reasons are compared to the holocaust just 2 decades later after the massacre in nam may be a hitler's assault unit foot on the same brown colonial uniform which push the world into the chasm of the 2nd world war you know, there was no program when i left i kind of and all of us at life, esther hate kind of stumbled our way through it. and then we can take the lessons that we've learned from that and shrink the time frame down. so there's less less wandering in the wilderness so to speak. when i was in the move in the last 2 years before i left, i was struggling with do i want to leave? i like, pardon me, want to leave another part in battle with us. if i leave, i have nothing to fall back on. i have that deposit, do i have nobody to go to? you know me and live around last 7 years. i have nothing and sometimes it's hard. if they've got a swastika tattooed on their neck, it's hard for them,

but just to say, i don't do that anymore. it's kind of a long process. it's not like you just leave it one day and you're like, well, i'm glad that's over. i had been out of the movement before i got connected with these guys, but i was on my own and didn't talk about it. and had a lot of buried shame and guilt. and then i met these guys and i saw, you know, frankly talking arnold dog. it helped me get past that barrier of feeling like i had to hide this from world that opening up has really just taken my, my viewing process and my solution to a whole other level. really, you've got to find a way to find an affirmation that every discussion, no matter how bad it feels, it is going. you've just got to be able to. now it's like takes guts to do that. try to help them discover the abilities that they have. this is why we don't want to foster dependency. this is why the intervention can't rely on my car is more. they go from being untrusting, hateful, spiteful, distant to begging for more interaction. another phone call. another meeting,

you know, tell me poor and don't be surprised when they say that's the best conversation i've had in a long time. that is something that's very routine that comes out of people just want to be listened to. and we're trying to teach you how to listen to them while we hold a mirror up. so the person can see their humanity reflected back at them through our when we treat them as human beings treat them for the suffering person that they are. and they, on the receiving end of that, they get to see that, hey there's, there is a human insights. and that's the, i think, the incredible power of compassion. it was very impactful. when someone finally came along with no fear, no judgement. she heard my story did nothing to challenge it but validated. as soon as i started talking about my mother, tears came out. i just spilled my guts about everything she had done to me. letting her brother raised me and my sister denied the rape half and making us go back

around. how many kind of she she tried to kill me, broken bones, bruises the starvation, the sleep deprivation, the humiliation making me swallow my own. my brothers and sisters watching is turning my brother against me. keep my sister away from me like i had never had a chance to just unleash dollars. and i probably went on like an hour of just the stuff she did to me. and he says, well, i want to ask another question, have you ever done this to anyone else? just in that moment it was like i'm just like my mother me what really

changed me was receiving compassion from the people that i least deserved of from when i least deserved. people knew who i was, it was a small town. they knew what i was capable of and what i'd been doing for years and they didn't attack me. they didn't break the windows of my star, then argue ideologically with me. they came in and they were empathetic towards me . and they treated me with compassion despite the horrible person that i was at the time the buddy might offer me a job carrying in antique furniture at cherry hall, new jersey, long for weekend 3 days, 100 bucks a day. and i told him, i said i take the job, he was going to tell you, before you say yes, the guy who owns this company is due. and i said,

i cannot talk to him. do i want to work for 6 months still thing i was in the chief would fit every jewish stereotype. religious wearing alligators. i don't bring them right. are you say a marble top table and i was like, i'm so stupid. i'm so sorry. 7 bears frame. who so i so hours a day, right for the customer, but he spot it off of very drove me home. i was waiting for him to fire me. so actually, you know, and i remember only not too much on that day, and i just kept my boots under the little seat of his trunk that we were in. and you couldn't really put them any further than i were. and i'm going to my knees were hurting so bad because it's china on unfair. so for the whole right,

swastikas looks at him every day. like he doesn't know many nazi and i just want him to see my boots with him boots and what he did for me. they dropped me off and they were full pay me on my pay monday and i walked home and i just can wake up things or feed me back. i'm not scared wanted i'm i'm done with it. i'm fluid. it was 2 parts to getting out of a violent extremist group. the 1st part is disengagement, which is where you leave the social group. you leave the behavior you leave, but you probably still have the ideology. you've been given this nice recipe for how the world works. and you take that away from somebody and then why do they have, right they, they were looking for an analysis and you've taken away their analysis. so,

you know, what's left drugs, i mean there all kinds of things that they can just sort of fall into. so you have to be very careful about it and when you're bringing them out, you will alert them to the risks. this isn't going to be easy and they're going to be people are angry that do this because they've lost someone. they've been better time and energy and we do debriefing. you're going to, if you're going to be on the outside, we need to know everything you know about how it works on the inside cuz you're not going back in. so we're, since we're going to burn those help you burn those bridges. so you can't go back and take everything away that was associated with that world. we take away your white laces. we take away, you're not to fly because it's too easy to go back. and the next part is de radicalization where the belief systems in the audiologist are removed or you can go to go get an anti mental from the cobra for a couple years. may get the rates at the same time, it's a bit bigger. that's how they do it. we're like the anti event on the demand because we have, we had that many in our so we not us view it and we know how to also make it an

anti mental and we had the answer. so i do believe the secret sauce is coming from a loving place. you can't hate this person and expect to communicate any of that. you can't charge this person and expect to counter that with empathy before you got out what was what was pushing you to want to get off. i wrote jackson me, you know, before and after present, you know, most of my best friends, but it's like, ok in prison. you know, like, you know how you have to be. so you tend to be it. and after a while, before you realize it in a scary is you actually become that image. you were just training. i had myself every day for getting myself locked up. so when i looked at it, what made anybody else more special than me? so i hate and so where does that shift come from? how come in one day you went from? not thinking about that to really saying i need to start making some changes in watch. see, watching my son grew up and visit but was heart wrenching every time. i was only

saying i live on the, on the family because i can be out there. the brothers didn't like that when they found out because i mean, it just left me a little bit of a deal. said they, you know, try to kill me. why now? i get shot. go all through. and i'm, you know, i'm going to come to the car breaks the brakes and i remember slicing child car design. if i and i said yes, this is good. you need to is mad right across. and then we inside my school and open this up. i'm trying to get out and just to get on time if there was one thing, then someone stuck and someone in that life who may not be aware that

there is a way out. what would you say they go all the have that hey, ruins you poisons you're very so man. i'm a lot of human since really during the summer, in 2016, we started to see a significant consistent increase in the number of incidents reported to our office . we saw between 20152016. the number of anti muslim hate groups tripled. tonight. the every i walking into whether have crime charges will be filed against him, alleged white supremacists, accused of stabbing to good samaritans to death on a commuter train. in portland, the guy who did that was someone who had been in the fringes of the all right movement america. the country are great on their face

that we hear that all the time go back to where you came from. and he just amped up that rhetoric that he wants to take his country back. and so that's that's, that's the theme that runs through that. and we're not going to let people come into our country destroyer. i saw this guy running for president doing the exact same thing and i couldn't believe that i was hearing it, but i knew that it would work. and that was the frightening thing because i've seen it work on klan rally and stone mountain georgia. i saw that kind of rhetoric where people are yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. what do we do about their culture? i don't want to know about their culture in your body. you could just go home, you know where to go. what the merch bucket of gasoline was kicked over and lit up. all those little sparks that already

existed into a large forest fire. part of donald trump's huge appeal was that although he does not think in terms of race, the way i do, he at least thinks in terms of nation, he recognized that the united states is a nation with a particular people. and that not everybody belongs here. this is a great, a to millions of white people who have seen their nation transformed the name of diversity. diversity that always comes at the expense of white people. he spoke to some, you know, some of the things that, that angry white male wants to hear. we're gonna put a wall on the border. we're going to make the mexicans pay ford. we're going to bring manufacturing jobs back as a kind of populous messaged white males, combined with racism, that was found to be very attractive and everyone's premises like that idea as well . those are thousands of tens of thousands. there's hundreds of thousands of them that have an intellectual curiosity and an understanding of national socialism that

no skin had ever had. there was a price you paid if you were a public with your big tree or anti semitism. it didn't serve you well in your career, your friends in your neighborhood really burnt, excited to hang out with you. your kids might be embarrassed of you. your parents would be really upsetting you and people learned that those attitudes were not going to be beneficial to their life. i think what we're concerned about now is that blanket and then we put over it, is being pulled back. that it's going to be really hard to put that back where it was, ah, is ending the conflict? can you brain on the agenda maybe trying think has offered proposal there to peers that you pay france and germany or something else. zalinski regime put a proposal on their own, all will come to nothing if russian interests are not respected.

so some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities and other countries for united states of america is different. wearable people long to be free. they will find a friend in the united states, ah, with o, a human being . so we have it out by the body. it evolves. anybody phasing? sincerely, city, if you draw, you look at the incentives of each cigarette. peel color revolutions is one among several means to reach the goal of conquering foreign lands and bringing them onto the help of u. s. western economic interests to pop in sadie. i didn't that he did to that grow valley. did them okay. yeah. doing returning clack. they saw no, we just say low,

their soft power america. and the final goal of these thing revolutions is to ensure that there are no independent players in the world anymore. ah, there was a state of emergency in florida. it's a white nationalist, was about to take stage in the free our day university of florida is breaking for potential violence today of a speech by white nationalist later richard spencer, who the fruit gestures gathering out. so i decided the only reason i say, but i would say that back to the all right, and read the notion that they really were that way to find a stage spencer trying to speak to the noise or the chip with

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with that stuff. so you know how to check with these guy. you guys gonna get killed that here? somebody got i got this guy coming to a people who say, oh love we hey, hey, hey, hey, love these same people with hate. when i post randy, you know, i came on, i don't want to talk to you, you know, understand you. he will cool. no problem the whole time. we couldn't really have a discussion because these camera, you know, you people question i get done with what was it was go find more really intimate said neil,

i don't know if i'm talking to you. it can be like really and i guess our intimate said was force known as we were both keep out. so we encountered some police officers. they were treating randy how they would treat me on a regular day. you know, just awful what they perceived by his, our parents and in the end of one arrest in. yeah, i right. this maze got beat on spin. are usually the sped on the back is it usually is mouth, but what is he doing wrong? why you actually sit on the ground do this type of stuff. so we actually started walking and talking and we found out we have things in common. you know, i some, his views about certain bay is certain i'm girl and both. yeah. he was telling me he got involved in his teenage years in the area nation, and i said a lot of my friends and different people get involved in the blow to cripps in different games they join. that's what's around you. so whatever around you and your friends may be involved, whatever happens you're, my state is going to be on that. so for me,

i just saw the similarities of what my culture would deal with just in a little different way. there's no, there's nothing new up on it. a son he has was just a different route. they angry white man angry back to different people. the angry black man is angry because he has no home has no vision, no way to provide a reweigh people, especially in a lower income cause they have so many mental enrollment that you can just turn on the tv and see success. i mean, now i would be deprived to it down at the bottom with black people when they got a reason to be you know, i'm white. what am i know? is it easy to see your own? and you know, when your doctor, the doctor, any better way to focus on it or that they don't nice people different color, i guess

a white man because he's angry cuz he doesn't really understand what america he doesn't even say i got the way out for the blessed wait until the 5th is back. i mean everybody. that's why it in america has benefited on. give me answer the call or suppose davis or miss. busy right now. giving me or help me. i got somebody to understand not just myself, but my culture as a whole and look it differently just because of my individual encounter every week and 3 times we lease that lease due to time phone calls, you know, our phone calls and we've ours me. i mean,

when you think about what you've done, just in the last month, the turn around the correction, the what you've abandoned and what you would opted it's most people can't even use 10 pounds. they want to lose much less make an entire mental, emotional lifestyle change to humanize, which allowing them to humanize your like that, that's not rocket science but yeah, it's, it's evading. the majority of the country right now, seriously, la could, i could never get anybody airing and brotherhood of the nation, or anybody who got lots of on look at them saying why? because i got free and that was part of his barrier narrative and changes his narrative. not that we agree with anything that comes out of the far right is that will don't ever forget that there are people inside of those people. but you know that there's a human being inside of this person, right. and we just choose not to forget that we don't really see x, not seeing a vitamin, you know, have

a lot of dialogue as we do. but i mean, i can consider him a friend. i was glad if i could have that effect on randy to open his eyes up to see that you know something different. a c, whatever may have been, you know, introduced to him or told to him was proven to be a lot of their day in madison. but, and i think we often think about this in terms of the ways in which they are failing us. they are bad men, they are floating away from us. they are deviant. and i think we, we need to ask the other question. also, we need to ask the question of how we are failing them. what kind of ways can we

keep them in the center? and part of my answer to that is we have to find ways to keep them validated as men . it's really amazing when people feel more whole quickly and how easily in the ideology of hey, falls way. and if you can reconnect them to the people that they thought they hated . it helps build that. i'm them. these are that they realize that they're actually a part of the solution rather than contributing to the problem. the 1st time i've ever felt accepted any shape or form from anybody is actually with life after have another p 5 med just recently. i feel as if those is degraded so i want everybody to know the human being here instead of like mission touches. but i have person to be able to have the different cultures and different people here. it is really good to be able to close this to be able to interact

because it teaches me that, you know, we're all in this together. this is a part of our solution and farmers are evolving into a powerful force and justice quality from love, peace, compassion. we are operating as human beings from one of 2 places. fear or let me get to choose which one that is still happened and in the days following boston happened, it was such a turn out and seemed that pouring support for countering that narrative of white supremacy. it really flooded me with hope. i am proud that i can be a voice against what i used to stand for myself.

i have something to bring among the bigger and better things while i'm still mindful of what i owe to society. but no one's better served by my guilt or shame at this point, including me me . ready i fired a r, christine, and a glock at this time said one suspects going about molly and you need to die. we're communicating with him and he's got an automatic weapon. he's running a welcome

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