of the united states, in my opinion, i don't believe so. why do you think, daniel, that america, england and some of the nato allies, why do you think they chose the middle east? one i believe oil. and to i believe, to make the middle east unstable. there are certain people who like to control through fear. and if you make the middle east unstable and then you, you keep pushing the narrative terrorists groups. i believe this is a way that they're able to control the people with fear and to be able to have the opportunity to invade other countries. and do you think though, do you think that, you know, you said the oil was so important for going into iraq, do you really think oil? was that important for going and know in the year 2000 there were 7 countries who

did not join the u. s. central bank and look to 1001. i've kind of spent 2003. i rack 2011 livia and syria. then off of that you know, it just makes me think that is a motive for invading a country. you mentioned that these countries here who essentially got invaded over the past 20 years. general wesley clark knew for star general, but he, he came out, he actually started talking publicly about this didn't. he said, i came up a c'mon that came into my office one day through a stack of papers on my table and said, we're going to be invading 5 countries and 7 years or something like that, wasn't it? right? so you know the story as well briefly, but it's interesting for me because 911 happened we knew it was osama bin laden and al qaeda in afghanistan. we started in afghanistan,

2001, and then we switch to iraq. that's a big question that i believe american citizens who live in nato allied countries. you know, we need to start asking questions. why? yeah, you can watch our special coverage of what is essentially a grim anniversary of the war of iraq. and you can watch it all day here at austin international otherwise at your own ledger the website is r t dot com. ah. you know, there was no program when i left i kind of and all of us at life esther hate kind of stumbled. our way through it and then we can take the lessons that we've learned from that and shrink the time frame down. so there's less was less wandering in the wilderness, so to speak. when i was in the move in the last 2 years, before i left,

i was struggling with do i want to leave? i like, pardon me, wanting to leave? another part didn't has been battle with us. if i leave adolescent fall back on, i have to pause it. do i have nobody to go to? you know me know because as i lived around last 7 years i have nothing and sometimes it's hard. if they've got a swastika tattooed on their neck. it's hard for them, but just to say, i don't do that anymore. it's kind of a long process. it's not like you just leave it one day and you're like, well, i'm glad that's over. i had been out of the movement before i got connected with these guys, but i was on my own and didn't talk about it and had a lot of buried shame and guilt. and then i met these guys and i saw, you know, frankly talking arnold dog, it helped me get past that barrier of feeling i had to hide this from world that opening up has really just taken my, my healing process and my evolution to a whole other level really, you've got to find

a way to find an affirmation that every discussion, no matter how bad it feels, it is going. you've just got to be organized like takes guts to do that. try to help them discover the abilities that they have. this is why we don't want to foster dependency. this is why the intervention can't rely on my christmas. they go from being untrusting hateful, spiteful, distant, to begging for more interaction another phone call. another meeting, you know, tell me poor and don't be surprised when they say that's the best conversation i've had in a long time. that is something that's very routine that comes out of people just want to be listened to. and we're trying to teach you how to listen to them. well, we hold a mirror up so the person can see their humanity reflected back of them through our eyes. but when we treat them as human beings treat them for the suffering person that they are. and they, on the receiving end of that, they get to see that, hey, there is, there is a human insights. and lastly, i think the incredible power of compassion, it was very impactful. when someone finally came along with no fear, no judgement,

she heard my story did nothing to challenge it but validated. as soon as i started talking about my mother tears came up. i just spilled my guts about everything she had done to me letting her brother rape me, and my sister denied the rape happened making us go back around. how many times she she tried to kill me, broken bones, bruises the starvation, the sleep deprivation, the humiliation making me swallow my own. my brothers and sisters watching is turning my brother against me. keep my sister away from you, like i had never had a chance to just unleash all. and i probably went on like an hour of just the stuff she did to me. and then he says, well, i want to ask another question. sorry. have you ever done this to anyone else? it just in that moment it was like i'm just like my mother

me what really changed me was receiving compassion from the people that i least deserved it from when i least deserved. people knew who i was, it was a small town, they knew what i was capable of and what i'd been doing for years and they didn't attack me. they didn't break the windows of my star, then argue ideologically with me. they came in and they were empathetic towards me, and they treated me with compassion, despite the horrible person that i was at the time. the

body might offer me a job carrying in antique furniture at cherry hall, new jersey mall for a week, and 3 days 100 bucks a day. and i told him, i said, i think the job is going to tell you before you say yes, the guy who owns this company is do and i so i don't care and i've talked to him, do i want to work for his 6 months? still think it was in the nazi shift would fit every jewish stereotype religious where you like me. i don't bring them right or you know say where i broke the marble top table and i was like keith, i'm so stupid. i'm so sorry. 7 bears for him. so i so hours a day or right for the customer, but he spot it off of very jo,

me home. i was waiting for him to fire me. so actually, you know, and i remember only not too much on that day. and i kept my boots on a little seat of this trunk that you couldn't really put them any further than they were and my knees were hurting so bad because it's china, i'm better so for the whole right own swastika looks at him every day. like he has no money or nazi and i just wanted to see my boots. i knew him in for me. they dropped me off and they were full pay. take anything monday. and i was told i just can wait for 10 things off my feet. everyone back, i'm not scared, i don't want it and i'm done with it. i'm fluid is

there's 2 parts to getting out of a violin extremist group. the 1st part is disengagement, which is where you leave the social group. you leave the behavior you leave, but you probably still have the ideology. you've been given this nice recipe for how the world works and you take that away from somebody and then what do they have, right? they, they were looking for an analysis and you've taken away their analysis. so, you know, what's left drugs. i mean there all kinds of things that they can just sort of fall into. so you have to be very careful about it. and when you're bringing them out, you will alert them to the risks. this isn't going to be easy and they're going to be people that are angry that do this because they've lost someone, they've invested the time and energy and we do debriefing. you're going to, if you're going to be on the outside, we need to know everything you know about how it works on the inside, cuz you're not going back in. so we're, since we're going to burn those help you burn those bridges. so you can't go back and take everything away that was associated with that world. we take away your white laces. we take away your nazi fly because it's too easy to go back into. the

next part is d. radicalization where the belief systems in the audiology are removed or you can go to go get an anti metabolic cobra for a couple weeks, may get your rates at the same time, it's made that big. that's how they do it, right? we're at the anti event on the man because we have, we had that man, i'm in austin. we know how to spew it and we know how to also make it into anti mental and we had the answer. so i do believe the secret sauce is coming from a loving place. you can't hate this person and expect to communicate any of that. you can't charge this person and expect to calmer, that with empathy before you got out what was what was pushing you to want to get all i wrote jackson, you know, before and after president, you know, most of my best friends, but it's like ok in prison you know, like, you know how you have to be so you can be it. and after a while, before you realize it in a scary is you actually become that image. you were just training. i had myself

every day for getting myself locked up. so when i looked at it, what made anybody else more special than me? so i have of them. where does that shift come from? how come you one, you went from? not thinking about that to really saying i need to start making some changes. is watch, watch much longer up but it's hard and every time i only say live on the, on the family because i can be out there. the brothers didn't like that when they found out because they could just let me know when they do, said they, you know, try to kill me. why now i get shot. go off the road and i'm going to come to the car breaks the breaks, and i remember slicing, child call us up, right. like i said, yes,

this is good. you need to is mad right across. and then we inside the school and open this i up, i'm trying to get out. i just to get on time. if there's one thing someone's talking about, what if someone in that life who may not be aware that there's a way out, what would you say go all the have that have ruins. you poisoned your very own and i was going to lot of human since really during the summer in 2016, we started to see a significant consistent increase in the number of incidents reported to our office . we saw between 20152016. the number of anti muslim hate groups tripled an id

every i walking into whether have crime charges will be filed against an alleged white supremacists, accused of stabbing to good samaritans to death on a commuter train. in portland. the guy who did that was someone who had been in the fringes of the all right, movement the day and he's up on their way. the country are great on their homepage, or do we hear that all the time go back to where you came from and he just amped up that rhetoric that he wants to take his country back. and so that's that, that's the theme that runs through that. and we're not going to let people come into our country. it's troy. i saw this guy running for president doing the exact same thing and i couldn't believe that i was hearing it, but i knew that it would work. and that was the frightening thing. because i've seen it work on klan rally and stone mountain georgia. i saw that kind of rhetoric where people are yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. what do we do about their culture?

i don't want to know about their culture in your body. you could just go back to much, much because it was a bucket of gasoline was kicked over and lit up. all those little sparks that already existed into a large forest fire. part of donald trump's huge appeal was that although he does not think in terms of race, the way i do, he at least thinks in terms of nation, he recognized that the united states is a nation with a particular people. and that not everybody belongs here. this is a great relief to millions of people who have seen their nation transformed in the name of diversity diversity that always comes at the expense of white. we spoke to some of the things that, that angry white male wants to hear. we're going to put

a wall on the border. we're going to make the mexicans pay forward. we're going to bring manufacturing jobs back. so it's a populous message. white males combined with racism that was found to be very attractive and everyone's premises like that idea. one does not tens of thousands this hundreds of thousands of them that have an intellectual curiosity and an understanding of national socialism that no skin had ever had. there was a price you paid. if you were public with your bigotry or anti semitism, it didn't serve you well in your career. your friends in your neighborhood, really burnt, excited to hang out with. your kids might be embarrassed of you. your parents would be really upsetting you and people learned that those attitudes were not going to be beneficial to their life. i think what we're concerned about now is that blanket and that we put over it is being pulled back. that it's going to be really hard to put that back where it was with

a wrong one. i just don't move any rules. yes. to see about the same because of the answer to an engagement. it was the trail when so many find themselves will the parts we choose to look for common ground? ah, there was a state of emergency in florida. it's a white nationalist. was about to take stage 3 our day. yeah, we're here florida. is grayson for potential violence today at

a speech by white national leader, richard spencer? who do the protesters gathering out? so i just signed up with my son yesterday, but i will say that back to you all right. and read the notion that they really were the way to find a stage spencer trying to speak to the noise or the chip with

a, [000:00:00;00] with that stuff. so he shared with his guy, you guys gonna get killed that here. so my, i got, i got this guy coming. hey people who say, oh love we hey, hey hey, hey hey,

we're pretty slow please. same people had a message with when i was randy, you know i came home. i don't want to talk to you, you know, understand you. he was cool. no problem the whole time. we couldn't really have a discussion because the camera, you know, you people pushy, i don't get tell us what it was. it was to find more really intimate said neil, i don't know if i'm talking to you. like really? and i guess our intimate setting was force known as we were both keep out. so we encounter some police officers. they were treat and randy, how they would treat me on a regular day, you know, just are for what they perceive by his our parents is end of one arrest in. yeah, i right, this made you got beat on spin. are usually the sped on the back. is it usually it mound was what is he doing wrong? why you haven't been, sit on the ground,

do this type of stuff. so we actually started walking and talking and we found out we have things in common. you know, i some, his views about certain bay. it was certain style i'm girl and both. yeah. he was telling me he got involved with his teenage years in the area nation and asked him how a lot of my friends, the liberal people get involved and a blow to cripps in different games they join. that's what's around you. so whatever is around you and your friends may be involved with whatever happens you're, my state is going to be on that. so for me, i just saw the similarities of what my culture would deal with just in a little different way. there's no, there's nothing new up on it. a son. his was just a different route. they angry white man, angry by 2 different people. the angry black man is angry because he has no home has no vision. yeah, no way to provide a reweigh people, especially in a low income cause they have so many mental and role models that you can just turn on the tv and see success. i mean,

now i will be deprived to it down at the bottom with black people when they got a reason to be that you know, i'm white. what am i know? it is a deep seated anger and, and you know, you know, no one year dr. dr. any, you know, better way to focus on it or that these people is a different color, i guess a white man because he's angry cuz he doesn't really understand was questioning. oh, i know that he doesn't even say i got the way out for the blessed went to the back. i mean, everybody. that's why it in america has benefited. give me answer that call or suppose they miss or miss you busy right now giving me or help me. i got somebody to understand not just myself,

but my culture as a whole and look it differently just because of my individual encounter every week . man, 23 times a week. that is due to time phone calls, you know, hours, phone goldhill we've done was ours. me . when you think about what you've done, just in the last month, the turn around the correction, the what you've abandoned and what you would opted it's most people can't even lose 10 pounds. they want to lose much less make an entire mental, emotional lifestyle change to humanize town, which allows you to humanize your like that. that's not rocket science, but yeah, it's, it's evading. the majority of the country, right? there's a lot, i could, i could never get anybody and eric eric and brotherhood nation. anybody on the same last like

a free and then that was part of his narrative and to changes his narrative. not that we agree with anything that comes out of the far right is that we don't ever forget that there are people inside of us people as a human being inside of this person, right. and we just choose not to forget that you don't really see x, not seeing that them in you know, have a lot of dialogue as we do. but i mean, i can consider him a friend. i was glad that i could have that effect on randy to open his eyes up to see then you know something different. a c, whatever may have been introduced to him or told him was proven to be a laugh every day. me

mad a soul, but i think we often think about this and terms of the ways in which they are failing us. they are a bad man. they are floating away from us. they are deviant. and i think we need to ask the other question also. we need to ask the question and how we are failing them. what kind of ways can we keep them in the center? and part of my answer to that is we have to find ways to keep them validated as men . it's really amazing. when people feel more whole quickly and easily ideology of hate falls away and if you can reconnect them to the people that they thought they hated, it helps build that i'm doing these. and then they realize that there are actually a part of the solution rather than contributing to the problem. the 1st time i've

ever felt accepted any shape or form from anybody is actually with my wife after have another p 5 med just recently. i feel as if those 2 grades, so i want everybody to know the human been year instead of like mission touches. but i have person to be able to have the different cultures and different people here. it's really, it's good to be able to close this to be able to interact because it teaches me that no, we're all in this together. this is a part of our solution and farmers are, are evolving into a powerful force. man, justice, quality, love, peace, compassion. we are operating as human beings from one of 2 places here or less. i mean get to choose which one that is or

will happen in the days following happened. it was such a turn out and just seemed that support for countering that narrative of white supremacy. it really flooded me with hope. i am proud that i can be a voice against what i used to stamps or i feel like i have i have something to bring along the bigger and better things. while i'm still mindful of what i owe to society. but no one's better served by my realtor. shame at this point, including me. me . i fired karen and they are christine and

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