be a last day in madison. but i think we often think about this and terms of the ways in which they are failing us. they are a bad man. they are floating away from us. they are deviant. and i think we need to ask the other question. also, we need to ask the question and how we are failing them. what kind of ways can we

keep them in the center? and part of my answer to that is we have to find ways to keep them validated as men . it's really amazing. when people feel more whole quickly and easily ideology of hate falls away and if you can reconnect them to the people that they thought they hated, it helps know that i'm them. these are that they realize that they're actually a part of the solution rather than contributing to the problem. the 1st time i've ever felt accepted any shape or form from anybody is actually with my wife after have another p 5 mad just recently. i feel if those grades so i want everybody to know that human being here instead of like i miss you touches but i have person to be able to have the different cultures and different people here. it is really good to be able to close this to be able to interact because it

teaches me that, you know, we're, you know, all in this together. this is a part of our emotion, and farmers are evolving into a powerful force, man, justice, quality, from love, peace, compassion. we are operating as human beings from one of 2 places. here are, let me get to choose which one that is still happening in the days following boston happened. it was such a turn out and deem that a mortgage support for countering that narrative of white supremacy. it really flooded me with hope. i am proud that i can be a voice against what i use stamps or i feel like i have

i have something to bring to among the bigger and better things. while i'm still mindful of what i owe to society. but no one's better served by my guilty shame at this point including me me. ready i fart. karen and i are christine in a glock at this time. 71 suspects wrong about molly and you need to communicate with them and he's got automatic weapon. he's running 478315. and every available unit in

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for some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries the united states of america is different wherever people long to be free. they will find a friend in the united states, ah, with you little bit about it all ready? basie. so the city draw, you look at the incentives and we figured a few color revolutions is one among several means to reach the goal of conquering foreign lands and bringing them onto the help of u. s. western economic interest. people inside it. i don't that keep it to everybody did them. okay. yeah. during training class. so know that's

a little bit of a final goal of these thing. revolutions to ensure that there are no independent players in the world anymore. ah. without headlines right now, early results in coming from nigeria presidential election with a ruling parties candidate emerging on in the southwest in the state of a t p. while the position candidate wins a majority in the state of the program, the major raging battles on don bass, the front lines off the follows. russian artillery crews very close to the banks of german chancellor left shoulder seeks to convince prime minister in no range or modi to side with the west against russia. but the indian leader refrained from condemning.