and with me they will kind of succeed. so basically the people at the very bottom are going to pay for the misstates of the people at the very top that decided to go to the casino and prince a lot of monopoly money. okay, just a couple more stories to fit in. i want to show you this a rack where hundreds of protesters took to the streets outside the country, central bank in baghdad, after it valued the national currency at many of them, waved iraqi flags and held bombers with slogans critical. and all the governments policy, the protest kicked off to the national currency. the diner fell to its lowest value in history compared to the u. s. dollar. dozens of police were deployed in front of the bank and surrounding areas. no clashes or arrests were reported earlier. we spoke with a member of the iraqi parliament who say that government needs to focus on the quality of life from people who so to there would be just was run which again amendment to go to a low. as you know, there's

a propositional law that will be presented to the palmer or is to be presented to apartment. what is you us with regard to that positions of live work people? yeah, they are no mistake. you said the measures with regard to the bellows on, after you of the shortage of the arms. these measures may operate on fair or the egypt. formerly, that all the be more time, good know, months, year through. so the me dying i, the government does, who are to deal with, with the problems of the archies and terms of conditions of life in supplying basic goods. ah, okay. i adopt it from moscow. this monday, hundreds of people have been evacuated to safety after thick smoke filled a metro station. busy in the center of the capital, according to the city's transport department, the fire at the sport of nice station was caused by

a faults with the electric motor in one train courage. you would be absolutely scared with these things, wouldn't you? i, emergency services are working. there are train movements by the way, on the red line of the historic moscow metro hopping stop in one dye rec shovel for some clarification on that story. in the coming hours. china has offered a piece proposal to and the ukraine conflict next, cross talk gets into the detail of box on debates whether certain western states are actually interested in seeing violence. and ah

hello and welcome to cross top where all things are considered i'm funeral about is ending the conflict in ukraine on the agenda. maybe china has offered a proposal. it appears the u. k. france and germany are sounding out the zalinski regime on a proposal of their own. all will come to nothing if russia's interests are not respected. ah, to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, martin j america. she's an award winning journalist and commentator. and in budapest we have george semi while he's a podcast, or at the gaggle which can be found on youtube and locals, or a gentleman crossed up rules and effect. that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate it. i start out with george in budapest, george, you know, is peace in the air. i mean, there piece proposals coming out now the job. i need to come come out with

a 12 point program. what's coming out of the u. k. for france and germany is a bit unclear, but it is being, it's making the rounds that there are sounding out as i said in my introduction as the landscape regime on how to move forward. i think there's some kind of reckoning going on here, but it doesn't mean it's going to end. well, hear your thoughts on both proposals, other proposals or proposals, which george i did give away the punch line a moment. the striking thing about requote it from the wall street journal about this you k for germany, proposal is that there is no one sentence, not one word about russia's security concerns. so it will talk about, well, what, what, what can we do to provide some security for ukraine, and how do we mount and early offensive by zalinski so that he can be put in

a stronger position. well that, that go she, asians, and can we liberate all of that done by a dumbass? leave me a for a later date. there's nothing, not one word about what this conflict has been all about. why russia launched this last year, which is russia security concerns? and there isn't, i have no idea of it. or, you know, now, was this because of the, these reporters of little will say journal, was it because of the leaders of the nato allies. but as long as they don't consider roches problems or issues that russia has been raising for many years about nato expansion and about guarantees that have some kind of marriage, not just something that they're well, we'll say something today. and then we'll change our minds more than in the to be

any kind of peace. negotiations with chinese of proposals were interesting and well, largely dismissed by the nato countries are interesting. that's the one who did this wisdom was the landscape himself knows the latest. i think is trying to think that the charm is away anywhere and that he can get a meeting with being american before things come over the side. otherwise, i don't think to be honest that the chinese proposals are going to go anywhere either. you know, i guess you would need some script writers from, from washington and london to pull a rabbit martin. let's stay with the chinese one because i agree with george here. part of it. and i'm going to read part of it. your country should quote, prevent block confrontation. i think we know that that's a reference to a nato and work towards building quote, a balance effective and sustainable european security architecture. that's exactly

what george was talking about martin. yeah, i think the real problem here is, even though western elise are beginning to realize that they need to start looking at a solution for ukraine. they're taking so long about stepping in this direction. you know, you talk about the script writers and i think we need to script writers with dumb and dumber or c. call for show macro. because the kind of statements that are coming from these comes are just incredible. absolutely astounding. i mean, how, turn death of the situation can you be? it seems that both of these slater's can agree on one thing they want. now a deadline, they want something set in progress for peace talk. so they seem to agree on a fundamental position which we haven't had before. the news is so landscape is the problem. that's what they've agreed on,

thus reading in between the line just so this guy isn't moving and direction. we need to move and you talk about about landscape problems. what i think is interesting is that the west france and germany, they have their own problems. and what we're witnessing now is a shift towards this narrative of we need to get a piece process moving and moving quite quickly because macro and show. so thinking about their own political back, we're going to see the thing about their own comes and how much longer the situation go on for because you have now a key dates coming out, which is 2024. that seems like a long way away. but the binding comes recognize that from the summer onwards, he's gonna have to start campaigning. even going to places like flint, which is afraid of catchy, also supporting disease in front. and he's going to explain to humble americans who are struggling to eat or even survive. why he hasn't pumped under billions of

dollars into jobs of cur rose hospitals instead of funding a war in a country which they can't find a map of the world. so you've got this dichotomy of logic going on, i think, between landscape and the west and europe. the pins, look at the problem slightly differently from macros shows, but i mean show, says so tone. death is so out of touch. reality is it just recently visited brazil, so have a good rest countries. ok, they can stir up some sort when taken ism, against russia from most countries. i mean, what time is this going on? you know, obviously that back then, you know, it's going to georgia right now, but, you know, we're talking about peace proposals and because we record reported by the journal that the, the, the british, the french and the germans are sounding out, lindsey, but i mean, look, buying was in, in ken, okay. and in warsaw when some of the most bombastic language that we heard from

a long time from a, a man that just can't really deliver it anymore. and you know, so who cares what the camera being leaders have to say? i mean, it's so interesting is the one of the biggest loser and all this is europe. i mean, you know, you have still traveling around the world while the americans alleged by seen or heard destroy his probably his pride and joy, a fueling german economy. does the european economy i have to re with mark it is a bit delusional, but really, who cares what piece proposals come out of western capital? it has to come out of washington. don't know exactly right, and this is what, what is so astonishing. and it's particularly when it comes to germany, germany, the economic powerhouse a, which is their pride and joy that they become this great. a global economic power is being jeopardized openly contemptuous. they buy the united states and you have to wonder about the german public. everything, you know, even a stand for this,

or you that tolerate, essentially being relegated to a kind of a 2nd class status as a, as an economic power a seemingly they are. and what's interesting about the, you know, what i mean, you just said that the americans are the ones who are the driving force folders. and as long as they can ignore every piece proposal, they can go on a whipping out their checkbook. and this is another $10000000000.00, and then they can ignore all of the proposals coming out of your ability to read doesn't matter what shows micron or what else. and, you know, now we're going to carry out there is if the british decide to join forces with the french and the germans. and that's why i thought, well, then maybe something interesting here. when i, when i saw the headlight, the british of now joined the french germans because i think the americans and might be isolated. but as i said earlier, i, you know, i don't think there's anything here that will be of any interest but of the americans. good luggage,

zalinski any time which isn't. so the oldest talk about us. well, we go, you know, we, you know, week we, everything is, depends on zelinski and, you know, we, you know, he's his war and we don't know. nothing depends on zelinski. everything depends on washington because it's washington just simply has given him an open checkbook in martin, in the following on what georgia said there. i mean, this is a case of moral hazard. i mean, events, he has no inkling until a nation whatsoever to change what's going on now. i mean, look, as you said, when biting goes on the campaign, you know, he's going to be asking, why are you paying the pensions of ukrainians? why are you paying for their healthcare? why are you paying for everything else? i mean, we, we, everyone knows this incident that happened in ohio. i mean, the stark contrast. there is a parent for all to see. so i, i don't see zalinski. i mean, if it's all, you know, nothing about zelinski without zalinski. i don't see has any reason to change his behavior right now, the checks. okay. continue to come in. exactly. and i think that's really the key

point. i'm george's point, this is a fascinating mom. you know, there is no real impetus yet, but there could be, and i think it some pretty fascinating. but the, when you boil down the essence, what micron and shoots are saying is landscape which it could be we could, because it could be forgiven for making mockery of coke creating levity of it. because it is an iris, in the respect of the french and germans of sciences and skate, look, we need you to move towards a some. so a piece tools with russia and to encourage you to do thought, what we proposing to do is give you a whole ton load more of guns and ammo, and cash and whatever you need. because that would actually help you negotiate and also describe what your viewers understand essentially everything up to nato membership. so some kind of security arrangement, a lot more cast and a lot more weapons. okay, so martin, so lindsey, except that,

but i would the russians except got a dog through the russians and that's the, that's is what makes this a mockery of everything. keep going more. yeah, i think i've been, i've been brushed of the equation, but i don't think that will last too long. i think it may be media media place, big role here. but for the moment, you know, then sky has no real incentive. what i think could happen. and, and i think some certain corners of someone list of alluded to this is, i think, a certain point that relationship between a europe is going to run into difficult. ronald runs a rough forces and it's already happening. you can see the there are some indications of this already, but i think at a certain point they deal, i feel quite wrong page. i think the europeans are in a very strong position because finally it will be shown so it will be micron. you can actually say to landscape, look with

a lot of this. if you don't play along and take a proposal seriously, we may, will actually cut funding to you. we might actually reduce counter your point in shields. goes road where they always have and lead to better book, and washington will, will promote a regime change in germany, georgia. i'm not crazy. they could do that george, though they absolutely will do that. i mean, the americans of been very, very wary about short. so the beginning of this talk about many times before the americans have never trusted. the german social democrats going back to the 19th through the seventy's with billy brown's help which through to, to 1000 with gaff, schroeder, they just don't like the social democrats and they would love to see the back of shoals. and you know, we still have contemptuously, they treated trolls. so i'm really in a bad book is very much the bus and they have in mind towards happy go to a hard break after that hard break will continue our discussion on real estate

authority. ah, who is the aggressor today? i'm authorizing the additional strong sanctions. today russia is the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. a number that's constantly growing. i figure which of the problems to cause shown here as we speak on the billing is pretty much the mind. the we're, we're banding all in ports of russian oil and gas, new g i. g with the, with regard to joe biden, imposing the sanctions on russia. has destroyed the american economy, so there's your boomerang. ah

ah, welcome back to cross not we're all things considered on peter labelle. this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news. ah, let's go back to martin america learning attorney interesting. the, the, the media is blood with allegations the china has already been, or may start applying arms to show russia. i see no indication the russian needs arms, but okay, these are the media stories. i also, this ridiculous talk about russia and china getting closer together is that suddenly appeared to some people. this is something that's been going on for a very long time, and i find it really astounding mainstream you. oh, my goodness, you know,

they are very much asleep at the wheel here. okay. and one more thing here. i think it was the munich and the chinese foreign minister. he was challenged by our old favorite john, joseph bro. the foreign policies are of the european union, and he said, you know, if we crossing one of the red lines of china supplied arms to russia and he said, when you supply a furnace, be great. so what is the difference? he said, a very big difference and apparently ran for the door, didn't answer what that difference. it's one of these anything remarkable about world leaders. not replying to joseph burley question, see, she's been indian circle foreign policy. i think this is a major story. i mean, i hate to keep telling me that because i'm a journalist, but i do think it's me to start. i think this is a real story about how selective western media is when it touches china. you know, it just roots out all the nuances and sticks of the cliches from the beginning. it

isn't really a story at all. the china is getting and spreads with russia and getting involved in the arms race which has been created by the west from just just a few weeks ago. if you remember, the panic we experienced over tanks. thanks for the new subject and tanks them are contained some german times leopold 2 tanks of 2 tanks. and the, and the british challenge of things is all, become a big story, which we haven't heard about much in the last few weeks because no one believes it, no one believes and will ever get round descending. abrams and one saying that even if he does what numbers you talking about? i still think of something stupid. i mean, i don't really make any sense. i think china is a media story, i think has been distorted like other tea stories which have been secured and distorted, to sit to fit a certain narrative. the main one for me is the panic will be seen between biden's come and landscape just a few years ago. so let's see, was in washington. what was it doing there?

well, as he was being brief, bye bye to telling him to get move on the certain things. i don't think it to that very seriously. it seems the bible was affected by this and felt the need to send a few key officials just a landscape. and namely, burns to see a director to a firm a point which took a credit. and it's really aims me submit this, but what post actually did report, they did actually write in a rather new and hybrid article, which probably few people read. they actually did make the point the, the burden administration is delivering the message is the landscape which is that you haven't got too much time. and the reason why you haven't got too much time to go ahead and achieve any other gains of the american. so to make on the battlefield is because i lean republicans in america are given by a coded message that you are spending spree now with, with, with ukraine. but it can't continue. we're not saying we're going to cut it. we won't agree to the huge amounts that we signed off before. now we're in the house

and buying house, transmitted this message to the craters. and he's basically said, look, you've gone to some of the end of summer because then things start getting really difficult. you're going through kit a phenomenal rate. i mean, this is a record breaking. you know, this is the military record is being broken here. the mountain kid that he goes through is just unbelievable. no one can, no one knows where it goes, where ends up being used on the front. okay. it's clear, okay, got ga, ga, ga. mean the. ringback learning makes some very smart point here, but the rhetoric is not changing the benefit, the doubling down on the rhetoric. but then we have all this background stuff, you know, you know, time is running out. you have to, we have to make a case, you know, is that can go that can exist side by side for too much longer. george. now i do think that the as always hedging their bets, you know, they're,

they're talking out of both sides of them out. so you have the one and you have biden doing the whole gung ho thing in the also and, and then you have the, they leave the stories for the washington post that way. if this turns out, well hey, it was all because we, we, we, how often we show to watch was if things don't turn out, well, we can blame it on zillow and see what we don't to get off. so it's something for everyone. americans always do this is always the sort of the hard liners on the soft line is, and then, you know, you take your pick depending on how it works up. but going back to your point about china or instantly, the friendship between russia and china, you know, goes back to the yeltsin era. i mean that's, that's when really they began and it was obviously an expression that russian weakness vulnerability. they needed to find that ally,

and this has been growing in strength, year after year. now, some people have woken up to this, as it won't look, russia, china, very close. we need to split them up with neither side as the slightest interest that will well, i better join forces with the americans against the chinese, you know, so that's a really good idea. that's a great strategy. and on top of it, martin with news reports that are more advisors are going to taiwan. and so blink and wants to challenge his chinese counterpart about rules based order and all this. and the chinese have to say, why are you putting more advisors technicians, whatever work you want to use on taiwan, which you the united states recognize as part of china. ok, so why would the chinese have any interest in changing course right now when they see their flag table ran, or

a rough rattling and that's something they take very seriously mark. yeah, and i think that chinese are probably more than the well, the most countries of such that rather unsafe free mentions of obama when referring to joe biden, which applies totally to biden's foreign policy initiatives since taking office, you know, don't underestimate your buttons ability to slip on top of the racing, of course, you know, name one foreign policy initiative, the biden can actually say nails done good here. you my own the ne pipelines actually and a lot of voters will resume. a lot of them will, will, will connect with that because that show in the arms, the american economy, that it created growth that created jobs. and i get the longer term when we look at the foreign policy layer, you know, wherever boyden goes, he usually messes things up, you know? and i wonder whether the tie one story is really a me to distraction,

to shift the media narrative now away from ukraine. from august, september, october onwards. swift things are going to get really tough and you cry when these tanks, even if they arrives, you know, they're not gonna make any real difference. i mean, if your input institution, now you're talking to your generals generals, surely it must be plenty the spring offensive because an option to that with a gap that, you know, and i wrote about it from western media who, you know, military people, journalists, are much better informed than i am talking about, it's pretty offensive. and so i think this is really spooking by, you know, he's got a count down now from the summer onwards to being reelected. and that time is not on his side. you know, when, when the stories turn against him in ukraine, i think he will be looking for a new story on the policy circuit and china. and so one seems to be right, particularly when britain this helping him so much i'm ashamed to say or maybe we'll have another spats of balloons. who knows?

this is that that was another one of those interesting cane laurie. yeah, we have been fascinated in church. so you don't have talked about this on our podcast. um if a really was democrat versus republican, if it was really conservative versus liberal in one to win, oh, exploits biden's war, it's going badly. it's very, very expensive. and i'm you and i have been bewildered by this wherever. okay? because it is biden's war. he has a tendency to, you know, what with foreign policy. it's a no brainer, but it shows, but it really shows mostly the curtain away. and you can see the unified polar and they of the unit party, the war party, and the military industrial complex. their interest is beyond politics. go ahead, georgia is exactly right. the republicans in, as i have an open goal and they do seem to be able to just take the whole, you know, it's there right. this is not, it just knocked it over the line. yeah. it's quite extraordinary because we know

that had it been the other way around, and trump for president the was going on in ukraine, the democrats will be saying this is trump's law. this is from florida. and, but he says, you know, the republicans are kind of, you know, all over the place. and that's because they have this atavistic attitude toward russia. then they said they simply, you know, to them, you know, even though they dislike biting the, you know, they buy them and everything, but the somehow, you know, russia still embodiment of evil and the book it the best that they can come up with . well, biden should have sent the weaponry sooner. he should have done more earlier. he should have been taught that's. that's why rushing latest bite was weak as this other now finally come up with the house to answer the question. yeah, it's, it's by insult. he was too weak to show it, make great to put it whatever it is he was supposed to make clear to prove it. and that's, you know,

and that's it. and that's why i think republicans will fail to exploit because as, as martin said, yeah, i mean things to really blow up in bite and say and, and where electrically he should be punished. the republicans are just simply go to bungle it. okay. but let me one minute left, there's a martin. and the, even though i, the republicans will continue to go along with biden's ukraine policy. i don't think that's going to be the case in europe because we just have these massive protests in berlin over the last new cycle there. it's more than rhetoric. this is, this is every day live life in germany. it wasn't supposed to cost you when it comes to eggs and comp and c knows and going out in the evening. now it is last 45 seconds deal. yeah, life is getting tougher and it takes a while. so the average man street to understand the dynamics of a huge issue like the war and effects his pocket heating bills, just gone through the roof 34 times in the u. k. for example,

i've mentioned before in the u. k, we have pensions now freezing to death in their apartments. germany, germany is economy. i think this week, it economists said it is now officially in recession. and a lot of german companies announce, flocking to america, to set up companies that just to stay in the game. but you know, by them i think and coming to europe is going to be the problem sooner enough. sure . i mean these people cannot hang on. so much longer and i think micro and shows quite sensitive to that they do understand that the time is running out for them. but i think also, i wonder, we talked about republicans in america and biden, i wonder if the night miss nor if you're going to relating to president. sure elections is, but it becomes a one issue race which will be then that that's a question for another program. we run out of time when it gets america, and in budapest i think our viewers for watching us here are see you next time. remember, cross back rules with

a hungry brown b. i tell nord stream pipelines to restock down coals, right. do an investigation stressing that such an incident can never be repeated. also, problems will be made a scapegoat for africa. problems are rolled into a tug of war for influence there. so say is president micron of it's for nation through the country. i think the authorities, the 9th is really settlers for their par day and violent riots in the west bank which left at least one pallet to me and dead and wounded more than.